Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

Not to stir up a firestorm, but the vast majority of the refugees are younger males typically without families. As always, there is more to the story than anyone is being told. Bob S On Nov 4, 2015, at 22:31 , Richmond > wrote:

Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Er... wait... there's a stable 7.1.1 release? > If there is, is there somewhere we can download? :) -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode

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On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 3:44 AM, Richmond wrote: > > To be honest I haven't looked in the stable for a while: last time I was > there there were 4 horses, 17 cows and an awful lot of rather smelly > straw from fouled winter bedding. > > The way transients are

Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

On 05/11/15 03:38, stephen barncard wrote: On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: The way transients are streaming through Europe um... they are refugees... still are people... -- Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words

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On 05/11/15 02:42, Kay C Lan wrote: On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 3:44 AM, Richmond wrote: To be honest I haven't looked in the stable for a while: last time I was there there were 4 horses, 17 cows and an awful lot of rather smelly straw from fouled winter bedding. The

Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

On 04/11/15 19:06, Mark Wieder wrote: On 11/04/2015 06:57 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Agreed. The v7.1.1 Stable release should not be altered. Er... wait... there's a stable 7.1.1 release? To be honest I haven't looked in the stable for a while: last time I was there there were 4 horses,

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Peter TB Brett wrote: > On 2015-11-03 21:47, Dr. Hawkins wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Ali Lloyd wrote: >> >>> *SSL Support for PostgreSQL Connections* >> >> Ooooh. >> >> Is this one going to back-port into 7? > > At the moment, there are no plans for a backport. It's probably not >

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On 11/04/2015 06:57 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Agreed. The v7.1.1 Stable release should not be altered. Clearly it should go in v7.2. LOL -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please

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On 11/04/2015 06:57 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Agreed. The v7.1.1 Stable release should not be altered. Er... wait... there's a stable 7.1.1 release? -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

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> At the moment, there are no plans for a backport. It's probably not a good > idea anyway -- adding new features to a "stable" release series is a frequent > cause of regressions and unhappy users. Is it still an external? If so, we could try at our own risk if it would work with 7. As 8 is

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On 2015-11-04 09:20, Malte Brill wrote: Is it still an external? If so, we could try at our own risk if it would work with 7. As 8 is still a bit down the road this might come in handy… It is 'just' the dbpostgres driver which has changed - so, yes, you are more than welcome to try that.

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On 2015-11-03 21:47, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Ali Lloyd wrote: *SSL Support for PostgreSQL Connections* Ooooh. Is this one going to back-port into 7? At the moment, there are no plans for a backport. It's probably not a good idea

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On 03/11/15 21:18, Mark Waddingham wrote: On 2015-11-03 20:16, Richmond wrote: I'm not entirely sure what the benefit would be. If the window server ('the xserver') completely crashes or freezes then you can usually still get to a terminal with the above keyboard shortcut to allow you to

Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

On 2015-11-03 19:48, Richmond wrote: Just sent a bug report: Bug 16342 No: I have no clipboard manager installed. I have just attached an incredibly long, and incredibly boring list of all my installed packages to the bug report: [ dpkg

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On 2015-11-03 20:21, Richmond wrote: "clean" shutdowns, startups or restarts have never been part of my style :P Heh - I think it perhap less necessary these days due to advances in filesystems and their implementation... However, I do remember a time (many years ago) that failure to

Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

I'm afraid that just froze my Xubuntu 14.04 64-bit rig. I installed the 64-bit version as "You Only" and started LiveCode up. As soon as I clicked on one of the dropDown menus in revMenuBar everything locked up. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing

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On 2015-11-03 18:55, Mark Wieder wrote: I had high hopes for this, but it launched once, I had to kill it, and now it just hangs with "loading Menubar". No third-party anything, no old preferences file to get in the way, removed the license file. LC8-dp7 still works correctly. Looking forward to

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On 03/11/15 20:36, Mark Waddingham wrote: On 2015-11-03 19:06, Richmond wrote: I installed the 64-bit version as "You Only" and started LiveCode up. As soon as I clicked on one of the dropDown menus in revMenuBar everything locked up. When you say 'locked up' I take it you mean the entire

