Re: A sketch with the best-known Swiss tongue twister

2018-03-10 Thread philip chastney via Unicode
it is not clear whether you are quoting from some agreed standard, quoting from some other authority, or constructing a classification of your own whatever the classification, it should be descriptive, and it is best not to be too pedantic, because practice can vary from region to region, from i

Re: A sketch with the best-known Swiss tongue twister

2018-03-10 Thread Philippe Verdy via Unicode
2018-03-10 12:26 GMT+01:00 philip chastney : > > -- when I lived that way, the French-speaking population of Nancy referred > to the language of their German-speaking compatriots as "platt deutsch" > (the way they used the term, it did not extend any further east than Alsace) > Note that this is

Re: A sketch with the best-known Swiss tongue twister

2018-03-10 Thread Philippe Verdy via Unicode
2018-03-10 19:02 GMT+01:00 Arthur Reutenauer < arthur.reutena...@normalesup.org>: > Philippe, > > So many approximations and misinterpretations ... > > > Note that this is what you heard in Lorraine, and there's some > competition > > between Lorraine and Alsace. If you lived in Alsace

Re: A sketch with the best-known Swiss tongue twister

2018-03-10 Thread Philippe Verdy via Unicode
Apparently you just trust Wikipedia that uses old sources. Very poopulated area does not mean it is populated by native speakers. There were lots of migrants that never spoke anything than just standard French or French slightly "creolized" with foreign languages (but these adapations are also dis