Re: LC Server on DreamHost?

2014-11-23 Thread stephen barncard
would you consider this script to be comparative to the complexity of phpInfo() ? anyway I don't think the slowdown I'm seeing at Dreamhost would be caught in this benchmark. Once LC is loaded, it is quite speedy. But on the server it has to restart for every page load. my livecode test script

Re: LC Server on DreamHost?

2014-11-23 Thread Peter W A Wood
Stephen Some time ago, I ran some tests to measure the comparative startup times of PHP, LiveCode and HTML on On-rev. The two scripts are simple: Livecode htmlhead/headbody?php echo pI've started/p ?/body/html PHP htmlhead/headbody?php echo pI've started/p

Re: LC Server on DreamHost?

2014-11-23 Thread stephen barncard
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Peter W A Wood peterwaw...@gmail.com wrote: Some time ago, I ran some tests to measure the comparative startup times of PHP, LiveCode and HTML on On-rev. The two scripts are simple: Livecode htmlhead/headbody?php echo pI've started/p

Re: LC Server on DreamHost?

2014-11-23 Thread Peter W A Wood
Stephen On 24 Nov 2014, at 13:28, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Peter W A Wood peterwaw...@gmail.com wrote: Some time ago, I ran some tests to measure the comparative startup times of PHP, LiveCode and HTML on On-rev. The two

Re: LC Server on DreamHost?

2014-11-22 Thread Warren Samples
On 11/21/2014 01:56 PM, Phil Davis wrote: the speed of loading is TERRIBLE with the 7.0.1 LC Linux server. It takes 4.5 seconds for LC to 'execute' a simple page every time. It's not about DNS and a PHP page on the same site loads immediately by comparison. Is this possibly related to other

Re: LC Server on DreamHost?

2014-11-22 Thread Warren Samples
On 11/21/2014 01:56 PM, Phil Davis wrote: I'm glad it isn't just me: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13983 Phil Davis Phil, Your desktop utility shows a difference of about 8 to 10 times using your URLs and about 4 times using mine when run under 6.6.2. Opening the URLs in a

Re: LC Server on DreamHost?

2014-11-22 Thread Richard Gaskin
Warren Samples wrote: Unless there is a problem specific to the 64 bit engine it seems more likely related to some issue with the DreamHost setup. Agreed. A four-fold increase in script processing time seems about average for the tests I've seen comparing 6.7 and 7.0; much beyond that seems

Re: LC Server on DreamHost?

2014-11-22 Thread Phil Davis
On 11/22/14 10:23 AM, Warren Samples wrote: On 11/21/2014 01:56 PM, Phil Davis wrote: I'm glad it isn't just me: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13983 Phil Davis Phil, Your desktop utility shows a difference of about 8 to 10 times using your URLs and about 4 times using mine

Re: LC Server on DreamHost?

2014-11-21 Thread Devin Asay
Thanks, Scott and Richard, for working this out. Can these notes be included in the READ ME file/installation instructions for LC Server/Linux? Devin On Nov 20, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Thanks to the patient generosity of our fearless Community Leader

Re: LC Server on DreamHost?

2014-11-21 Thread stephen barncard
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Is it necessary to declare special handling for PHP when declaring special handling for other file types? I'd thought PHP support was a given on DH's shared hosting accounts, handled in Apache2.config at the

Re: LC Server on DreamHost?

2014-11-21 Thread Phil Davis
On 11/21/14 10:05 AM, stephen barncard wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Is it necessary to declare special handling for PHP when declaring special handling for other file types? I'd thought PHP support was a given on DH's shared hosting

Re: LC Server on DreamHost?

2014-11-20 Thread Scott Rossi
Thanks to the patient generosity of our fearless Community Leader Richard Gaskin, between us we were able to determine the combination of .htaccess files needed to get LCserver working on DreamHost under Ubuntu (at least for my situation). As a few others have noted, the most basic setup is more

Re: LC Server on DreamHost?

2014-11-18 Thread Richard Gaskin
stephen barncard wrote: With all due respect - the problem here is getting livecode and php to execute together in the same domain space (where we might want some Wordpress pages AND livecode. This is my problem as well. Thanks. Somehow I missed the reference to PHP requirements in Scott's

LC Server on DreamHost?

2014-11-17 Thread Scott Rossi
Hi All: I know there was some discussion recently about getting LiveCode server working again on DreamHost now that they¹ve updated to Ubuntu. Can anyone shed some light on what¹s needed here? I believe Richard Gaskin said something about using v7 64bit but I only see one download option in my

Re: LC Server on DreamHost?

