Re: 9.5 DP 1 Unadorned - LayerMode - Container

2019-05-23 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Wow, thanks Trevor for the R & D! That makes for "pretty plain" Datagrid2 forms. I understand the reasons behind it. But making "gorgeous" UI that scrolls then is not possible. I am developing youTube library that use Datagrid. So it seems we will have to sacrifice scrolling to get a shadow

Re: Dictionary

2019-05-23 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
After a year or more getting used to GIT, I am willing help. I know somewhere, buried in this list, is a tutorial on helping with the dictionary. Can a lesson be created on the subject? I keep asking a lot of ? and get great advice from the list, and save it. I might as well try a few edits

Re: Messages for selecting region?

2019-05-23 Thread doc hawk via use-livecode
Oh, and . . . how do I get that pulsing/sliding selection region marker around the region as I work. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Messages for selecting region?

2019-05-23 Thread doc hawk via use-livecode
I think I used to know this, but . . . Aren’t there messages for when the mouse is held down and dragged, as if selecting an area? Or is it something we do with mosueDown, mouseStillDown, and mouseUp? Specifically, in the new pdf widget, I’m looking to, during development, selecting a

Dictionary

2019-05-23 Thread R.H. via use-livecode
I agree that the dictionary often leaves guess work. The biggest problem I have with the dictionary is forgetting the name of a function and trying to guess the name. If there were lots of tags to look for... but... You must know at least the beginning of a name. And how can you even search not

UPDATE: Nested Datagrid Behaviors

2019-05-23 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Hi all. For those of you interested in nesting custom DataGrid behaviors, as has been discussed before, note that there was a conflict I discovered with revNavigator and folding. With Geoff's help I developed a patch for it. Comment out and paste the private function _resourceStack in your

Re: LC904rc2 Project Browser error?

2019-05-23 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
I did not because I could not repeat the problem I was seeing in 9.0.4 stable. I also can not reproduce the issue in 905rc-1 I don't know if what I saw was a real problem or user error in the 904rc's and since I can not reproduce it, I have moved on to other issues. On 5/23/2019 12:40 PM,

Re: 9.5 DP 1 Unadorned - LayerMode - Container

2019-05-23 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 11:10 AM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 5/23/19 8:39 AM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: > > > >> On 23 May 2019, at 8:01 am, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> > >> On Thu, May

Re: The correct way to quit a Windows standalone

2019-05-23 Thread JJS via use-livecode
If you look at the script i posted before, then you see for windows /T and /F and so on. This will kill the application and all child processes. On 23-05-19 17:59, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: So this seems odd to me. If an executable that spawns other processes/threads (if that is

Re: 9.5 DP 1 Unadorned - LayerMode - Container

2019-05-23 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Sounds like a lot of guesswork going on. Brahm is right, it needs documenting with full clarity. Sean Cole *Pi Digital Productions Ltd* eMail Ts & Cs On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 17:10, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >

Re: LC904rc2 Project Browser error?

2019-05-23 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
I installed 9.0.4 on a Mac, and it looks like there are several bugs still with drag and drop of groups. Did you file a bug for this issue? On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 12:17 AM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Not to slight to any 3rd party tools, but I

Re: repeat with times

2019-05-23 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
It may have passed in the past (ahem) because the engine might have thought you were trying to multiply 5 by empty, and if that is allowed (empty interpreted as 1) then the parser would go, "Okay, sure!" I just put "put 5 times empty" into the message box and got 5. "put 5 times" also gives

Re: 9.5 DP 1 Unadorned - LayerMode - Container

2019-05-23 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 5/23/19 8:39 AM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: On 23 May 2019, at 8:01 am, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode wrote: On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 7:30 AM Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: 9.5 looks exciting. But we need a "lexicon" (or Kognition) for the

Re: repeat with times

2019-05-23 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Unless you were a bug, and then it might be perfectly fine. Bob S > On May 22, 2019, at 23:57 , Richmond via use-livecode > wrote: > > If syntax is invalid it is WRONG, and does not need to be flagged as > anything, just corrected. > > If I write: The dog me bit. > > It is wrong: it is

Re: The correct way to quit a Windows standalone

2019-05-23 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
So this seems odd to me. If an executable that spawns other processes/threads (if that is what a splash stack is doing) quits, Windows should also terminate the processes/threads. I suppose, from reading various email posts here that there are different ways to implement a splash screen. As I

Re: 9.5 DP 1 Unadorned - LayerMode - Container

2019-05-23 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 10:39 AM Monte Goulding via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > On 23 May 2019, at 8:01 am, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 7:30 AM Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via > use-livecode

Re: The correct way to quit a Windows standalone

2019-05-23 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
Actually, this all seems like a Windows "bug" to me. A language like LiveCode, should, if I script 'quit', do exactly that - quit. If there are any open anythings preventing that, the engine should shut them all down for us. Now as a software developer, I agree that good programming practice

Re: Why such a large external folder on Windows?

