This situation is the kind of thing that Kevin encourages you to contact
support about. He's said he doesn't want to lose anyone.
It's true that open source has made things difficult for the company, but
they also value the folks who have stood by them all this time. Please do
write to
It’s, “So long, and thanks for all the fish!” And unless you can do a double
360 back flip while passing through a smallish ring suspended above the pool, I
remain unimpressed.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 1, 2021, at 17:53, Neville Smythe via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
>
>> On 1 Sep 2021,
> On 1 Sep 2021, at 11:36 pm, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:
>
> i am not sure, if everyone is aware of it, but standalones that were created
> with the Starter Plan license will expire as soon as the Startert Plan
> subscription expires.
Not even Apple is that rapacious.
I
Kevin kayaked,
>Look what happened to Open Office. It died because no one wanted to work on it.
???
The bulk of the developers bolted and formed LibreOffice from the OO codebase.
It’s alive and well--I just downloaded a new version this morning.
It isn’t that OO faded or died, but that
Dan,
These will be useful to you:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21893447/facebook-sdk-app-not-registered-as-a-url-scheme
https://github.com/facebookarchive/react-native-fbsdk/issues/707
Pi
On Wed, 1 Sept 2021 at 18:38, David Bovill via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
I don’t know Dan as its been a while since I looked into this - but it sounds
like a typical security thing Apple insists on for the AppStore? They tend
(when compared to Android), to lock that sort of thing down save for a few
standard (internet) url schema.
Schedule a call with me
On 1
Only one thought: the protocols that do work on iOS are general declarations
that are routed to an app/service as the host OS thinks is appropriate. Less
common ones and app-specific ones do have to be registered... in the app that
wants to be able RECEIVE them. So if the FB app doesn’t have
I need a little help here...
I am creating a mobile app for a client that wants to simply launch another
app. To do this, I am trying to use a custom url to launch an external app.
For example:
launch url "fb:"
This works fine on Android, but on iOS, I get "no association" (yes, Facebook
I think I’ll head over there and. See if there is any will to maintain an
aspect of the language as open source - I think there are a couple of options:
1. The server
2. The language with a focus on was and web
I would think that with these components open, this is in no way incompatible
with
We are of course incredibly grateful for the contributions we have received,
all of which were spent on the project over many years. However I would note
that 90%+ of all crowd funding campaign support came from license holders, the
majority in the form of future license purchases. Commercial
The vast majority of those who contributed to the Kickstarter were rewarded
with something other than the free product.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28379192
I suggest you go read the comments on the Forum and see who is being
harsh. LC Ltd made a change that is within their rights to
"I can only assume
many of them used LC simply because it was free of charge, disliking that
doing so in future will entail them making some contribution to the cost of
progress."
That's a bit harsh, are you forgetting the amount of money that was
contributed by users to the fund raisers over the
Brian... your price lock lapsed in January 2019. The last payment we received
was in 2018, hence it could hardly be described as having been "kept active".
Please contact support to discuss your exact licensing situation, I think you
will find it more satisfactory than you realise.
Best
Check your email..,
> On Sep 1, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Keith Martin via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> I just hope that my Price Lock Indy subscription will continue as promised.
Mine was cancelled via email from cleverbridge:
Your subscription for "LiveCode Indy - Price Lock" has been canceled.
>
> On 1 Sep 2021, at 10:02, matthias rebbe via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Whenever I suggested to people, who used the software for creating internally
> for their company, to support LC at least with a Community Plus subscription,
> I always got the same answer: Why should I buy a license when
Yes - I agree with the reasons mentioned for difficulty getting contributions.
I have some faith in new opportunities, and I personally would invest in
growing and maintaining some aspect of an open source strategy - particularly
around the server.
I would have thought that having an open
That’s true Kevin for some business cases - and I am sure you speak for your
existing customers.
However it does not apply to businesses built around GPL licensed code. Nor
does it apply to publicly funded initiative like EU funding, where an open
source license is required to avoid fears of
I just hope that my Price Lock Indy subscription will continue as promised.
Kevin did say yesterday that "if we promised something in the past we do honour
it” and back when I started my Indy sub I was told that my subscription will
'remain at the same cost for as long as I keep it active' –
That’s true Mike and I’ve looked into it for my own benefit from time to time
over the years. What I was suggesting was some formal support from the company
to facilitate contributions to the IDE going forward. I never attempted much
in the IDE because I’m not comfortable with my
You could always get at the IDE. You still can. Hopefully that won't
change, because there are plenty of times where something is broken and it
takes forever to get it fixed.
