Re: Navigator v 6 is out

2018-08-14 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Good that alt works on Windows, because the more I think about it, the more I realize this will be challenging to untangle. I use the optionkey in Navigator for...options (who da thunk it?) all over the place. gc On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 9:09 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode <

Re: stack rect with decorations?

2018-08-14 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
6.0 according to the dictionary. Thanks, Brian On Aug 14, 2018, 11:08 PM -0500, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode , wrote: > Thanks. I had thought I'd tried that and it didn't work, but I tried > again at your prompting and indeed it works well, even as far back as v6.7. > > Do you recall when the

Re: Determine if device is a tablet

2018-08-14 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
J. Landman Gay wrote: > I need to determine whether the current mobile device is a tablet or a > phone. On iOS I can use "the machine" but on Android it only provides > the manufacturer's name. > > Does anyone know a way to do that? For screen metrics or device capabilities? -- Richard Gaskin

Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 08/14/2018 04:53 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: Oh dear, I wasn't trying to prove anything and I didn't really have you I think Richmond was aiming at a different target audience... On 8/14/18 4:25 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: Dear Jacque, I was appealing

Re: Navigator v 6 is out

2018-08-14 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 08/14/2018 07:59 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: Strange... alt key works on my Win10 laptop. Yeah, the alt key is trapped on linux for os purposes. For instance you can alt-drag a stack around on the desktop. Alt-clicking the stacks icon on Navigator does nothing on linux.

Re: stack rect with decorations?

2018-08-14 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Thanks. I had thought I'd tried that and it didn't work, but I tried again at your prompting and indeed it works well, even as far back as v6.7. Do you recall when the "effective" keyword was added as an option for setting a stack's rect property? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems

Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Roger Guay via use-livecode
FWIW, I thought it was extremely funny! I think you should consider stand-up comedienne as a second career. Roger > On Aug 14, 2018, at 4:53 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > Oh dear, I wasn't trying to prove anything and I didn't really have you in > mind...it's a story I

Re: Navigator v 6 is out

2018-08-14 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
Strange... alt key works on my Win10 laptop. On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 9:05 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 08/14/2018 04:37 PM, Geoff Canyon via use-livecode wrote: > >> I've updated to fix several reported issues, and update the Find In >> Scripts >>

Re: Database data & emoji's

2018-08-14 Thread Stephen MacLean via use-livecode
Unfortunately, this looks to be an issue with the revDatabaseColumnNamed() not getting the proper data, even when using a variable in the command to get binary data: put revDatabaseColumnNamed(sRecSet,"tw_full_text","test”) <- should get either text or binary data with put test into fld

Re: Database data & emoji's

2018-08-14 Thread Stephen MacLean via use-livecode
Hi Tore, Thanks, but I’ve already looked at and tried those. Even putting the data directly from the RecordSet to the field just results in question marks “?” where the emoji should be: put textDecode(revDatabaseColumnNamed(sRecSet,"tw_full_text")) into fld "cleaned_tw_content" of cd

Re: Navigator v 6 is out

2018-08-14 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 08/14/2018 04:37 PM, Geoff Canyon via use-livecode wrote: I've updated to fix several reported issues, and update the Find In Scripts and Find by Test functions to support behaviors. Another issue to report: listing system stacks probably works on osx but there's no option key on linux or

Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Jerry Jensen via use-livecode
I like your story. I get it. Too many smileys make me drool. .Jerry > On Aug 14, 2018, at 4:53 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > Oh dear, I wasn't trying to prove anything and I didn't really have you in > mind...it's a story I tell often because my mother was so convinced that

Re: Determine if device is a tablet

2018-08-14 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
On 15/08/2018 00:15, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: > I need to determine whether the current mobile device is a tablet or a phone. > On iOS I can use "the machine" but on Android it only provides the > manufacturer's name. > > Does anyone know a way to do that? Looks like there’s no

Re: Determine if device is a tablet

2018-08-14 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
What's the difference between a tablet and a phone ? Is it the existence of a SIM card ? But if I have an iPhone, but no SIM in it - is it then a tablet ? Is it the size, or the number of pixels, or the ratio ? or what ? :-) Alex. P.S. and how different will the answer be in a year's

