Re: Revenue and the Open Source edition

> On 4 May 2016, at 3:12 PM, Peter W A Wood wrote: > > I think that you have missed out one way to contribute that would be very > valuable to both the community and LiveCode. That is writing automatically > runnable tests. I did miss that! > There is an automated

Re: Revenue and the Open Source edition

Monte I think that you have missed out one way to contribute that would be very valuable to both the community and LiveCode. That is writing automatically runnable tests. There is an automated test suite but it is kept under lock and key by LiveCode so that community members cannot contribute

Re: Revenue and the Open Source edition

> On 4 May 2016, at 2:20 PM, JB wrote: > And so it is obvious everyone cannot be > involved in programming the open source > version for many different reasons. That > leaves people little chance to participate > by adding code. Use it, point out bugs > and pay money.

Re: Revenue and the Open Source edition

The fact that is so much discussion about the licenses shows there is a problem. LiveCode's pricing has been complex as long as I can remember. Most software you pay once, it's yours, you get free updates, and if there is a major upgrade, you pay for upgrade. Big, terrible companies like Adobe are

Re: Revenue and the Open Source edition

I think the community version would have more community involvement if they gave people more externals to show them how to create externals. I get the feeling tje mothership does not want community advancement externals. And so it is obvious everyone cannot be involved in programming the open

Re: Revenue and the Open Source edition

I goes one of the central issue of a community version.. is.. community!? How to make people feel member of the community? get them involved? One way of doing that is to let people buy something maybe not much, but something. That was the idea of the pay once upgrade when you feel which was

Re: drawing tools in LC 8

On 5/3/16, 11:01 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Devin Asay" wrote: >I have the same question as Richard—are you talking about drawing (graphics) >tools or painting (image) tools? I think you’re referring to paint tools.

Re: Doing Maths in Hex

On 05/03/2016 11:53 AM, [-hh] wrote: Bonjour Thierry, Perfect. But now, of course, the question arises, how to do that in base 42 ;-) return (6 * 8) -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

Re: Doing Maths in Hex

Don't do that. You'll break the universe. Bob S On May 3, 2016, at 11:53 , [-hh] > wrote: Bonjour Thierry, Perfect. But now, of course, the question arises, how to do that in base 42 ;-) Hermann ___

Re: Clearing local variables

I do the exact same thing Peter. I learned this when I was developing for a dBase accounting application. All their control structures and terminations were commented quite extensively, and I was able to learn dBase and their code specifically because they did. Bob S On Apr 30, 2016, at

Re: LiveCode Externals etc (was Re: Rust externals [was: Being a developer after 40])

Ben Rubinstein wrote: > ...is there anyway an explanation of the differences and > relationships between: > > - widgets Custom controls written in LiveCode Builder with advanced rendering and packaging. > - libraries Can be written in either LiveCode Script or LiveCode Builder.

Re: Error, but no error?

Mark, I just tried your suggestion and I got the same empty "Errors" dialog, and the execution did not halt at all, same as before. What does this mean? -Dan > Dan, > > There is a good chance that the problem is in the IDE. Put true into > gRevDevelopment, turn on the Script Debug Mode

Re: Error, but no error?

Dan, There is a good chance that the problem is in the IDE. Put true into gRevDevelopment, turn on the Script Debug Mode (Development menu) and try again. Does the debug window appear and where does the execution halt? Kind regards, Mark Schonewille http://economy-x-talk.com

Re: LiveCode Externals etc (was Re: Rust externals [was: Being a developer after 40])

To be precise: LiveCode 2.7.x or later (any edition should do) Visual C++ 2005 – any edition including Express (if you want to build externals on Windows) XCode 2.4.x (if want to build externals on Mac OS X) (At least it exists now - when I last posted to this list in despair (09/10/2015

Error, but no error?

Greetings! I am having a problem tracking down a bug. But the real problem is that the LC's error dialog is showing empty. I put this in my stack script: on errorDialog pExecutionError, pParseError answer pExecutionError & pParseError end errorDialog It does fire, but both pExecutionError

Re: drawing tools in LC 8

> On May 3, 2016, at 11:51 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami > wrote: > > I’m looking forward to a small coloring/drawing module for our big app. > Little hacking today: > > Today I tried clicking on the pen tool and drawing.. It auto created an > object that takes up the

Re: Doing Maths in Hex

Bonjour Thierry, Perfect. But now, of course, the question arises, how to do that in base 42 ;-) Hermann Thierry Douez wrote > .. and before the next question will arise: > ​ > > put addHexy( "20F", "4CD", "10", "3AB") > > function addHexy >local T >repeat with i = 1 to paramCount() >

Re: drawing tools in LC 8

Do you want drawing tools or painting tools? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com

Re: drawing tools in LC 8

Quite honestly I don't think they have been touched for donkey's ages, and they are not much use as they are at present. Richmond. On 3.05.2016 20:51, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: I’m looking forward to a small coloring/drawing module for our big app. Little hacking today: Today I

drawing tools in LC 8

I’m looking forward to a small coloring/drawing module for our big app. Little hacking today: Today I tried clicking on the pen tool and drawing.. It auto created an object that takes up the entire card and not just where I drew. So I created an image object first, then tried the tools. Pen

Re: Doing Maths in Hex

> > and with a bit of factoring... > > > > put addHex( "20F", "4CD") > > > > > > function addHex v1, v2 > > local d1, d2 > > put baseConvert( v1,16,10) into d1 > > put baseConvert( v2,16,10) into d2 > > return baseconvert( d1 + d2, 10, 16) > > end addHex > > > > Thierry > > Well done,

