Re: Counting Syllables

I am actually having trouble finding a dictionary “dump” that would provide a list of words along with a syllabic entry attached. If such a thing exists, we only need a dozen lines of code and ten minutes to create a database mapping each word to its syllable count. Anyone know of such a

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Yes, I’m looking into that. Web-scraping isn’t fun though, and it can be a lot of work. One also has to make sure it doesn’t violate company policies etc. I’m not a fan of getting sued. Rick > On Mar 24, 2022, at 1:55 AM, Dick Kriesel via use-livecode > wrote: > > You could scrape an

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> On Mar 22, 2022, at 7:25 AM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode > wrote: > > An existing database would make things a lot easier. You could scrape an online dictionary to obtain the syllabification for each given word. For example, if you investigate

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That's because the British take 1.46 times as long as Americans to say anything. ;-) Bob S > On Mar 22, 2022, at 15:21 , Craig Newman via use-livecode > wrote: > > Brian. > > Storage space should not be an issue. A typical dictionary , whether American > (191,000) or British (280,000),

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Brian. Storage space should not be an issue. A typical dictionary , whether American (191,000) or British (280,000), with a median word length of about 8 chars, still only occupies a handful of MB of storage. Craig > On Mar 22, 2022, at 10:25 AM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode > wrote: >

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Yes, that is where I’m at. An existing database would make things a lot easier. Rick > On Mar 22, 2022, at 9:06 AM, Craig Newman via use-livecode > wrote: > > If you have a database at all, it would cost nothing much in speed to just > use the whole thing all the time. Put the database into

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True about speed, but I was more thinking about storage space and tolerance to missing words. A complete dictionary would likely be faster. Brian Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 22, 2022, at 9:07 AM, Craig Newman via use-livecode > wrote: > > If you have a database at all, it would cost

Re: Counting Syllables

If you have a database at all, it would cost nothing much in speed to just use the whole thing all the time. Put the database into an array, of the form: “cat 1” "chicken 2” “elephant 3” ‘miaou 1" … The hard part is finding that database. It would take quite a while to build and finalize your

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I’ve tried a bunch of things. It’s 80-90% correct, but failing 10-20% of the time due to irregulars isn’t acceptable. I think I have to look into a database table lookup solution, but I’m dreading it. Thanks, Rick > On Mar 21, 2022, at 4:18 PM, Craig Newman via use-livecode > wrote: > >

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Such cases are rare, certainly, but “queue” comes to mind. I am sure that a vowel parsing routine will be reasonably accurate, but not perfect, as per the previous example. A quick search did not turn up any “list of all words and their syllable count”, but there still might be one. One site

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“miaou” has 4 consecutive vowels so I’m not surprised it has 2 syllables. That may be a rule. The average person uses about 20,000 words on a regular basis. They know about 40,000 visually. It’s estimated there are about 1.25 million english words, but a lot of those are scientific terms.

Re: Counting Syllables

I would think one would need a database that maps all words with the number of syllables in those words. I am sure some sort of algorithm would do a creditable job, but I bet it would not do a perfect job. For example, and embedded “eau” is usually one syllable, but a word such as “miaou” is

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I found this: https://www.dcc-cde.ca.gov/professionaldev/events/documents/syllabication-packet-2021-04.pdf I’m not sure how comprehensive it is yet, but it has me thinking! I tried looking up

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Hi Richmond, Yes, I came across syllablecounter.net which only intrigued me more. Unfortunately it reports the word triangle has 2 syllables which is incorrect. Any dictionary will tell you triangle has 3 syllables. Is there a rule for that or is it just an exception to some rule? Perhaps

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Hi Colin, Thanks for sharing this. I’m reading it now! Rick > On Mar 20, 2022, at 3:12 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode > wrote: > > This post goes over some techniques: > > https://mholtzscher.github.io/2018/05/29/syllables/ > >

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Frankly I'd go for isolated vowels (I, A), Vowel+ Consonant (In, On, An), and Consonant+ Vowel (La, Lo, Fi), you also have a problem with the semi-vowel Y, and the semi-vowel U ( 'yu' as un Union, and 'u' as in Utter). This is pretty impressive: https://syllablecounter.net/count I gave it

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This post goes over some techniques: https://mholtzscher.github.io/2018/05/29/syllables/ > On Mar 20, 2022, at 12:51 PM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi Richmond, > > Yes, English. Sorry I forgot to be specific, I

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Hi Richmond, Yes, English. Sorry I forgot to be specific, I thought it was implied. Yes, I have been counting vowels, but there appear to be a lot of exceptions, so there must be a lot more rules. I need to know what all the rules are to make it work if possible. There are websites out there

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Well, syllables are language dependent, so let's suppose for the moment that you are ONLY working with English, the, presumably, you can set up vowels as item-delimiters: although you might get a bit mixed up with words sucj as 'beautiful' which, while having 5 vowels only has 3 syllables.