Re: Determine if device is a tablet

2018-08-14 Thread Phil Davis via use-livecode
Hi Jacque, One idea: If your app can reach out to a LC page on a server, that page could return $_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"] which in many cases tells something about the kind of device that connected. For example: An old iPad: Mozilla/5.0 (iPad;CPU OS 9_3_5 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/601.1

Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Oh dear, I wasn't trying to prove anything and I didn't really have you in mind...it's a story I tell often because my mother was so convinced that the old stereotypes were still valid and that I was a lost cause, which I never believed. :) And I think it's amusing when I look back and see how

Re: Navigator v 6 is out

2018-08-14 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
I've updated to fix several reported issues, and update the Find In Scripts and Find by Test functions to support behaviors. Fixes: 1. Opening object Inspectors from Navigator should now work. 2. Command-Double-Click for individual Object Inspectors for multiple controls should now work better

Re: Determine if device is a tablet

2018-08-14 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Does any other device do that? If not, it's just process of elimination. On my Apple laptop I get MacBookPro11,4. On my Windows VM I get x86. I cannot test against Linux, but I'm sure it's something similar. Likely all apples begin with Mac. There is also the platform. Bob S > On Aug 14,

Re: Determine if device is a tablet

2018-08-14 Thread Terry Judd via use-livecode
Can you do it based on the aspect ratio of the screen? I wouldn't have thought that there were many phones that were as 'squat' as a typical tablet. Terry... On 15/08/2018 9:16 am, "use-livecode on behalf of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode" wrote: I need to determine whether the current

Determine if device is a tablet

2018-08-14 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I need to determine whether the current mobile device is a tablet or a phone. On iOS I can use "the machine" but on Android it only provides the manufacturer's name. Does anyone know a way to do that? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software

Re: Database data & emoji's

2018-08-14 Thread Tore Nilsen via use-livecode
You should look up textEncode and textDecode in the dictionary. I think they may prove useful. Best regards Tore Nilsen --- This mail contains no viruses or bacteria as it is electronically produced and untouched by human hands. Once printed it may or may not contain various

Database data & emoji's

2018-08-14 Thread Stephen MacLean via use-livecode
Hi All, So I have data (text) stored in a mySQL DB that is set for UTF8 and it stores unicode and emoji characters just fine. My problem is that when I pull a field from the record set and put it into a LC field, I don’t get the unicode or emoji, just the the usual strange characters. I know

Re: [OT] Sublime Text Sync Scrolling

2018-08-14 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
NVM I got one of them working. Bob S > On Aug 14, 2018, at 15:09 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > For those of you who use Sublime Text, I need a way to compare two scripts > side by side, in such away that as I scroll 1, the other also scrolls. There > are scroll sync plugins

[OT] Sublime Text Sync Scrolling

2018-08-14 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
For those of you who use Sublime Text, I need a way to compare two scripts side by side, in such away that as I scroll 1, the other also scrolls. There are scroll sync plugins that purport to do so, but I have tried 3 and all fail to do what they are supposed to do. Does anyone who uses

Re: Windows: "not responding"

2018-08-14 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
to add something to this what also seems to help alleviate the problem is to change the frequency in which the screen updates happen..so show the progress every 10% instead of every .1% or 1%. LC is actually really fast at processing variables and chunksand to be able to go top speed

Re: Windows: "not responding"

2018-08-14 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
I recently ran a Windows app from a major publisher that used a very big percentage of both the CPU and the GPU (my computer didn't meet the minimum specs) without any complaints at all from the OS. High CPU, but totally responsive. Worked just fine. And that's one tiny snowflake on the

Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Dear Jacque, I was appealing to the male contributors to this Use-List. As a man who won prizes for sewing, cooking, flower-arranging, woodwork and was a Sergeant in the school Cadet Force I am the last person to have any truck with daft social stereotypes. I am aware as the next person who

Re: Windows: "not responding"

2018-08-14 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > I think they did. As I recall, the upshot was that this is a Windows > thing, and Livecode is not the only victim. Already addressed when this came up a week ago: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2018-August/249081.html TL;DR: LC is not alone, but evidences

Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 8/14/18 11:26 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: That's why I'm saving up for a Petticoat 5 A brief diversion: I have always hated pink since I can remember. I climbed trees and read books up there as soon as I was able. When I was some high 1-digit age, I asked for a

Re: Why I insist on my pupils writing properly formed English letters.

