Re: flcCalendar date formats (was: Beta Testers needed)

2012-05-25 Thread FlexibleLearning
It could easily do so if that is important to you. Let me know off-list the specific format/s you need. Hugh Senior FLCo william humphrey wrote: Does it return date in SQL format? -mm-dd ? On 24 mei 2012, at 23:04, FlexibleLearning wrote: flcCalendar is a popup palette that

flcCalendar algorithms (was: Beta Testers needed)

2012-05-25 Thread FlexibleLearning
Yes there are, Mark, but those I have found needed massaging to not only accurately calculate the day-of-week from a julian number but also display the changeover month with the missing days. Hugh Senior FLCo Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Hugh, There are algorithms around for perpetual

Re: Webifying livecode is a real mystery to me

2012-05-25 Thread Pierre Sahores
What an informative great post, pedagogical and synthetic, to describe things, Andre ! Just want to add some details : RevServer makes us able to program multi-users cloud enabled web and saas solutions in following the best standards we will ever get to code in avoiding sad proprietary

Re: [ANN] Little plugin stack uploaded to RevOnline (Andre Garzia)

2012-05-25 Thread Rolf Kocherhans
Hello Mark Andre I try for weeks, to upload to revOnline, I have great stuff which I like to share ! I created a [Ticket#201205091326] two weeks ago with support about the problem ! They wrote back - but their answer leaves me in the wind…. I don't think I can post it here because it was

Re: Webifying livecode is a real mystery to me

2012-05-25 Thread Igor de Oliveira Couto
I am coming to LiveCode from a web development background. I must say, that my point of view may differ from what has been presented so far. First, I find web programming quite enjoyable. I use a very, very powerful and little-known text editor called 'Sublime Text'

Re: lcTaskList Performance

2012-05-25 Thread Michael Doub
Paul, That would be of interest to me. What do you have cooking? -= Mike On May 25, 2012, at 12:27 AM, Paul Looney wrote: Peter, Suppose there was a database built with LiveCode, that required no SQL, that worked with your data, that made your data multi-user, that provided

Android/mobGUI/screen sizes

2012-05-25 Thread Richard Miller
I'm stuck. John Craig is apparently not responding to any messages, whether here, directly by email, by support ticket, or via the LC forum. I've been trying to convert a LC ios app (which uses mobGUI) to Android. I was hoping I could just add one custom size of 480x800 to the two

Re: [ANN] Little plugin stack uploaded to RevOnline (Andre Garzia)

2012-05-25 Thread Andre Garzia
Hello Rolf and Mark, I remember once having three different logins for different items in RunRev websites. For this, I used my RunRev store login which if I remember correctly was not what I usually used with RevOnline but I may be mistaken. For years now, I have requested an overhaul of

Re: [ANN] Little plugin stack uploaded to RevOnline (Andre Garzia)

2012-05-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Andre Garzia wrote: For years now, I have requested an overhaul of RevOnline. It is a beautiful idea but it could be so much more. Why don`t RunRev publishes the protocols so that we can write our clients? I like it. Have you submitted an RQCC request for that? It'd get my vote. Sent from

what should be done with MobGUI?

2012-05-25 Thread Colin Holgate
In the book I've written I spend a good number of pages showing how to use MobGUI to get iOS looking controls, and native controls. I wrote it in such a way that once LiveCode had caught up feature wise on Android, the reader could easily deduce how to select the same controls for Android. Now

Re: what should be done with MobGUI?

2012-05-25 Thread Bernard Devlin
I was just thinking the same thought yesterday. Bernard On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: So, if John has stopped developing MobGUI, or got tied up long term on other projects, would it be possible for RunRev to take it in house?

