Re: How to get the path to the 'My Livecode' or the plugins folder?

2021-03-31 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
luginsPath & "Navigator.rev" into tFilePath >>> go stack tFilePath >>> go stack (the defaultStack) >>> end mouseUp >>> >>> >>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode >>> mailto:use-livecode@lists

Re: How to get the path to the 'My Livecode' or the plugins folder?

2021-03-31 Thread scott--- via use-livecode
(the defaultStack) >> end mouseUp >> >> >> On Mar 29, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode >> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: >> >> On 3/29/21 4:06 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: >> Dear all, >>

Re: How to get the path to the 'My Livecode' or the plugins folder?

2021-03-31 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
tPluginsPath & "Navigator.rev" into tFilePath > go stack tFilePath > go stack (the defaultStack) > end mouseUp > > > On Mar 29, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: > > On 3/29/21 4:06 PM

Re: How to get the path to the 'My Livecode' or the plugins folder?

2021-03-31 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
get the path to the 'My Livecode' or the 'Plugins' folder? >> Searched now for more than 40 minutes and did not find anything about it? >> Is there maybe a hidden variable / property available for this? > > Not well documented, but... > > put revEnviro

Re: How to get the path to the 'My Livecode' or the plugins folder?

2021-03-30 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
v" into tFilePath go stack tFilePath go stack (the defaultStack) end mouseUp On Mar 29, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: On 3/29/21 4:06 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: Dear all, is there a way to get the path to

Re: How to get the path to the 'My Livecode' or the plugins folder?

2021-03-29 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 3/29/21 4:06 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: Dear all, is there a way to get the path to the 'My Livecode' or the 'Plugins' folder? Searched now for more than 40 minutes and did not find anything about it? Is there maybe a hidden variable / property avail

Re: How to get the path to the 'My Livecode' or the plugins folder?

2021-03-29 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
, but if you know you have a particular plugin installed, then you > can do > > put the filename of stack "4wDevo" into tmp > > and work from there; e.g. I get > > /Users/alextweedly/Dropbox (Personal)/My Livecode/Plugins/4wDevo.livecode > > Alex. > &g

Re: How to get the path to the 'My Livecode' or the plugins folder?

2021-03-29 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
Not pretty, but if you know you have a particular plugin installed, then you can do put the filename of stack "4wDevo" into tmp and work from there; e.g. I get /Users/alextweedly/Dropbox (Personal)/My Livecode/Plugins/4wDevo.livecode Alex. On 30/03/2021 00:06, matthias reb

How to get the path to the 'My Livecode' or the plugins folder?

2021-03-29 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Dear all, is there a way to get the path to the 'My Livecode' or the 'Plugins' folder? Searched now for more than 40 minutes and did not find anything about it? Is there maybe a hidden variable / property available for this? Regards Matthias - Matthias Rebbe Life Is

RE: [ANN] Release 9.0.3 RC-1 - Plugins are listed in PB after loading a stack

2019-02-26 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Behalf Of Mark Wieder via use-livecode Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 12:56 PM To: panagiotis merakos via use-livecode Cc: Mark Wieder Subject: Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.3 RC-1 - Plugins are listed in PB after loading a stack On 2/26/19 1:58 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: > H

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.3 RC-1 - Plugins are listed in PB after loading a stack

2019-02-26 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
for an ordered loading of plugins based on their names, vs the random order now. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.3 RC-1 - Plugins are listed in PB after loading a stack

2019-02-26 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
Panos, i´ve added a comment to my bug. I´ve reverted revStartCenterBehavior.livecodesript to its previous version and tested. The behaviour does not show up after that. So it seems the bug is related to your mentioned change. At least i can use 9.0.3 now. ;) Regards, Matthias > Am 26.02.20

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.3 RC-1 - Plugins are listed in PB after loading a stack

2019-02-26 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
. > >> > >> After a fresh start of the IDE the Project Browser shows no stack. So > >> that is okay, as the option 'Show IDE stacks in list' is disabled. > >> > >> When creating a new stack the PB just shows that stack. So that is also >

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.3 RC-1 - Plugins are listed in PB after loading a stack

