Re: Strict Compile Mode

2012-10-11 Thread Guglielmo Braguglia
Hi Pete, if you declare a variable "global",the variable IS GLOBAL FOR ANY STACK and is "*persistent*". This means that the variable and its value exist regardless of the stack that created. If you liketo see do just a simple test ... ... create a stack and from this stack create a "global"

Re: [OT] Where ill conceived copyright laws can lead

2012-10-11 Thread Peter Haworth
That's not copyright, that's patent, different thing although just as weird! One problem with copyright laws is that, as with a lot of laws, they are different in every country. Pete lcSQL Software On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Richmond wrote: > The recent spat over

Re: [OT] Baseball

2012-10-11 Thread Richmond
With apologies to our non-USA and those who live outside the SF Bay Area but GOOO GIANTS Hmm . . . Rounders. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subsc

Re: [OT] Where ill conceived copyright laws can lead

2012-10-11 Thread Richmond
On 11/10/12 23:40, Bob Sneidar wrote: On Oct 11, 2012, at 12:39 PM, Richmond wrote: 3. Let's suppose, for the sake of argument, I am a brilliant computer program (that will be my only joke in this posting, I promise) and I make a complete clone of RunRev Livecode from scratch: virtually look

Re: Mountain Lion File Versioning

2012-10-11 Thread J. Landman Gay
That could happen if the location of the plugin changed, and the stack does not have its destroystack property set to true. Without destroystack, the stack will stay resident in RAM after closing. If it re-opens from a different file path, the engine would think it's a duplicate. If LiveCode

Re: [OT] Where ill conceived copyright laws can lead

2012-10-11 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > > I think that's covered under fair use as derivative art. > > Which of course is one of the central tenets of copyright. Most people confuse copyright and think it's a means of preventing material from being copied, when in fact it is the bas

Re: [OT] Where ill conceived copyright laws can lead

2012-10-11 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond- Thursday, October 11, 2012, 12:39:31 PM, you wrote: > Or, put it another way, if Shakespeare were alive could he sue the pants > off the producers of 'Westside Story' because they ripped-off 'Romeo and > Juliet'? I think that's covered under fair use as derivative art. -- -Mark Wiede

Re: Strict Compile Mode

2012-10-11 Thread Mark Wieder
Pete- Thursday, October 11, 2012, 5:23:18 PM, you wrote: > ! Sorry I don't remember the exact details, maybe Chipp will chime in and set the record straight, but it was something like wanting to perform an operation of several stacks. He loads up a global variable from one stack into mem

Re: Mountain Lion File Versioning

2012-10-11 Thread William Vlahos
It would be good if there was an example of how to use versioning in our own apps. Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. lcTaskList: (http://www.infowallet.com/lctasklist/index.htm)

Program not responding

2012-10-11 Thread Cal Horner
I upgraded to LC 5.5.2 and Win 7 to pull myself into the 21st century. Since then I have had the message "Programname not responding" while in the IDE and also in some of my LC executables. Then the whole system goes to sleep for a while, finally shakes itself off and comes back to the real wor

Re: Strict Compile Mode

2012-10-11 Thread Peter Haworth
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Normally I think of this > as a nuisance, but Chipp Walters once showed me a very clever way to take > advantage of this "feature". > ! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runre

Re: Strict Compile Mode

2012-10-11 Thread Mark Wieder
Peter Haworth writes: > It's definitly true if you want to refer to it as a global when the script > runs, I agree. But I got the impression from Mark's post that perhaps the > compile process (or I guess more correctly the Apply process) recognises > globals that have been defined in other scri

Re: [OT] Where ill conceived copyright laws can lead

2012-10-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
On Oct 11, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: >> Or put it yet another way. Since Solomon coined the phrase, "There's nothing >> new under the sun", shouldn't we all be >> paying his descendants royalties on every idea we have? > > Well, there are conspiracy theorists who basically claim we d

Re: Cannot build a standalone application

2012-10-11 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > A small claim to fame of mine, I was the first person anywhere to be running > System 7 full time. I was using it all the >time from around Alpha 9. The System 7 team themselves were using it full time >from about Alpha 11. I think it was >a

Re: [OT] Where ill conceived copyright laws can lead

2012-10-11 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Lynn Fredricks wrote: > The supremes could come back with something broad and > draconian, which in turn could up-end almost every aspect of trade in the > USA. Or nothing could happen. Or whatever. In other words, another day in > SCOTUSville. As an attorney . .

