Re: Terms "constructed script", "invented script" (was: FW: Re: Shavian)

2001-07-11 Thread Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
7 Jul 2001 11:01:18 GMT, Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> pisze: > I put a sample at Now I put a prettier version there: with variable line width, serifs, and by a slightly improved sizing engine (enlargement of rounded parts to make them look t

RE: Terms "constructed script", "invented script" (was: FW: Re: Shavian)

2001-07-09 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Mike Ayers asked: > > From: Edward Cherlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > The 'tsu' sign in reduced form is traditionally used in Japanese for > > consonant doubling (chyotto is written chi yo tsu to), but > > has been adapted > > for glottal stops at the end of words. > > Odd. I'v

RE: Terms "constructed script", "invented script" (was: FW: Re: Shavian)

2001-07-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Odd. I've always considered Japanese "double consonants" to be > glottal stops. Could anyone please explain the difference? They are glottal stops. But Japanese writing doesn't have a (standard) means of expressing a glottally stopped vowel pair. It only can express consonants. On

RE: Terms "constructed script", "invented script" (was: FW: Re: Shavian)

2001-07-09 Thread Ayers, Mike
> From: Edward Cherlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > The 'tsu' sign in reduced form is traditionally used in Japanese for > consonant doubling (chyotto is written chi yo tsu to), but > has been adapted > for glottal stops at the end of words. Odd. I've always considered Japanese "do

Re: Terms "constructed script","invented script" (was: FW: Re: Shavian)

2001-07-07 Thread Edward Cherlin
At 12:20 PM 2001-07-07, Michael Everson wrote: >At 11:16 -0700 2001-07-07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>Kana should be quite adequate for some other languages... Hawaiian? Oh, >>hmmm, well, except for that darned L/R distinction which kana doesn't have... > >Neither does Hawai'ian. So then all

Re: Terms "constructed script", "invented script" (was: FW: Re: Shavian)

2001-07-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Hiragana (and katakana) assume certain things about the syllabic structure, >specifically that syllables are of the form [C] V [C], where the trailing >consonant (if any) must be "n". Yes, but, kana _has_ been used even natively in comics and so forth, to end words with other consonants (i.e.,

Re: Terms "constructed script", "invented script" (was: FW: Re: Shavian)

2001-07-07 Thread DougEwell2
In a message dated 2001-07-07 9:30:56 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Cherokee is another syllabary that is very language-specific. And Etruscan > was pretty much forced into an alphabet--with its long consonant clusters, > a syllabary would have been unwieldy. Another e

Re: Terms "constructed script", "invented script" (was: FW: Re: Shavian)

2001-07-07 Thread Curtis Clark
At 10:54 PM 7/6/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I wonder: why aren't languages with simple syllabic structures written in > > hiragana? It seems to be built for them. > >Hiragana (and katakana) assume certain things about the syllabic structure, >specifically that syllables are of the form [C] V

Re: Terms "constructed script", "invented script" (was: FW: Re: Shavian)

2001-07-07 Thread Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
In a message dated 2001-07-06 0:31:39 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I wonder: why aren't languages with simple syllabic structures > written in hiragana? It seems to be built for them. I am using my own script inspired by hiragana 10 years ago for writing Polish. It looks

Re: Terms "constructed script", "invented script" (was: FW: Re: Shavian)

2001-07-06 Thread DougEwell2
In a message dated 2001-07-06 0:31:39 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I wonder: why aren't languages with simple syllabic structures written in > hiragana? It seems to be built for them. Hiragana (and katakana) assume certain things about the syllabic structure, specifical

Terms "constructed script", "invented script" (was: FW: Re: Shavian)

2001-07-06 Thread
$B$i$s$^(B $B!z$8$e$&$$$C$A$c$s!z(B $B!!!_$"$+$M(B $B!Fictional or invented scripts Even a "fictional" script is real in a certain sense. Some people could write letters in Tengwar. But those same people could also use Latin (or whatever other) characters to write that le