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 9:37 AM Timothy Bleiler via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> I’m afraid I
I’m afraid I have to agree with Andre that if people didn’t contribute before,
with Livecode Ltd. overseeing the process, they’re not going to now. A large
part of the problem is that there just aren’t very many of us with the time and
skills to make contributions to the engine.
Like Sean,
FWIW over on the forums the sentiment seems to be mostly hostile to these
changes. Many are talking of collecting and hosting past "community"
installers to get around these changes by LC Ltd, others talking of jumping
ship. Over there the attitude is "the sky is falling". I can only assume
many
I'll refer again to the Firebird project. One of the ways they were able to
build on this opensource project was that as a community they employed and
funded programmers (mostly in Russia, if memory serves) to add the features
the community wanted. So one way or another FOSS projects end up
The main reasons I stopped contributing were:
No easy support for LiveCode script as it was all in binary so versioning
was non-existent.
Life cycle between a pull request, merge and deployment
The dictionary was the only place I was able to properly contribute. But it
still sucked a lot. And was
Extending on something Bernd said, I would hope the gang will consider is
keeping portions that are built upon the engine OSS, even with a
restrictive commercial license.
Something else for all of us to remember, when LC went OSS, there was a
reason, and at least part of that was financial.
As
People had eight years to contribute to the community edition, and they
didn't. I don't think people would now start caring for and devoting the
necessary energy to maintain the community edition. It is because people
didn't organise and contribute that this recent change happened.
On Wed, 1 Sept
Here are my thoughts on this - and a request.
Yes - it’s not a surprising move by Livecode Ltd - they were clearly struggling
supporting the community aspect and taking the language to the next level and
they need more revenue to do that.
The question is (for my part at least) - what to do
> On 1 Sep 2021, at 11:26 am, Bernard Devlin via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> There you had a group of programmers who supposedly loved what
> HyperCard could do, but they only loved that concept as a historical
> artefact, not as a tool available to people now.
Abso-frogging-lutely.
The
I can't say this surprises me. I didn't expect the open source offering to
do anything but cut into the bottom line. But certainty isn't achieved
until something is tried and actual results obtained. One of the good
things about having the code source was that there have been times when
I've
Alex,
i am not sure, if everyone is aware of it, but standalones that were created
with the Starter Plan license will expire as soon as the Startert Plan
subscription expires.
Matthias
> Am 01.09.2021 um 10:29 schrieb Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
> :
>
> Thanks Curry. You are absolutely
You speak from my heart.
I had exactly the same thoughts about a free version. And i was proven right at
least here in my edged circle (i hope that is the correct expression). Whenever
I suggested to people, who used the software for creating internally for their
company, to support LC at
but OpenOffice is not!
On Wed, 1 Sept 2021 at 09:15, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> LibreOffice is alive and kicking.
>
> On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 09:48 David Wood via use-livecode, <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > > LiveCode is magical.
Thanks Curry, we appreciate the feedback. Hope you feel better soon!
Kind regards,
Kevin
Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/
LiveCode: Develop Yourself
On 31/08/2021, 22:28, "use-livecode on behalf of Curry Kenworthy via
use-livecode" wrote:
Kevin:
>
Thanks Curry. You are absolutely right, everything I said was about the starter
plan, not the standard plan.
With that correction: “I am surprised there is no annual option on the starter
(hobbyist) plan”.
Thanks,
Alex the hobbyist.
Sent from my iPhone
> On 1 Sep 2021, at 01:55, Curry
LibreOffice is alive and kicking.
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 09:48 David Wood via use-livecode, <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> > LiveCode is magical. (From a beta HyperCard user!)
>
>
> Gosh! I was also a Hypercard user. But a beta Hypercard user! WOW!
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> >
> > On Wed, 1 Sept
> LiveCode is magical. (From a beta HyperCard user!)
Gosh! I was also a Hypercard user. But a beta Hypercard user! WOW!
Dave
>
> On Wed, 1 Sept 2021 at 01:04, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>> I honestly never quite saw how offering a free version
For what it's worth, I am also an open source skeptic. Look what happened
to Open Office. It died because no one wanted to work on it.
But please simplify the pricing. And I am not a fan of subscription prices
either. Let me buy and upgrade if I want when a new version is out.
LiveCode is
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