Re: 0027, 02BC, 2019, or a new character?

2018-01-24 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 07:59:11 +0530 Shriramana Sharma via Unicode wrote: > IMO it's hardly clear that that is or in fact *what* is meant by a > standard keyboard. It meeely seems to me loose political speak to > make it appear as if they are trying to make things simpler for

Re: 0027, 02BC, 2019, or a new character?

2018-01-24 Thread Philippe Verdy via Unicode
Great but then why sticking on a pure western subset (ASCII is mostly for US only). If he wants to be eastern, so choose ISO 8859-2. As a bonus, banning the apostrophe from the alphabet will have be security improvement (thing about the many cases where ASCII apostrophes are used as string

Re: 0027, 02BC, 2019, or a new character?

2018-01-24 Thread Philippe Verdy via Unicode
I agree, and still you won't necessarily have to press a dead key to have these characters, if you map one key where the Cyrillic letter was producing directly the character with its accent. No surprise for user, fast to type, easy to learn, typographically correct, preserves the etymologies and

Re: 0027, 02BC, 2019, or a new character?

2018-01-24 Thread Mark E. Shoulson via Unicode
On 01/24/2018 09:29 PM, Shriramana Sharma via Unicode wrote: On 24-Jan-2018 00:25, "Doug Ewell via Unicode" > wrote: I think it's so cute that some of us think we can advise Nazarbayev on whether to use straight or curly apostrophes or

Re: 0027, 02BC, 2019, or a new character?

2018-01-24 Thread David Starner via Unicode
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 6:31 PM Shriramana Sharma via Unicode < unicode@unicode.org> wrote: > > On 23-Jan-2018 10:03, "James Kass via Unicode" > wrote: > > (bottle, east, skier, crucial, cherry) > s'i's'a, s'yg'ys, s'an'g'ys'y, s'es'u's'i, s'i'i'e > sxixsxa, sxygxys,

Re: 0027, 02BC, 2019, or a new character?

2018-01-24 Thread Shriramana Sharma via Unicode
On 24-Jan-2018 00:25, "Doug Ewell via Unicode" wrote: I think it's so cute that some of us think we can advise Nazarbayev on whether to use straight or curly apostrophes or accents or x's or whatever. Like he would listen to a bunch of Western technocrats. Sir why this

Re: 0027, 02BC, 2019, or a new character?

2018-01-24 Thread Shriramana Sharma via Unicode
On 23-Jan-2018 10:03, "James Kass via Unicode" wrote: (bottle, east, skier, crucial, cherry) s'i's'a, s'yg'ys, s'an'g'ys'y, s'es'u's'i, s'i'i'e sxixsxa, sxygxys, sxanxgxysxy, sxesxuxsxi, sxixixe s̈ïs̈a, s̈yg̈ys, s̈an̈g̈ys̈y, s̈es̈üs̈i, s̈ïïe śíśa, śyǵys,

Re: 0027, 02BC, 2019, or a new character?

2018-01-24 Thread Philippe Verdy via Unicode
So there will be a new administrative jargon in Kazakhstan that people won't like, and outside the government, they'll continue using their exiosting keyboards, and will only trnasliterate to Latin using a simple 1-t-to-1 mapping without the ugly apostrophes (most probably acute accents on vowels,

Re: 0027, 02BC, 2019, or a new character?

2018-01-24 Thread Doug Ewell via Unicode
James Kass wrote: > Heh. We are offering sound advice. If people fail to heed it, that's > too bad. We're offering excellent advice, very well informed. But the leadership has made the decision that it has made. All the news stories say that linguistic experts in Kazakhstan offered similar good

Re: Internationalization & Unicode Conference 2018

2018-01-24 Thread Markus Scherer via Unicode
If your presentation is accepted for the conference, you should get a hotel discount. markus

Internationalization & Unicode Conference 2018

2018-01-24 Thread Andre Schappo via Unicode
I am thinking that people at Internationalization & Unicode Conference 2018 may well be interested in my story and, at times difficult, journey. It has been a long journey. Title of my presentation would be "How I Internationalized my Computer Science Teaching". Would any organisation on this

Re: 0027, 02BC, 2019, or a new character?

2018-01-24 Thread philip chastney via Unicode
OK, he's no technocrat, but try googling "tony blair kazakhstan" and in case anybody's wondering what Nazarbayev got for his five million pounds, for a partial explanation, check out https://www.rt.com/uk/340035-blair-strike-kazakhstan-massacre/ it is not known if Blair profferred any