Re: Android Speed Woes

2019-08-29 Thread Pi Digital via use-livecode
That’s perfect and very near the results we’d expect to see. So it narrows it down to display. What’s inside the groups and what settings do they have? If there are images what quality setting do they have, normal better or best? Any scaling factors anywhere? Rotations? Anti-aliasing? Shapes,

Re: Android Speed Woes

2019-08-29 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode
Mark, put the milliseconds into m put "" into jones repeat 1 put "a" after jones end repeat put jones into pFart put the milliseconds - m into m answer m iMac = 1 Moto G5 = 16 Moto G6 = 10 iPhone X = 7 -Dan On 8/29/19, 5:09 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Mark Wieder via

Re: Android Speed Woes

2019-08-29 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 8/29/19 4:40 PM, Dan Friedman via use-livecode wrote: Sean, Another test would be to see how fast it creates a variable with 10,000 characters using a repeat loop ... put "" into jones repeat 1 put "a" after jones end repeat put the milliseconds into m put jones into pFart put

Re: Android Speed Woes

2019-08-29 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Looks like we should be comparing GPUs instead of CPUs. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On August 29, 2019 6:42:09 PM Dan Friedman via use-livecode wrote: Sean, Another test would be to see how fast it creates a

Re: Android Speed Woes

2019-08-29 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode
Sean, >>Another test would be to see how fast it creates a variable with 10,000 >>characters using a repeat loop ... put "" into jones repeat 1 put "a" after jones end repeat put the milliseconds into m put jones into pFart put the milliseconds - m into m answer m iMac = 1 Moto G5 = 0

Re: Android Speed Woes

2019-08-29 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode
Sean, I wouldn't say AR is non-functional. When I enable it I do see a difference. Although, in almost all cases it makes it worse. I see jerky scrolling and screen artifacts. I am using 9.5.0 Business. I compiled the app in 9.0.4 Indy, and m=562. Interesting that I just tried it on a

Re: Android Speed Woes

2019-08-29 Thread Pi Digital via use-livecode
Dan is talking 500 times difference in response tho. That’s a bit more substantial. Plus speed degradation to a device designed to run Android 7.0 shouldn’t be to that degree either, for display or under the hood. The G5 has an octo 1.4ghz, the iPhoneX is 6core 2.39, only 4 times as fast (8-10

Re: Android Speed Woes

2019-08-29 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Just for your future reference, MarkWs excellent description about AccRend: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2017-May/236782.html Sean > > On 29 Aug 2019, at 21:24, Dan Friedman via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > I have tried it with and without

Re: Android Speed Woes

2019-08-29 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I'd say it's the phone. The Moto G5 has a budget processor and an old version of Android OS. An iPhoneX is newer and much faster so it isn't really a fair comparison. My Pixel has a much faster processor running the latest OS and is quite snappy; my Samsung S5 is old and slow and responds as

Troubleshooting the IDE

2019-08-29 Thread Brian Snipes via use-livecode
Can anyone point me to resources for debugging the IDE code itself? There is an issue with LC on the Plasma desktop on Linux where the tool pallete just disappears making it darned hard to use the tools. I've asked in the forum about it before but there isn't an answer that solves the issue. I

Re: Android Speed Woes

2019-08-29 Thread Pi Digital via use-livecode
Hi Dan I don’t think this is fully related to your issue based on the script you show but... I’ve been doing extensive testing this week and have come close to the conclusion now that AcceleratedRendering is completely non functional for all platforms. However, I’ve got a feeling that none of

Re: Native HTML5 field

2019-08-29 Thread Pi Digital via use-livecode
Thanks H Now all I need to do is figure out some way of making this into a usable DataGrid Sean > On 29 Aug 2019, at 19:13, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode > wrote: > > Not to mention multi level Ctl-z undo's! Nice... Thank You. > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services

Android Speed Woes

2019-08-29 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode
Hello again! I am have a tough time getting things to run snappy on an Android device. It's blazing fast on my computer, and more than acceptable on my iPhone, but on any android device, it's slow... noticeably sluggish. The issue is mainly hiding/showing groups. For example: put the

RE: Native HTML5 field

2019-08-29 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Not to mention multi level Ctl-z undo's! Nice... Thank You. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net Phone: 518-636-3998 Ex:11 Cell: 518-796-9332 -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of

Native HTML5 field

2019-08-29 Thread hh via use-livecode
One shouldn't go for months without a gift (for some of you). Here is its. * Native HTML5 Field v_101 (for HTML5 standalones )* This works with Chrome, Firefox and Safari on Mac, Windows and linux. (With Firefox are problems when dragging from one field to the other). Test it from (US)

Re: Maintenance forever?

2019-08-29 Thread Rick Harrison via use-livecode
They said they had a RAID that failed that caused a mess. One still has to do backups for any RAID for that reason. Even if they were just using Time Machine to perform a backup of their RAID they only would lose a maximum of one hour’s worth of data. If they were doing transaction logging they

Re: Another list test

2019-08-29 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Aug 29, 2019, at 7:40 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: > > If an SMTP relay cannon contact the destination mail server, there usually is > a time period in which it will retry. By the time someone takes a cannon to a server, it’s usually to late to retry! :) — Richard E.

