Math question

Hi, I’m seriously math deficient. In my application’s preferences I have a slider that the user can set a value from +5 down to -5, where 0 is the default and the user can then modify that. The result is currently linear but I’m thinking that I want finer control around the zero midpoint but

Re: Cursor changes to a hand in the ide

On 02/25/2016 09:50 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Jim Byrnes wrote: That worked, thank you very much. And just in case you are wondering how it got that way, as you didn't type any commands. My guess is that this property can be set within

Re: Cursor changes to a hand in the ide

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Jim Byrnes wrote: That worked, thank you very much. >> > > And just in case you are wondering how it got that way, as you didn't type any commands. My guess is that this property can be set within the Property Inspector - typically accessed

Re: updating progress to user during long handler

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:56 AM, jameshale wrote: > > So from all this I can see that the messages are being passed, the screen > is > simply not updating. > Which of course is why everyone else responded as they did; it happens. Now test some 'descending' wait after the

Re: Cursor changes to a hand in the ide

Jim Byrnes wrote: > That worked, thank you very much. I must say this is a friendly, > helpful group. This group is awesome! Many years ago when I was first getting my head wrapped around how this engine works, back then it was called MetaCard and Kevin's company was just getting started. I

Re: updating progress to user during long handler

Hi Kay, Actually never thought of that (doh!) Beeps in the updateme handler fire. - so the handler is getting the message Breakpoints in updateme as well as following "send" in main routine show the text appearing in the SPLASH stack. So, the messages are being sent. The updateme handler is being

Re: DataGrid

Never mind, this all covered elsewhere. Brain fart ground zero. On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 4:43 PM, stephen barncard < stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com> wrote: > Is there a function that 'simplify' or 'stupify' the text to look right in > LC? Or do I have to search and replace 'certain' ones to fix

Re: Cursor changes to a hand in the ide

On 02/25/2016 07:25 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Jim Byrnes wrote: > On 02/25/2016 06:35 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> Try this in the Message Box (replacing "YourStack" with your stack's >> name of course): >> >>put the mode of stack "YourStack" && the style of stack "YourStack" >> > >

Re: Cursor changes to a hand in the ide

Jim Byrnes wrote: > On 02/25/2016 06:35 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> Try this in the Message Box (replacing "YourStack" with your stack's >> name of course): >> >>put the mode of stack "YourStack" && the style of stack "YourStack" >> > > This results in: 2 toplevel Hunch confirmed: if you

Re: Cursor changes to a hand in the ide

On 02/25/2016 06:35 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Jim Byrnes wrote: > On 02/25/2016 04:50 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> Try this in the Message Box: >> >>put the name of this stack && the mode of this stack >> > > Doing that results in: stack "revMenubar" 2 This is my bad. I just

DataGrid

On Thursday, February 25, 2016, Terence Heaford > wrote: > > > On 25 Feb 2016, at 14:30, Trevor DeVore > wrote: > > > > I don't think this is the case. Widgets provide (or at least will >

Re: DataGrid

Ah, one more thing...I'm sure we've been here before on this forum but I've been away from LC for a while. The 'unicode crapola' issue seems to show up in text files imported from Filemaker. These text files look fine in Textmate, but I always see this distortion when imported into a livecode

Re: DataGrid

Hi Stephen, Stephen Barncard-4 wrote > Thanks guys. > > Both Scott Rossi's solution and Bernd's were really well done. > > In the end I chose modTableField which does everything I want... (and was > about to go through the pain of creating...) > This thing is FAST and really well designed.

