Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.7 RC-1

2017-09-05 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Possibly several steps back might be better than total stagnation. As I have demonstrated by my article in "Hello World" I'm not always averse to backward steps if they serve some purpose. Richmond. On 9/5/17 10:18 pm, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: Well, that would take us a step

Re: TSNet error 6

2017-09-05 Thread Charles Warwick via use-livecode
Hi Jacque, Any of those error codes (6, 7 or 35) are reasonable if you are operating in an area with a really poor connection. When you are operating on a public wifi, it could have a lot to do with how the wifi is configured, as Bob mentioned below.  How these are configured can vary greatl

I just posted an Augmented Earth sample stack on LiveCode share

2017-09-05 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Hello everyone, I just posted a sample version of my app on LC share, AKA rev online. It points to my dev server, so there are no problems with you guys posting test reports. Hopefully this will help you guys with 3D mapping experiments you may have. The sample stack pulls images from open stree

Re: Something is wrong with 8.1.7 RC1

2017-09-05 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 6 Sep 2017, at 8:03 am, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi all. Just tried 8.1.7 RC1 for OS X. My code starts to fail right away. I > have a simple handler called ArrangeMenus, which if not in development mode > removes a couple menu buttons, then bumps the buttons over filling

Re: Selections in Text Editor Revisited

2017-09-05 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 6 Sep 2017, at 9:24 am, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > I think Jacque is right that when dragging bottom up the issue of not all the > text between the drag points being selected manifests itself. Also, I've > noticed somewhere along the way that the indifidual revNewScriptEdi

Selections in Text Editor Revisited

2017-09-05 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I think Jacque is right that when dragging bottom up the issue of not all the text between the drag points being selected manifests itself. Also, I've noticed somewhere along the way that the indifidual revNewScriptEditor windows do not maintain their own insertion/selection properties, and as a

Something is wrong with 8.1.7 RC1

2017-09-05 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Hi all. Just tried 8.1.7 RC1 for OS X. My code starts to fail right away. I have a simple handler called ArrangeMenus, which if not in development mode removes a couple menu buttons, then bumps the buttons over filling in the gaps. In 8.1.6 runs fine. In 8.1.7 in a repeat loop I get object is no

Re: Deploying to Android (Amazon Fire 7)

2017-09-05 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Peter, If you try to install an apk to device using a different way than the Test button, you have to make sure you have "Sign for Development only" in the Android standalone settings. Best Panos On Sep 5, 2017 20:40, "Colin Holgate via use-livecode" < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I d

Re: TSNet error 6

2017-09-05 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Okay, so three of us have been running around for a couple of days trying to find "bad" internet connections. Sometimes we walk to the limits of our router until we barely get a connection, and we get curl error 35. At some coffee shops with a solid connection we get error 6, once error 7. Some

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.7 RC-1

2017-09-05 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 9/5/17 10:21 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: 19420 Calling quit causes Android app to crash on next launch if Android is still retaining the app in RAM For anyone who attended my LC Global presentation, this is the "quit" problem I mentioned. Great news that it is fixed now,

Re: [OT] Hello World

2017-09-05 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > I don't mean to imply the link Richmond posted was malware. I was > responding to the post where Richmond indicated he didn't see what > was wrong (I took that to mean clicking a link in an email) to which > I responded that what was wrong (with clicking links in general) is

Re: [OT] Hello World

2017-09-05 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I don't mean to imply the link Richmond posted was malware. I was responding to the post where Richmond indicated he didn't see what was wrong (I took that to mean clicking a link in an email) to which I responded that what was wrong (with clicking links in general) is that it may seem to be fro

Re: [OT] Hello World

2017-09-05 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Yes, all sorts of things are possible, and perhaps we should all be using Qubes OS. Here I was most interested in learning the specifics Bob reported with the link. -- Richard Gaskin Matthias Rebbe wrote: Am 05.09.2017 um 20:03 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode mailto:use-livecode