Re: Strict Compile Mode

2012-10-11 Thread Peter Haworth
It's definitly true if you want to refer to it as a global when the script runs, I agree. But I got the impression from Mark's post that perhaps the compile process (or I guess more correctly the Apply process) recognises globals that have been defined in other scripts and not in the current one,

Re: [OT] Baseball

2012-10-11 Thread Peter Haworth
I did apologise in advance :-) Pete lcSQL Software On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > Wait! I think sports should be added to the list of volatile subjects, > along with religion and cheese! > > j/k > > On Oct 11, 2012, at 2:09 PM, Peter Haworth wrote

Re: Strict Compile Mode

2012-10-11 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > the doctor who is told by his patient that his shoulder hurts when he moves > it "like this." The doctor replies, "Well don't do that!" That was Groucho Marx And decades later, I got the same physician when my sinus was reacting to white win

Re: Scrolling List Field Line Highlighting

2012-10-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
I think that is controlled by the OS. The end user may have to diddle with his appearance manager. Bob On Oct 11, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > I've noticed that the highlighting of selected lines in a scrolling list > field looks a lot different on Windows than on Mac. The hilite

Re: [OT] Baseball

2012-10-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
Wait! I think sports should be added to the list of volatile subjects, along with religion and cheese! j/k On Oct 11, 2012, at 2:09 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > With apologies to our non-USA and those who live outside the SF Bay Area > but GOOO GIANTS > Pete

Re: Strict Compile Mode

2012-10-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
I don't think that is true Pete. I think you DO have to define a global, either in the script or in the handler in order for it to be treated as such. What is causing the shadow variable glitch I don't know. I personally don't like using strict compile, but I understand it's really a personal

Scrolling List Field Line Highlighting

2012-10-11 Thread Peter Haworth
I've noticed that the highlighting of selected lines in a scrolling list field looks a lot different on Windows than on Mac. The hilite color is the same but on a Mac, the text in the line stays black at it's defined color (black for me) whereas on Windows, the text is colored white and pretty muc

Re: Mountain Lion File Versioning

2012-10-11 Thread Peter Haworth
Folks, Been checking around the web and I don't think versioning is causing what Guglielmo experienced. It seems that versions of files are stored in a special, hidden folder named .DocumentRevisions-V100 at the root level of your drive, not in the same folder as the original file. Certainly some

Re: [OT] Baseball

2012-10-11 Thread Peter Haworth
Cincinnatti couldn't do either :-) Pete lcSQL Software On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 2:19 PM, kee nethery wrote: > > On Oct 11, 2012, at 2:09 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > > > With apologies to our non-USA and those who live outside the SF Bay Area > > but GOOO GIANTS >

Re: Strict Compile Mode

2012-10-11 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi Mark, Checked my global definitions and there were none for the variable in question, but Guglielmo's suggestion worked for me. However, this puts another little gotcha into the whole area of global definitions. Before starting to use strict compile mode, I've been bitten by referring to a glo

Re: Strict Compile Mode

2012-10-11 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi Guglielmo, Thanks for the idea - it worked for me too! Don;t worry, I won;t ask why - I've given up trying to figure out why LC does some things :-) Pete lcSQL Software On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Guglielmo Braguglia < guglie...@braguglia.ch> wrote: > Hi Pete, >

Re: [OT] Baseball

2012-10-11 Thread kee nethery
On Oct 11, 2012, at 2:09 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > With apologies to our non-USA and those who live outside the SF Bay Area > but GOOO GIANTS Would you turn them into gooo with a blender or would you use some kind of chemical to dissolve them? Kee _

Re: Mountain Lion File Versioning

2012-10-11 Thread Peter Haworth
Folks, I'm really interested in figuring out what happened here so if anyone can figure it out, please post! lcStackBrowser saved a couple of things in custom props between runs but I'm already in the process of changing it to save the same info in a file to avoid whatever is causing this problem

