Roozbeh Pournader wrote:
> I can't see why they can't use a different font. Are these things
> characters? I believe they are only glyph variants.
Most of them are. The Atlantean alphabet is a little different, though.
It was not intended to be just another cipher for English, but was
designed
David Possin wrote about chromatic font research.
Thank you for your interest.
You and some other readers might like to know that I published some Private
Use Area code point allocations which include some codes about these very
topics on 2 July 2002.
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~ngo/court
Ken Whistler wrote as follows.
>But if a "script", like the MIIB BurgerKing cipher mentioned today,
>or chess diagram notation, is missing from the Roadmap, there is probably
>a *good* reason for it not to be there, and people should think twice
>(and then again) before they start proposing it fo
David Possin asks why I do not start a Yahoo group about Private Use Area
use.
The answer is that I am concerned about the matter of intellectual property
rights and, because of the requirements over intellectual property rights
licensing in the conditions for starting a Yahoo group I have decide
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Doug Ewell wrote:
> Not at all. Ciphers are out-of-scope for ConScript by definition. But
> *somebody* might want to create a PUA encoding for them (e.g. so they
> can be intermixed with unenciphered Latin script, as the Disney-script
> sites do).
I can't see why they can't
I would like to once again suggest that we refocus this 'FAQ'
AWAY from a repetition of the "Principles and Procedures" document maintained
by WG2 and containing the explanation of what constitutes a valid *formal*
proposal.
AWAY from any attempt to cover *all* aspects that could make a proposa
At 15:17 -0600 2002-07-03, John H. Jenkins wrote:
>On Wednesday, July 3, 2002, at 02:23 PM, Murray Sargent wrote:
>
>>as something inappropriate. Question: how does one code up (presumably
>>with markup) a caret over a jk pair in a math expression? The dot on the
>>j should be missing for this cas
At 12:17 -0700 2002-07-03, Kenneth Whistler wrote:
>If a script is listed there in the Roadmap for the BMP or for Plane 1,
>then people can be assured that interested members of the encoding
>committees have *already* made a tentative determination that
>the script is suitable for encoding, altho
I would NOT like to see our committees' hands tied by taking this
list as more than guidelines. I understand that it is for an FAQ but
there should be text therein to emphasize that these are not binding.
At 19:10 + 2002-07-03, Timothy Partridge wrote:
>Why not just presentation glyphs in g
On Wednesday, July 3, 2002, at 02:23 PM, Murray Sargent wrote:
> as something inappropriate. Question: how does one code up (presumably
> with markup) a caret over a jk pair in a math expression? The dot on the
> j should be missing for this case, but how does one communicate that to
> a font if
Timothy Partridge included the restriction
- No archaic styles of existing characters. E.g. dotless j.
as something inappropriate. Question: how does one code up (presumably
with markup) a caret over a jk pair in a math expression? The dot on the
j should be missing for this case, but how does o
Marco Cimarosti recently said:
> - No presentation glyphs for shapes that can already be obtained using
> regular characters in conjunction with ZWJ or ZWNJ.
Why not just presentation glyphs in general? We seem to have queries about
Indian cojuncts fairly frequently.
Some more suggestions (some
Suzanne,
> Can people from the review committee give me some hard and fast rules for
> when something is thrown out?
As Michael Everson indicated, the answer to this is probably not.
However, perhaps the most important thing for serious script
proposers to do, to see if what they are concerned
On Wednesday, July 3, 2002, at 11:57 AM, Asmus Freytag wrote:
> Klingon (or any of the Latin ciphers/ movie scripts)
>
>
I'd say Klingon *and* one of the Latin ciphers. Klingon is almost worth a
FAQ in itself.
==
John H. Jenkins
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At 12:59 -0400 2002-07-03, Suzanne M. Topping wrote:
>Can people from the review committee give me some hard and fast rules for
>when something is thrown out?
I suspect we cannot.
--
Michael Everson *** Everson Typography *** http://www.evertype.com
This looks like a lot of work and it looks like it duplicates as lot of the
work in the "submitting new proposals" section of instructions on our
website and in the standard.