Re: Deploying to Android (Amazon Fire 7)

2017-09-05 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
I don’t know the answer to your question, but as far as testing a LiveCode app on Android goes, I would use the Development menu, Test Target, Test, to try it on a connected Android device. For installing an APK I would usually just post it online somewhere, that way I can try it on various dev

Re: Deploying to Android (Amazon Fire 7)

2017-09-05 Thread Peter Reid via use-livecode
Hi Jonathan, Colin & Jacqueline Thanks for the various suggestions. On my Mac, I have installed the Java SDK 8.144 and Android Studio 2.3.3 together with Android File Transfer. In LC 8.1.6 I have set up the reference to the Android SDK (/Users/peter/Library/Android/sdk/). On my Amazon Fie 7

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.7 RC-1

2017-09-05 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Well, that would take us a step (or lots of steps!) back :) The dictionary in LC < 8 is totally different, it is a .livecode stack that displays .xml files (e.g. the dictionary entries). In LC 8+ it uses a browser widget, and all the entries have been re-written to .lcdoc files. This makes it mor

Re: [OT] Hello World

2017-09-05 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
Matthias Rebbe +49 5741 31 ‌wirmachen.software ‌ > Am 05.09.2017 um 20:03 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>: > > The link is direct to a PDF (a format which is not entirely without its risks > I suppose) but isn't

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.7 RC-1

2017-09-05 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Here's a really dangerous, radical thought . . . as the Dictionary DOES WORK for LC 7.1.4 with Linux would it not be possible to port that for LC 9? Richmond. On 9/5/17 9:25 pm, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: Hi all, There are 2 different issues: 1. The dictionary on Linux (and

Re: [OT] Hello World

2017-09-05 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Here is the publisher's domain: https://helloworld.raspberrypi.org/ And teachers right across the world are merrily downloading that PDF without getting their knickers in a twist. Richmond. On 9/5/17 9:03 pm, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Bob Sneidar wrote: >> On Sep 1, 2017, at 12

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.7 RC-1

2017-09-05 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi all, There are 2 different issues: 1. The dictionary on Linux (and the browser widget in general) does not work **in some systems** in LC 8.x. This is not distro-specific, but rather locale-specific, and there is a workaround described in the bug report. 2. The dictionary on Linux (and the br

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.7 RC-1

2017-09-05 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
I guess I need to get a VM configured with Linux to test.I've been trying to help with the dictionary but so far only testing with Mac/Win.One thing I do notice is that it does take a while to load.Switching to the guide and back to API usually has it finish loading.Of cour

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.7 RC-1

2017-09-05 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Warren Samples wrote: > On 09/05/2017 12:06 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: >> The Linux version of LiveCode is STILL NOT loading a dictionary. >> >> [ I see that that problem has been "solved" in LC 9 dp 8 by simply >> inactivating the Dictionary button on Linux. ] > > > I have no

Re: [OT] Hello World

2017-09-05 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: >> On Sep 1, 2017, at 12:16 , Richmond Mathewson wrote: >> Page 71 >> > https://s3-eu-west-1.[LINK_ALTERED_FOR_SAFETY].com/rpi-magazines/issues/full_pdfs/000/000/004/original/HelloWorld03.pdf?1504167546 >> Richmond Mathewson. ... > It wasn't Richmond, it was your full name. A

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.7 RC-1

2017-09-05 Thread Warren Samples via use-livecode
On 09/05/2017 12:06 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: The Linux version of LiveCode is STILL NOT loading a dictionary. [ I see that that problem has been "solved" in LC 9 dp 8 by simply inactivating the Dictionary button on Linux. ] I have no problems with the dictionary in open

Re: Bu**ered by Bug reporter

2017-09-05 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Well, as nobody bothered to tell me how to solve this I spent quite some time p*ssing around with a counter-intuitive thing until I worked out how to do it. Just found that clicking the button 'Dictionary' on the revMenuBar stack in LC 9 dp 8 on Xubuntu 16.04 LTS freezes the whole IDE, and the

