Re: pre-HTML5 and the BOM

2012-07-15 Thread Doug Ewell
Philippe Verdy wrote: It would break if the only place where to place a BOM is just the start of a file. But as I propose, we allow BOMs to occur anywhere to specify which encoding to use to decode what follows each one, even shell scripts would work (you could place the BOM on a comment line

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2012-07-15 Thread Jean-François Colson
I can’t access to unicode.org. Is there a problem with the website?

Re: Sinhala naming conventions

2012-07-15 Thread Naena Guru
Mahesh, Thank you. I like this line of discussion than the constant effort to condemn me for abstract crimes. I have not seen any standard whose conditions stand in the way of proper implementation of Singhala on the computer. There, my challenge stands 1. to show where I hurt Singhala by

Re: Charset declaration in HTML (was: Romanized Singhala - Think about it again)

2012-07-15 Thread Naena Guru
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Leif Halvard Silli xn--mlform-...@xn--mlform-iua.no wrote: Naena Guru, Tue, 10 Jul 2012 01:40:19 -0500: HTML5 assumes UTF-8 as the character set if you do not declare one explicitly. My current pages are in HTML 4. There is in principle no difference

Re: UTF-8 BOM (Re: Charset declaration in HTML)

2012-07-15 Thread Doug Ewell
Steven Atreju wrote: If Unicode *defines* that the so-called BOM is in fact a Unicode- indicating tag that MUST be present, But Unicode does not define that. I know that, in Germany, many, many small libraries become closed because there is not enough money available to keep up with the

Re: Sinhala naming conventions

2012-07-15 Thread David Starner
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Naena Guru naenag...@gmail.com wrote: There, my challenge stands 1. to show where I hurt Singhala by romanizing. 2. to show how romanized Singhala violates any standard in what specific way. 3. to show that romanized Singhala is inferior to Unicode Singhala in

Re: Website unavailable

2012-07-15 Thread Rick McGowan
To all concerned: Please accept our apologies for problems with the mail list, website etc. Our provider reports experiencing a large-scale distributed denial of service attack that has crippled their data center connectivity since yesterday (Saturday). We do not have an estimated time when

Re: Ewellic again (was: Re: Romanized Singhala - Think about it again)

2012-07-15 Thread Naena Guru
My error. Sorry, Doug. On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Doug Ewell d...@ewellic.org wrote: Unicode character database goes from zero to some very big number. There are no holes in it to define character sets for somebody's fancy. Well, Doug Ewell did one for Esparanto expanding fuþorc.

Re: Charset declaration in HTML (was: Romanized Singhala - Think about it again)

2012-07-15 Thread Naena Guru
Hey, Philippe, Your input is much appreciated. So, in a nutshell, I don't have to worry. One of these days I need to crunch down (minify) the CSS and JavaScript pages. I left them readily readable so that techs like you could easily read them in place in any browser without having to pretty

Re: pre-HTML5 and the BOM

2012-07-15 Thread David Starner
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Doug Ewell d...@ewellic.org wrote: We've been hearing the story about hashbang for many, many years now, and I still don't understand why the following logic hasn't been made part of the low-level I/O process in such environments: When reading a text file that

Re: BOM ambiguity?

2012-07-15 Thread Doug Ewell
Stephan Stiller wrote: With that in mind, there is value in documenting, however briefly, that reading FF FE 00 00 is by itself technically ambiguous. I have seen this documented many times, though I can't say for sure that it was in official Unicode literature. Even though you can never

Re: pre-HTML5 and the BOM

2012-07-15 Thread Doug Ewell
David Starner wrote: In the environment that UTF-8 was developed for, a BOM is a nuisance; a BOM will stop the shell from properly interpreting a hashbang, and other existing programs will lose the BOM, duplicate the BOM, and scatter BOMs throughout files. Given the number of text-like file

Re: BOM ambiguity?

2012-07-15 Thread Stephan Stiller
I have seen this documented many times, though I can't say for sure that it was in official Unicode literature. Excellent, so let's have someone state whether it's in the official Unicode literature. And independent of whether it is or not, I know that some mention of the content of this