Re: An unexpected sight...

2001-01-17 Thread Erland Sommarskog
Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is common enough. It is more common in Sweden than it is in Germany. I can't compare with Germany, but I wouldn't say that it's common. I could think of it as a gimmick, but I would be inclined to say that it is more common to use cyrillic letter

Re: An unexpected sight...

2001-01-17 Thread Otto Stolz
Michael Everson had written: It was more common in Germany, Sweden, and Estonia earlier this century than it is today. On 2001-01-17 at 09:22 h UCT, Erland Sommarskog wrote: You mean that were was a fad last year? I have to confess that I missed it. You mean, this very month? (Rather than

Re: conjucts beginning with independent vowel?

2001-01-17 Thread Michael Everson
Ar 13:50 -0800 2001-01-16, scrobh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In the better known Indic scripts, are there ever cases of conjuncts formed with independent vowels and a following consonant? Not in the better-known ones, except possibly in esoteric manuscripts. One finds weird stacking behaviour in Tibetan

Re: conjucts beginning with independent vowel?

2001-01-17 Thread Antoine Leca
Michael Everson wrote: Ar 13:50 -0800 2001-01-16, scrobh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Now, suppose a VC conjunct were to occur, as described above; "al", for example. Would it seem preferable to treat the vowel like a consonant, and encode as A + virama + L or to treat the consonant, and

UNICODE application on IBM Mainframe

2001-01-17 Thread tracey kelly
I am investigating using the Unicode standard to store and forward Chinese characters in a mainframe (IMS) environment. Basically we want to receive Chinese into the system, encode into UNICODE, send it to the mainframe and store on the IMSDB. At a later stage, then decode back into Chinese for

Re: UNICODE application on IBM Mainframe

2001-01-17 Thread Mark Davis
Unicode is always serialized in a UTF: UTF-8, UTF-16*, or UTF-32*. The definition of each of these is invariant across systems: in UTF-8 an 'a' is always stored as 0x61. There is a special UTF for use on EBCDIC systems. Check out the technical reports and FAQs on www.unicode.org. Mark -

Re: UNICODE application on IBM Mainframe

2001-01-17 Thread lisam
Within the IMS database, any form of data can be stored. Beware, however, that certain parameters, such as the transaction name, must always be in EBCDIC. While the database itself can handle Unicode in any format, you have to be careful about how you work with that data - the IMS Transaction

Re: conjucts beginning with independent vowel?

2001-01-17 Thread Peter_Constable
On 01/17/2001 06:05:15 AM Antoine Leca wrote: Of course, in regular Nagari, one ought to encode A + virama + La/0932 (+ virama if followed by a consonant or at end of the word in Sanskrit), as this is the way it is written. This is actually done? I got the impression from reading chapter 9 in

Re: conjucts beginning with independent vowel?

2001-01-17 Thread James E. Agenbroad
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 01/17/2001 05:13:25 AM Michael Everson wrote: A + Ldep No such thing as Ldep in our model, so you'd have to rely on A + virama + L. Well, if a script had such behaviour, one possibility could be to propose a combining CONSONANT

Re: A real bug in bidi

2001-01-17 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Mark Davis wrote: Doug Felt here confirmed that this is a bug in the implementation section. While it does not affect the conformance of the main algorithm, it would affect people trying to use that optimization strategy. (we here don't use that strategy, by the way).

RE: conjucts beginning with independent vowel?

2001-01-17 Thread AbdulMalik
In Bengali Vowel_A can form a conjunct with letter_Ya (Ya taking its zophola form.) It has been suggested that this should be encoded as Vowel_A ZWJ Ya I believe that the series V ZWJ C is much more logical than V Virama C as the semantics of virama are to suppress the vowel. Abdul

Re: conjucts beginning with independent vowel?

2001-01-17 Thread Peter_Constable
On 01/17/2001 02:52:41 PM John Hudson wrote: Are thes four consonants always joined in this way when following an independent vowel? Or is this behaviour exceptional and limited to borrowed words, etc.? My understanding is the latter. Thus, I don't think obligatory ligation would work. -

RE: conjucts beginning with independent vowel?

2001-01-17 Thread Peter_Constable
On 01/17/2001 03:10:22 PM "AbdulMalik" wrote: In Bengali Vowel_A can form a conjunct with letter_Ya (Ya taking its zophola form.) It has been suggested that this should be encoded as Vowel_A ZWJ Ya I believe that the series V ZWJ C is much more logical than V Virama C as the semantics of

Re: A real bug in bidi

2001-01-17 Thread Mark Davis
Yes, I have already proposed an agenda item for the next UTC, to get this fix into 3.1. Mark ___ Mark Davis, IBM GCoC, Cupertino (408) 777-5850 [fax: 5891], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmapaddr=10275+N.+De+Anzacsz=95014 Roozbeh Pournader [EMAIL

Teletext mappings

2001-01-17 Thread Rob Hardy
Hi everyone, I'm preparing some mappings of teletext character sets to Unicode. You can see my results so far at http://www.sneezes.freeserve.co.uk/teletext/tech/charenc/teletextcharencs.ht ml [hope that URL doesn't get split..] This is a LARGE page, btw (150k). In IE5+, hover over the

PDUTR #27: Unicode 3.1

2001-01-17 Thread Julie Doll Allen
Proposed Draft Unicode Technical Report #27: Unicode 3.1 is now available at http://www.unicode.org/unicode/reports/tr27/ Please take a look at it and report any problems you may find. It is approximately 60 pages long. Julie Allen Editor, Unicode, Inc.