[OT] Baseball

2012-10-11 Thread Peter Haworth
With apologies to our non-USA and those who live outside the SF Bay Area but GOOO GIANTS Pete lcSQL Software ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and man

Re: [OT] Where ill conceived copyright laws can lead

2012-10-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
On Oct 11, 2012, at 12:39 PM, Richmond wrote: > 3. Let's suppose, for the sake of argument, I am a brilliant computer program > (that will be my only > joke in this posting, I promise) and I make a complete clone of RunRev > Livecode from scratch: > > virtually looks the same, functions the sa

Re: [OT] Where ill conceived copyright laws can lead

2012-10-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
In one sense I can see your point, however the analogy breaks down in a couple ways. First, you could never have played the 45 on an 8 track or Cassette box. With software, purchasing a new PC does not necessarily mean you cannot run the software you purchased for the last one, and if it runs no

3 minutes to emulate PlayCommand agent X on (Mountain) Lion

2012-10-11 Thread Thierry Douez
3 minutes to emulate PlayCommand agent X on (Mountain) Lion ! Today I got the documentation of Shakobox which works with PlayCommand Agent X. The API is quite short: SBplay instrument,tempo,notestring -- Plays a string of notes, formatted like the play command in HyperTalk. -- Instrume

Re: [OT] Where ill conceived copyright laws can lead

2012-10-11 Thread Richmond
On 10/11/2012 10:28 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: First of all let me say that the LAW-IS-THE-LAW and I don't try to steal intellectual property. I tell my friends "just because it's easy, doesn't make it legal". No, and neither do I . . . BUT . . . there are some interesting questions that pop up

RE: [OT] Where ill conceived copyright laws can lead

2012-10-11 Thread Ralph DiMola
First of all let me say that the LAW-IS-THE-LAW and I don't try to steal intellectual property. I tell my friends "just because it's easy, doesn't make it legal". That being said, I don't feel sorry for the record companies or artists at all. The cigar smoking old school record company execs and th

Re: [ANN] MobGUI update

2012-10-11 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Hi, thanks for your replies. just received an email from John. I was one of the first people to buy MobGUI, and my payment went through PayPal. Orders via RunRev get stored in another database table, so my key was not found. He fixed it already and the download works now. Regards, Matthias

Re: Mountain Lion File Versioning

2012-10-11 Thread Guglielmo Braguglia
Ciao Scott, yes, is the same thing I thought. Because Peter save some information inside the plugin, maybe Mountain Lion see this file changed and try to do some kind of versioning or reopening the last version ... I don't know ... Guglielmo On 11.10.2012 20:53, Scott Rossi wrote: Maybe th

Re: [ANN] MobGUI update

2012-10-11 Thread Mike Kerner
Worked for me, too. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." ___ use-li

Re: Mountain Lion File Versioning

2012-10-11 Thread Scott Rossi
Maybe this is one of those situations where the OS is re-launching whatever files you had previously open. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On 10/11/12 11:46 AM, "Guglielmo Braguglia" wrote: >I have the problem ... > >I'm using one Peter plugin, lcStackBrowser

Re: [ANN] MobGUI update

2012-10-11 Thread Guglielmo Braguglia
Worked for me ! Be sure to don't include trailing blanks or CR ... Guglielmo On 11.10.2012 20:38, Matthias Rebbe wrote: Hi, was anyone successful in downloading the library? I always get the message that my key was not recognized. Regards, Matthias -- Matthias Rebbe matthias (at) rebbe.t

Re: Mountain Lion File Versioning

2012-10-11 Thread Guglielmo Braguglia
I have the problem ... I'm using one Peter plugin, lcStackBrowser, which currentlysaves something inside itself ... Today, trying on a MacBook running Mountain Lion 10.8.2, I have had this strange behavior ... ... I opened LiveCode on this machine, on which I had used it a few days ago, an

Re: [ANN] MobGUI update

2012-10-11 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Hi, was anyone successful in downloading the library? I always get the message that my key was not recognized. Regards, Matthias -- Matthias Rebbe matthias (at) rebbe.tk Tel +49.5741.31 Tel +49.160.5504462 -- "Life is too short for boring code" Am 11.10.2012 um 17:46 schrieb John C

