RE: Unicode market acceptance

2001-03-20 Thread Chris Pratley
1 support for "surrogates", display, editing, etc. What's not to like? :) Chris Pratley Group Program Manager Microsoft Word -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 5:43 AM To: Unicode List Subject: RE: Unicode marke

RE: Unicode market acceptance

2001-03-19 Thread Peter_Constable
On 03/19/2001 03:45:51 AM Edward Cherlin wrote: >Decent Unicode 3.1 support for considerably more scripts should be >available in 2002. The ones with shaping issues are Mongolian, >Syriac, Myanmar, Sinhala, Khmer, and to a lesser extent Ethiopic. Ethiopic? What complex shaping issues are there

RE: Unicode market acceptance

2001-03-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
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RE: Unicode market acceptance

2001-03-13 Thread Hart, Edwin F.
Laurel, MD 20723-6099 USA +1-443-778-6926 (Baltimore area) +1-240-228-6926 (Washington, DC area) +1-443-778-1093 (fax) +1-240-228-1093 (fax) -Original Message- From: Suzanne M. Topping [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 13:36 To: Unicode List Subject: RE: Unicode market

RE: Unicode market acceptance

2001-03-13 Thread Suzanne M. Topping
> -Original Message- > From: Tex Texin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > We have estimates for (human) language usages on the web, its too > bad there isn't an estimate for when Unicode will dominate. You would think that you could project out some rough timeline for when Unicode crosses ov

Re: Unicode market acceptance

2001-03-12 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 11:32 AM Subject: RE: Unicode market acceptance > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Richard Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Recently looking at and talking about this > > > > http://i18n.homepage.com/UnicodeBe

RE: Unicode market acceptance

2001-03-12 Thread Suzanne M. Topping
> -Original Message- > From: Richard Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Recently looking at and talking about this > > http://i18n.homepage.com/UnicodeBenefits.html > > with some people, initiated and uninitiated, I quickly wrote this: > > http://linguistics.berkeley.edu/~rscook/Uni

Re: Unicode market acceptance

2001-03-11 Thread Tex Texin
Richard, I moved my web site to: http://www.geocities.com/i18nguy/index.html and the Unicode benefits page to: http://www.geocities.com/i18nguy/UnicodeBenefits.html The benefits page now includes a link to your page. tex Richard Cook wrote: > Recently looking at and talking about this > with

RE: Unicode market acceptance

2001-03-09 Thread Peter_Constable
On 03/09/2001 12:30:52 PM "Richard, Francois M" wrote: >I sure would like to look at a comparison of these costs. Are they available >anywhere? In Multilingual Computing #36, there was a book review of the book "Translating Into Success: Cutting-Edge Strategies for Going Multilingual in a Globa

Re: Unicode market acceptance

2001-03-09 Thread Tex Texin
Richard, Looks excellent! I'll use some of those ideas and Michka's cost comments. By the way, homepage.com told me they are quitting the hosting business so my pages will need to move again. I'll let you know where it goes. Richard, you are welcome to host a copy at your site. I'll make a note t

Re: Unicode market acceptance

2001-03-09 Thread Richard Cook
Tex Texin wrote: > > not the same as work for execs. The success of Unicode is obvious > to us (techies) is not clear to them. Tex, Recently looking at and talking about this http://i18n.homepage.com/UnicodeBenefits.html with some people, initiated and uninitiated, I quickly wrote this: http

Re: Unicode market acceptance

2001-03-09 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
ware, Inc. http://www.trigeminal.com/ - Original Message - From: "Richard, Francois M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Unicode List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 10:30 AM Subject: RE: Unicode market acceptance > > > > -Original Me

RE: Unicode market acceptance

2001-03-09 Thread Richard, Francois M
> -Original Message- > From: Michael (michka) Kaplan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 12:26 PM > To: Unicode List > Subject: Re: Unicode market acceptance > > > One of the most compelling arguments for those managers is > the

Re: languages on Web (was Re: Unicode market acceptance)

2001-03-09 Thread Tex Texin
Try: http://www.glreach.com/globstats/index.php3 I am sure the coverage is not the extent you want Peter. Also from time to time I see forecasts of when some language will be the primary language of x% of internet users, or when x% of web pages will be in some language. Would be interesting to

Re: languages on Web (was Re: Unicode market acceptance)

2001-03-09 Thread James E. Agenbroad
On Fri, 9 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On 03/09/2001 11:01:53 AM "Tex Texin" wrote: > > >We have estimates for (human) language usages on the web > > Do you mean the number of different languages used on the web? I'd be > curious to know what such estimates are. > > > > - Peter >

languages on Web (was Re: Unicode market acceptance)

2001-03-09 Thread Peter_Constable
On 03/09/2001 11:01:53 AM "Tex Texin" wrote: >We have estimates for (human) language usages on the web Do you mean the number of different languages used on the web? I'd be curious to know what such estimates are. - Peter

Re: Unicode market acceptance

2001-03-09 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
"Tex Texin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Unicode List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Unicode List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 9:01 AM Subject: Re: Unicode market acceptance > Guys, > I know the list of who's who using Unicode

Re: Unicode market acceptance

2001-03-09 Thread Tex Texin
Guys, I know the list of who's who using Unicode. Me too is not a compelling business argument. None of these put Unicode as the sole character set to use, so its simply another way to go. (OK, I know Java and XML please don't push back on these. Fundamentally, although they use Unicode I can als

RE: Unicode market acceptance

2001-03-09 Thread Marco Cimarosti
Pierpaolo BERNARDI wrote: > "It's what Microsoft uses" should work, methinks. Tex Texin wrote: > Not really. For one, many companies use platforms other than Windows. Then add "And it's also used in *Java*, *HTML*, *SQL Server*, and *Oracle*. Oh, by the way, and *IBM* has a *free* library to sup

Re: Unicode market acceptance

2001-03-08 Thread Tex Texin
Not really. For one, many companies use platforms other than Windows. tex Pierpaolo BERNARDI wrote: > > On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Tex Texin wrote: > > > When I talk to business people about market acceptance as a function > > of Java, XML, other standards and products such as database and > > office

Re: Unicode market acceptance

2001-03-08 Thread Pierpaolo BERNARDI
On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Tex Texin wrote: > When I talk to business people about market acceptance as a function > of Java, XML, other standards and products such as database and > office tools support it today, its still not as compelling as > a statement that by this date, if you aren't supporting