Re: Cursor changes to a hand in the ide

Jim Byrnes wrote: > On 02/25/2016 04:50 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> Try this in the Message Box: >> >>put the name of this stack && the mode of this stack >> > > Doing that results in: stack "revMenubar" 2 Hmmm...if your stack was toplevel then revMenubar wouldn't be "this stack",

Re: DataGrid

On Thursday, February 25, 2016, Terence Heaford wrote: > > > On 25 Feb 2016, at 14:30, Trevor DeVore > wrote: > > > > The number of rows shouldn't affect the scrolling speed. The DataGrid > > doesn't create any more rows based on

Re: Cursor changes to a hand in the ide

On 02/25/2016 04:50 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Jim Byrnes wrote: Here ctrl-tab toggles the tool palette. I tried a number of modifier keys + another key combinations with no effect. To me it looks like I am stuck in run mode. I can drag a control off of the palette and drop it on the stack,

Re: Cursor changes to a hand in the ide

On 02/25/2016 02:42 PM, Jim Byrnes wrote: The other environments I have used had a control that was essentially a box with a border around it. At the left end of the top border you could embed a label in the border itself. You could then drop other controls inside the box. It just called

Re: Players in HTML5 - ETA for Full Functionality?

Two qualifications: I haven't followed this thread closely, and I haven't played a great deal with the HTML5 build. That said, does an HTML5 standalone have the ability to interact with the HTML of the surrounding page? If yes, it would seem to be relatively straightforward to do what most HTML

Re: DataGrid

For experimenting datagrid things, you can also have a look to our datagrid helper plugin: http://www.aslugontheroad.com/ourproducts/2-what-is-dgh A new version fully compatible with LC 8 will be available soon. Best Regards, On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 7:46 PM, Scott Rossi

Re: Cursor changes to a hand in the ide

Jim Byrnes wrote: Here ctrl-tab toggles the tool palette. I tried a number of modifier keys + another key combinations with no effect. To me it looks like I am stuck in run mode. I can drag a control off of the palette and drop it on the stack, but it just disappears. Hmm...I wonder if

Re: Cursor changes to a hand in the ide

On 02/25/2016 03:53 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: On 02/25/2016 12:44 PM, Jim Byrnes wrote: On 02/25/2016 11:16 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Jim Byrnes wrote: > At the point the problem occurred I hadn't written a line of code. > I had dropped a label control on the card and expanded it's size. >

Re: DataGrid (Documentation)

On 2/25/2016 4:40 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Agreed. Do you know if there's an enhancement request filed for that? Thank you Richard. I entered enhancement request #17022 (http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17022) for this. ___

Re: Unable to select transparent buttons

I did report that... I guessed I missed the confirmation notification from the quality center.. it was confirmed... I was checking here to see if anyone else had that issue.. Thanks for the tip "shift click"...fantastic... it works.. I'm deep into developing a new app and trying to stick to

Re: Cursor changes to a hand in the ide

Bug report #17021 filed. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: Cursor changes to a hand in the ide

On 02/25/2016 03:14 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Jim Byrnes wrote: > I just tried to recreate what happened,but could not get it to happen > again. So I guess it is not reproducible. > > I did restore the file from trash and can send it to you if you think > that it would be helpful. I just

Re: Cursor changes to a hand in the ide

On 02/25/2016 12:44 PM, Jim Byrnes wrote: On 02/25/2016 11:16 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Jim Byrnes wrote: > At the point the problem occurred I hadn't written a line of code. > I had dropped a label control on the card and expanded it's size. > Then I dropped 2 radio buttons inside the

Re: Unable to select transparent buttons

Hi Brahma, isn't that the same bug you reported here? http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17015 When you click on a button that you can not select click on the button with the shift-key down. This unselects the image and then you can click on the transparent (or opaque) button and it

Re: DataGrid (Documentation)

Paul Dupuis wrote: My point was it has been a long and glaring inconsistency in LiveCode where the dataGrid is the ONLY LiveCode "thing" with no documentation in LiveCode! Agreed. Do you know if there's an enhancement request filed for that? Anyone in the community with some time to space

Re: Players in HTML5 - ETA for Full Functionality?

