Lao Nukta

2019-05-14 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
I was looking though Maha Sena's textbook on Tai Tham for Pali, and I noticed that he had a Lao script Pali section that made use of a nukta that seems to me to be indistinguishable from U+0EBA LAO SIGN PALI VIRAMA. Is it therefore in order to use that character for this nukta, just as U

RE: [indic] Re: Top Nukta... and double nuktas ... and more nuktas

2003-08-14 Thread Mike Meir
-headline-height nukta as a separate Unicode code point. The document I posted previously, which I attach again for reference, lists printed documents in which various placements for (I hardly dare say) nuktas are used, including more than one use by more than one author, in both India and Bangladesh

RE: [indic] Re: Top Nukta... and double nuktas ... and more nuktas

2003-08-05 Thread Mike Meir
ated: > > > The Unicode position that nukta modifies the sound is therefore a > > simplification. But in any event, the nukta, however it is > > represented, indicates a distinction, usually a change of > sound, not > > what that distinction might be. > > It is

Re: NUKTA

2000-08-25 Thread Jaap Pranger
At 17:37 +0200 2000.08.24, James E. Agenbroad wrote: > Yes indeed. Mr. Leca points out that ISCII uses two halants to >mean an 'explicit halant'--one not to be replaced by a more complicated >conjunct. I guess I prefer the Unicode ZWJ. (You meant ZWNJ) I still don't know which ISC

Re: NUKTA

2000-08-25 Thread Antoine Leca
James E. Agenbroad wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Jaap Pranger wrote: > > > At 18:05 +0200 2000.08.23, James E. Agenbroad wrote: > > > > >Whether a vowel or vowel sign can have a nukta I do not know. > > > Don't think so. > > > In a

Re: NUKTA

2000-08-24 Thread James E. Agenbroad
On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Jaap Pranger wrote: > At 18:05 +0200 2000.08.23, James E. Agenbroad wrote: > > > >In a list of Devanagari conjuncts if compiled a while ago there are at > >least two cases of conjuncts in which both consonants have a nukta: > >1. Ka + nukta + hal

Re: NUKTA

2000-08-23 Thread Jaap Pranger
At 18:05 +0200 2000.08.23, James E. Agenbroad wrote: >In a list of Devanagari conjuncts if compiled a while ago there are at >least two cases of conjuncts in which both consonants have a nukta: >1. Ka + nukta + halant + ka + nukta = qqa >2. Ka + nukta + hanant + pha + nukta = qf

Re: NUKTA

2000-08-23 Thread Jaap Pranger
At 19:57 +0200 2000.08.23, Antoine Leca wrote: >As a sidepoint (not really relevant, but it may matter), ISCII-91 >does use the combination of vowel with nukta, in both standalone >and vowel sign form. > short ri + nukta gives long rii > short i + nukta gives short vocalic l

Re: NUKTA

2000-08-23 Thread Jaap Pranger
At 01:18 +0200 2000.08.23, Kenneth Whistler wrote: >I think the valid way to bracket this is: > >[{( Ka + Nukta ) + Virama} + {( Ta + Nukta ) + Virama} + Sa] Is Ta+Nukta a valid/existing character? [...] >The only real question here is what typographical practice in Devanaga

Re: NUKTA

2000-08-23 Thread Antoine Leca
James E. Agenbroad wrote: > > Whether a vowel or vowel sign can have a nukta I do not know. As a sidepoint (not really relevant, but it may matter), ISCII-91 does use the combination of vowel with nukta, in both standalone and vowel sign form. short ri + nukta gives long rii s

Re: NUKTA

2000-08-23 Thread James E. Agenbroad
cts if compiled a while ago there are at least two cases of conjuncts in which both consonants have a nukta: 1. Ka + nukta + halant + ka + nukta = qqa 2. Ka + nukta + hanant + pha + nukta = qfa I think: 1. Any consonant can have a nukta. But if a Unicode character includes a precomposed nukta, U

Re: NUKTA

2000-08-22 Thread Chookij Vanatham
Hi Ken, I do agree on all the explaination on how to apply Nukta and how to determine the syllable. Just only one little comment that I wouldn't substitue a ( Ka + Nukta ) for a ( ka ) in this sample,unless it does requires by the linguistic that it's correct to do so with the reas

Re: NUKTA

2000-08-22 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Chookij V. continued: > ] > > ] > Ex 3: Ka + Nukta + Virama + Ta + Nukta + Virama + Sa I think the valid way to bracket this is: [{( Ka + Nukta ) + Virama} + {( Ta + Nukta ) + Virama} + Sa] Where each () pair indicates the nuktated consonantal value of a CV (consonant + in

Re: NUKTA

2000-08-22 Thread Chookij Vanatham
Hi Ken, Thanks for the opinion. ] ] Consider a hypothetical syllable -qfa-. To represent that in ] Devanagari you would need: ] ] Ka + Nukta + Virama + Pha + Nukta ] ] i.e. 0958 + 094D + 095E ] ] Now, I don't know what happens during display of such a combination --

Re: NUKTA

2000-08-22 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Chookij V. asked: > Hi Hindi-experts again, > > Just want to know if usaully, only one nukta applied to only one consonant > in the consonant cluster, Right ? > and it can be one consonant of any consonants in the cluster, right ? > > Ex 1: Ka + Nukta + Virama + Ta --&

NUKTA

2000-08-22 Thread Chookij Vanatham
Hi Hindi-experts again, Just want to know if usaully, only one nukta applied to only one consonant in the consonant cluster, Right ? and it can be one consonant of any consonants in the cluster, right ? Ex 1:Ka + Nukta + Virama + Ta --> 1 syllable Ex 2:Ka + Nukta + Virama + Ta + Nu

RE: Half-form of Hindi-consonant which has Nukta

2000-08-18 Thread Apurva Joshi
Yes, the nukta form of a consonant in Devanagari can have a half form. Thus: Ka + Nukta + Virama -> Ka_half_with_Nukta The above resultant is half form of 'Ka + Nukta'. Thanks, -apurva -Original Message- From: Chookij Vanatham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, Augu

Re: Half-form of Hindi-consonant which has Nukta

2000-08-18 Thread Abdul Malik
Chookij Vanatham wrote: > Hi any hindi experts, I don’t claim to be a 'Hindi' expert, but I do know about the Devanagari script > I have a question about hindi. > Does hindi have the half-form of the case where hindi consonant has the nukta ? > > Ex: inp: Ka + Nukt

Half-form of Hindi-consonant which has Nukta

2000-08-18 Thread Chookij Vanatham
Hi any hindi experts, I have a question about hindi. Does hindi have the half-form of the case where hindi consonant has the nukta ? Ex: inp: Ka + Nukta + Virama + Ma Would that be the half form of "Ka + Nukta + Virama" ? Chookij V.