Re: [PREVIEW] Task LIst Plugin (lcTaskList) for LiveCode

2012-05-25 Thread Bernard Devlin
I thought that ListMagic stopped working with Livecode some versions back. It's news to me that people are still able to work with it. I can't remember the details but I will see if I have it lying around and will try to use it again and see if it caused crashes for me. Bernard On Fri, May 25,

Re: Webifying livecode is a real mystery to me

2012-05-25 Thread Bernard Devlin
Bravo, Igor. This is exactly how I see it. But thanks to Andre and the others for making really good points. (I'd never heard of AngularJS, so I'm going to look into it). I'd bet 99.99% of developers have never heard of Livecode. Without a massive advertising campaign, I don't see them

Re: iOS Splash Screen masks display

2012-05-25 Thread Tim Jones
On May 23, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Graham Samuel wrote: I'm developing an iPad app which has an iOS splash screen (they all do), which AFAIK is there in order to show itself until the app is fully loaded. I am not sure how iOS knows that the load is complete, but anyway I seem to have a problem

Re: Android/mobGUI/screen sizes

2012-05-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richard Miller wrote: John Craig is apparently not responding to any messages, whether here, directly by email, by support ticket, or via the LC forum. This is one of the reasons I strongly prefer Curry Kenworthy's policy with his plugins: he sells the protected library for a great price,

Re: what should be done with MobGUI?

2012-05-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Colin Holgate wrote: ...would it be possible for RunRev to take it in house? With all due respect to the ambitious work John's done with MobGUI, it's no substitute for RunRev providing the same level of support for common native OS controls that they've provided so well on the desktop. Any

Re: what should be done with MobGUI?

2012-05-25 Thread Andre Garzia
Colin, If the request is just for screenshots from Android, well, your MobGUI examples should work on android, it is just a matter of screenshoting them. I don't know how your book schedule is, if the book is complete or not. The date on the site is august so you should be done or close already.

Re: Webifying livecode is a real mystery to me

2012-05-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Igor de Oliveira Couto wrote: I have been trying out LiveCode for about 3 weeks now, and I think we may be able to offer an alternative to the client, with LiveCode. The client can still keep their database on the shared host, but instead of accessing it with web browsers, we can develop

xml files with LC

2012-05-25 Thread ron barber
Greetings, I have been given several medium sized 3-5MB text files with lots of xml tags that I need to parse into human readable, formatted text. Are there any ways to deal with this 'automatically' or do I need to interpret each tag with an equivalent format in LC? Any pointers for accomplishing

Re: xml files with LC

2012-05-25 Thread Andre Garzia
Ron, If your files are XML files you should use RevXML routines to parse them. The user guide has a section on RevXML if I remember correctly. The dictionary can also be used if you select the library section and choose XML. LiveCode has a lot of XML goodness in it. =) Although not about XML

Re: xml files with LC

2012-05-25 Thread Roger Eller
Shows was a little too close to the URL. :) This works: http://revmedia.runrev.com/developers/lessons-and-tutorials/tutorials/intermediate-rss-feeds/http://revmedia.runrev.com/developers/lessons-and-tutorials/tutorials/intermediate-rss-feeds/shows ~Roger On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:36 AM,

Re: xml files with LC

2012-05-25 Thread Peter W A Wood
There is also a lesson on reading XML files ar http://lessons.runrev.com/s/lessons/m/4071/l/7011-how-to-read-in-data-from-an-xml-file Peter On 25 May 2012, at 22:36, Andre Garzia wrote: Ron, If your files are XML files you should use RevXML routines to parse them. The user guide has a

Re: lcTaskList Performance

2012-05-25 Thread Peter M. Brigham, MD
On May 25, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Bill Vlahos wrote: Peter, So you have over 140,000 objects to search through and it does that in 20 seconds? How long does it take the LiveCode Find and Replace function to search all of that? Searching through all those objects in 20 seconds might not be

Re: xml files with LC

2012-05-25 Thread ron barber
Thanks Andre, Roger and Peter, lots of good resources that I'll work with. Thanks Ron ps - don't know why I had the old address... Ron, If your files are XML files you should use RevXML routines to parse them. The user guide has a section on RevXML if I remember correctly. The dictionary

Re: what should be done with MobGUI?

2012-05-25 Thread Colin Holgate
What Richard says about native controls being best is true, and that simulating the look of controls is not as good. But that's only half of what MobGUI does. The more useful half is that you can use regular LiveCode objects as placeholders for what will be a native control later. MobGUI has a

Re: what should be done with MobGUI?