Matt Maier wrote: > Thanks for that overview Richard, it helped me! If you read that post to the end you should get a medal. :) More long-winded than even my user group presentations. Glad it was useful. > Given option (b), will the entire livecode engine have to run > client-side, or will

Re: Cursor changes to a hand in the ide

Jim Byrnes wrote: > I just tried to recreate what happened,but could not get it to happen > again. So I guess it is not reproducible. > > I did restore the file from trash and can send it to you if you think > that it would be helpful. I just transferred the file to my laptop > which is also

Re: Players in HTML5 - ETA for Full Functionality?

Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: > We *can* fulfill our media delivery "vision" on LC/Mobile and we > can build a web UI using Rev igniter... so I'll be content to develop > in that space for now. A web UI is just text - HTML and CSS. LiveCode is uncommonly good for processing text.

Re: Cursor changes to a hand in the ide

On 02/25/2016 11:16 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Jim Byrnes wrote: > At the point the problem occurred I hadn't written a line of code. > I had dropped a label control on the card and expanded it's size. > Then I dropped 2 radio buttons inside the boundaries of the of the > label. I was

Re: Content Property in Inspector for Fields

Ok found it: "styled-text" No way to expand this as in older inspectors... right? On February 25, 2016 at 10:29:51 AM, Colin Holgate (colinholg...@gmail.com) wrote: Did you mean the field contents? It’s immediately under the name in the inspector.

Re: Unable to select transparent buttons

I know you mentioned LC8 specifically. I just want to say that in 6.7 there is no issue selecting a button straightway. Craig Newman -Original Message- From: Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami To: How LiveCode Sent: Thu, Feb 25, 2016 3:25 pm

Re: Content Property in Inspector for Fields

Did you mean the field contents? It’s immediately under the name in the inspector. > On Feb 25, 2016, at 3:27 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami > wrote: > > LC8 DP 15 > > Can anyone show me where the content field is in the property inspector for a > field? I can't find it.

Content Property in Inspector for Fields

LC8 DP 15 Can anyone show me where the content field is in the property inspector for a field? I can't find it. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription

Unable to select transparent buttons

Can anyone else confirm LC8 dp15 1) make card 2) add background graphic image, leave some area of the card uncovered.. move the image down a bit... 3) place several buttons on top of the imate 4) ... set opacity for all buttons to false 5) Now.. try to use the pointer tool to select one of

Re: beggars be choosers

Hi Mick, Maybe this will answer your question: http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ As you can see on that page, Community Editions start at 6.0.1. Is that what you were asking for? Thanks - Phil Davis On 2/25/16 5:05 AM, Mick Collins wrote: I’m one of those who can’t afford anything

Re: Hi-Res Images at Natural Size?

  On February 25, 2016 at 8:36:47 AM, Scott Rossi (sc...@tactilemedia.com(mailto:sc...@tactilemedia.com)) wrote: > i.e. In other words, the engine will use as many device pixels as it has > to render things (images are scaled from the original source size direct > to the screen - and not via

Re: Players in HTML5 - ETA for Full Functionality?

On February 25, 2016 at 9:02:29 AM, Richard Wrote: > I don't know if any of this rambling post is helpful, but my aim here is > just to point out the very difficult task being undertaken here. And while > we can expect Peter's excellent work to continue to make big strides, I > think it may be

Re: Players in HTML5 - ETA for Full Functionality?

That was too abstract and hypothetical for me to be sure I followed correctly. In the approach the Livecode team is taking now, is it accurate to say that the html5 standalone bundles up the livecode engine with any app-specific objects/scripts and pushes the whole thing into the client browser,

Re: Players in HTML5 - ETA for Full Functionality?

When it comes down to it, there is a direct parallel between wanting to use native html5 elements in a LiveCode html5 app and wanting to use native (system provided) controls on mobile. There are still a couple of technical hurdles to overcome to make this possible in the html5 port, but for

Re: Players in HTML5 - ETA for Full Functionality?