We are getting a large number of *informal* suggestions for proposals that
are more or less clearly inappropriate and s
Suzanne T asked:
> Can people from the review committee give me some hard and fast
> rules for when something is thrown out?
There's only one hard and fast rule that I know: when a majority of UTC
members vote to NOT encode something.
I think the criteria that UTC representatives use to deter
I realized that I should probably turn an off-list discussion back to
the list, as it's illustrating an area of difficulty. (See the bottom of
this note for a partial discussion of what writing systems could/would
be considered.)
In the "appropriate use" FAQ entry, how the heck can we state what
Michael Everson wrote:
>> It's a straight cipher for the Latin alphabet, so don't bother
>> suggesting it for ConScript. They have a policy against ciphers,
>> even historic ones like the Utopian "alphabet" originally printed
>> in 1516:
>
> Do you object to that? The example isn't even phoneti
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Michael Everson wrote:
> At 11:48 +0100 2002-07-03, Anthony Stone wrote:
> >I should be very glad if someone could solve the mystery of what
> >Sanskrit and/or Tibetan characters correspond to the following Unicode
> >characters:
> >
> >1883 MONGOLIAN LETTER ALI GALI UBADAMA
>
At 11:48 +0100 2002-07-03, Anthony Stone wrote:
>I should be very glad if someone could solve the mystery of what
>Sanskrit and/or Tibetan characters correspond to the following Unicode
>characters:
>
>1883 MONGOLIAN LETTER ALI GALI UBADAMA
>1884 MONGOLIAN LETTER ALI GALI INVERTED UBADAMA
I s
Michael Everson wrote:
> What is the name of the new Chinese encoding! Is it GB
> 2312-80 or some such?
Do you mean GB 18030?
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/drintl/015/default.asp
_ Marco
At 23:21 -0700 2002-07-02, Doug Ewell wrote:
>To promote the new "Men in Black II" movie, Burger King is handing out
>kids' toys with "secret messages" displayed in these glyphs:
>
>http://www.burgerking.com/mibdecoder/
>
>It's a straight cipher for the Latin alphabet, so don't bother
>suggesting
What is the name of the new Chinese encoding! Is it GB 2312-80 or some such?
--
Michael Everson *** Everson Typography *** http://www.evertype.com
What I meant to write before was "... CSS 2/@font-face ..." and not "... CSS
2/@font-family ...". Sorry about the typo.
Regards,
em2 Solutions
Michael Jansson
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Jansson
> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 10:43 AM
> To: 'Stefan Persson'; 'David Starner';
I should be very glad if someone could solve the mystery of what
Sanskrit and/or Tibetan characters correspond to the following Unicode
characters:
1883MONGOLIAN LETTER ALI GALI UBADAMA
1884MONGOLIAN LETTER ALI GALI INVERTED UBADAMA
Many thanks, Tony Stone
The irony of it, that Linux users are much better organized, font-wise, than
Windows users, thanks to Markus Kuhn's ISO 10646 X11 fonts which come with
the XFree86 v4.0 distribution. I have yet to find Ethiopic or Cherokee
anywhere on a default Win2000/XP install. So that Mozilla on Linux displ
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Jansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Stefan Persson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'David
Starner'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 10:34 AM
Subject: RE: Can browsers show text? I don't think so!
> Huhh...? You would selec
As I mentioned in my original posting, you need to use a "popular browser on
OS 9 or Windows). Although Opera 6 is popular and quite good at Unicode, it
does not support CSS 2/@font-family. Try Opera 5.12, Nav 4.x, Nav 6.x, IE5.x
or IE6.x instead.
Yet again, this is my whole point. Browsers do no
Huhh...? You would select the text and simply copy and paste it, given that
you are using a browser and an OS that does Unicode text. The problem is of
course that some browsers/OS's would not let you do that, which is my whole
point with this mail thread.
The page in question is a dynamic pag
Hi Murray,
Well, even CSS 1 supports fine grained positioning (e.g. margins, padding,
position and sizes in units like mm, etc.) I don't see a need for the format
to support better positioning than that. Tab support can and probably should
be supported at a higher level in a DTP tool and not nece
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