2012-05-25 Thread Björnke von Gierke
http://www.google.com/webhp?rls=en#hl=enrls=enoutput=searchsclient=psy-abq=iphonecontrolkit+livecodeoq=iphonecontrolkit+livecodeaq=faqi=aql=1gs_l=hp.3...332.6757.0.6899.29.26.2.0.0.0.135.2235.13j9.22.0.cish.1.0.0.tX-aSchbOOYpbx=1bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osbfp=4f8a6ae9986b6f6fbiw=1161bih=687

Re: what should be done with MobGUI?

2012-05-25 Thread Colin Holgate
I'm pretty expert with that Googly thing you know! The page for iPhoneControlKit starts with http://87.106.227.245/;, and that doesn't feel much like a permanent link, that you would want to put into a book. On May 25, 2012, at 11:23 AM, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote:

Re: Webifying livecode is a real mystery to me

2012-05-25 Thread Bob Sneidar
Great article. I think a good way to describe Revserver is a web server that allows the use of LC code embedded in HTML. You can't ever get away from HTML of course. It's what browsers know and understand. I'm with Jim in that learning new languages always puts me off, but I understand that

Re: xml files with LC

2012-05-25 Thread Mark Wieder
ron- I'd go with what Andre said, but with the caveat that xml was never meant to be a human-readable format. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,

Re: Webifying livecode is a real mystery to me

2012-05-25 Thread Bob Sneidar
It has always seemed to me that the process of enhancing browsers has resulted in eventually breaking them. Remember when Safari was the most stable browser available for the Mac? Then they started enhancing it. It may be in a good state now, but I can remember being forced to use Firefox

Re: what should be done with MobGUI?

2012-05-25 Thread Björnke von Gierke
Of course, but there's nothing else, and google shows that :) On 25.05.2012, at 17:46, Colin Holgate wrote: I'm pretty expert with that Googly thing you know! The page for iPhoneControlKit starts with http://87.106.227.245/;, and that doesn't feel much like a permanent link, that you would

Re: Webifying livecode is a real mystery to me

2012-05-25 Thread Bob Sneidar
We may find ourselves coming full circle, where companies say to us as developers, The web app we had designed for us is ok, but it lacks some features we simply cannot get from a web app. I need you to design a desktop app with mobile equivalents to do what our web app does, and then add these

Re: [ANN] Little plugin stack uploaded to RevOnline (Andre Garzia)

2012-05-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Rolf- Friday, May 25, 2012, 1:41:04 AM, you wrote: And why don't they fix this immediately, I think that revOnline is a fantastic feature which really should just work - always ! This has been a problem since at least late last year. There's a ticket filed from November or December. I tried

Re: what should be done with MobGUI?

2012-05-25 Thread Björnke von Gierke
oh, maybe add tinyurl or bit.ly or qery.us links, that way you can retarget them when/if an url changes. ah no, qery.us doesn't have that feature... Mabye smarter to make a link page on the publishers behalf anyway, as that's probably more business like :) On 25.05.2012, at 17:58, Björnke

Re: lcTaskList Performance

2012-05-25 Thread Bob Sneidar
After some testing I am certain that my problem does not arise from the speed at which the plugin indexes the scripts. I also, for now, do not believe it has anything to do with sqlYoga. I have stepped through code that calls sqlYoga without problems. There is something I am doing in my code

Re: lcTaskList Performance

2012-05-25 Thread Bob Sneidar
You may want to consider having a reputable dev do all that for you, and then pay you royalties on all sales after that, should it go commercial. Bob On May 25, 2012, at 7:57 AM, Peter M. Brigham, MD wrote: Unless I were heading towards creating a commercial product, which I have dreamed

Re: [ANN] Little plugin stack uploaded to RevOnline (Andre Garzia)

2012-05-25 Thread Andre Garzia
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Rolf- Friday, May 25, 2012, 1:41:04 AM, you wrote: And why don't they fix this immediately, I think that revOnline is a fantastic feature which really should just work - always ! This has been a problem since at

Re: xml files with LC

2012-05-25 Thread Björnke von Gierke
I'd say, don't use the revxml functions, but go with the itemdel linedel approach: - only if this is a one time job, or the files are made by a stable source (not accepting _any_ xml or error prone sources) - Don't use a fuckton of the weirder type of data containers - You have smalish data

Re: what should be done with MobGUI?