2019-05-23 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
CEF is large. On mac we use the system browser. > On 23 May 2019, at 5:56 am, Glen Bojsza via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hello, > > I took a very basic app that has a browser widget and made a standalone for > OS X and Windows in LC 9.0.5 > > I was shocked that the Windows standalone has an

Re: 9.5 DP 1 Unadorned - LayerMode - Container

2019-05-23 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 23 May 2019, at 8:01 am, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode > wrote: > > On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 7:30 AM Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode > wrote: > >> 9.5 looks exciting. >> >> But we need a "lexicon" (or Kognition) for the dictionary. >> It is still written in

Re: OT Re: repeat with times

2019-05-23 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
:-) > On May 23, 2019, at 06:37 , Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode > wrote: > > That's why Sanskrit pundits are working for AI at Microsoft, because > > Order Language Syntax matter does not > > BR > >  David V Glasgow wrote: > >What if Yoda you are?

Re: The correct way to quit a Windows standalone

2019-05-23 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
It's not just fonts, anything that's still in use needs to be removed. Fonts, stacks in use, open processes, com ports, sockets, etc. Basically you need to shut down everything the stack opened. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software |

Re: The correct way to quit a Windows standalone

2019-05-23 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
If it is a requirement for any loaded fonts to be unloaded from memory for a Standalone to actually quit under Microsoft Windows then a bug should be entered at https://quality.livecode.com/ to update the Dictionary entries for: closeStackRequest shutDownRequest quit start using font stop

Re: 9.5 DP 1 Unadorned - LayerMode - Container

2019-05-23 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 7:30 AM Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: > 9.5 looks exciting. > > But we need a "lexicon" (or Kognition) for the dictionary. > It is still written in "deep-in-the-engine-jungle-geek-speak" > > For us lay people, we need a few more words. E.g. > >

Re: The correct way to quit a Windows standalone

2019-05-23 Thread Eller, Roger via use-livecode
I do this to cleanly exit my Windows standalone, which is a splashscreen stack. Because I have used a couple of fonts that I keep with the standalone, I have to STOP USING them, else the process will still continue to run. This handler is in my visible stack, not in the standalone splashscreen

9.5 DP 1 Unadorned - LayerMode - Container

2019-05-23 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
9.5 looks exciting. But we need a "lexicon" (or Kognition) for the dictionary. It is still written in "deep-in-the-engine-jungle-geek-speak" For us lay people, we need a few more words. E.g. layerMode What does "unadorned" mean? One could make an intuitive guess: "having no special

Re: OT Re: repeat with times

2019-05-23 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
That's why Sanskrit pundits are working for AI at Microsoft, because Order Language Syntax matter does not BR  David V Glasgow wrote: What if Yoda you are? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Why such a large external folder on Windows?

2019-05-23 Thread Glen Bojsza via use-livecode
Hello, I took a very basic app that has a browser widget and made a standalone for OS X and Windows in LC 9.0.5 I was shocked that the Windows standalone has an external folder of 116.5 MB plus the .exe file where as on OS X the single standalone file was 18MB. I cannot fathom the concept of

Re: IDE 9.0.4 and 9.0.5rc1 getting slow again on win10?

2019-05-23 Thread Sphere via use-livecode
Hi Jerry too, indeed, but in the previous versions too like 904 and 905. So i don't know exact if these are the same bugs or new ones which were solved. Regards, Jerry Jerry Jensen via use-livecode schreef op 2019-05-22 21:44: I hear a lot of memory leaks were fixed in 9.5. - other Jerry

IDE 9.0.4 and 9.0.5rc1 getting slow again on win10?

2019-05-23 Thread R.H. via use-livecode
Well I noticed it too in 9.0.4, but did not try 9.0.5rc1 yet -- waiting to hear that it is stable enough. Script editor performance is again below normal. Crossing fingers it will be ok in the upcoming version. Roland ___ use-livecode mailing list

OT Re: repeat with times

2019-05-23 Thread David V Glasgow via use-livecode
What if Yoda you are? > On 23 May 2019, at 7:57 am, Richmond via use-livecode > wrote: > > If I write: The dog me bit. > > It is wrong: it is not a bug, nor a regression. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this

Re: Download file from widget browser ?

2019-05-23 Thread hh via use-livecode
> Ludovic T. wrote: > If I go on a website to download text files within the widget browser, > where I retrieve the downloaded file ? You could try to use browserUnhandledLoadRequest. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please

Re: IDE 9.0.4 and 9.0.5rc1 getting slow again on win10?

2019-05-23 Thread AndyP via use-livecode
Using LC 9.5.0 DP1 64bit Windows on Windows 10 64bit The only slowdowns I've seen are when the message box is opened with a /put/ then each time this is done LC turns to treacle. However apart from this release is performance wise much much better than previous releases. - Andy Piddock

Re: repeat with times

2019-05-23 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
If syntax is invalid it is WRONG, and does not need to be flagged as anything, just corrected. If I write: The dog me bit. It is wrong: it is not a bug, nor a regression. Richmond. On 23.05.19 9:42, ambassador--- via use-livecode wrote: andrew at midwestcoastmedia.com wrote: I realize

Re: repeat with times

2019-05-23 Thread ambassador--- via use-livecode
andrew at midwestcoastmedia.com wrote: I realize there are better and more efficient ways to construct that loop, but the fact that the original code does not throw an error in 9.0.5rc1 but does throw an error in 9.5dp1 made it seem like a regression. If the syntax is invalid, flagging it as