Re: Deploying to Android (Amazon Fire 7)

2017-09-05 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
If you don't want to install Android File Transfer you can also use a cloud service like Dropbox to move the apk to the device. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On September 5, 2017 6:14:08 AM Jon

Re: [OT] Hello World

2017-09-05 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
OK, Bob, and all others who find it creepy when I use my full name: I didn't! My FULL NAME is John Richmond Mathewson. The only people who call me 'John' are my family and the children I teach. I have used my second name since 1988 for all professional activities [mainly because I was, at tha

Re: [OT] Hello World

2017-09-05 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
It wasn't Richmond, it was your full name. And I DO know what's wrong because my boss, after many urgings not to click the link, clicked the link, and encrypted all the files on our files server. Sure we had a backup, so we recovered all the files but the ones since the last backup. Bob S >

Re: [OT] Hello World

2017-09-05 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
One of the many reasons I am extremely reluctant to go back to the Over-regulated "Untied" Kingdom. Richmond. On 9/5/17 7:52 pm, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote: Don't talk to strangers, always look before you cross, don't click the link, don't drive down the railway tracks. All these ru

Bu**ered by Bug reporter

2017-09-05 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I updated my version of the Waterfox web-browser on my Mac today and it kindly lost all my passwords. Clicking on "Forgot Password" on http://quality.livecode.com/ is useless as it does NOT allow me to get a new password. Richmond. ___ use-livecode m

RE: [ANN[ Release 8.1.7 RC-1

2017-09-05 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
A re-download/re-install fixed it. Strange... Thanks Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net Phone: 518-636-3998 Ex:11 Cell: 518-796-9332 -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of panagioti

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.7 RC-1

2017-09-05 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Excited by many things. I wonder if snapshot, which was failing on desktop (Mac and Linux at least) has been sorted out? Majorly %^&*($# by this: The Linux version of LiveCode is STILL NOT loading a dictionary. [ I see that that problem has been "solved" in LC 9 dp 8 by simply inactivating th

Re: [OT] Hello World

2017-09-05 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I don't WHAT is wrong . . . I open links on my Mac (2007 iMac running Lion), I open links on my DELL Optiplex 745 (? 2007 ? running Xubuntu 16.04 LTS) and am still here to tell the tale. And "we got used to seeing that signature in all your posts" if you haven't got used to seeing "Richmond"

Re: [OT] Hello World

2017-09-05 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Don't talk to strangers, always look before you cross, don't click the link, don't drive down the railway tracks. All these rules. I feel claustrophobic. Sean Cole *Pi Digital Productions Ltd* 'Don't try to think outside the box. Just remember the truth: There is no box!' 'For then you realise it

Re: Deploying to Android (Amazon Fire 7)

2017-09-05 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
I don’t know for sure if it’s still needed, but here are the steps I wrote about, that were needed back then, to add Kindle Fire to ADB: https://books.google.com/books?id=9lpx4JbMDrQC&pg=PT120&lpg=PT120&dq=colin+holgate+0x1949&source=bl&ots=rPkJGT8NQf&sig=PNo6PCRI1Hfl4d65-UTgRbpAgXg&hl=en&sa=X&ve

Re: Subject: Re: LC and OneSignal

2017-09-05 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
You know of new users who have quit using Livecode because there aren't enough samples? I bet the Livecode people would love that list so they could contact them again. Bob S > On Sep 1, 2017, at 15:10 , Todd Fabacher via use-livecode > wrote: > > If we want to grow our community we need s

Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

2017-09-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
20332 on this bug. Now I've got at least one or two more RD bugs that I'm working on reporting - one is the crash, the other is one that seems to be causing RD to not work at all for me, either. 20333 on the mergAV/remote debug crash I built a little sample app to see if I could further diagnose

