Re: [Ugnet] {UAH} HOW MANY ACHOLIS and LANGIS ARE BiDDING M7s RULE or ARE M7's POODLE
Friends “Uganda is going to slide into anarchy ( Somalia, Libya) and there is no need for Buganda to strike deals with anyone.” -Frank Mujabi I made this statement my personal signature so that it gets through the heads of Ugandans that we are facing danger. When exactly did I make this my signature? Before UAH was created. On 11/8/2014 Frank Mujabi is posting breaking news. Uganda is going to slide into anarchy. And they still blame Museveni for leading them as sikeniz. Ge’ez !! EM On the 49th Parallel Thé Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika machafuko From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com [mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Frank Mujabi Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 12:35 AM To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com Cc: ug at Subject: Re: {UAH} HOW MANY ACHOLIS and LANGIS ARE BiDDING M7s RULE or ARE M7's POODLE Allan I somehow think that the only thing M7 will not manage to do is create a monarchy of some sort. His whole hold on power is because he bribes and intimidates at the same time. I do not see anyone near him capable of keeping power after him. Uganda is going to slide into anarchy ( Somalia, Libya) and there is no need for Buganda to strike deals with anyone. Whoever is more organised will control his territory. Sent from my iPhone On 8 Nov 2014, at 06:46, Allan barigye.ru...@gmail.com mailto:barigye.ru...@gmail.com wrote: In one short answer, YES! Otherwise monarchy of some kind is inevitable On Nov 7, 2014 10:42 PM, Bobby Musoke bobbymus...@gmail.com mailto:bobbymus...@gmail.com wrote: Afande Allan Barigye, You are asking me to shake hands with people who are not willing to acknowledge any of the crimes they have committed against Buganda from 1966 up to 1985. Museveni agira afuga. On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Allan barigye.ru...@gmail.com mailto:barigye.ru...@gmail.com wrote: Mukulu Bobby, The day a muganda greets an Acholi with one firm hand shake and says kopango, Museveni will gone like yesterday. Take this to bank. Its cashable! On Nov 7, 2014 8:11 PM, Bobby Musoke bobbymus...@gmail.com mailto:bobbymus...@gmail.com wrote: Mr Noc’la Gaumoy, Mr Frank Mujabi answered your question about prospects for the North. I see no need to join forces with people like you for now or the immediate future. You no longer have the gun that you used under Obote to keep Buganda in line. Go ahead and find a way to compel people like me to join you if you can. On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 10:15 AM, 'gaumoy nockrach-laduma' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com wrote: Bobby, I shall be honest with you: IT IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE FAILED TO DO WHAT IT TAKES TO ACHIEVE YOUR CONVICTIONS. If you did, you would not be crying. And you know why? Because there are a lot of promineces out there who do not believe in your vision. If they did, they would be supporting you. So, you resort to utopia. Now let me ask you another straight question: How many companies, industries or mere places of work in Gulu EMPLOYS MORE THAN 100 PEOPLE? WHAT EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES ARE THERE? WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE BAGANDA THAT WERE IN THE NRM? They used to be much more than the northerners combined. Please answer those question and see if you don't understand that our people have to join the forces regardless! Noc'l “WE FORM THE CULTURE THAT FORMS US”….noc’la gaumoy. Den torsdag, 6 november 2014 15:08 skrev Bobby Musoke bobbymus...@gmail.com mailto:bobbymus...@gmail.com : Mr Moses Ocen, I hope you are following this thread. Kikafuwe for Baganda to enter into any sort of alliance with Langis and Acholis to throw out M7. How many times do you expect Buganda to make the same strategic mistake? Buganda needs to go solo,those who think you have help to offer like my friend Isaac Balamu you can keep it. On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Frank Mujabi frank.mujab...@gmail.com mailto:frank.mujab...@gmail.com wrote: Mw Musoke Project Unitary Uganda is doomed, and Buganda will have to be in any conversation after M7, and it will not be represented by M7's stooges. The status quo can't continue, and there is no need to make yet more agreements with people who have no interest in what Buganda wants. The reward will be right, and Buganda will again pay the price. Ensi egula Milambo. Sent from my iPhone On 5 Nov 2014, at 17:29, Bobby Musoke bobbymus...@gmail.com mailto:bobbymus...@gmail.com wrote: Mr Isaac Balamu, I am always so amused
Re: [Ugnet] {UAH} HOW MANY ACHOLIS and LANGIS ARE BiDDING M7s RULE or ARE M7's POODLE
What is so strange is that I held all my hopes into a civil war after Museveni, you see to my head I kept on thinking that if we get the war and many people die, the few that will remain alive will see the value of Uganda and build it, but my God I take a very close look at Acholis as people that have suffered a great deal, they have died than anyone cares to illustrate, they have been camped, they have been sodomised and both men and women, Museveni came to power and he cut them off government services for almost 15 years, and Museveni did it very openly that he even cut off the television network and power from their region, so they were not among the civil society, if one can identify it as such. He closed the Karuma bridge every night and that means that every Acholi was cut off the entire world every night, and this has never been seen in our country. But when you look at the way they debate in this forum and the way they have behaved after going through all that, they have not understood the value of their region let alone the value of Uganda. When an Acholi today opens his mouth he threatens as if they are coming back from