2019-02-26 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
So >> that is okay, as the option 'Show IDE stacks in list' is disabled. >> >> When creating a new stack the PB just shows that stack. So that is also >> okay. >> >> But after opening an existing stack, the PB lists not only that stack, but >&g

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.3 RC-1 - Plugins are listed in PB after loading a stack

2019-02-26 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
; > When creating a new stack the PB just shows that stack. So that is also > okay. > > But after opening an existing stack, the PB lists not only that stack, but > many of my Plugins, although they are configured to be opened by the plugin > menu, and none of the IDE stacks is li

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.3 RC-1 - Plugins are listed in PB after loading a stack

2019-02-26 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
opening an existing stack, the PB lists not only that stack, but many of my Plugins, although they are configured to be opened by the plugin menu, and none of the IDE stacks is listed, just plugins. I´v upload a screenshot of the listed plugins to my Droplr account: http://d.qck.biz/nze

Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

2019-02-12 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Folks: Just in case you are getting the same "invalid bsd flags ….” when you try to do a disc first aid using disk utility, on your Macintosh SSD boot drive, it turns out that the recent versions of OneDrive are causing that error. I found that the error only occurs on the SSD drive. If I boot f

Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

2019-02-11 Thread JJS via use-livecode
Hi Rick, well it was a year or 2 back, there was a message that it would send device info and god knows what else data back to them(not just virus info), which i could not decline other then get rid of it. Maybe in the meanwhile, with the GDPR stuff, they've changed it. But it was the reason

Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

2019-02-11 Thread Rick Harrison via use-livecode
Hi JJS, Could you please elaborate on this point? It seems to me that any anti-virus is not privacy safe as they all check every file on your computer system for viruses, and usually share such information back to the company so they can continue to improve their product. Thanks, Rick > On Feb

Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

2019-02-11 Thread Rick Harrison via use-livecode
Richard, Yes I noticed it was Linux, so supposedly LiveCode could run on it. I was just hoping for a confirmation from someone. If I get a Librem laptop I suppose I can answer the question myself, and thankfully cut out the middle man. Doh, I guess that would be you. ;-) (If I were to get rich s

Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

2019-02-11 Thread JJS via use-livecode
Note that Avast is not privacy safe. On 11-02-19 01:21, Rick Harrison via use-livecode wrote: Hi Bill, Try Avast! https://www.avast.com/en-us/index#mac Rick On Feb 10, 2019, at 6:04 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode wrote: Problem solved, but f

Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

2019-02-11 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
It's a Linux so one could, though the world's a big place so it's hard to be sure if anyone actually is. If you'd like to have a Librem laptop sent to my office I'll be able to answer that question affirmatively. :) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Rick Harrison wrote: > > Richard,

Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

2019-02-11 Thread Rick Harrison via use-livecode
Richard, Is anyone running LiveCode on it yet? Rick > On Feb 11, 2019, at 12:47 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > Upgrade to one of the most secure OSes on the planet: > https://www.qubes-os.org/ > > But why run it on stock hardware when you can ha

Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

2019-02-11 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
+1 I know Windows people sometimes think this is a bit reckless, bordering on arrogant, but facts is facts as they say, and for whatever reason, MacOS has very few exploits, and all that I have seen require the end user to do something foolish, like click OK in a dialog which they have no reason

Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

2019-02-10 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
William Prothero wrote: > I’m a bit afraid to leave off a virus protection program though. > Anybody have recommendations? Upgrade to one of the most secure OSes on the planet: https://www.qubes-os.org/ But why run it on stock hardware when you can have the world's most secure laptop for under

Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

2019-02-10 Thread Rick Harrison via use-livecode
Hi Bill, Try Avast! https://www.avast.com/en-us/index#mac Rick > On Feb 10, 2019, at 6:04 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode > wrote: > > Problem solved, but first: > I found that BitDefender kept deleting the “Safe Application” setting for > “Live

Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

2019-02-10 Thread Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
"I’m a bit afraid to leave off a virus protection program though. Anybody have recommendations?" most likely you don't need one. I have never used one on a mac since 1983. Just practice safe computing. -- Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - mixstream.org On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 3:05 PM Will

Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

2019-02-10 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Problem solved, but first: I found that BitDefender kept deleting the “Safe Application” setting for “Livecode Business 9.0.2”, so it blocked writing to the Devo Prefs file. The OS wouldn’t let me delete the library files associated with BitDefender. I also found that there were un-fixable error

Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

2019-02-10 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
Guess I waited until the right time to go from 10.12 to 10.14 :grin: I’ll be doing that upgrade in the next couple weeks. Thanks, Brian On Feb 10, 2019, 7:49 AM -0500, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode , wrote: > Little story: Yesterday, early the morning, I was on 10.4.2. "Sadly" I >

Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

2019-02-10 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Little story: Yesterday, early the morning, I was on 10.4.2. "Sadly" I thought Navigator would not save preferences. Went back to work, thinking the IDE has lost some globals, or messages, it crashes for me all the time now, at least once a day. No point sending in reports, Panos says "cannot

Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

2019-02-08 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
> On Feb 8, 2019, at 8:28 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > Rick Harrison wrote: > > > 3. I would also reinstall macOS if I were you. > > It may not be so bad. Let's see what his plugins path is first. > > If he's using LC's plu

Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

2019-02-08 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Rick Harrison wrote: > 3. I would also reinstall macOS if I were you. It may not be so bad. Let's see what his plugins path is first. If he's using LC's plugins folder rather than a custom one, that would explain the behavior, no? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World System

Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

2019-02-08 Thread Rick Harrison via use-livecode
> data, with a livecode script, to the Plugins folder so I am really stuck and > out of ideas. > > This is very puzzling. Has anybody else seen this behavior? > > Best, > Bill ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.ru

Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

2019-02-08 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
William Prothero wrote: > Folks: > Livecode 9.0.2 business Mac OSX 10.14.2 > > I can’t figure this out. I’m having problems with LiveCode Plugins > writing prefs to the Plugins folder on my Mac. None of the prefs > for the extensions are able to update. At first, I thought

Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

2019-02-08 Thread Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 2:55 PM William Prothero via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Folks: > Livecode 9.0.2 business Mac OSX 10.14.2 > I'm also on 10.14.2 and I'm not seeing this with Navigator. (or other plugins) Sorry I don't

Re: Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

2019-02-08 Thread hh via use-livecode
Bill, I had severe problems when starting with MacOS 10.14. As I know now these were mostly permission problems. The Apple security hystery may help to that. I still have some files of zero size that are not deletable and change their name. I think this is caused by MacOS. But meanwhile I'm runni

Weird LiveCode Plugins Prefs writing problems

2019-02-08 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Folks: Livecode 9.0.2 business Mac OSX 10.14.2 I can’t figure this out. I’m having problems with LiveCode Plugins writing prefs to the Plugins folder on my Mac. None of the prefs for the extensions are able to update. At first, I thought it was a problem with 4WDevolution, but now it’s with

Where is the Plugins folder documented?

2017-04-30 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
I find myself often needing to explain how to set up the user Plugins folder and why LC has two such folders. This morning I figured it might make more sense to just refer folks to the appropriate section of the User Guide, but I could find no such explanation there. Then I thought I'

Re: Plugins vs. the Mac app bundle

2016-04-13 Thread Paul Hibbert
> On Apr 13, 2016, at 9:57 AM, Richard Gaskin > wrote: > > If you want to share your code here I'll bet we can pin down which part > triggers the "dirty" flag. > > Since you've already scripted your changes, having them run in a plugin on > startup rather than attempting to alter the bundle

Re: Plugins vs. the Mac app bundle

2016-04-13 Thread Richard Gaskin
Paul Hibbert wrote: >> But frankly, even then I'd think twice about modifying signed files. >> Bypassing security is rarely advantageous. > > I wasn’t making the changes to bypass any security issues, I just > wanted to modify the menus slightly, I didn’t even think about code > signing and didn’

Re: Plugins vs. the Mac app bundle

2016-04-12 Thread Paul Hibbert
Thank you for your reply Richard, I’ll try some answers… > Well, if you want to truly own your computer there's always Ubuntu, or any > other Linux. :) > > Apple and Microsoft are proprietary systems. They each make a fine OS, but > to use it you play by their rules. In terms of the UX, it's m

