Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Bluetooth Speaker on PiCorePlayer

2016-10-14 Thread JackOfAll

Max2Play wrote: 
> 
> Aside from that, the Raspberry Pi 3 already has Bluetooth built-in. So,
> if you use M2P on the RPi3, you can use BT speakers without a dongle for
> an additional Squeezelite player from the first start.

Maybe not such a smart move using the Pi3 on-board BT, if also intending
to use the on-board wifi.

'Bluetooth LE connection attempt disables Wifi on RPi3 #1444'
(https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/1444)
'RPi3: Bluetooth impedes wifi #1552'
(https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/1552)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Bluetooth Speaker on PiCorePlayer

2016-10-14 Thread Max2Play

Hi guys,
I just wanted to clear up some confusion about our premium model and the
Bluetooth addon. Firstly, our free images do not just offer preinstalled
Squeezelite (and Shairport) players. Free features also include the
installer for the Squeezebox Server, Kodi preinstalled and Filesystem
Mount including SambaSahre support. The premium license then allows you
to install and configure all the additional plugins and addons we made
for the OS over time including, of course, updates and patches. It also
guarantees direct technical support over our forums with primary support
for premium users, whose posts are highlighted by "premium" banner.
What should also be mentioned, is that we do not take away any of the
configurations you have made during your status of premium user. We just
do not allow for newer updates of the premium features, once your
license has run out.

Aside from that, the Raspberry Pi 3 already has Bluetooth built-in. So,
if you use M2P on the RPi3, you can use BT speakers without a dongle for
an additional Squeezelite player from the first start.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Bluetooth Speaker on PiCorePlayer

2016-07-13 Thread nr002541

Reading this i do not know why i didn't think about using phone. Just
have to make sure i keep the battery charged as it doesn't last long
anymore. Although i have a portable battery pack. Sound wise i find the
latest Bluetooth version perfectly adequate and half decent range as
long as walls are not involved. 


Apesbrain wrote: 
> If only; it's actually €10 -a year!-  (Or €30/5 years.)  Who wants to be
> bothered by something like this?  To be fair, this license is only
> required to enable "premium" features of which BT support currently is
> one.  You can install the M2P image and run Squeezelite without being
> licensed but at that point I'd rather stick with piCorePlayer.
> 
> OP, you could try an outboard BT transmitter.  Aside from the limited
> range others have mentioned, sound quality-wise I'd think this would be
> adequate for casual use such as the gardening example you propose:
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4V23YE9124
> 
> EDIT: If you have a smartphone connected to your home network via wifi,
> here's a way around the range issue: install SqueezePlayer on your phone
> and output via BT to your portable speaker.  Just keep the phone in your
> pocket.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Bluetooth Speaker on PiCorePlayer

2016-07-08 Thread Julf

Man in a van wrote: 
> Where are the Home Service and Light Programme when we need them? and
> big old valve radios :cool: 

Well, several of us have built in raspberry pis running squeezelite into
big old valve radios. Not quite the same, but...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Bluetooth Speaker on PiCorePlayer

2016-07-07 Thread Man in a van

Apesbrain wrote: 
> If only; it's actually €10 -a year!-  (Or €30/5 years.)  Who wants to be
> bothered by something like this?  To be fair, this license is only
> required to enable "premium" features of which BT support currently is
> one.  You can install the M2P image and run Squeezelite without being
> licensed but at that point I'd rather stick with piCorePlayer.
> 

How about people who can't linux?

That was me when I started and I've only now, managed to scratch the
surface.

Forums like this help people who want to learn but not everybody does.

Most software developers are grateful when they receive a donation from
someone who uses their software, the 'license' is just a different
approach and I have no objection to a small fee in exchange for a
sometime bespoke service, Stefan has always been most helpful and keeps
the updates coming.

atb

Ronnie.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Bluetooth Speaker on PiCorePlayer

2016-07-07 Thread Apesbrain

Man in a van wrote: 
> True, but the licence is a piddling €10.
If only; it's actually €10 -a year!-  (Or €30/5 years.)  Who wants to be
bothered by something like this?  To be fair, this license is only
required to enable "premium" features of which BT support currently is
one.  You can install the M2P image and run Squeezelite without being
licensed but at that point I'd rather stick with piCorePlayer.

OP, you could try an outboard BT transmitter.  Aside from the limited
range others have mentioned, sound quality-wise I'd think this would be
adequate for casual use such as the gardening example you propose:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4V23YE9124



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Bluetooth Speaker on PiCorePlayer

2016-07-07 Thread Man in a van

d6jg wrote: 
> Well it is Ronnie. It's like AM compared to FM. 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


Found memories of listening to AM and LW, I miss a bit of fading and
warbling :)

Where are the Home Service and Light Programme when we need them? and
big old valve radios :cool: ( I'm lost all of a sudden :( )

Ronnie.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Bluetooth Speaker on PiCorePlayer

2016-07-06 Thread tcutting

I'd be interested in being able to SEND Bluetooth to my PiCorePlayer.  I
have a "fixed" PiCorePlayer in my garage, with built-in HiFiBerry Amp+
and speakers.  There are times when it would be convenient to be able to
use that setup to play content from my phone (Android).  Has anyone
looked at an "auxiliary" input to PiCorePlayer (bluetooth, or even
wired)?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Bluetooth Speaker on PiCorePlayer

2016-07-06 Thread d6jg

Man in a van wrote: 
> Well, don't beat about the bush man! say what you really mean ;):D:p
> 
> If the OP wants BlueTooth "make it so!".
> 
> I have used my cast thingy once (only £15, and 'bout what it's worth :(
> ).
> 
> atb
> 
> Ronnie.