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On 2015-11-03 20:16, Richmond wrote: I'm not entirely sure what the benefit would be. If the window server ('the xserver') completely crashes or freezes then you can usually still get to a terminal with the above keyboard shortcut to allow you to get back to a terminal (which doesn't run in

Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

On 11/03/2015 08:13 AM, Ali Lloyd wrote: Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0 DP 8. I'm not quite so pleased. I had high hopes for this, but it launched once, I had to kill it, and now it just hangs with "loading Menubar". No third-party anything, no

Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

On 2015-11-03 20:02, Mark Wieder wrote: On 11/03/2015 10:52 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: (Same applies to Mark Wieder too - if he notices this post :)). I noticed the post, but I always install for all users. Yes - but local user accounts can hold user-specific system settings. So whilst

Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

On 2015-11-03 19:06, Richmond wrote: I installed the 64-bit version as "You Only" and started LiveCode up. As soon as I clicked on one of the dropDown menus in revMenuBar everything locked up. When you say 'locked up' I take it you mean the entire desktop? This is less than ideal :) At

Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

On 11/03/2015 10:36 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: When you say 'locked up' I take it you mean the entire desktop? In my case at least, the initial lockup took the desktop with it. Afterwards it's just LC. I can kill the process from a terminal prompt. Again, here, a list of packages you have

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On 11/03/2015 10:34 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: 2) The IDE 'Tools' log (this should be in ~/.runrev/logs IIRC). Well, now, there's something interesting. The final entry in the Tools log is: Loading Menu Bar... Enter Menus Initialisation Trying to get the platform Linux

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On 03/11/15 20:52, Mark Waddingham wrote: On 2015-11-03 19:48, Richmond wrote: Just sent a bug report: Bug 16342 No: I have no clipboard manager installed. I have just attached an incredibly long, and incredibly boring list of all my installed

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...and I'll attach the full strace log to the same bug report, but it does appear that the last real entry in there is the clipboard. poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN|POLLOUT}], 1, 4294967295) = 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLOUT}]) writev(3, [{"\20\0\5\0\t\0`\4CLIPBOARD\261\222\0", 20}, {NULL, 0}, {"",

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On 11/03/2015 10:52 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: (Same applies to Mark Wieder too - if he notices this post :)). I noticed the post, but I always install for all users. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list

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On 03/11/15 20:26, Roger Eller wrote: See if you can Ctrl-F7, or Ctrl- to initiate a full-screen terminal session. If so, login and type "init 6" or "reboot" without the quotes. ~Roger I'm not entirely sure what the benefit would be. Richmond.

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On 2015-11-03 20:23, Warren Samples wrote: OpenSUSE 64bit with KDE Plasma5. I had no troubles opening this version, but get similar behavior to that which Richmond describes ... item/action from the dropdown list performs the selected task, closes the dropdown and everything goes back to normal

Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

See if you can Ctrl-F7, or Ctrl- to initiate a full-screen terminal session. If so, login and type "init 6" or "reboot" without the quotes. ~Roger On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Richmond wrote: > I'm afraid that just froze my Xubuntu 14.04 64-bit rig. > > I

Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

On 03/11/15 20:52, Mark Waddingham wrote: On 2015-11-03 19:48, Richmond wrote: Just sent a bug report: Bug 16342 No: I have no clipboard manager installed. I have just attached an incredibly long, and incredibly boring list of all my installed

Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

On 11/03/2015 12:06 PM, Richmond wrote: As soon as I clicked on one of the dropDown menus in revMenuBar everything locked up. Richmond. OpenSUSE 64bit with KDE Plasma5. I had no troubles opening this version, but get similar behavior to that which Richmond describes here except that

Re: Release 8.0.0 DP 8

Pissing around with log files: Frankly I feel bloody silly, as, after the first run I deleted the clean user account. To get the log file I set up another clean account AND LiveCode 8.0 DP8 installed AND ran with NO obvious problems at all. All in the big report. Richmond.

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On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Ali Lloyd wrote: > *SSL Support for PostgreSQL Connections* Ooooh. Is this one going to back-port into 7? -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list