Re: Plugins vs. the Mac app bundle

2016-04-12 Thread Scott Rossi
At least one reason: one of the more significantly needed user-modifications is the ability to disable UIApplicationExitsOnSuspend in the iOS pList settings. Is this now an option in v8? I don't see it in dp16 but maybe I'm missing it. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI

Re: Plugins vs. the Mac app bundle

2016-04-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
On 12/04/2016 17:08, Paul Hibbert wrote: > Peter, > > Does this affect solutions such as the one posted here: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17292 - Comment 6? > > I’m curious because I usually modify the revMenuBar stack to add > in my own preferred shortcuts, there are also people

Re: Plugins vs. the Mac app bundle

2016-04-12 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 12/04/2016 17:08, Paul Hibbert wrote: Peter, Does this affect solutions such as the one posted here: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17292 - Comment 6? I’m curious because I usually modify the revMenuBar stack to add in my own preferred shortcuts, there are also people like Ric

Re: Plugins vs. the Mac app bundle

2016-04-12 Thread Paul Hibbert
icons etc., so I’m assuming this type of activity will also break code signing validity. Kind Regards, Paul On Apr 12, 2016, at 2:14 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > > > Hi all, > > There seems to some confusion about plugins/extensions and the OS X > installation method fo

Plugins vs. the Mac app bundle

2016-04-12 Thread Peter TB Brett
Hi all, There seems to some confusion about plugins/extensions and the OS X installation method for the LiveCode IDE. Some OS X APIs require the app bundle to be validly signed. Incorrect signatures have previously manifested themselves in horrible ways, including extreme delays when

Re: Debugging plugins

2015-01-14 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 11:22 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > The simplest thing might be to temporarily rename your plugin without the > "rev" prefix while you're working on it. This gives me the opportunity to use my favorite phrase from an Apple commercial: "What, was I in thinking jail?" Apart

Re: Debugging plugins

2015-01-14 Thread Mark Wieder
Pete- Wednesday, January 14, 2015, 1:50:53 PM, you wrote: > Thanks Mark. > What I mean is, if errors in the revxxx stack are ignored (I assume that > means runtime errors?), is there some other way that the stack can > determine that they happened so they can be handled more gracefully? Kinda >

Re: Debugging plugins

2015-01-14 Thread Peter Haworth
Thanks Mark. What I mean is, if errors in the revxxx stack are ignored (I assume that means runtime errors?), is there some other way that the stack can determine that they happened so they can be handled more gracefully? Kinda like an error in a try/catch loop. Pete lcSQL Software

Re: Debugging plugins

2015-01-14 Thread Mark Wieder
Pete- Wednesday, January 14, 2015, 10:18:46 AM, you wrote: > If I understand this correctly, if a stack name begins with rev and > gRevDevelopment is false, any runtime errors in it are ignored? That's any > stack, not just IDE stacks? That is correct. > I don't suppose this would also enable s

Re: Debugging plugins

2015-01-14 Thread Peter Haworth
u wrote: > > > global gRevDevelopment;put true into gRevDevelopment enables breakpoints > in > > plugins, but in 6.7 at least seems to completely break the variable panel > > in the debugger. > > Yeah. What Jacque said. > The downside of setting gRevDevelopment to true

Re: Debugging plugins

2015-01-14 Thread Mark Wieder
Geoff- Wednesday, January 14, 2015, 8:26:15 AM, you wrote: > global gRevDevelopment;put true into gRevDevelopment enables breakpoints in > plugins, but in 6.7 at least seems to completely break the variable panel > in the debugger. Yeah. What Jacque said. The downside of setting gRevDe

Re: Debugging plugins

2015-01-14 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/14/2015 10:26 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote: Thanks to those who suggested Script Debug Mode and breakpoint. In plugins, neither of those allows setting a breakpoint that will work. global gRevDevelopment;put true into gRevDevelopment enables breakpoints in plugins, but in 6.7 at least seems to

Re: Debugging plugins

2015-01-14 Thread Geoff Canyon
Thanks to those who suggested Script Debug Mode and breakpoint. In plugins, neither of those allows setting a breakpoint that will work. global gRevDevelopment;put true into gRevDevelopment enables breakpoints in plugins, but in 6.7 at least seems to completely break the variable panel in the