I think most modern web apps you see run ui locally (client side) and then use an http-based server API to manage the 'cloud' side. The advantage of this approach is that you end up with a good separation between client and server, meaning the client can be implemented on any platform (and

Re: Players in HTML5 - ETA for Full Functionality?

Thanks for that overview Richard, it helped me! Given option (b), will the entire livecode engine have to run client-side, or will there be a way to let the engine run on a server? On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami

Re: DataGrid (Documentation)

On 2/25/2016 11:44 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > I did a quick search on Google for "livecode data grid lessons", and > found this as the first hit: > Richard helps make my earlier point about documentation. Yes, there are lessons on the LiveCode site and

Re: DataGrid

For those with simple needs, you might try: http://tactilemedia.com/blog/2015/11/07/table-lab/ Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 2/25/16, 9:13 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Richard Gaskin"

Re: Hi-Res Images at Natural Size?

Where is this setting Colin? Not seeing any option in v8.2 simulator, so is it only in the most recent version? Thanks & Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 2/25/16, 4:20 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Colin Holgate"

Re: Hi-Res Images at Natural Size?

I think Colin means the system accessibility zoom feature (which was what I was using). It's on the accessibility tab of the system settings. Mark Sent from my iPhone > On 25 Feb 2016, at 18:23, Scott Rossi wrote: > > Where is this setting Colin? Not seeing any

Re: Players in HTML5 - ETA for Full Functionality?

Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: > So if we can run Landstat Satellites and entire Universities > (vienna), I humbly submit that it's time to realize "you did it" when > it comes to data management...and to put media delivery at the > forefront of the agenda not at the end of the agenda. > >

Re: DataGrid

Peter Haworth wrote: > Richard Gaskin wrote: >> Now that we have the tabAlign property we can use LC's native field >> object for a wide range of cases we used to have to use the DG for. > > modTableField is a great alternative to a DG table. Don't have the > link to hand but hopefully Bernd

Re: DataGrid

Clarence P Martin wrote: > Richard, > Thanks, I will. As I've discussed with you before, I have a tendency > to look, maybe, a little too deeply into some things. I think that's an occupation hazard of software development. :) As much as we're all working towards the ideal of having as much

Re: DataGrid

Thanks to Bernd for this link: http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/modTableField/ Thierry -- Thierry Douez - http://sunny-tdz.com sunnYrex - sunnYtext2speech - sunnYperl - sunnYmidi - sunnYmage ___

Re: DataGrid (Documentation)

Mike Kerner wrote: > Over in the Forums, the report is that DG will start to be worked on > for LC8 on or about 3/15. "The Forums" is a big place - for anyone interested in the discussion I believe Mike's referring to this thread: The work

Re: DataGrid

modTableField is a great alternative to a DG table. Don't have the link to hand but hopefully Bernd will chime in. On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 9:13 AM Richard Gaskin wrote: > stephen barncard wrote: > > > ...back to a tabbed scrolling field > > No harm in that. The

Re: Cursor changes to a hand in the ide

Jim Byrnes wrote: > At the point the problem occurred I hadn't written a line of code. > I had dropped a label control on the card and expanded it's size. > Then I dropped 2 radio buttons inside the boundaries of the of the > label. I was renaming them and changing the label text when the >

Re: DataGrid

stephen barncard wrote: ...back to a tabbed scrolling field No harm in that. The DG was written to support both list and form row types only because at the time the LC field object didn't allow independent column alignment, needed for financial apps and others where text may be

Re: DataGrid

Terence Heaford wrote: Do you believe that the performance of the LiveCode scripting engine can be improved to achieve a full screen smooth scrolling DataGrid similar to NSTableView in Xcode/Objective-C? Performance enhancements in the engine will likely benefit the DataGrid as much as

RE: DataGrid

Richard, Thanks, I will. As I've discussed with you before, I have a tendency to look, maybe, a little too deeply into some things. I guess, that's part of my nature. I was never a person, in school, to accept shortcuts, just on face value. I'll see you next week. Sincerely, Clarence Martin

