Re: GPS and iPod or iPad wifi

2012-06-01 Thread Ludovic Thébault
Le 31 mai 2012 à 21:46, John Dixon a écrit : Did you check to see if the location sensor is available ? mobileSensorAvailable(sensor) Now, yes, it return True when i use my external GPS. But the mobileCurrentLocation return empty If i take a picture with the apple application, the

Re: Hypercard: the missing link to the web

2012-06-01 Thread Peter Alcibiades
You're not taking account of the Open Source movement. Were I starting again at this point, the choice would be Python. Genuinely free in every way, and not just as in beer. There is actually an impulse in many of us, which neither Friedman, Thatcher nor Marx were able to admit, to contribute

Re: Hypercard: the missing link to the web

2012-06-01 Thread Kay C Lan
Peter, I like your prior comments but I have to disagree with this: The problem with Hypercard, and what led to its demise, was fundamentally that it was not free. I also don't understand this: The thing that killed it was a dog in the manger approach to things. Unless you are talking

Re: Hypercard: the missing link to the web

2012-06-01 Thread Richmond
On 06/01/2012 12:12 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 5/31/12 1:45 PM, Bernard Devlin wrote: I'm not sure they would use Livecode anyway. I'm not so sure. A large number of the old HC mailing list are here now. :) I started with Hypercard in 1993 when it came bundled on a Mac LC475: the

Re: Hypercard: the missing link to the web

2012-06-01 Thread Bernard Devlin
:) I know they (and you) are here! I even remember the days when Ms. De Voto used to also grace this list. And, of course, the late, great Eric Chatonet. It is all those coulda-woulda-shouldas over at Ars Technica I was referring to. After all, I was able to discover Runrev by accident 10

Re: hello

2012-06-01 Thread Richmond
On 06/01/2012 01:18 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: If you don't mind me asking, what was your old password. I don't need the exact, I'm just wondering if was 'my birthday' or like '12345' or something that would be considered weak. I'm just interested in how sophisticated the attack was. My passwords

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-06-01 Thread Richmond
On 06/01/2012 02:17 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Francis Nugent Dixon effe...@wanadoo.frwrote: And they all Start Up and Shut Down in record time (now that IS a big advantage !) Are there any other advantages ? I misread this the first time, I thought you were

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-06-01 Thread Richmond
On 06/01/2012 02:31 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: After reading that article, it reenforces this growing concern that I have that more and more people at Apple are not competent. It feels like after Steve passed that a lot of people who were not getting their way earlier are getting their way now,

Re: Hypercard: the missing link to the web

2012-06-01 Thread Glen Bojsza
Back in the early 2000 pythonware was formed by several prominent leaders in the python community. It was delivering an IDE for python...I actually was one of the first and few who bought a license. They eventually shut down. From a conversation with one of the founders I learnt that people

Re: Hypercard: the missing link to the web

2012-06-01 Thread Peter Alcibiades
It wasn't free as in open source free. It was proprietary and restricted and there was no way to jail break it. The dog in the manger approach was, we don't want it, we cannot use it (eat it) and so we will not let anyone else who could use it and make good things out of it have it either. They

[ANN] Valentina Studio 5.0b32 adds mySQL to { SQLite, PostgreSQL and Valentina }

2012-06-01 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
Hi All, http://www.valentina-db.com/download/beta/5.0b32 Here you can download WIN and MAC versions of Valentina Studio 5.0 * Now it has mySQL plugin also. * This is about10 days before final release build. so this should be quite stable build ... well, may be mySQL

Re: Hypercard: the missing link to the web

2012-06-01 Thread -=JB=-
Apple may have done the best thing by both letting hyperCard die and not allowing it to be open source. What if they have a program that was written in hyperCard but they totally rewrote for OS X that is revolutionary and holding the rights to the pattens and source helped secure pattens for

Re: Hypercard: the missing link to the web

2012-06-01 Thread Bernard Devlin
Well, things could be hotting up in the dynamic IDE world. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ibdknox/light-table?ref=history Light Table looks like it is a modern take on the old Smalltalk IDE (Visualage, Squeak). It's going back to the idea of having code in an image (stacks in our case),

RE: Hypercard: the missing link to the web

2012-06-01 Thread Lynn Fredricks
Even if Apple gave away Hypercard to people who bought a mac without it, Apple would still be paying for it. In the case of all those other things, the taxpayer is paying for it, or else the company that hired him is paying for it, and actually he is likely himself paying for it because