Re: [ANN[ Release 8.1.7 RC-1

2017-09-05 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi Ralph, No, it should not, otherwise you would not be able to build device standalones using Xcode 8.3.x on Sierra. BTW I just checked and it is not empty for me (checked on Indy and Business). Maybe a failure during installation? Strange. Could you try to delete and reinstall? Best regards, P

Re: TSNet error 6

2017-09-05 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
That is interesting. Coffe Shops/Public Wifi typically use a proxy server and that may be what is restricting your DNS resolution. And yeah it could definitely be a router issue as well. Sometimes I have to reboot the router at work. No rhyme or reason, it just stops passing traffic and I have t

RE: [ANN[ Release 8.1.7 RC-1

2017-09-05 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Panos, On Mac should the Tools/Runtime/iOS/Device-10_3 folder be empty? Thanks Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net From: livecode-dev [mailto:livecode-dev-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of panagiotis merakos Sent: Tuesday, Septe

Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

2017-09-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Invalid entitlements. That was it. On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 11:49 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I think I had filed one in the past, but I cannot find it now (this is > related to mergDeploy external). So, yes please, if you don't mind, can you >

Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

2017-09-05 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
I think I had filed one in the past, but I cannot find it now (this is related to mergDeploy external). So, yes please, if you don't mind, can you file one? BTW what was the exact error? Best, Panos -- On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>

Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

2017-09-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Yeah, I just discovered that a little while ago. So, is there a bug report? Should I file one? I didn't see one in the list. The only PP bug I see is the one I filed a couple months ago on the other issue. On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 11:19 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode < use-livecode@list

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.7 RC-1

2017-09-05 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
I believe a lot of users will be excited by this release (including myself), since several known long-standing issues are addressed. Just a sample of them: 9992 Export snapshot fails on iOS 16029 AppleScript dictionary seems to be absent 17098 Cursor does not move after hitting TAB when tab is rig

Re: TSNet error 6

2017-09-05 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
If you are referring to the server using an IP address, then DNS is out of the equation, unless tsnet is internally trying to resolve a DNS name, which it might if signed SSL certificates are involved. If that is the case, then yes, it is out of your control, much like my Forms Generator app, wh

Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

2017-09-05 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
If the app never installs on the phone, it is likely because of some provisioning profile-related issue (arghh!). Unfortunately this kind of error msgs are not shown when using the "Test" button. So I suggest you build an iOS standalone and try to install the app on the device using Xcode. This wi

Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

2017-09-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Well, Because if my funky remote debug crashing, yesterday, I just built a new app to see if I can reproduce the crash so I can file a bug report App created Remote debugger selected in inclusions profile selected, ios selected for build, name set Phone set as test target Nets are the same Hit test

RE: [OT] Hello World

2017-09-05 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
I agree. I open links like this on an isolated vanilla VM that I keep just for that purpose. It was a good read. Congrats! Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com

Re: TSNet error 6

2017-09-05 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
What does, "a server being monitored" mean? How do I monitor a server?? Bob S > On Sep 2, 2017, at 13:44 , Jim Lambert via use-livecode > wrote: > > reachabilityChanged ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this

Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

2017-09-05 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
You also have to make sure that both the phone and your machine use he same internet connection Best, Panos -- On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > You also have to set the test target, and make sure your device is > recognized.