2012-05-25 Thread Andre Garzia
I've built a URL shortening service at http://fon.nu if you need, I retarget it later for you. On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote: oh, maybe add tinyurl or bit.ly or qery.us links, that way you can retarget them when/if an url changes. ah no, qery.us

Re: [ANN] Little plugin stack uploaded to RevOnline (Andre Garzia)

2012-05-25 Thread Andre Garzia
RevOnline connects to http://developer.runrev.com/revonline.irev, it sends requests using a GET call sending a url parameter called request, this parameter is base64 encoded but the decoding result of this is binary. I thought it was compressed data but it appears not to be. My second guess is

Re: [PREVIEW] Task LIst Plugin (lcTaskList) for LiveCode

2012-05-25 Thread Peter Haworth
I would definitely be interested in using List Magic. I never did get a copy of it but I find myself more and more in situations where a datagrid is overkill for what I need but the standard LC table isn't enough. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 6:33 AM,

Re: xml files with LC

2012-05-25 Thread Bernard Devlin
I will show the list my secret shame of Invented Anywhere But Here syndrome (the opposite of NIH). Trevor has provided some handlers that convert xml data to LC arrays. By miles it is the easiest way to explore the structure of a XML document, and once one is familiar with the structure through

Re: [ANN] Little plugin stack uploaded to RevOnline (Andre Garzia)

2012-05-25 Thread Björnke von Gierke
RevOnline also for some weird reason somehow ties into your login from their online shop (and the same goes for the webnotes), which is... well LC has previously told people not to snoop around there. Meanwhile they've promised some sort of API, which of course never came. My guess is that

Re: what should be done with MobGUI?

2012-05-25 Thread Björnke von Gierke
uhm i think you missunderstood how that works? they're services. you go there, paste any url into a field, and it gives you a redirect-url. If the target url changes, you need to use a service that allows you to change the target url. not all services allow that, and some services die. I

Re: Drag/Drop Cursor

2012-05-25 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Pete, Set the acceptdrop to false in that handler. -- Kind regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Http://economy-x-talk.com Share the clipboard of your computer over a local network with Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com Op 25 mei 2012 om 19:37 heeft Peter Haworth

Re: what should be done with MobGUI?

2012-05-25 Thread Dar Scott
Besides being of interest to those who crave such controls, this page has a nice tutorial on how to embed a stack that is not a substack into an app. Dar On May 25, 2012, at 9:23 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote:

Re: Drag/Drop Cursor

2012-05-25 Thread René Micout
Le 25 mai 2012 à 19:44, Mark Schonewille a écrit : Hi Pete, Set the acceptdrop to false in that handler. Hello Mark, I can read in the documentation : The acceptDrop property is deprecated as of version 2.9. Setting the acceptDrop to true is equivalent to setting the dragAction to copy. I

Re: what should be done with MobGUI?

2012-05-25 Thread Andre Garzia
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: Instead of me deciding which of your pages to take people to, and to make a short url for the book, that you can alter later, could you just tell me a short url to use? Just paste the long URL there, click shorten and

Re: Drag/Drop Cursor

2012-05-25 Thread Peter Haworth
Thanks Mark. I tried that but the cursor still didn't change. I think the cursor I need is the one that is shown in the field where a drag starts, before you move out of that field - it's that circle with a horizontal bar through it indicating you can't do something. I looked through the LC

Re: what should be done with MobGUI?

2012-05-25 Thread Colin Holgate
I see where I was going wrong now. I misread Andre as Andreas! I was trying to get Andreas to suggest which of the pages would be the right one to shorten the url of, using his url shortening tool. Only it was Andre's url shortener and not Andreas'! If I do add iPhoneControlKit to the

Re: what should be done with MobGUI?