2014-11-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Scott Rossi wrote: I know there was some discussion recently about getting LiveCode server working again on DreamHost now that they¹ve updated to Ubuntu. Can anyone shed some light on what¹s needed here? I believe Richard Gaskin said something about using v7 64bit but I only see one

Re: LC Server on DreamHost?

2014-11-17 Thread Scott Rossi
Thanks Richard. I only see one server download option listed under my account, but obviously I can get Community server from the downloads page. What about server configuration? With the previous server setup at DreamHost, one needed to have several, what are they called, directives (?) in an

Re: LC Server on DreamHost?

2014-11-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Scott Rossi wrote: What about server configuration? With the previous server setup at DreamHost, one needed to have several, what are they called, directives (?) in an htaccess file to make the server know how to the deal with .rev and .lc files. Are these still needed with the new Ubuntu

Re: LC Server on DreamHost?

2014-11-17 Thread Scott Rossi
Thanks for the pointer. Unfortunately, I¹m still having no luck getting LC server to run. The test page provided with the RunRev lesson doesn¹t render with the server calculated values, so something¹s not working. Is this maybe a permissions thing? I recall having to double-check permissions

Re: LC Server on DreamHost?

2014-11-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Scott Rossi wrote: Unfortunately, I¹m still having no luck getting LC server to run. The test page provided with the RunRev lesson doesn¹t render with the server calculated values, so something¹s not working. Is this maybe a permissions thing? I recall having to double-check permissions of

Re: LC Server on DreamHost?

2014-11-17 Thread Scott Rossi
Thanks for your continued help :-) I’ve been in WTF land for like a day now. I tried configuring using the basic .htaccess that is supplied by RunRev in their lesson and the original .htaccess that I was using before all these problems. If I use the old configuration, it prevents the operation

Re: LC Server on DreamHost?

2014-11-17 Thread Richard Gaskin
Scott Rossi wrote: I’ve never used a terminal with the server ― not sure how to do that. Log into yourDH control panel and under Accounts make sure your account has shell access (SSH) turned on. IMNSHO no web hosting account without shell access is worth the trouble of trying to use,

Re: LC Server on DreamHost?

2014-11-17 Thread stephen barncard
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: To change directories use cd: cd somedomain.com/cgi-bin From there you can use chmod, or run the server executable using the example I gave before. With all due respect - the problem here is getting livecode

Re: Setting up LC Server on Dreamhost

2013-07-24 Thread Peter Bogdanoff
Thanks, Stephen. Following your example, I changed the permissions and then moved the .htaccess file to the right directory. Now I see the HTML source displayed in the browser. Is the Dreamhost configuration set up by default to use .htaccess files? Or do I need to contact their tech support?

Re: Setting up LC Server on Dreamhost

2013-07-24 Thread stephen barncard
Andre and I have only been able to get LCS to work at each domain level, not the server level. There are TWO .htaccess files, btw. Email me directly for my successful versions. The location and installation of Apache is somewhat mysterious and appears to be virtualized or changed in some way by

Re: Setting up LC Server on Dreamhost

2013-07-24 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter Bogdanoff wrote: I see from the Apache website that .htaccess files are not ideal; better to change the server main configuration file. Do you recall what their complaints were? URL? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com

Re: Setting up LC Server on Dreamhost

2013-07-24 Thread Peter Bogdanoff
You should avoid using .htaccess files completely if you have access to httpd main server config file. Using .htaccess files slows down your Apache http server. Any directive that you can include in a .htaccess file is better set in a Directory block, as it will have the same effect with better

Re: Setting up LC Server on Dreamhost

2013-07-24 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter Bogdanoff wrote: You should avoid using .htaccess files completely if you have access to httpd main server config file. Using .htaccess files slows down your Apache http server. Any directive that you can include in a .htaccess file is better set in a Directory block, as it will have

Setting up LC Server on Dreamhost

2013-07-23 Thread Peter Bogdanoff
Hi, Having seen the recommendations from the list, I now have a dedicated server with Dreamhost that I've been using to serve audio files. Now, I'm going a step further and want to start working with LiveCode server. However, I've never configured a server and I'm finding the RunRev online

Re: Setting up LC Server on Dreamhost

2013-07-23 Thread stephen barncard
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Peter Bogdanoff bogdan...@me.com wrote: Can anyone give me give me pointers or send me somewhere...? you probably need to set the permissions. http://fulton.barncard.com/downloads/LIVECODE_SERVER_SETUP.pdf -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more

Re: Setting up LC Server on Dreamhost

2013-07-23 Thread stephen barncard
a dedicated server is not required - the .htaccess method works with shared servers at DH. a lot of options are available using htaccess. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:44 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Peter Bogdanoff