Re: Debugging plugins

2015-01-08 Thread Mark Talluto
On Jan 5, 2015, at 8:16 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote: > I have a vague recollection of there being a way to get breakpoints to work > in "rev" stacks. I thought it was a preference setting, but I don't see it. > Anyone know what the setting/property is for that? There is a menu item labeled‘Script

Re: Debugging plugins

2015-01-05 Thread Bjoernke von Gierke
I think your question is a bit vague? Here's two possible answers: 1. There's a way to insert your own breakpoints without using the script editor GUI. there's a 'breakpoint command', I suggest to look it up in the dictionary. 2. If you disabled debugging mode in the script editor, then you can'

Re: Debugging plugins

2015-01-05 Thread Mark Wieder
Geoff- Monday, January 5, 2015, 8:16:44 AM, you wrote: > I have a vague recollection of there being a way to get breakpoints to work > in "rev" stacks. I thought it was a preference setting, but I don't see it. > Anyone know what the setting/property is for that? global gRevDevelopment;put true

Debugging plugins

2015-01-05 Thread Geoff Canyon
I have a vague recollection of there being a way to get breakpoints to work in "rev" stacks. I thought it was a preference setting, but I don't see it. Anyone know what the setting/property is for that? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.run

Re: Plugins folder issue

2014-11-21 Thread Peter Haworth
i, Nov 21, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: > Today, I did some testing with LC 7.0. I carefully copied the contents of > my user plugins folder to a different folder then set the 7.0 preference > for the Plugins folder to a different folder than I use for pre-7.0. > > After f

Plugins folder issue

2014-11-21 Thread Peter Haworth
Today, I did some testing with LC 7.0. I carefully copied the contents of my user plugins folder to a different folder then set the 7.0 preference for the Plugins folder to a different folder than I use for pre-7.0. After finishing 7.0 testing, I went back to 6.6.2 and none of my user plugins

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-11 Thread Alejandro Tejada
http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OFF-Cool-Plugins-tp4679272p4679388.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, u

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-11 Thread Richmond
On 11/05/14 22:18, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Hi Richard, Could you ask RunRev to consider using an open source web-based translation platform to translated LiveCode dictionary, docs, guides and tutorials? 1) https://www.transifex.com 2) https://launchpad.net 3) http://pootle.translatehouse.org/in

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-11 Thread Alejandro Tejada
://openbuildservice.org 6) http://zanata.org 7) http://otrance.de/en/ Thanks in advance! Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OFF-Cool-Plugins-tp4679272p4679383.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-11 Thread Robert Mann
Hi I would be happy to help advance the tools we have to share plugins etc... I've never "co-worker" in an open source thingy, so I would not be an initiator but a follower. How does such a group get constituted? Could something like *LOOMIO* provide a first group backbone?

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-11 Thread Alex Tweedly
That's great news. Thank you ! Even if it can't be installed on a shared server, it should still be usable from a private one - and therefore usable for many people. Most importantly, if it can be installed on a local server for development & testing then that would be the way to go. The old o

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-10 Thread Mike Kerner
Sounds like a wiki - even though, IMHO, wikis suck. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Richmond wrote: > On 10/05/14 21:24, Marc Van Cauwenberghe wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I would like to broaden the discussion to all livecode knowledge being >> easily available. >> >> There are stack being scattered

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-10 Thread Mike Kerner
I can't even remember them because once it was obvious that nobody was looking at them, I stopped working on them, so it's been more than a year, I would bet. On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Mike Kerner wrote: > > ...For instance, community contributions to the > > > do

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Alex Tweedly wrote: > The other area I'm even more interested in is RunRev's other major > "orphan" - the on-rev client, and LCServer live debugger. That was a > great idea - and the debugger still has the potential to be a unique > advantage for LC server; unfortunately, the original on-rev clie

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-10 Thread Alex Tweedly
On 10/05/2014 16:07, Richard Gaskin wrote: How this applies to what we currently call "RevOnline" is something we'll have to figure out, but I think it's very encouraging that just is in this one thread we have several people willing to help. ... I'll make that the focus of my next meeting

