Well, I cannot speak for PowerBuilder (my knowledge of it is very out of
date), but for both Netscape and MS SQL Server you may or may not be able to
support Indic scripts -- the deciding factor will be based on what version
of each product you are using.
Beyond that, I do not think that any one
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What's bad is that work seems to get done on fictional scripts while
there
are still millions of real people (some of whom even have access to
computers) who can't express texts of their natively-used languages with
Unicode because we don't have their scripts encoded.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] scripsit:
Shavian and Deseret are examples of
scripts that needn't have been encoded now, and aren't very widely used, and
aren't _NEEDED_ by anyone at all, but were encoded because a while back
someone just happened to have done the work, and the proposals have just
Mike Ayers wrote with the solution to the mathematical
puzzle.
Kudos, Mike!
Substituting digits rather than letters, shoulda known.
Is there a prize?
Best regards,
James Kass.
Rajesh Chandrakar wrote:
I am new user of this forum and I am exploring Unicode and it's
application part with bibliographic databases. Right now, I have
explored the use of Arial Unicode MS font with Netscape browser. Now my
problem is, our centre has developed the Library housekeeping
In a message dated 2001-07-05 21:02:05 Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A lot of the arguments against Klingon weren't specificially against
Klingon; they were more against any fictional scripts in Unicode. The
editorial response to comments from national groups, in the
Deseret was very real to those who used it.
I wish they said that to the lady who wrote "The Tale of Genji". She would have given
him a VERY ladylike (in my opinion) kick to the face. Hiragana is a conscript.
What is the criterion for "enough of a corpus to put it into Unicode"?
Is it true
From: John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Just so, which means that the energy spent on invented scripts is nowise
taken away from the energy that could be spent on obscure-but-real
scripts.
Would that it were otherwise.
No one is arguing the FACTUAL basis for the above, but it is quite
reasonable
$B$i$s$^(B $B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B
$B!!!_$"$+$M(B
$B!
Have you a better idea?
That is not low.
Low is when I scare myself. You do not want to see what I think.
Low is why I ought to be kept away from real, living women because of what I might do
after 700 or 800 millilitres of sake.
Low would be bad.
And there is lower. Let us not go there.
I
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Shavian and Deseret are examples of
scripts that needn't have been encoded now, and aren't very widely used,
and
aren't _NEEDED_ by anyone at all, but were encoded because a while back
someone just happened to have done the work, and the proposals have just
been
From: Michael (michka) Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Example: I do not think I would find fault in the character of an
organization or individual that would choose not to assist in the work to
encode Egyptian Hieroglyphics if they saw their script in the same
consideration list as something like
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I do feel that there is a difference between:
(a) scripts like Shavian and Deseret, which were invented in a completely
serious vein, in an attempt to provide an alternative and presumably
better
means of writing a real language, but didn't quite catch on; and
(b)
Rajesh ChandrakarWrote:
I am new user of this forum and I am exploring Unicode and it's
application part with bibliographic databases. Right now, I have
explored the use of Arial Unicode MS font with Netscape browser. Now my
problem is, our centre has developed the Library housekeeping
Doug Ewell wrote:
Both G.B. Shaw and the Mormons had genuine, if not universally shared,
reasons for wanting to abandon the Latin script for writing English in favor
of something better. Shaw thought English literacy could be improved with
a more regular writing system to take the
At 03:03 -0400 2001-07-06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Compare the motivations behind these scripts to that of scripts that appear
in fictional literature and popular culture. Although nobody denies the
greatness of J.R.R. Tolkein as an author and scholar, it is extremely
unlikely that he intended
Adarsh wrote:
With ArialUnicodeMS all the characters for indian languages are not given
and even rendering characters has become a problem.Actually i hope u know
that for devanagari the range is from 0901-096f but all the characters has
not been covered in this range and unicode people has
At 08:00 +0100 2001-07-06, David Starner wrote:
Could you find fault with some one who chose not to work with Cham because
it was in the same consideration list as the (dead) Egyptian
Hieroglyphics?
I don't believe the Vietnamese national body (which originally
sponsored Cham, providing me
At 03:50 +0100 2001-07-06, David Starner wrote:
A lot of the arguments against Klingon weren't specificially against
Klingon; they were more against any fictional scripts in Unicode.
But arguments don't hold water. Criteria for encoding scripts or
symbols are that (1) they are used by enough
At 07:15 +0100 2001-07-06, David Starner wrote:
What's bad is that work seems to get done on fictional scripts while there
Really? There's only one fictional script encoded, and one on the fast track
to encoding.
Deseret isn't fictional. And, to be precise, we don't fast track
encoding.
At 02:34 -0400 2001-07-06, John Cowan wrote:
The most common reason for not having enough information is that we
can't shlep enough experts to us, nor shlep enough of us to the
experts, to complete any encoding proposals... a matter of time and
funds.
Just so, which means that the energy
At 22:03 -0700 2001-07-05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That was in WG2, I guess... The most recent discussion material that UTC saw
is a document I wrote, which is solely about Klingon and reasons for
rejecting it.
WG2 never discussed Klingon, formally.