Tanzania in 1979. We will shoot you, we will kill you, we are on our way to decapitate you, and then they use all the worst language as true drunkards they so were in Tanzanian Uganda refugee camp. Today Uganda’s future should have been built by Acholis right in front of all of us as guiding the way forward because they have seen the dark side of society, yet they have decided to invest their lives into Museveni an already dead horse by not only supporting it but spying on the rest of us for it. And the next series will expand on that point. So how exactly will the civil war in Uganda force Ugandans to politically grow up? {Kale by’Mpuna mwatu} EM On the 49th Parallel Thé Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika machafuko From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com [mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ssalongo Ssennoga Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 5:50 AM To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: {UAH} HOW MANY ACHOLIS and LANGIS ARE BiDDING M7s RULE or ARE M7's POODLE Abbey Kibirige Ssemuwemba! Is this not proof enough that we can never be Ugandan at heart because we don't feel it at all? This thread has broken all the forum ruled with swearing, cursing threat of physical injury and bullets to the head but it stays because that's what is engrained into our DNAs! To overlook our kinship, amplify the differences and hate each other with a passion in foreign tongues! I am unapologetically Muganda, Proudly Afrikan but regrettably forced to call myself Ugandan! I am going to call on all of U to prove your Ugandanness legally, culturally and anthropologically ... Or even by whatever standard you may cook up but when I get back, I wish to see real Ugandans raise their hands and get ready to Kutambula as a Ugandan! Cite all the laws you can, give all the excuses you want but prove your Ugandanness! Villager With regards from ACE-AGE On Nov 8, 2014, at 13:31, Herrn Edward Mulindwa mulin...@look.ca mailto:mulin...@look.ca wrote: Friends “Uganda is going to slide into anarchy ( Somalia, Libya) and there is no need for Buganda to strike deals with anyone.” -Frank Mujabi I made this statement my personal signature so that it gets through the heads of Ugandans that we are facing danger. When exactly did I make this my signature? Before UAH was created. On 11/8/2014 Frank Mujabi is posting breaking news. Uganda is going to slide into anarchy. And they still blame Museveni for leading them as sikeniz. Ge’ez !! EM On the 49th Parallel Thé Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika machafuko From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com [mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Frank Mujabi Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 12:35 AM To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com Cc: ug at Subject: Re: {UAH} HOW MANY ACHOLIS and LANGIS ARE BiDDING M7s RULE or ARE M7's POODLE Allan I somehow think that the only thing M7 will not manage to do is create a monarchy of some sort. His whole hold on power is because he bribes and intimidates at the same time. I do not see anyone near him capable of keeping power after him.
[Ugnet] The bullying of Hungary – the country that dared to disobey the US and EU
http://rt.com/op-edge/203151-hungary-independent-politics-west/ The bullying of Hungary – the country that dared to disobey the US and EU /op-edge/authors/neil-clark/ Neil Clark is a journalist, writer and broadcaster. His award winning blog can be found at www.neilclark66.blogspot.com. Follow him on Twitter https://twitter.com/NeilClark66 Get short URL Published time: November 07, 2014 12:53 [image: Reuters / Karoly Arvai] Reuters / Karoly Arvai lt;/bodygt; 673405113 FacebookTwitterRedditStumbleUponGoogle+Tumblr Tags EU /tags/eu/, Economy /tags/economy/, Election /tags/election/, Energy /tags/energy/, Europe /tags/europe/, Finance /tags/finance/, Gas /tags/gas/, History /tags/history/, Human rights /tags/human-rights/, NATO /tags/nato/, Natural resources /tags/natural-resources/, Politics /tags/politics/, Russia /tags/russia/, Sanctions /tags/sanctions/, USA /tags/usa/, Ukraine /tags/ukraine/ 25 years ago, Hungary was being toasted in the West for opening its border with Austria to East Germans, in a move which led to the fall of the Berlin Wall. Now the Western elites are not happy with Budapest which they consider far too independent. The refusal of Prime Minister Viktor Orban and his ruling Fidesz party to join the new US and EU Cold War against Russia, which has seen the Hungarian parliament approving a law to build the South Stream gas pipeline without the approval of the European Union, in addition to the populist economic policies Fidesz has adopted against the largely foreign owned banks and energy companies, has been met with an angry response from Washington and Brussels. Hungarian officials have been banned from entering the US, while the European Commission has demanded that the Hungarians explain their decision to go ahead with South Stream. That’s on top of the European Commission launching legal action against the Hungarian government for its law restricting the rights of foreigners to buy agricultural land. The bullying of Hungary hasn’t made many headlines because it’s so-called *“democrats”* from the West who have been doing the bullying. Viktor Orban is not a communist, he is a nationally-minded conservative who was an anti-communist activist in the late 1980s, but the attacks on him and his government demonstrate that it doesn’t matter what label you go under - if you don’t do exactly what Uncle Sam and the Euro-elite tell you to do - your country will come under great pressure to conform. And all of course in the name of *“freedom”* and *“democracy.”