Re: Hypercard: the missing link to the web

2012-06-01 Thread Peter M. Brigham, MD
On Jun 1, 2012, at 1:47 AM, stephen barncard wrote: yeah, like me, I was devoted to read the Evangelist and Hypercard forums every day. I piped the forums into the studio First Class systems. First Class! Now that brings back memories! Is there a museum somewhere for dead software? -- Peter

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-06-01 Thread Paul Looney
On May 31, 2012, at 4:17 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: ... By the end the day my wife will have 10-15 apps running, so when I go to start her computer in the morning to have another play with Lion it takes forever to get all those apps back up and running and all those windows in place. My old IIci

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-06-01 Thread Warren Samples
On 06/01/2012 10:15 AM, Paul Looney wrote: Obviously Apple is thinking ahead to the day when all of the Macs will have SSDs. This is a coin whose flip side is that they would obviously not be thinking about their current users whose computers do not. That makes this coin worth zero cents.

Re: Android: custom prop vs. .txt?

2012-06-01 Thread ambassador
Nicolas Cueto wrote: I have an Android app that uses a small amount of data (under 10Kb). The data gets updated regularly. Haven't decided when. Perhaps every half-second, or perhaps when the user hits the hardware home-button. Right now, the data is stored both as a custom prop of the card

Re: Nuts! Where did that go? WTH!

2012-06-01 Thread Bob Sneidar
OIC I have had this problem too! When I am in the debugger, if code execution ends in any way by stepping, my IDE will lock. This is on Mac OS X, and I'm not sure that it happens every time, but it has happened enough in the past that I am very careful to either cancel code execution or else

revCopyFile questions

2012-06-01 Thread Peter Haworth
I'm trying to use revcopyfile to copy an application from a folder on my disk drive to a mounted disk image (OS X). Keep getting Execution error from revCopyFile which really isn't very helpful. When copying an application file, should the file name be myApp or myApp.app? Or should I be using

Re: Hypercard: the missing link to the web

2012-06-01 Thread Bob Sneidar
Exactly my point. Maybe it's a matter of semantics, or perhaps I imagine things work a certain way inside a corporation, but I always envision a bunch of suits sitting around a conference table, deciding how to price a product, and taking into consideration all the free stuff they are putting

Re: Hypercard: the missing link to the web

2012-06-01 Thread Bob Sneidar
You could just offer the dog a steak, but then the analogy seems to be breaking down. ;-) Bob On Jun 1, 2012, at 8:22 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: Peter- Friday, June 1, 2012, 4:11:18 AM, you wrote: The dog in the manger approach was, we don't want it, we cannot use it (eat it) and so we

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-06-01 Thread Bob Sneidar
I have been forced to install Lion on a number of management office computers, not because it is better or people like it, but because the department head insists on using iCloud for shared calendaring, and will not consider any other alternative, and Apple will not consider making iCloud

RE: Android: custom prop vs. .txt?

2012-06-01 Thread Ralph DiMola
On Android the stack is in the engine folder that is read-only. It resides in the apk(a zip formatted file). The engine folder is virtual and read only. If you want to modify a stack it needs to be a separate stack that you move to the documents folder. Any file that you want read/write must be

Re: Android: custom prop vs. .txt?

2012-06-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ralph DiMola wrote: -Original Message- Issuing a save command to the stack with the props should take slightly longer than writing the data to a file, but with only 10k the difference will be negligible. If you don't need to save often then using custom props will provide good

Re: revCopyFile questions

2012-06-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/1/12 11:30 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: I'm trying to use revcopyfile to copy an application from a folder on my disk drive to a mounted disk image (OS X). Keep getting Execution error from revCopyFile which really isn't very helpful. When copying an application file, should the file name be

Re: Android: custom prop vs. .txt?

2012-06-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/1/12 12:30 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: My tip on the value of using stack files for data storage assumes that the stack file has had its filename property set to an appropriate location for writes. I just thought of an interesting possibility: if the stack is included in the engine folder

RE: Hypercard: the missing link to the web

2012-06-01 Thread Lynn Fredricks
If Apple had no included anything for free, (not sure how to measure that) would they have charged less? Hmmm... no way to test it, so it must remain a mystery. The point of a bundle is to justify the price you want your target customer to pay - in Apple's case, they wanted you to pay

Re: Android: custom prop vs. .txt?

2012-06-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
J. Landman Gay wrote: On 6/1/12 12:30 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: My tip on the value of using stack files for data storage assumes that the stack file has had its filename property set to an appropriate location for writes. I just thought of an interesting possibility: if the stack is

Another 5-out-5 review for LC!