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mike Kerner wrote: > ...For instance, community contributions to the > documentation is supposed to be included, but it > does not seem to happen. Ostensibly there's a process for this, with style guidance as well:

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-10 Thread Richmond
On 10/05/14 21:41, Vaughn Clement wrote: Hi I was talking to a senior developer today in the UK, and it is clear that this email "How To" is good, but it would be much better if it was a subject based forum that can be searched for answers. I know that RunRev has a forum for this purpose and it

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-10 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi I was talking to a senior developer today in the UK, and it is clear that this email "How To" is good, but it would be much better if it was a subject based forum that can be searched for answers. I know that RunRev has a forum for this purpose and it could serve this purpose. The question is i

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-10 Thread Richmond
On 10/05/14 21:24, Marc Van Cauwenberghe wrote: Hi, I would like to broaden the discussion to all livecode knowledge being easily available. There are stack being scattered over tons of different sites. Somebody (who ?) has to assemble a master page (preferably hosted on RunRev's site) that

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-10 Thread Marc Van Cauwenberghe
Hi, I would like to broaden the discussion to all livecode knowledge being easily available. There are stack being scattered over tons of different sites. Articles like the one 'Extending the Livecode Message Path’ I only found after spending months with Livecode. A good search engine that in

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-10 Thread Earthednet-wp
I completely agree. Naive or new users can provide invaluable input to documentation authors. Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org > > > Being here asking questions is a valuable contribution in itself. For every > question posted here there are many subscribers who had the same q

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Vaughn Clement wrote: I see your request for assistance as needed and I would like to help, but based on my limited LC experience I would hinder the progress. I am responding just to say we hear your request, and want to help. I do have an ongoing need to see a better documentation system for use

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-10 Thread J. Landman Gay
I'd say you are in an ideal position to be the eyes of the volunteer team. The documentation is far too extensive to find problems easily. A person who can report the entries that are confusing or outdated would be of tremendous help. You wouldn't have to fix them, just tell folks where to lo

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-10 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi Richard I see your request for assistance as needed and I would like to help, but based on my limited LC experience I would hinder the progress. I am responding just to say we hear your request, and want to help. I do have an ongoing need to see a better documentation system for users (new user

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
BNig wrote: RevOnline/ User Samples does work very well for me in 6.6.2 RC3. It is working in 6.7 DP3, not working in 6.6.1 and 7.0 DP3 The problem seems to be that hanging/not working is different for different users and the bug(s) are difficult to reproduce. But I hope it is getting there. ht

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
TL/DR version: there are challenges, but improving the state of stack file sharing is doable, esp. with community participation. Longer version for folks with too much time on their hands: Björnke von Gierke wrote: > Yes, and every time the community starts to talk business about this, > someo

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-10 Thread Björnke von Gierke
Alright here's a first version of a category management stack, including some 'dummy' example stack interface elements, to show off how it works. It's mostly a way to avoid category clutter right now. http://bjoernke.com/temp/Category_test.rev On 10 May 2014, at 10:07, Björnke von Gierke wrot

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-10 Thread Richmond
On 10/05/14 06:40, Mark Wieder wrote: Richard- Friday, May 9, 2014, 8:15:13 PM, you wrote: If we could work out a way to share the work on this with RunRev, anyone here interested in rolling up their sleeves to help? You mean trying to work with a rev team that spent six months ignoring the f

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-10 Thread Richmond
On 10/05/14 06:15, Richard Gaskin wrote: Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Friday, May 9, 2014, 12:38:36 PM, you wrote: But RevOnline is rather erratic . . . You're being too kind. At one point Heather assured me that revOnline was about to be replaced with something better, or at least differe

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-10 Thread Björnke von Gierke
On 10 May 2014, at 05:40, Mark Wieder wrote: > Friday, May 9, 2014, 8:15:13 PM, you wrote: >> If we could work out a way to share the work on this with RunRev, anyone >> here interested in rolling up their sleeves to help? > You mean trying to work with a rev team that spent six months ignoring >

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-10 Thread BNig
://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11387 So they are working on it, why not add to the bug report if it is not working for you in 6.6.2 RC3 and up. Kind regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OFF-Cool-Plugins-tp4679272p4679337.html Sent from the

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-10 Thread Scott Rossi
I'd be up for contributing. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design > On May 9, 2014, at 8:15 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > There have been some bug fixes, but the longer-term plans are queued for > after some of the other things get done first (Cocoa, Unicode, etc.).