Re: Strict Compile Mode

2012-10-11 Thread Guglielmo Braguglia
Hi Pete, this happen very often also to me ... ... I don't know, but ... if you are debugging your code stepping-by-stepping and you stop the execution, some time LiveCode create this problem. The only solution is to save the stack, close LiveCode (/is not sufficient to close the stack/) and

Re: Mountain Lion File Versioning

2012-10-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
On Oct 11, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Klaus on-rev wrote: > Hi Pete, > > Am 11.10.2012 um 19:21 schrieb Peter Haworth : > >> I'm not 100% clear on how the Mountain Lion file versioning of files works > > noone really is! :-D > >> but does it have any effect on saving a stack by script? > > No, Livec

Re: Strict Compile Mode

2012-10-11 Thread Mark Wieder
Pete- Thursday, October 11, 2012, 10:18:25 AM, you wrote: > I checked all my the local commands in the script and they are all within > handlers except for one and it does not refer to the variable named in the > error message. There are no global definitions in the script. Check to see if ther

Re: Mountain Lion File Versioning

2012-10-11 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Pete, Am 11.10.2012 um 19:21 schrieb Peter Haworth : > I'm not 100% clear on how the Mountain Lion file versioning of files works noone really is! :-D > but does it have any effect on saving a stack by script? No, Livecode does not support this "feature". > Pete > lcSQL Software

Mountain Lion File Versioning

2012-10-11 Thread Peter Haworth
I'm not 100% clear on how the Mountain Lion file versioning of files works but does it have any effect on saving a stack by script? Pete lcSQL Software ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this ur

Strict Compile Mode

2012-10-11 Thread Peter Haworth
Finished converting all the scripts in a stack to include local variable definitions and got clean compiles of everything a couple of days ago. Today, I made some changes to a handler that did not involve any new variables. When I compiled, I got the error message "local: name shadows another var

Re: [OT] Where ill conceived copyright laws can lead

2012-10-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
I have to say, it's better than it was. I used to buy LP's 2 and 3 times because I would wear them out, and then there was a limit on how many I could have because they took up space. The quality of tape, LP's and CD's (yes CD's they scratch and do not have an indefinite shelf life) is limited b

Re: Help! PlayCommand Agent X

2012-10-11 Thread René Micout
Le 11 oct. 2012 à 17:15, Jonathan Adams a écrit : >> The sunnYmidie interface looks a LOT more complicated than the interface of >> shakobox (which uses PlayCommand Agent X). I'm basically looking for >> something that will mimic the old Hypercard "play" command, which wanted an >> instrumen

Re: [ANN] MobGUI update

2012-10-11 Thread Mike Kerner
Thanks, John! -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." ___ use-livecode

[ANN] MobGUI update

2012-10-11 Thread John Craig
With recent additions and improvements to LC, custom controls to support all resolutions is looking promising. I've also been looking at content scaling and dynamic image resolution. Anyone who's purchased MobGUI can download the morph library in it's current state at http://mobgui.com/morph.ph

Re: 2 errors uploading to MACOS Store

2012-10-11 Thread Andrew Henshaw
Too late now, but one more thought! Dont forget to take all the languages you dont support out of the resources folder in the app package. If you don't, the app store will say your app is available in all sorts of languages and it doesnt take long before you start getting emails from users w

Re: Help! PlayCommand Agent X

2012-10-11 Thread Jonathan Adams
> The sunnYmidie interface looks a LOT more complicated than the interface of > shakobox (which uses PlayCommand Agent X). I'm basically looking for > something that will mimic the old Hypercard "play" command, which wanted an > instrument, a tempo, and a note or list of notes. Unless I'm misr

Re: Speed of visual effect under iOS

2012-10-11 Thread Chris Sheffield
Matthias, Are you running on an iPad 3 by chance? I'm not sure there's really much you can do. I've run into this same problem. If it's iPad 3, the LC engine has to work extra hard to update the screen, and that's what's causing the delay. It's my understanding that LiveCode does not yet take

Re: 2 errors uploading to MACOS Store

2012-10-11 Thread paolo mazza
THANK YOU ALL !!! At the end, replacing the ics file and the rev browser.bundle I was able to upload my app. I had a look at the "RB Package Maker Studio" and it realized it is a very interesting product. Thank you for your advice. All the best Paolo Ciao Guglielmo, dopo aver frequentato per molti

Speed of visual effect under iOS

2012-10-11 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Hi, i am using visual effects when going from one card to an other. e.g. lock screen for visual effects go card "settings" unlock screen with visual effect push up very fast Without using visual effects the performance is good. But with using visual effects there is a delay of 1 to 2 seconds be

Re: iOS: Internet connection available?