Re: DataGrid (Documentation)

Guys, Over in the Forums, the report is that DG will start to be worked on for LC8 on or about 3/15. On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Clarence P Martin wrote: > Thanks for the information, I appreciate it. > > Sincerely, > > Clarence Martin > Email: chi...@themartinz.com

Re: DataGrid (Documentation)

Mike Kerner wrote: It's not ready for 8 yet, AFAIK. In past discussions, we were told it would be a late conversion because it is so complex (you should read through the code that drives it). Anyway, there is a datagrid manual, but it is for LC7 and below. As you noted, the DG hasn't been

Re: DataGrid

Trevor DeVore wrote: I have seen the tutorials on the LiveCode site and I am still trying to completely understand the tool. If the author of this tool reads this list, I am hoping for some help and insight on using this tool. I am the original author of the DataGrid. I don't provide any

Release 6.7.9 / 7.1.2

Dear List Members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 6.7.9 Stable and 7.1.2 Stable. By "Stable", we mean that no reported regressions have been introduced in 6.7.9 / 7.1.2, compared to the previous Stable release. Both 6.7.9 / 7.1.2 are a promotion of 6.7.9 RC-3 / 7.1.2 RC-3,

Re: DataGrid

Terry, Clarence, You really should mess with the DG code, if you're interested. Even though it's 8900 lines, it's very readable and easy to work on. When I've proposed code changes, LC (and Trevor) have been fast to evaluate them and incorporate them. At least in 6.x, even with what I think are

Re: beggars be choosers

Mick Collins wrote: > I’m wondering whether there will be a version 6._ or 7._ which will > come out before the first sanctified version of 8 and when the next > version (of 6, 7, and/or 8) is expected to come out. I don't know, but if so I'd be very surprised if there was more than just one

RE: DataGrid (Documentation)

Thanks for the information, I appreciate it. Sincerely, Clarence Martin Email: chi...@themartinz.com Cell: 626 6965561 -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Mike Kerner Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 8:11 AM To: How to use

RE: DataGrid

Trevor, Thanks for your reply. I will spend more time analyzing the code in the DataGrid. Sincerely, Clarence Martin Email: chi...@themartinz.com Cell: 626 6965561 -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Trevor DeVore Sent:

Re: DataGrid (Documentation)

It's not ready for 8 yet, AFAIK. In past discussions, we were told it would be a late conversion because it is so complex (you should read through the code that drives it). Anyway, there is a datagrid manual, but it is for LC7 and below. It is 230 pages and is available at LC's website. If you

Re: DataGrid (Documentation)

I just looked at LC8dp15 and still no documentation on the Datagrid. At the very least, to support this important tool, if you do not include all the APIs in the Dictionary OR if the Datagrid is not going to be converted to a Widget with its companion documentation any time soon, PLEASE at least

Re: DataGrid

> On 25 Feb 2016, at 14:30, Trevor DeVore wrote: > > I don't think this is the case. Widgets provide (or at least will provide) > an excellent platform for building out a custom control like a Widget. I am not sure precisely how Livecode builder works in comparison

Re: DataGrid

> On 25 Feb 2016, at 14:30, Trevor DeVore wrote: > > The number of rows shouldn't affect the scrolling speed. The DataGrid > doesn't create any more rows based on the amount of data. It only generates > enough controls to view the visible rows (+ a handful of others).

Re: Cursor changes to a hand in the ide

On 02/25/2016 05:59 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: Welome Jim, What happens if you forget your first test stack and start a fresh. Start LiveCode, create a New Stack. Have you got the Pointer Tool back? Can you drag buttons and fields onto your new stack now? Yes, I deleted the original stack and

Re: DataGrid

Hi everyone, I'm going to include responses to a number of thread comments in this response. On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Clarence P Martin wrote: > a very immersive user and I need to know how things work. This allows me > to get the most out of anything that I

beggars be choosers

I’m one of those who can’t afford anything more than the community version of LC (for reasons of money, testing / experiment time). I’m wondering whether there will be a version 6._ or 7._ which will come out before the first sanctified version of 8 and when the next version (of 6, 7, and/or 8)

Re: Hi-Res Images at Natural Size?