* Fidesz has been upsetting some powerful people in the West ever since returning to power in 2010. The previous *“Socialist”*-led administration was hugely popular in the West because it did everything Washington and Brussels and the international banking set wanted. It imposed austerity on ordinary people, it privatized large sections of the economy, and it took out an unnecessary IMF loan. Ironically, the conservative-minded Fidesz party has proved to be much better socialists in power than the big-business and banker friendly *“Socialists”* they replaced. One of the first things that Fidesz and its coalition allies, the Christian Democratic People’s Party, (KDNP) did was to introduce an $855m bank tax - the highest such tax in Europe - a measure which had the financial elite foaming at the mouth. Orban clashed with the IMF too, with his government rejecting new loan terms in 2012, and paying off early a loan taken out by the previous government, to reduce interest payments. [image: Hungary's Prime Minister Viktor Orban (Reuters / Bernadett Szabo)] Hungary's Prime Minister Viktor Orban (Reuters / Bernadett Szabo) In 2013, Orban took on the foreign-owned energy giants with his government imposing cuts of over 20% on bills. Neoliberals expressed their outrage at such *“interventionist”*policies, but under Orban, the economy has improved. Although it’s true that many still look back nostalgically to the days of *“goulash communism”* in the 1970s and 80s when there were jobs for all and food on the table for everyone. Unemployment fell to 7.4 percent in the third-quarter of this year; it was around 11 percent when Fidesz took power, while real wages rose by 2.9 percent in the year up to July. The man his enemies called the *“Viktator,”* has shown that he will pursue whatever economic policies he believes are in his country’s national interest, regardless of the opinions of the western elite who want the Hungarian economy to be geared to their needs. His refusal to scrap his country’s bank tax is one example; the closer commercial links with Russia are another. Russia is Hungary’s third biggest trading partner and ties between the two countries have strengthened in the last couple of years, to the consternation of western Russophobes. In April, a deal was struck for Moscow to loan Hungary €10 billion to help upgrade its nuclear plant at Paks. Orban’s policy of improving trade and business links with Russia, while staying a
[Ugnet] Gorbachev, of the Illuminati comes out of the woodworks!!
*Folks,** Gorbachev of The **Illuminati, comes out of the wood-works !! * http://rt.com/news/203475-gorbachev-speech-berlin-wall/ [image: Former President of the Soviet Union Mikhail Gorbachev attends a symposium on security in Europe 25 years after the fall of the Wall in Berlin on November 8, 2014 (AFP Photo / Odd Andersen)] /news/203475-gorbachev-speech-berlin-wall/ Europe may become irrelevant due to short-sighted policies – Gorbachev /news/203475-gorbachev-speech-berlin-wall/ Western policies toward Russia championed by Washington have led to the current crisis, and if the confrontation continues, Europe will be weakened and become irrelevant, former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev warns. 936 /news/203475-gorbachev-speech-berlin-wall/#mc-container ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/ugandanet@kym.net/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] Marco Polo in reverse: China pledges $40bn for new Silk Road
*Marco Polo in reverse: China pledges $40bn for new Silk Road * http://rt.com/news/203515-china-silk-road-economy/ [image: Reuters / Stringer] /news/203515-china-silk-road-economy/ Marco Polo in reverse: China pledges $40bn for new Silk Road /news/203515-china-silk-road-economy/ Beijing says it will spend $40 billion to revive the historic Silk Road and connect China with Central Asia, the Middle East and Europe - but this time, China will be the global power flexing its economic muscles. 37 /news/203515-china-silk-road-economy/#mc-container ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/ugandanet@kym.net/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] THIS IS THE HYPOCRISY OF RWANDA DEMOCRACY WE KEEP ON RAISING UP
New home sought for Rwanda genocide acquitted November 09, 2014 Dar es Salaam: Tanzania on Saturday urged foreign governments to offer asylum to those acquitted of charges related to the 1994 genocide in Rwanda and those released after serving prison terms. The country hosts the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda (ICTR), but the court is scheduled to close at the end of the year. But one unresolved issue is the fate of eight people acquitted of charges and three others who have served their sentences, and who are now living as virtual prisoners in a safe house in Arusha. They are under constant guard and say they cannot return to Rwanda. I humbly appeal to representatives of governments here present to see how you can take this international responsibility by accepting to relocate the acquitted and released persons, said Tanzanian Vice-President Gharib Bilal. On different occasions, the ICTR has approached your governments to accept relocating those individuals but in vain, he added. ICTR registrar Bongani Majola said the uncertain fate of those acquitted and released was casting a shadow over the record of the court, which is due to close on Dec.31. One failure of the ICTR from which lessons can be learnt relates to its inability to help those acquitted... leave Tanzania and go away to live their normal lives, he said. It is evident that their situation presents a significant human rights challenge that cries out for the assistance of the international community, he added. Agence France-Presse Mieux encore, ils doivent être dedommagés pour avoir été emprisonnés injustement comme ça se passe dans la justice occidentale. EM On the 49th Parallel Thé Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika machafuko ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/ugandanet@kym.net/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---