2012-10-11 Thread Chris Sheffield
Unfortunately I realized this solution won't work. The device could be connected to a wireless network but not necessarily have Internet access. So back to the drawing board... On Oct 10, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote: > I did just read through that. > > Unfortunately, it doesn't s

Re: iOS: Internet connection available?

2012-10-11 Thread Chris Sheffield
Good advice. Thanks, Scott. On Oct 10, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > As a follow up to Colin's comment, if you decide to check Internet > availability using the default behavior of your app and you have a server > or host that you're relying on, use that server for the test. Folks will

Re: iOS simulator won't work

2012-10-11 Thread Guglielmo Braguglia
Hi Lars, unfortunately NOT ... *nothing is automatically resized* ... you have to "do everything by hand" (... adjusting the stack size, the control size, changing the images, etc, etc) ... :) Guglielmo On 11.10.2012 14:30, Lars Brehmer wrote: Thanks a million to Colin (again) and Guglielmo

re: iOS simulator won't work

2012-10-11 Thread Lars Brehmer
Thanks a million to Colin (again) and Guglielmo! I knew I was overlooking something simple, and sure enough the simulator now works thanks to replacing Xcode 4.5 with xCode 4.4.1 So it works, but it is of slightly limited use to me (unless I am overlooking something obvious again.) I guess tha

Re: 2 errors uploading to MACOS Store

2012-10-11 Thread Guglielmo Braguglia
Ciao Paolo, la cosa più semplice, fino a quando RunRev non fornirà un tool adatto è utilizzare "RB Package Maker Studio" che ti risolve i problemi di firma, di sandboxing, di packaging, ecc. ecc. Guarda qui : http://www.bluecolin.com/rbpms/index.html the easiest thing, until RunRev not provi

Re: 2 errors uploading to MACOS Store

2012-10-11 Thread Andrew Henshaw
There is an app called appwrapper which has a 30 day trial, this will automatically do all the signing for the store and bundle in the 1024 icon for you. Its a good little app and can save a lot of time. As for revbrowser, you need to sign it as you did the main package. I keep a folder now

Re: 2 errors uploading to MACOS Store

2012-10-11 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Colin, Am 11.10.2012 um 13:05 schrieb Colin Holgate : > It's done that way so that Retina screens automatically use the double res > version if it's there. yes, exactly! And very bad naming :-D > On Oct 11, 2012, at 6:48 AM, Klaus on-rev wrote: >>> Well, this is actually the 1024*1024 pi

Re: 2 errors uploading to MACOS Store

2012-10-11 Thread Colin Holgate
It's done that way so that Retina screens automatically use the double res version if it's there. On Oct 11, 2012, at 6:48 AM, Klaus on-rev wrote: > > >Well, this is actually the 1024*1024 pixel icon, that you also need to > >supply nowadays! > I would call this VERY BAD naming ;-)

Re: 2 errors uploading to MACOS Store

2012-10-11 Thread Klaus on-rev
Buongiorno Paolo, Am 11.10.2012 um 12:43 schrieb paolo mazza : > Hi all, > I developed an app using LiveCode 5.5.2 and SnowLeopard with Xcode 4.3.2 . > Trying to upload an application to the MACOS store, I got 2 error messages: > > ERROR MESSAGE 1 : > "The application bundle does not contain an

2 errors uploading to MACOS Store

2012-10-11 Thread paolo mazza
Hi all, I developed an app using LiveCode 5.5.2 and SnowLeopard with Xcode 4.3.2 . Trying to upload an application to the MACOS store, I got 2 error messages: ERROR MESSAGE 1 : "The application bundle does not contain an icon in ICNS format, containing both 512x512 and a 512x512@2x image " I