Re: Doing Maths in Hex

> On May 3, 2016, at 11:13 AM, Thierry Douez wrote: > > and with a bit of factoring... > > put addHex( "20F", "4CD") > > > function addHex v1, v2 > local d1, d2 > put baseConvert( v1,16,10) into d1 > put baseConvert( v2,16,10) into d2 > return baseconvert( d1

Re: Doing Maths in Hex

and with a bit of factoring... put addHex( "20F", "4CD") function addHex v1, v2 local d1, d2 put baseConvert( v1,16,10) into d1 put baseConvert( v2,16,10) into d2 return baseconvert( d1 + d2, 10, 16) end addHex Thierry 2016-05-03 18:13 GMT+02:00 Devin Asay

Re: Endless discussion on licensing and pricing

As a paying customer, I can confirm, that we do receive surveys. It might be three or four per year, and the questions might not always be the ones I wish were being asked, but we are being queried. On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > I'd like to

Re: Doing Maths in Hex

> On May 3, 2016, at 9:32 AM, dunbarx wrote: > > Richmond. > > LC cannot add "20F" to "4CD". You need to use "baseConvert". Not onerous at > all, really. put baseConvert(baseConvert("20F",16,10) + baseConvert("4CD",16,10),10,16) devin Devin Asay Office of Digital

Re: Doing Maths in Hex

Richmond. LC cannot add "20F" to "4CD". You need to use "baseConvert". Not onerous at all, really. Craig -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Doing-Maths-in-Hex-tp4704028p4704160.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at

Re: Endless discussion on licensing and pricing

I'd like to remind everyone that there is another aspect to developing in livecode which probably keeps us all engaged, beyond the profit potential: It's damned fun! I doubt I will ever be able to produce a commercially marketable application, and yet I have writted a number of useful

Re: Hexier and Hexier

With a little extra work you could make that work from any base to any base. Bob S > On Apr 30, 2016, at 08:18 , RM wrote: > > That's me, the ultimate Hex-object of 2016. > > However, as it is that time of the month I'm not really feeling Hexxy at all, > so I

Re: Endless discussion on licensing and pricing (was: Standalones on el Capitan?)

On May 2, 2016, at 05:56 , Paul Dupuis > wrote: For every organization delivering a product, that organization has to make the product's cost vs value work for THEM. If they charge too little, they go out of business. If they charge too much,

Re: Doing Maths in Hex

When I did my IP subnet calculator, there were some things that required binary, like determining what part of the IP address was the network address, and other operations required decimal. Of course, that was a unique problem as each octet is a discreet value, and not part of a *total*

Re: Revenue and the Open Source edition

You are correct! I helped fund the open source and never made any complaints about it and am not complaining now. JB > On May 3, 2016, at 5:13 AM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > >> On 3 May 2016, at 10:07 PM, JB wrote: >> >> We paid for the code and we

Re: Revenue and the Open Source edition

> On 3 May 2016, at 10:07 PM, JB wrote: > > We paid for the code and we were given > a link to download the code to be used as > open source code. We did not make any > agreement to fund its development. My point was different people may have contributed to the

Re: Revenue and the Open Source edition

We paid for the code and we were given a link to download the code to be used as open source code. We did not make any agreement to fund its development. JB > On May 2, 2016, at 3:35 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > Aha... Was the Kickstarter for open source or for the

Re: revBrowser, bataBase and LC 7.1.3 on Android 5.1.1 or 6

On 02/05/2016 22:57, Alain Vezina wrote: Hi all, On Android 5.1.1 and 6 the revBrowser and DataBase librairies don’t work with LC 7.1.3. I use SQLite Anybody else had the same experience? Should I send a bug report? Yes please! Peter -- Dr Peter Brett

Re: Revenue and the Open Source edition

From a purely selfish point of view (what, me, surely not?) I stated I wanted to PAY for something PERMANENT because I develop ONLY for desktop (and possibly HTML%) deployment. This is where we might need to discuss the sort of folowing scenario: 1. Permanent version that deploys standalones

Re: Revenue and the Open Source edition

I am stuck between a rock and a hard place. On one hand i would prefer a pay once use for ever license model. On the other i want a software tool which is maintained and upgraded regularly, even if that means that i have to pay for it. I remember discussions when the old “pay once use that

Re: Revenue and the Open Source edition

On 3.05.2016 00:50, Monte Goulding wrote: One thing that nobody seems to have pointed out is the current price is not $999. As Peter commented (and a number of people seem to have read in a snippy tone unfortunately) the price rises have been and continue to be well telegraphed with the

Re: [OT] Atkinson Interview, Pt 2

On 3.05.2016 05:48, Lynn Fredricks wrote: I like that Atkinson revealed he got the idea for HyperCard while dropping LSD. Thirty years later we're still using a descendant of that idea. Are we experiencing a perpetual flashback? Nah, Flash is something else! Flash is somewhere between PCP

Re: [OT] Atkinson Interview, Pt 2

Aah, maybe that's why I have so much creative block : I don't drop LSD. Maybe they could add LSD tablets to the Commercial version of Livecode as an extra incentive . . . Richmond. On 3.05.2016 00:58, Jim Lambert wrote: I like that Atkinson revealed he got the idea for HyperCard while

Re: Revenue and the Open Source edition

Um: think very closely about "look at Naomi Campbell" :) Richmond. On 2.05.2016 23:16, Peter M. Brigham wrote: Richmond, as soon as I wrote that I just knew it would be a set-up line for you. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com On May 2, 2016, at 4:05 PM, RM wrote: The Scots have