2012-05-25 Thread Mark Schonewille
Colin, You could register a new domain and create a site with links for your book. That way, you only need to refer to that domain name in the entire book, you can easily update links and if necessary you write supplements about alternative tools or the obsoleteness of tools. -- Kind regards,

Peter M. Brigham´s textlib.rev

2012-05-25 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Hi, last year in summer Peter M. Brigham posted a download link to his library textlib.rev. The download link is not working anymore. And unfortunately i lost the file. Could someone help out? Or maybe Peter, if you read this, could you put it online again? Regards, Matthias

Re: Peter M. Brigham´s textlib.rev

2012-05-25 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Hi, Bob Sneidar already helped me out. Regards, Matthias Am 25.05.2012 um 23:26 schrieb Matthias Rebbe: Hi, last year in summer Peter M. Brigham posted a download link to his library textlib.rev. The download link is not working anymore. And unfortunately i lost the file. Could

Re: Peter M. Brigham´s textlib.rev

2012-05-25 Thread Peter M. Brigham, MD
On May 25, 2012, at 5:40 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Hi, Bob Sneidar already helped me out. Regards, Matthias Am 25.05.2012 um 23:26 schrieb Matthias Rebbe: Hi, last year in summer Peter M. Brigham posted a download link to his library textlib.rev. The download link is not

Re: Android/mobGUI/screen sizes

2012-05-25 Thread Monte Goulding
A plea to all third-party devs: if you want to sell to pros, please understand that pros need source. We'll pay extra for it, but not having an option for it will make it impossible to consider using your library at all. Well this is an interesting idea. I added a droptool to mergExt the

Re: Standalone problem

2012-05-25 Thread Peter Haworth
Jacque, Bit late on this but I've just successfully built an external( whooppee!) and am now left with the task of installing it in the correct place. I understand your explanation in this thread. I guess my question relates to the newsletter article that explains how to make an external and use

Re: Drag/Drop Cursor

2012-05-25 Thread Mark Schonewille
Yes, it should be: set the dragAction to none -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 We will have room for new projects after 1 June. Contact me now and

Re: Drag/Drop Cursor

2012-05-25 Thread Peter Haworth
Thank you Mark, that works perfectly. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Yes, it should be: set the dragAction to none -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and

Re: Drag/Drop Cursor

2012-05-25 Thread Peter Haworth
As mentioned , that work great but now I have a couple of other issues. When I drop into the field that accepts drops, the dropped text is highlighted. How can I get rid of the highlight? It looks like maybe I have to use the dragEnd message even though that is sent to the source of the

Re: what should be done with MobGUI?

2012-05-25 Thread Gerry Orkin
Is MobGUI abandonware? Does anyone know if John is working on updates? Cheers Gerry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: iOS Splash Screen masks display

2012-05-25 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 5/25/12 2:09 PM, Graham Samuel wrote: I found that if I put a script like this into the first card: on openCard wait 4 seconds go to Card2 end openCard then the splash screen stays around for an extra 4 seconds, and the first thing the user sees is Card 2 - Card 1 is never visible. The

Re: Standalone problem

2012-05-25 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 5/25/12 7:20 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Jacque, Bit late on this but I've just successfully built an external( whooppee!) and am now left with the task of installing it in the correct place. Congrats. :) I know it was a difficult trek. I've never had to deal with any of that, and I don't

Re: what should be done with MobGUI?

2012-05-25 Thread Monte Goulding
I was just chatting to John the other day and it's not abandonware. -- Monte Goulding On 26/05/2012, at 12:52 PM, Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com wrote: Is MobGUI abandonware? Does anyone know if John is working on updates? Cheers Gerry

Re: [OT] Apple Rant

2012-05-25 Thread Richmond
On 05/26/2012 07:45 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: Having a great Friday evening thanks to Apple. Still in the throes of dealing with Apple Store submission for my app. TO register it, I have to upload at least one screenshot (why?). No problem, I have several created with the OS X ability to take