Well it is Ronnie. It's like AM compared to FM. 

I know most can't hear a difference between 320 Kbps MP3 and FLAC but
there is a clearly audible difference between BT and a 320 Kbps MP3
streamed wirelessly. 

The Chromecast is much better quality than BT although nowhere near as
good as a native SB or a Pi derivative.




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Bluetooth Speaker on PiCorePlayer

2016-07-06 Thread castalla

Well, the cheapest option is max2play plus licence plus cheap BT dongle.
I still think the limiting factor is likely to be the BT reach (which
in my experience is about 4 m max without intervening walls, etc.).



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Bluetooth Speaker on PiCorePlayer

2016-07-06 Thread Man in a van

d6jg wrote: 
> But Bluetooth audio is junk compared to Castbridge or AirPlay. Bluetooth
> being a compressed / decompressed technology with definite loss. A
> Chromecast at £35 must be a better more flexible option than a Bluetooth
> dongle at £? plus a licence at £8.

Well, don't beat about the bush man! say what you really mean ;):D:p

If the OP wants BlueTooth "make it so!".

I have used my cast thingy once (only £15, and 'bout what it's worth :(
).

atb

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Bluetooth Speaker on PiCorePlayer

2016-07-06 Thread d6jg

Fair point. Well made.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Bluetooth Speaker on PiCorePlayer

2016-07-06 Thread castalla

d6jg wrote: 
> But Bluetooth audio is junk compared to Castbridge or AirPlay. Bluetooth
> being a compressed / decompressed technology with definite loss. A
> Chromecast at £35 must be a better more flexible option than a Bluetooth
> dongle at £? plus a licence at £8.

However, most BT speakers are battery powered.  For outside use then a
power point or a suitable battery pack will be needed for the chromecast
- more cost



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Bluetooth Speaker on PiCorePlayer

2016-07-06 Thread d6jg

Man in a van wrote: 
> True, but the licence is a piddling €10. (took me three attempts to get
> that Euro sign! :p )  
> 
> atb
> 
> Ronnie.

But Bluetooth audio is junk compared to Castbridge or AirPlay. Bluetooth
being a compressed / decompressed technology with definite loss. A
Chromecast at £35 must be a better more flexible option than a Bluetooth
dongle at £? plus a licence at £8.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Bluetooth Speaker on PiCorePlayer

2016-07-06 Thread Man in a van

Apesbrain wrote: 
> Be advised BT support on Max2Play is a premium plugin and requires a
> paid license.  I'll stick with piCorePlayer and a wire, thanks.

True, but the licence is a piddling €10. (took me three attempts to get
that Euro sign! :p )  

atb

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Bluetooth Speaker on PiCorePlayer

2016-07-06 Thread Apesbrain

castalla wrote: 
> If you really want pi to bluetooth then install max2play which enables
> bluetooth speakers, but you'll also need a bluetooth adapter for the pi.
Be advised BT support on Max2Play is a premium plugin and requires a
paid license.  I'll stick with piCorePlayer and a wire, thanks.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Bluetooth Speaker on PiCorePlayer

2016-07-06 Thread nr002541

Thanks for them suggestions i will look into them.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Bluetooth Speaker on PiCorePlayer

2016-07-05 Thread castalla

The wifi reach on bluetooth is very limited.

If you really want pi to bluetooth then install max2play which enables
bluetooth speakers, but you'll also need a bluetooth adapter for the
pi.

Castbridge is the way to go.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Bluetooth Speaker on PiCorePlayer

2016-07-05 Thread d6jg

I don't think that would work.

If you have an iOS thingy then iPeng can act as a Squeezebox Player and
willsend audio by Bluetooth or AirPlay.

I expect the same exists for Android users in some form.

Or if the speaker had aux in and is within wifi range get a Chromecast
Audio and use Phillipe's excellent Castbridge plugin. It turns the
Chromecast into a Squeezebox player. This is about £35 here in UK.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Bluetooth Speaker on PiCorePlayer

2016-07-05 Thread nr002541

i Do have an old pc i could set up to do this but i would prefer to use
my raspbery pi as i often leave on



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Bluetooth Speaker on PiCorePlayer

2016-07-05 Thread nr002541

HI

I have a portable speaker which has Bluetooth 4. I was thinking it would
be nice if i could use picoreplayer which is in the conservatory and
stream the sound using a Bluetooth adapter like this so i do not need to
run a wire
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-Bluetooth-Adapter-Integrated-USB-BT400/dp/B00CM83SC0/ref=sr_1_cc_2?s=aps=UTF8=1467749524=1-2-catcorr=bluetooth+usb

Thanks for the help



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Bluetooth Speaker on PiCorePlayer

2016-07-04 Thread d6jg

Explain more what you want to do and what you have hardware wise.


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[SlimDevices: Unix] Bluetooth Speaker on PiCorePlayer

2016-07-04 Thread nr002541

Hi

IS there support for bluetooth speaker on picoreplayer? I have used for
years now but i was just thinking it would be good if i could use
bluetooth speaker in my garden.



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