Re: Unicode and end users

2002-02-19 Thread David Hopwood
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Lars Kristan wrote: John Cowan wrote: Frankly, your problem is insoluble, because you have set up self-contradictory requirements. Suppose you are dealing with a filesystem where some names are to be interpreted as Latin-1 and others as Latin-2. The

Re: Unicode and end users

2002-02-19 Thread David Hopwood
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Lars Kristan wrote: Doug Ewell wrote: fine (as are LF-CRLF, stripped BOM's, and maybe even some edge cases like converting between tabs and spaces). If there are any security or spoofing concerns, it's best to leave everything completely untouched.

Re: Unicode Search Engines

2002-02-19 Thread Asmus Freytag
At 09:52 PM 2/18/02 -0800, Doug Ewell wrote: So if some language turns out to need a with horn in the future, its readers will have to cross its fingers that rendering engines become capable of displaying U+0061 U+031B properly. Support for such arbitrary combination is apparently in the works

Re: Unicode and end users

2002-02-19 Thread John Cowan
David Hopwood scripsit: (I've just checked whether NTFS allows ill-formed UTF-16 filenames; it does, at least on NT4.0, but you could reasonably treat that as an error.) NTFS filenames are UCS-2, not UTF-16, so ill-formed has no meaning. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan

RE: Yoruba characters

2002-02-19 Thread Marco Cimarosti
Omotola A. Awofolu wrote: - I do not know how to use diacritics in either JAVA or XML, and for coding with Yoruba I need to be able to use diacritics for some of the characters To use Unicode combining diacritics, you simply put the required diacritic(s) AFTER the base letter. So, say that

Multiple postings problem

2002-02-19 Thread John Clews
Could I ask that discussion on language names be confined just to the lists _other_than_ [EMAIL PROTECTED], to avoid multiple postings? Examples are recent postings on names of various Sami (or Saami) languages. It is already widely discussed on [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL

Re: Unicode Search Engines

2002-02-19 Thread John H. Jenkins
On Monday, February 18, 2002, at 10:52 PM, Doug Ewell wrote: In the '90s, when UTC and WG2 were more open to encoding precomposed forms, this approach was not too problematic, since any legitimate diacriticized character in an alphabetic script probably had its own precomposed form. Today,

Re: Unicode and end users

2002-02-19 Thread David Hopwood
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- John Cowan wrote: David Hopwood scripsit: (I've just checked whether NTFS allows ill-formed UTF-16 filenames; it does, at least on NT4.0, but you could reasonably treat that as an error.) NTFS filenames are UCS-2, not UTF-16, so ill-formed has no

Re: Unicode Search Engines

2002-02-19 Thread Doug Ewell
Asmus Freytag [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if some language turns out to need a with horn in the future, its readers will have to cross its fingers that rendering engines become capable of displaying U+0061 U+031B properly. Support for such arbitrary combination is apparently in the works

RE: Unicode Search Engines

2002-02-19 Thread Marco Cimarosti
Doug Ewell wrote: [...] And judging from Marco's unrelated post about Yoruba q-tilde, in which I *did* see the tilde positioned correctly (more or less) over the q, I guess support is more advanced than I thought. Terrific. Probably you didn't mean this, however: I don't think that q with

Re: Unicode Search Engines

2002-02-19 Thread Doug Ewell
Marco Cimarosti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And judging from Marco's unrelated post about Yoruba q-tilde, in which I *did* see the tilde positioned correctly (more or less) over the q, I guess support is more advanced than I thought. Terrific. Probably you didn't mean this, however: I don't

Re: (SC2.614) Reduced price ISO standards!

2002-02-19 Thread Michael Everson
At 17:38 +0100 2002-02-19, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote: You might care to have a look at the following URL: http://www.iso.org/iso/en/commcentre/pressreleases/2002/Ref815.html where information on the ISO/IEC JTC 1 Marketing trial may be found. CHF 44.00 is EUR 29.74 is USD 25.89 I note with

FW: list of abbreviated character names

2002-02-19 Thread Magda Danish (Unicode)
Can someone on the list help me respond to this query. Thanks. Magda. -Original Message- From: Kevin Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2002-02-18 21:05:52 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: list of abbreviated character names Hello I work professionally with type and am constantly using

Re: FW: list of abbreviated character names

2002-02-19 Thread Eric Muller
I am desperately looking for a list which gives NOT the full character description given in the Names List (eg LATIN CAPITAL S WITH CARON) but the abbreviated name (eg Scaron) This extremely useful shorthand method of naming the glyphs is used in font-editing applications such as

Re: Unicode and end users - UTF-8B

2002-02-19 Thread Markus Scherer
Lars Kristan wrote: ... The same thing should work the other way around, store Windows filenames directly into a UTF-16 database and use UTF-8 = UTF-16 conversion for UNIX filenames. Hoping that some day most of the data will be UTF-8 makes this even more appealing. As for any data that is

Re: FW: list of abbreviated character names

2002-02-19 Thread John Hudson
What you are looking for is the mapping of Adobe PS glyph names to Unicode characters. This is contained in a document called the Adobe Glyph List, which can be found online along with Adobe's extended glyph naming rules at http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/type/unicodegn.html

FW: politonik greek

2002-02-19 Thread Magda Danish (Unicode)
-Original Message- From: george lingas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:10 AM To: Magda Danish (Unicode) Subject: RE: unicode_help Dear Magda Danish, Thank you very much for your help, but i still cant find the unicode standart for symbols such as oxia

RE: politonik greek

2002-02-19 Thread David J. Perry
George, Polytonic Greek is a complicated issue, mainly because of the distinction between combining diacritical marks (which most software today doesn't support well) and precomposed combinations of letters and marks. If you looked on the Unicode website under the Greek range you didn't find

Re: Unicode Search Engines

2002-02-19 Thread Andrew Cunningham
At 08:13 AM 2/19/02 -0800, Doug Ewell wrote: Asmus Freytag [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if some language turns out to need a with horn in the future, its readers will have to cross its fingers that rendering engines become capable of displaying U+0061 U+031B properly. Support for such

UTF-8@Hotmail

2002-02-19 Thread Daniel Yacob
Greetings, I just noticed that utf-8 encoding is finally working at hotmail. UTF-8 works in the subject as well as the body of a letter. Late last year I saw that UTF-8 would not display properly at hotmail, even when the letter body was HTML with the encoding set right. Anyone here know for

RE: Unicode and end users

2002-02-19 Thread Chris Pratley
Perhaps that was true of NT4. On WindowsXP NTFS uses UTF-16 - it handles Extension B filenames just fine. Chris Sent with OfficeXP on WindowsXP -Original Message- From: John Cowan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: February 19, 2002 5:04 AM To: David Hopwood Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Unicode and end users

2002-02-19 Thread Chris Pratley
Even better, use Word2002 and get all that, plus the ability to *edit* the file and then save it back in any encoding, controlling CRLF/LF/CR or whatever... Actually, this problem of remembering encoding is not specific to notepad - it happens for any text editor. The issue is that often the