Re: [off]macbook model

2017-09-05 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Yeah but the point is that we have to. Apple should include a simple one if they expect people to upgrade. Bob S > On Sep 1, 2017, at 12:48 , Rick Harrison via use-livecode > wrote: > > If you get a new MacBook Pro with Thunderbolt-3 (USB-C) ports > there are a couple of nice docks which wi

Re: [OT] Hello World

2017-09-05 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I never click these links. I can never know if your account was hacked and someone is spamming the list with a drive by. I always advise people to have a little text signature so that people can tell who know you that the email came from you personally. My Dad used to use L/D for Love Dad. I u

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.7 RC-1

2017-09-05 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Exciting. Why am I excited every time there is a new LiveCode release? Because there is always something new to fiddle around with! Lovely! Richmond. On 9/5/17 5:45 pm, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-

[ANN] Release 8.1.7 RC-1

2017-09-05 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-1. Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via the automatic updater. Release Contents LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-1 contains 34 bug fixe

Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

2017-09-05 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
You also have to set the test target, and make sure your device is recognized. Yesterday, for example, the phone I was using to test kept disappearing from the list, so I had to disconnect/reconnect it. I didn't come up with a recipe that would let the team dive in and try to fix it. On Tue, Sep

Re: customPropertyless

2017-09-05 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Thanks Mark and Klaus both! Richmond. On 9/5/17 5:03 pm, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: Hi Richmond, Am 05.09.2017 um 15:58 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode : I have a button called "XXX" and it has 3 customProperties; "AA", "BB" & "CC" and this works very well indeed:

Re: customPropertyless

2017-09-05 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi Richmond, > Am 05.09.2017 um 15:58 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > : > > I have a button called "XXX" and it has 3 customProperties; "AA", "BB" & "CC" > > and this works very well indeed: > > onmouseEnter > > put"AA=" & (theAA ofme) & cr & "BB=" & (theBB ofme) & cr & "CC=" &

Re: customPropertyless

2017-09-05 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-09-05 15:58, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: onmouseEnter putthe customProperties of meintofld "propps" endmouseEnter The 'customProperties' property returns an array... So try: put the keys of (the customProperties of me) into fld "propps" Warmest Regards, Mark. -- M

customPropertyless

2017-09-05 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I have a button called "XXX" and it has 3 customProperties; "AA", "BB" & "CC" and this works very well indeed: onmouseEnter put"AA=" & (theAA ofme) & cr & "BB=" & (theBB ofme) & cr & "CC=" & (theCC ofme) intofld "propps" endmouseEnter But this does NOT: onmouseEnter putthe customPropert

Re: Deploying to Android (Amazon Fire 7)

2017-09-05 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
That last paragraph should say "My Files app" not "Amy Files app" Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 5, 2017, at 7:11 AM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: > > A few more pointers: > > You need to have Android File Transfer installed on your Mac. > > You need to put the android device into developer m

Re: Deploying to Android (Amazon Fire 7)

2017-09-05 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
A few more pointers: You need to have Android File Transfer installed on your Mac. You need to put the android device into developer mode. You can find instructions for this online. When you connect the device to a Mac you need to go into the settings in Android and change the setting for the

Re: Deploying to Android (Amazon Fire 7)

2017-09-05 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Hi Peter, Are you able to produce the android standalone file? I just copy that file to my android device and click on it to install it. I find it much easier than iOS. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 5, 2017, at 4:56 AM, Peter Reid via use-livecode > wrote: > > OK, I've been round the various

Deploying to Android (Amazon Fire 7)

2017-09-05 Thread Peter Reid via use-livecode
OK, I've been round the various circles (Lessons, Forum trails, etc.) but I'm completely confused! On my Mac, I've tried installing Java SDK 8.144, Android Studio 2.3.3 and set up LC 8.1.6 to point at the Android root. However, I can't see how I get to specify an Android device - a previous An

Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

2017-09-05 Thread Terry Judd via use-livecode
Thanks Ali – I’ll probably just ignore it from now on ;) Terry... On 5/09/2017 5:26 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Ali Lloyd via use-livecode" wrote: The date support library I think was used for the calendar widget example - I don't think it comes with the ide. You should be able to u

Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

2017-09-05 Thread Ali Lloyd via use-livecode
The date support library I think was used for the calendar widget example - I don't think it comes with the ide. You should be able to uninstall it using the extension manager, should you wish! On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 at 04:28, Terry Judd via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Bug