I tested three use cases, with variations, using ChatGPT for (live)code
generation. There was a lot of back and forth. In the end, I solved all the
problems I set, but in some cases I had to hold ChatGPT's hand pretty
tightly.
That said, I learned some things as well -- about LiveCode. ChatGPT's
... ok. But first, can you provide an example of ANY application that
displays that much text or that many lines in a field? A-Whaaay back when,
Microsoft ran into this problem with large Word and Excel files. They got
around it by developing a paging system that only kept in memory a
I tried to put text into a field on an arm MacBook Pro 32 GB memory, LC 9.6.9
rc2 running natively. I realise that this is 64 bit.
I took a couple of lines of Lorem Ipsum and put it into a field. Then I put the
formattedText of that field into the field to force lineFeeds at every visible
All the responses about crashing - because lines are too long (exceeding
65K chars or 32K x in line length) or there are too many lines (and so
32,767px of scrollable height is not enough) - strongly indicated that
an overhaul of the standard field object is needed in LC 10, or, more
likely,
Craig,
You are probably exceeding the 32k pixel limit of the field height.
Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of
Craig Newman via use-livecode
Richard.
As I mentioned, I wanted to make sure the field had scroll capabilities. ;-)
> On Jan 19, 2023, at 12:54 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> David Epstein wrote:
>
> > How many rows or columns or characters can reasonably be displayed
> > in a LiveCode field? A 1.39 GB
Guys, (and Jacque)
I made my test with lines of 14 chars. Lots of lines. LC crashes.
Craig
> On Jan 19, 2023, at 10:10 AM, Craig Newman wrote:
>
> The stack I made to test this became corrupted after a couple of runs. I
> guess the way to do this is to increase the length until a crash,
David Epstein wrote:
> How many rows or columns or characters can reasonably be displayed
> in a LiveCode field? A 1.39 GB text file seems pretty clearly to
> surpass the limit, but how much do I need to subdivide it?
Jacque noted the machine limits, but I'm curious about a human question:
At
The theoretical field text limit is about 4 GB but the practical limit
depends on available RAM.
--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On January 19, 2023 9:12:31 AM Craig Newman via use-livecode
wrote:
The stack I made to
On 1/19/23 07:26, Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode wrote:
From the User Guide:
Maximum length of a line in a field:
65,536 characters storage
No more than 32,786 pixels wide for display
If you put lines longer above limits then LC will hang/crash
The amount of lines a field can hold is a
Thanks to Bernd for this:
> Maximum length of a line in a field:
> 65,536 characters storage
> No more than 32,786 pixels wide for display
This seems to mean we can have a 65k long line only if each character’s width
is around half a pixel.
And that if the character width is 10 pixels the
>> But when I tried to put that variable into a field, LC crashed. When I tried
>> to put 140 MB into a field, same crash. I did not continue to reduce the
>> length of that variable until the field could be loaded.
Craig,
>From the User Guide:
Maximum length of a line in a field:
65,536
David,
I believe the field limit for X and Y is 32767 pixels. Or is it 65535? 32767
sticks in my head. I have run into this limit a few times and had to chunk
the data in/out the field as the user scrolls. As Craig noted variables
don't have this limit.
Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen
The stack I made to test this became corrupted after a couple of runs. I guess
the way to do this is to increase the length until a crash, not decrease.
> On Jan 19, 2023, at 10:09 AM, Craig Newman wrote:
>
> But I assume that there is a value where a field can be loaded and display a
> large
But I assume that there is a value where a field can be loaded and display a
large amount of text. It would be simple to find that value if LC didn’t crash
each time it was attempted along the way.
Craig
> On Jan 19, 2023, at 10:06 AM, Craig Newman wrote:
>
> David.
>
> You want to display
David.
You want to display 1.39 GB in a field? Will it scroll?
I made a quick test stack that created a variable with a length of 1.4 GB. No
problem.
But when I tried to put that variable into a field, LC crashed. When I tried to
put 140 MB into a field, same crash. I did not continue to
I suppose like a love affair, it can get addicting… I tried a few more queries
in different programming languages to see how it would do. My queries were not
very challenging, but it scored 10 out of 10 for both SAS and SQL (ie. both
worked the first time). For python, when I asked it to write
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