Re: What about musical notation?

2001-02-28 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> One application at present would be so that fine quality type set > illustrations of music and mathematics could be produced by placing > that sequence of codes in the param statement of a java applet in a > web page. You may have a look at Lilypond, which is a free musical typesetting engine

Re: What about musical notation?

2001-02-28 Thread Florian Weimer
Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I suggest, therefore, that writing a downloadable TeX DVI renderer > plug-in for a Web browser is a more general long-term solution for > your application. Most of the code you would need is available as open > source in C. It would not surprise me if

Re: What about musical notation?

2001-02-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
At 3:52 AM -0800 2/22/01, William Overington wrote: >Having been advised recently about accessing 21 bit unicode characters using >an example from musical notation, following up on that advice I have found >the document that details characters in the range U+1d100 to U+1d1ff, >entitled Musical Sym

RE: What about musical notation?

2001-02-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
oofs. > >Don >// > >-Original Message- >From: William Overington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 3:53 AM >To: Unicode List >Subject: Re: What about musical notation? > > >- >- >Does anyone know of any details o

Re: What about musical notation?

2001-02-22 Thread Curtis Clark
At 04:44 AM 2/22/01, Lukas Pietsch wrote: >As far as I know, music printing with mobile letters of this kind was >indeed done, mostly back in the 16th/17th century. There were "letters" >which each represented one fragment of a stave with one or several >noteheads on them. It tended to look pretty

Math formulae (was Re: What about musical notation?)

2001-02-22 Thread Kenneth Whistler
William Overington asked: > While on the subject of specialist settings, could someone say how one > expresses a mathematical formula using unicode please, or is it, as it > appears music is at present, beyond the scope of what unicode can presently > achieve? This will soon be the topic of a Un

Re: What about musical notation?

2001-02-22 Thread DougEwell2
In a (private) message dated 2001-02-22 08:47:26 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Wagner score (or folk tune) is a matter of three-dimensional > > layout, which is outside the scope of Unicode. > > You probably meant *bi*-dimensional layout, right? Of course I did. Duh

RE: What about musical notation?

2001-02-22 Thread Figge, Donald
Message- From: William Overington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 3:53 AM To: Unicode List Subject: Re: What about musical notation? - - Does anyone know of any details of metal music type please? William Overington 22 February 2001

Re: What about musical notation?

2001-02-22 Thread Michael Everson
At 07:58 -0800 2001-02-22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Unicode only provides the symbols -- the building blocks -- needed to set >music. The process of taking these building blocks and creating a full >Wagner score (or folk tune) is a matter of three-dimensional layout, which is >outside the scope

Re: What about musical notation?

2001-02-22 Thread DougEwell2
In a message dated 2001-02-22 04:30:20 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > So, I am left wondering as to how unicode will be used to set music. Unicode only provides the symbols -- the building blocks -- needed to set music. The process of taking these building blocks and creat

Re: What about musical notation?

2001-02-22 Thread John Hudson
At 03:52 AM 2/22/2001 -0800, William Overington wrote: >Am I right in thinking that in the days when hand set metal type on printing >presses was the only method of printing that there were fonts of musical >type? I have never seen any font of such type myself, though I have seen >fonts for such

Re: What about musical notation?

2001-02-22 Thread Lukas Pietsch
> > Am I right in thinking that in the days when hand set metal type on printing > presses was the only method of printing that there were fonts of musical > type? I have never seen any font of such type myself, though I have seen > fonts for such non-text matters as chess sets and crossword puz

Re: What about musical notation?

2001-02-22 Thread William Overington
Having been advised recently about accessing 21 bit unicode characters using an example from musical notation, following up on that advice I have found the document that details characters in the range U+1d100 to U+1d1ff, entitled Musical Symbols. I began wondering about how one would use unicode

Re: What about musical notation?

2001-02-07 Thread jgo
> ... > *** > * ENGLISH VERSION * > *** > I read the code approved (but not released yet), but exists a deficiency > (from my point of view) and giving to Perry Roland all my admiration for > the excellent work: > -Talking strictly about the notes; the convention ap

Re: What about musical notation ?

2001-01-24 Thread Otto Stolz
Am 2001-01-24 um 7:37 h UCT hat David Starner geschrieben: > Unicode is not a rich text format, nor a format for storing music. The > symbols being encoded are for discussion in text, not for music storage. And as primitives for a (forthcoming?) format to store music scores: "higher-level protoco

Re: What about musical notation ?

2001-01-24 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 08:20:21PM -0800, Erik Garr?s wrote: > Why the improvement?: To be able to store music (not symbols) in a condensed > format into electronic media, so the players will "talk" what is written in > "muscial language" (like some software do speaking phrases in some > langua

Re: What about musical notation ?

2001-01-23 Thread Erik Garrés
Text on spanish and english Texto en español e inglés ** * VERSIÓN EN ESPAÑOL * ** Leí el código aprovado (pero aún no liberado), pero existe una deficiencia (a mi parecer) y sin menospreciar el excelente trabajo de Perry Roland: -Hablando específicamente

Re: What about musical notation ?

2001-01-23 Thread Peter_Constable
>I think Mr. Garres means the western musical notation invented in the 1200s, >which is very widely, if not universally, used today. As has been mentioned, Western Musical Symbols have been approved for Unicode 3.1 (= ISO/IEC 10646-2), to be published later this year. Details can be found in pro

Re: What about musical notation ?

2001-01-23 Thread Elaine Keown
Hello, I think Mr. Garres means the western musical notation invented in the 1200s, which is very widely, if not universally, used today. Unicode 3.0 actually already has at least 2 older forms of musical notation in the main Hebrew block and somewhere in the Arabic block---they are signs for

Re: What about musical notation ?

2001-01-22 Thread Daniel Biddle
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Erik Garrés wrote: > First of all, excuse my English. > I would like to know, why the symbols used for music are not listed on > UNICODE ? Because music is the world-wide manner of communication and > expression. > > Does anybody agree ? I would like to know what you think

What about musical notation ?

2001-01-22 Thread Erik Garrés
First of all, excuse my English. I would like to know, why the symbols used for music are not listed on UNICODE ? Because music is the world-wide manner of communication and expression. Does anybody agree ? I would like to know what you think ! Erik