At 20:33 -0800 2002-02-16, Asmus Freytag wrote:
Whether or not they would get support to be encoded is almost
irrelevant as long as no-one comes forward and makes a formal
proposal with solid background information. Only then can this issue
be settled where it matters: in the UTC.
And WG2.
Curtis Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 08:30 PM 2/14/02, David Starner wrote:
One out of two ain't bad, I guess. That was garbage on the screens of
some of the subscribers, though - UTF-8 display is still not
universal.
You have a UTF-8 sig block, right, David? :-)
With my recent change
On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 04:23:20PM -0800, Doug Ewell wrote:
Curtis Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 08:30 PM 2/14/02, David Starner wrote:
One out of two ain't bad, I guess. That was garbage on the screens of
some of the subscribers, though - UTF-8 display is still not
universal.
Patrick Andries wrote:
I wonder sometimes if the largest obstacle in the encoding
of smileys as characters is not the universal normalization
process itself. Had they been invented a few decades ago and
encoded locally in some kind of popular font/encoding (the
Netscape font for
Falkor wrote:
I was thinking more that this would allow modern software to translate
a
lower-ASCII three-character sequence into a single unicode emoticon
character that would be displayed properly regardless of OS and
software,
also alleviating the need for such developers to create
Christopher J Fynn wrote:
Patrick,
There are whole scripts for contemporary languages which
are as yet unencoded in the Unicode Standard and some
punctuation and other chararacters missing from already
encoded scripts. IMO attention needs to be paid to making
sure all these characters
Whether or not they would get support to be encoded is almost irrelevant as
long as no-one comes forward and makes a formal proposal with solid
background information. Only then can this issue be settled where it
matters: in the UTC.
Discussions on open lists like this, unless accompanied by
Harry Davis a.k.a. Falkor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are two face characters in the Miscellaneous group.
Actually, three: U+2639, U+263A, and U+263B. (Not to mention U+3020.)
Was wondering if
it would be appropriate to expand upon those two, possibly in its own
block,
and add a series
On 2/15/02 3:05 AM, Doug Ewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Harry Davis a.k.a. Falkor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are two face characters in the Miscellaneous group.
Actually, three: U+2639, U+263A, and U+263B. (Not to mention U+3020.)
Yes, I saw those three... Smile, Frown, Black Smile.
On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 02:10:26AM -0500, Patrick Andries wrote:
For a proposal, you'd need examples of the character being used in
print, as a character and not a graphic. Do you have any examples?
On tourne en rond, as we say in French. What is a character and not a
graphic for you ?
On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 08:35:17AM -0500, Falkor wrote:
Sounds like we have a potential Bytext user:
http://www.bytext.org/The_Bytext_Standard.pdf (pages 31-33)
I was unaware of that. But even at that (after I looked at it) it has some
things that even I, having brought up this
This mailing list seems to be the first place for this, so...
There are two face characters in the Miscellaneous group. Was wondering if
it would be appropriate to expand upon those two, possibly in its own block,
and add a series of smiles/faces/emoticons to the unicode standard.
Like 'em or
Falkor wrote:
Like 'em or hate 'em, those :) are here to stay. ...and there's at
Probably, although the more people from outside the computer-tech world join in, the
smaller percentage of people will use these, like my mother-in-law...
They are already encoded in Unicode, using two or
Markus Scherer wrote:
Falkor wrote:
Like 'em or hate 'em, those :) are here to stay. ...and there's at
Probably, although the more people from outside the computer-tech
world join in, the smaller percentage of people will use these, like
my mother-in-law...
They are already
Patrick Andries wrote:
There are a couple of real smileys too, but some modern emailers
actually recognize the regular form
and display an image.
for what of a character.
I meant for want of a character.
P. Andries
On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 08:56:25PM -0500, Patrick Andries wrote:
They are already encoded in Unicode, using two or more Unicode
characters... using a colon and a closing parenthesis (I personally
prefer the version with a dash nose) is all you need.
Methinks «We know what you need» is a
On 2/14/02 8:34 PM, Markus Scherer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They are already encoded in Unicode, using two or more Unicode characters...
using a colon and a closing parenthesis (I personally prefer the version with
a dash nose) is all you need.
The same could be said about dingbat arrows...
On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 10:28:19PM -0500, Falkor wrote:
Miscellaneous Symbols aren't exactly textual. ...and if you can show me a
document written with the Box Drawing block, I'd be impressed. :)
I don't have an example at hand, but if you dig up an old DOS shareware
disk and poke through
On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 10:55:04PM -0500, Patrick Andries wrote:
The regular way; the most common way; the way people actually use.
Well, because there is no other way with a keyboard. But what do people
do with a pencil ? What is the way people actually draw smileys then ?
Tilted 90° ?
David Starner wrote:
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People add these things to written text? I've never seen it, and itdoesn't sound like you have, either.>
I wonder how you know this. I do write smileys on piece of papers.
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Unless Unicode
On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 11:48:04PM -0500, Patrick Andries wrote:
People add these things to written text? I've never seen it, and it
doesn't sound like you have, either.
I wonder how you know this. I do write smileys on piece of papers.
I inferred that from your question about how people
David Starner wrote:
For a proposal, you'd need examples of the character being used in
print, as a character and not a graphic. Do you have any examples?
On tourne en rond, as we say in French. What is a character and not a
graphic for you ? Some « thing » that is already encoded as a
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