Re: Another list test

2019-08-29 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
When my posts wouldn't send I got an error reply from my mail server about an "unknown user". So I don't think the list server ate the message, the post couldn't be delivered at all. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On

Re: Maintenance forever?

2019-08-29 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Well to be fair, you can always go back to your sent mail folder and resend. I reiterate that if the SMTP relay you use cannot contact another server, it will typically attempt to resend for a period of time. If it fails, your SMTP server *may* alert you to the fact, depending on how it's

Re: Another list test

2019-08-29 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
 > On Aug 29, 2019, at 07:40 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > If an SMTP relay cannon contact the destination mail server, there usually is > a time period in which it will retry. Sometimes it can be as long as 2 or 3 > days. > > Bob S > > >> On Aug 29, 2019, at 07:36 ,

Re: OT: I just bought one of these

2019-08-29 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
I've watched some reviews since and it's not that great actually as it can't run linux itself. It's not quite a raspberry pi and something more than a Micro controller. But, even worse than that is the support. The instructions are near non-existent and in some form of Chinglish. Plus, unlike RP

Re: OT: I just bought one of these

2019-08-29 Thread Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode
I got this for the lab bench (and Windows 10 testing). https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01AT394A4 > On Aug 29, 2019, at 10:06 AM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 8/24/19 3:58 AM, Pi Digital via use-livecode wrote: >> Wow! What an amazing form factor. It’s beautiful. The only

Re: Datagrid2 Form view slow down.

2019-08-29 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Hi Mark Waddingham, This message didn't get through befroe, apparently, due to your servers being down (just another thing to cause us stress...). So here's what I sent Thank you for you very comprehensive response. It does help me understand a great deal more about the innards of the data

Re: Maintenance forever?

2019-08-29 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Hehe. I feel your pain. Daily. Dang their lack of resources and staff. I am pretty much working entirely with workarounds at the moment to really, really, insanely, inanely basic, stuff. Like keys other than a-Z,0-9 actually functioning! or datagrids going faster than a x386 displaying 8k! I'm

Re: Another list test

2019-08-29 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Was it bouncing the messages? How can we check if a message was sent/received during this time? Is there an archive we can view? Sean Cole *Pi Digital Productions Ltd* www.pidigital.co.uk +44(1634)402193 +44(7702)116447 'Don't try to think outside the box. Just remember the truth: There is no

Re: Another list test

2019-08-29 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 8/29/19 8:26 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: The list was down for 2 days due to the server move so there won't be any mail to restore. Right. But during that time the listserv just ate incoming emails, mine included. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com

Re: OT: I just bought one of these

2019-08-29 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 8/24/19 3:58 AM, Pi Digital via use-livecode wrote: Wow! What an amazing form factor. It’s beautiful. The only down side is it’s only got 128MB of memory. That means it’s going to be flip-flopping on virtual memory all the time. So make sure you use a micro U3 SDXC >150Mbps card. I’ve seen

Re: Another list test

2019-08-29 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
The list was down for 2 days due to the server move so there won't be any mail to restore. I think we all suffered from withdrawal symptoms. I myself was forced to read Twitter during the interim and I fear for my health now. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive

Maintenance forever?

2019-08-29 Thread hh via use-livecode
To do the same things twice or three times is OK if some people have difficulties to do their job. But that's going too far now. After close to a week the "maintenance" people are still exercising only. Many posts are lost in forums and use-list. No upload to livecodeshare is possible. Nearly

Re: Another list test

2019-08-29 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
If an SMTP relay cannon contact the destination mail server, there usually is a time period in which it will retry. Sometimes it can be as long as 2 or 3 days. Bob S > On Aug 29, 2019, at 07:36 , Graham Samuel via use-livecode > wrote: > > And another thing - my two test emails were not

Re: Another list test

2019-08-29 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
And another thing - my two test emails were not sent today but on 27th August, so they have been spinning about in cyberspace for a couple of days. Is this normal? Graham > On 27 Aug 2019, at 13:00, Graham Samuel via use-livecode > wrote: > > For me there is a gap for 25 and 26 August -

Re: Another list test

2019-08-29 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
For me there is a gap for 25 and 26 August - absolutely nothing. Will posts from those dates reappear? Graham > On 27 Aug 2019, at 12:35, R.H. via use-livecode > wrote: > > I am still not receiving any message through email since last week. > > Roland >

Test

2019-08-29 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
I haven’t seen any mails from the list since 24 August. Just testing. Please ignore. Graham ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: checking we're still here

2019-08-29 Thread Heather Laine via use-livecode
Yes, that's up and running now. Regards, Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager LiveCode Ltd www.livecode.com > On 29 Aug 2019, at 14:38, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode > wrote: > > Yes... > > Is the QCC website update completed? > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen

RE: checking we're still here

2019-08-29 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Yes... Is the QCC website update completed? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Heather Laine via use-livecode Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019

checking we're still here

2019-08-29 Thread Heather Laine via use-livecode
Been a bit quiet today. Is the list still getting messages? Heather Laine Customer Services Manager LiveCode Ltd www.livecode.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and