2012-06-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Macworld UK gave LiveCode a 5-out-of-5-star review: http://www.macworld.co.uk/mac/reviews/?reviewid=3361007 That's a nice follow-up to LiveCode being voted Best Developer Tool at the MacTech conference in November: http://runrev.com/newsletter/november/issue122/newsletter1.php Rackin' up the

Re: Hypercard: the missing link to the web

2012-06-01 Thread Bob Sneidar
The performa series was an attempt at making Apple systems to compete with the PC's of the time. A few were pretty good, but there were some pigs too. In the final analysis what Apple produced in an attempt to market cheap computers, was... well... cheap computers! Good riddance I say! I'll pay

Re: Hypercard: the missing link to the web

2012-06-01 Thread David C.
Interestingly enough, as a Window and Linux user, I had never even heard of Hyper-Card when I found MetaCard, then Rev and finally LiveCode... I was just looking for a decent development tool for those two platforms only. Mac's or anything to do with Apple never even crossed my mind. (Seldom does

Re: Android: custom prop vs. .txt?

2012-06-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/1/12 1:46 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: J. Landman Gay wrote: On 6/1/12 12:30 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: My tip on the value of using stack files for data storage assumes that the stack file has had its filename property set to an appropriate location for writes. I just thought of an

Re: Transparent button issue

2012-06-01 Thread tbodine
I guess a workaround might be to use a label over the button. Thanks for the ideas. I went with the label workaround. Thanks, Tom Bodine -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Transparent-button-issue-tp4650086p4650140.html Sent from the Revolution

Re: revCopyFile questions

2012-06-01 Thread Peter Haworth
Thanks Jacque. I treid the formats you recommended and I'm still getting execution error back from revCopyFile with nothing else in the result. The disk image is mounted. I checked for the presence of the disk image using the message box as you suggested using the message box and got true.. I

Re: Another 5-out-5 review for LC!

2012-06-01 Thread Ken Ray
On Jun 1, 2012, at 1:51 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Macworld UK gave LiveCode a 5-out-of-5-star review: http://www.macworld.co.uk/mac/reviews/?reviewid=3361007 That's a nice follow-up to LiveCode being voted Best Developer Tool at the MacTech conference in November:

Re: Hypercard: the missing link to the web

2012-06-01 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Peter Alcibiades palcibiades-fi...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: The dog in the manger approach was, we don't want it, we cannot use it (eat it) and so we will not let anyone else who could use it and make good things out of it have it either. You are certainly right

Re: Hypercard: the missing link to the web

2012-06-01 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Peter M. Brigham, MD pmb...@gmail.comwrote: First Class! Now that brings back memories! Is there a museum somewhere for dead software? What?? I still access the local Mac User Group via FirstClass 9.1 - not that I would recommend it to anyone, there is

Re: Another 5-out-5 review for LC!

2012-06-01 Thread Igor de Oliveira Couto
Congratulations, RunRev! On 02/06/2012, at 4:51 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Macworld UK gave LiveCode a 5-out-of-5-star review: http://www.macworld.co.uk/mac/reviews/?reviewid=3361007 Well deserved! And, talking about reviews, I came across a rather scathing write-up on LiveCode at the very

Re: Hypercard: the missing link to the web

2012-06-01 Thread Kay C Lan
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Lynn Fredricks lfredri...@proactive-intl.com wrote: Within each product line (Macs, iPod, iPhone, iPad) you have very clear and very simple differentiated levels - the low end is cheapest and sports fewer features, Very interesting you should write that,

Re: Upgrade to Lion

2012-06-01 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote: My younger son, who is at a private school in Germany informs me that all the kids there are buying new MacBooks with Lion installed; and, the first thing they do is blank the hard-drive and install Snow Leopard!

Re: Another 5-out-5 review for LC!

2012-06-01 Thread Kay C Lan
What a great write up, congrats Runrev Team. In light of the other thread about HyperCard, the only thing that makes me wince in the write-up is the multiple references to the stack/card metaphor. Whilst a knowledge of the past is all well and good, for the rising generation of potential

Re: Another 5-out-5 review for LC!

2012-06-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/1/12 8:22 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richard- Friday, June 1, 2012, 11:51:17 AM, you wrote: Macworld UK gave LiveCode a 5-out-of-5-star review: http://www.macworld.co.uk/mac/reviews/?reviewid=3361007 Interesting tidbit here: one of my coworkers spotted the article this afternoon. Never