Fictional or invented scripts aren't in and
A man was getting a haircut prior to a trip to Rome.
He mentioned the trip to the barber who responded,
Rome? Why would anyone want to go there? It's crowded
and dirty and far away. You're crazy to go to Rome.
So, how are you getting there?
We're taking TWA, was the reply. We got a great
rate!
* Bob Hallissy
|
| Can you identify what Uniscribe (not TextOutW) doesn't do properly
| in this regard? There are some pretty sophisticated DTP apps that
| utilize Uniscribe...
The problem is not that Uniscribe can't do what I want, but rather the
interface between the layout engine of my
Andrew Cunningham wrote:
Hi Rajesh
it cann't be done
both Arial Unicode MS and Code2000 contain indic characters, but only those
defined in the Unicode standard, the discret characters.
If i remember correctly, the required conjuncts and ligatures for variious
langauges are not present
James Kass wrote:
Adarsh wrote:
With ArialUnicodeMS all the characters for indian languages are not given
and even rendering characters has become a problem.Actually i hope u know
that for devanagari the range is from 0901-096f but all the characters has
not been covered in this range
At 3:50 AM +0100 7/6/01, David Starner wrote:
A lot of the arguments against Klingon weren't specificially against
Klingon; they were more against any fictional scripts in Unicode.
True, but the criterion being applied by the UTC is whether or not
there are users of the script who wish to
In a message dated 2001-07-06 3:23:51 Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The folks at DIN were wrong about Deseret, in my opinion. It seems to
me that they did not know what Deseret was. Whether it had a long
life is irrelevant. That script is of cultural importance to a
Rajesh Chandrakar wrote:
Another problem has to do with searching/indexing. Search/index applications
are broken by non-Standard encodings.
but how far searching and indexing is possible for encoded standards?
Hopefully, someone on our list with better knowledge of search
engine
Can someone please help this person.
I own a Comp USA Home Series Computer, use Juno as a Web service
provider, and print with a Hewlett Packard OfficeJet Model 600. The
operating system that came with the computer is Microsoft Windows 98.
Through Juno's customer service I was able to get
Doug Ewell wrote:
Indeed, it appeared as the sole script on a beautiful $5 gold coin issued in
1860 by a private mint in Salt Lake City that was owned and operated by
Brigham Young. The coin is listed in the respected Guide Book of U.S.
Coins, along with earlier Mormon gold pieces that were
From: Michael Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The editorial response to comments from national groups, in the
public archive of ISO 10646 stuff that you linked to at the start
of this message, included a complaint about Deseret from the German
Standards body, in that it was inappropriate for being
At 09:53 -0700 2001-07-06, Michael \(michka\) Kaplan wrote:
It seems both of you missed the subtext here, and the reason that the
attempt to introduce fictional scripts might cause consternation (the
original point here)?
The German ballot comments about Deseret were dismissed on the basis that
MichKa wrote:
It seems both of you missed the subtext here, and the reason that the
attempt to introduce fictional scripts might cause consternation (the
original point here)?
The German ballot comments about Deseret were dismissed on the basis that it
was not, in fact, a fictional
From: Kenneth Whistler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've been lurking on this discussion, but have to chime in here.
I do appreciate it, for what its worth. The chime was very much in tune.
While fully recognizing the importance of Middle Earth to some people it is
difficult for me to get past the fact
MichKa responded:
While fully recognizing the importance of Middle Earth to some people it is
difficult for me to get past the fact that there Middle Earth has no
national representative to WG2? :-)
But this is, of course, nearly irrelevant. If you prowl through the
unencoded scripts listed
From: Kenneth Whistler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can just call me a consciencious objector to having anyone who
subscribes to Vinyar Tengwar considering themselves to be among the
Númenoreans (a.k.a. the Dúnedain), who alone of all the races of Men
knew
Elvish tongues. :-)
Aha! I see you
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Rajesh Chandrakar wrote:
James Kass wrote:
Adarsh wrote:
[snip]
Another problem has to do with searching/indexing. Search/index
applications
are broken by non-Standard encodings.
but how far searching and indexing is possible for encoded standards?
ON Thursday, July 05, 2001 5:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the printer prints Greek characters, but without the proper accents.
I am in a hurry, and I will not be back to read my mail and asnwer
any questions before Thursday.
Here are my 2 cents' worth:
For me, the following mix of hardware
[EMAIL PROTECTED] scripsit:
Although nobody denies the
greatness of J.R.R. Tolkien as an author and scholar, it is extremely
unlikely that he intended the beautiful and carefully designed Tengwar and
Cirth scripts to be used by real humans to write real languages for use in
everyday
Kenneth Whistler scripsit:
[much good sense snipped]
However, unlike Shavian, Tengwar has had a kind of organic success
of a sort, spreading in its aesthetic and literary realm, and
gaining a group of adherents.
It turns out that Shavian too has its group of adherents: see
previous
In a message dated 2001-07-06 17:25:33 Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Although nobody denies the
greatness of J.R.R. Tolkien as an author and scholar, it is extremely
unlikely that he intended the beautiful and carefully designed Tengwar and
Cirth scripts to be used by
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