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-10 Thread Terence Heaford
As a newcomer here, just tried it for the very first time, it crashed and locked up LIveCode. Not a good advert. All the best Terry On 10 May 2014, at 04:15, Richard Gaskin wrote: > There have been some bug fixes, but the longer-term plans are queued for > after some of the other things ge

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-09 Thread Charles E Buchwald
Count me in. Sounds like a way that I could contribute to the community and learn so interesting things about tools and plugins at the same time... On 09 May 2014, at 10:15 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > If we could work out a way to share the work on this with RunRev, anyone here > inte

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-09 Thread Mike Kerner
Richard, Let's start a group to discuss, and it should be more community than core team. The core team is a little lax on a variety of things, probably because responsibilities are not clear and expectations are not followed-up on. For instance, community contributions to the documentation is sup

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Friday, May 9, 2014, 8:15:13 PM, you wrote: > If we could work out a way to share the work on this with RunRev, anyone > here interested in rolling up their sleeves to help? You mean trying to work with a rev team that spent six months ignoring the fact that nobody could log into revOnl

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-09 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Friday, May 9, 2014, 12:38:36 PM, you wrote: But RevOnline is rather erratic . . . You're being too kind. At one point Heather assured me that revOnline was about to be replaced with something better, or at least different. If that happened in the last couple of

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond- Friday, May 9, 2014, 12:38:36 PM, you wrote: > But RevOnline is rather erratic . . . You're being too kind. At one point Heather assured me that revOnline was about to be replaced with something better, or at least different. If that happened in the last couple of years I missed the ne

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-09 Thread Charles E Buchwald
I agree with you there, Mike. I like the _idea_ of RevOnline, but I wish it was better curated. Not to censor anything, just to be better organized. The categories are a mess. Note that there are reviews and ratings already. The WordPress plugin directory is a good example of system that accomm

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-09 Thread Mike Kerner
That was sort of why I made the first post, because I stumbled on those two and said "Are you kidding me? Why haven't I seen anything about these?" I'd like to see the tools/add-ons/etc. not just be in a jumbled-up mess of a list, but have more of an app store type of setup with reviews, categori

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-09 Thread Richmond
On 09/05/14 22:33, Richard Gaskin wrote: Alejandro Tejada wrote: Does exists a visual directory of all stacks published in all these mail lists and forums? Ostensibly that's what RevOnline is for. so everyone can have access to all shared resources right in the IDE. But RevOnline is rathe

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-09 Thread Richard Gaskin
Alejandro Tejada wrote: Does exists a visual directory of all stacks published in all these mail lists and forums? Ostensibly that's what RevOnline is for. so everyone can have access to all shared resources right in the IDE. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-09 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Charles E Buchwald wrote > I've made a lot of those single purpose tools. Many of them were part of > my learning about LiveCode. > But I've realized how easy it is to make my own plugins, and to share > them. I've put a few on my website. I have a few more on the way. &

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-09 Thread Charles E Buchwald
I've made a lot of those single purpose tools. Many of them were part of my learning about LiveCode. But I've realized how easy it is to make my own plugins, and to share them. I've put a few on my website. I have a few more on the way. I'd like to see more of us publishing s

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-08 Thread Alejandro Tejada
e now. > [snip] I have the sensation that LiveCode developers have a lot more of custom tools, plugins and stacks created for a single purpose or project. After used these "single purpose" tools are stored or discarded forever... :o Al -- View this message in context: http://r

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-08 Thread Charles E Buchwald
Thanks for this, Scott! I'll look forward to them... On 08 May 2014, at 5:06 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > Mike is quite kind. > > I need to update a number of these tool things, and will make a public > announcement when they're available. > > Best Regards, > > Scott Rossi > Creative Director > T

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