2018-08-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Mocked by an operating system, no less. If I set the font of my field to ANY font other than the one where a glyph in position hex 978 exists then glyph hex 978 is readily supplied; changing over to my own font (where a glyph is in place) I end up with a square: and this not by LiveCode

Re: Windows: "not responding"

2018-08-14 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
nope. doesn't seem to have any effect. On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 4:12 PM, Tom Glod wrote: > if i had a penny for every time this has come up > > i do not enjoy having to slow down my handlers by adding a wait with > messages command . its a noticeable drop in data processing >

Re: Windows: "not responding"

2018-08-14 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
if i had a penny for every time this has come up i do not enjoy having to slow down my handlers by adding a wait with messages command . its a noticeable drop in data processing performance. this HAS to be addressed at the level of the engine. The OS is supposed to schedule CPU cycles

Re: Windows: "not responding"

2018-08-14 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I think they did. As I recall, the upshot was that this is a Windows thing, and Livecode is not the only victim. In fact, we use a product by Prism called DocRecord, and it will exhibit similar behavior when running on a slower PC with less than optimal resources. I'm thinking maybe this

Re: Windows: "not responding"

2018-08-14 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 8/14/2018 2:09 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote: > I just got "application is not responding" from the Win 10 Task Manager for > about 10 seconds before it came back. I don't say that LC could not improve > on this but if one of Windows core utilities can't avoid it, then in my > humble

Re: Cropping a referenced image

2018-08-14 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Klaus! Brilliant! and "too easy" to boot on mouseup put "https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KO3l3-4pFyo/default.jpg; into tURL set the itemdel to "/"; put item -2 of tURL into tImageName clone img "ytBtnIconTemplate" as tImageName put

Why I insist on my pupils writing properly formed English letters.

2018-08-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Because some people who did not take handwriting very seriously, called the Marwari, started getting their letter 'D' wrong to the extent that it eventually began to be treated as a different letter by Indian Colonial Language experts at the end of the 19th century and then got plonked into the

RE: Windows: "not responding"

2018-08-14 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
I just got "application is not responding" from the Win 10 Task Manager for about 10 seconds before it came back. I don't say that LC could not improve on this but if one of Windows core utilities can't avoid it, then in my humble opinion LC can only mitigate it but never solve it. Ralph DiMola

RE: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
42 Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 1:17 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc:

Re: Navigator v 6 is out

2018-08-14 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
Pretty much my thinking as well, and why I shipped it as I did. But I wanted to ask. gc On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 7:34 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I'm good with universal really. Preferences can become too granular. Then > you would have people

Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
6 x 7 On 14/8/2018 7:30 pm, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 08/14/2018 07:38 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: How long do we have? Bob S On Aug 14, 2018, at 06:23 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: So long, and thanks for all the fish. 8.5 x 11

Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 08/14/2018 07:38 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: How long do we have? Bob S On Aug 14, 2018, at 06:23 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: So long, and thanks for all the fish. 8.5 x 11 -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com

Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
"Once you get beyond how cute they are, you'll find that netbooks can do a lot more than check your e-mail." http://www.nbcnews.com/id/30709961/ns/technology_and_science-digital_home/t/lets-market-pcs-its/#.W3MB7Edj0mI I've never felt the need to have a cute computer; mainly 'cos I'm so cute

Re: Cropping a referenced image

2018-08-14 Thread Stephen MacLean via use-livecode
> On Aug 14, 2018, at 12:18 PM, Stephen MacLean via use-livecode > wrote: > > set the text of checkImgID to empty > > export snapshot from rect (rect of cropRectID) of checkImgID to tTempCrop as > JPEG > > set the text of heroImgID to tTempCrop This should be this: > set the text of

Re: Cropping a referenced image

2018-08-14 Thread Stephen MacLean via use-livecode
> > > #test > > on mouseup > > put the long id of img "thumbTemplate" into pImage > > put the loc of pImage into pLocation > > set the filename of pImage to >

Re: Cropping a referenced image

2018-08-14 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi Bob, > Am 14.08.2018 um 17:47 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > : > > >> On Aug 14, 2018, at 08:03 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> set the height of btn "el croppo" to round(the width of img pImage/16*9) > > You are dancing perilously close to the boundaries of the

Re: Cropping a referenced image

2018-08-14 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Scott Rossi's Method in masking0ption.livecode. I can copy the group of an image (car) with ink:blendSrcOver and graphic ink:blendDstIn into another stack it appears fine. but as soon and I "touch" in group edited, even if you keep them ink params the same, I get not mask! (9.0.1 RC1) so...