Small tip on the zooming your desktop image: The zooming feature has an option to do smoothing, which I imagine defaults to on. You want to turn that off if you are using zooming as a debug technique. With it turned off, zoom becomes a very useful way to analyze antialiasing issues. > On Feb

Re: Hi-Res Images at Natural Size?

On 2016-02-25 11:58, Scott Rossi wrote: Thanks for the explanation Mark. The discrepancy in resolution is intensified in the simulator when a bitmap is displayed near text content, which remains sharp at any size. So when one sets the simulator to 100% scale and sees perfectly rendered 2cm

Re: Cursor changes to a hand in the ide

Welome Jim, What happens if you forget your first test stack and start a fresh. Start LiveCode, create a New Stack. Have you got the Pointer Tool back? Can you drag buttons and fields onto your new stack now? If you can reproduce your first problem it would be worth submitting a bug report with

Re: updating progress to user during long handler

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 9:24 PM, jameshale wrote: > > Tried it but no change. > When you say you added some Beeps, was this to the mainstack handler or the updateme handler in the splash stack? If it wasn't in the updateme what happens if you move the beep to there? If

Re: Hi-Res Images at Natural Size?

Thanks for the explanation Mark. The discrepancy in resolution is intensified in the simulator when a bitmap is displayed near text content, which remains sharp at any size. So when one sets the simulator to 100% scale and sees perfectly rendered 2cm text characters drawn alongside a fuzzy

Re: Free BasicClock desktop clock for OSX

Enhancement Request: 17017 On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 6:11 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > On 16/02/2016 03:23, Kay C Lan wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 7:47 PM, Peter TB Brett > > >> wrote: >> >> >>> Is your clock open source? At the moment

Re: DataGrid

> On 25 Feb 2016, at 09:28, stephen barncard > wrote: > > I know how it's made and who made it. I just didn't think 350 rows x 12 > columns would be 'too big'and I thought I remembered it being faster a > few versions ago. I think there is also a

Re: DataGrid

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 12:27 AM, Terence Heaford wrote: > For smallish tables it works adequately but as the number of rows and > columns increases the performance diminishes I know how it's made and who made it. I just didn't think 350 rows x 12 columns would be 'too

Re: Hi-Res Images at Natural Size?

On 2016-02-25 02:54, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: This has been my experience here. Neither my 15.4" 2880 X1800 Macbook Pro nor the LG Ultrawide 34Inch 3440 X 1440 displays can match the sharpness of the same image on my iPhone 6+.  The pixel density of the iPhone 6+ is 401ppi. The pixel

Re: leap to future

On 2016-02-25 02:40, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: We were told in no uncertain terms, "not gonna happen." It is important to understand that LiveCode Community and LiveCode Indy are distinct things. Whilst Community offers a proper subset of functionality to Indy at the moment that is

Re: DataGrid

> On 24 Feb 2016, at 22:13, stephen barncard > wrote: > > But my question is ... why is it so S L O W ?? I have asked this question a number of times and don’t believe I ever got a full answer. I think the why is easy. Its because it is built using multiple

Re: leap to future

On 2016-02-24 22:58, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: But it is my understanding that we can deploy HTML5 from community "for free" assuming that we do not need to lock up the code. You can download the Community version of LiveCode from our servers at no cost. However, usage of the

Look positive at HTML5 now

Here a constructive post to HTML5. CLUSTER-6: ** Six HTML5 standalones running smoothly together in one window. ** hh.on-rev.com/html5/ (the cyan button "CLUSTER" is at bottom). I don't hesitate at all to criticize if appropriate, but much the same I don't hesitate to praise: Have fun and try