Re: Cropping a referenced image

2018-08-14 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
> On Aug 14, 2018, at 08:03 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode > wrote: > > set the height of btn "el croppo" to round(the width of img pImage/16*9) You are dancing perilously close to the boundaries of the evil SpellCorrect. Bob S ___

Re: Cropping a referenced image

2018-08-14 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi Swami, > Am 14.08.2018 um 16:55 schrieb Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode > : > > [sending this again, because it was rolled in another thread/conversation by > the mail list} > > #test > > on mouseup > put the long id of img "thumbTemplate" into pImage > put the loc of pImage

Cropping a referenced image

2018-08-14 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
[sending this again, because it was rolled in another thread/conversation by the mail list} #test on mouseup put the long id of img "thumbTemplate" into pImage put the loc of pImage into pLocation set the filename of pImage to

Cropping a Referenced image

2018-08-14 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
#test on mouseup put the long id of img "thumbTemplate" into pImage put the loc of pImage into pLocation set the filename of pImage to "https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KO3l3-4pFyo/default.jpg; --set the filename of pImage to

Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
If only Apple could be more like Dell, huh? Bob S > On Aug 14, 2018, at 06:33 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > *Apple got too big for their boots and fell in love with marketing their > expensive toys to Paris Hilton knock-offs.* >

Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
How long do we have? Bob S > On Aug 14, 2018, at 06:23 , Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > So long, and thanks for all the fish. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,

Re: Navigator v 6 is out

2018-08-14 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I'm good with universal really. Preferences can become too granular. Then you would have people complaining they set a pref and now it isn't sticking. Bob S > On Aug 13, 2018, at 19:21 , Geoff Canyon via use-livecode > wrote: > > A question for anyone/everyone working with Navigator: the

Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Howdy Richmond, Read my previous reply Your reply was not previous (to my message, that is); it was 10 minutes later. That would have been very difficult indeed as I was 100% unable to get at anything. In the same message I addressed that possibility. So, if your student ever comes

Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Read my previous reply . . . On 14/8/2018 4:13 pm, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote: Quickest route might be LC 6.7. No matter which version, 6 8 9, if you can, turn off ALL update preferences/options. *That would have been very difficult indeed as I was 100% unable to get at

RE: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
6.76 thru 9.01 on a 1709 VM is OK. I would have him blow away the prefs to start==>\users\\AppData\Roaming\RunRev\Preference In that folder delete or rename the Livecode*.rev files. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message-

Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I honestly don't know what would show up anything because . . . I connected the boy's computer up to the internet at which point it asked me to register the OS & I put 2 & 2 together: disconnected the machine, popped down the road with it and gave the boy's Mum "a wigging" about Pirate

Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Quickest route might be LC 6.7. No matter which version, 6 8 9, if you can, turn off ALL update preferences/options. Check Task Manager and end any stray LC processes, especially an "Installer" or "Setup" process which is usually just an update check, but causes tons of issues.

Re: Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
I tried both 8.1.1 and 9.0.1 in Windows 10 Home version 1803, and they were ok. If you get Properties on the EXE, and “Run compatibility tourbleshooter”, does that show up anything? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please

Fun with Windows 10

2018-08-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Not really, to be honest! I have a pupil who has a PC running Windows 10 which he has stuffed "to the gills" with just about everything he can lay his sweaty paws on . . . He is supposed to be working on his LiveCode project for the Summer course but has the following problem: He has

[ANN] This Week in LiveCode 141

2018-08-14 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi all, Read about new developments in LiveCode open source and the open source community in today's edition of the "This Week in LiveCode" newsletter! Read issue #141 here: https://goo.gl/VKHEdV This is a weekly newsletter about LiveCode, focussing on what's been going on in and around

Re: stack rect with decorations?

2018-08-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Just download and install the community version of 7.1.4 and you'll have a working Dictionary. Richmond. On 14/8/2018 5:57 am, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: My dictionary doesn't work and I don't see what I need in the See Also for the online dicts, so maybe someone here remembers: