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Right, Alejandro, you asked for it . . . :)
Richmond wrote:
[snip]
Certainly in Britain (and here in Bulgaria) the end result of
Huh??
Bob
On Jul 21, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote:
Oh, bob slylabs is posting again? What a pity.
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Hi Richmmond,
Richmond Mathewson-2 wrote
Mummy and Daddy should NOT provide little Twinkle-toes
with a computer hooked up to the internet so s/he can
go blotto on online games and associated crap.
That particular phrase brings me memories of this video:
I have two issues with that statement: Worshipping and at any cost. Excuse
me, that is a mouthful. Can you cite some examples of the USA (whatever that
means specifically) worshipping as in raising up to the level of God,
successful people (I need names please) at any cost. If you are going to
Hi Bob,
I sent a private message to you about your comment.
If you want to contribute to this particular offtopic and
intriging subject, send a private message to me or Bob.
Thanks in advance!
Alejandro
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Thanks for taking it off-list!
.Jerry
On Jul 23, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Alejandro Tejada wrote:
Hi Bob,
I sent a private message to you about your comment.
If you want to contribute to this particular offtopic and
intriging subject, send a private message to me or Bob.
Thanks in advance!
snip
I will use this occasion to beg for something of the order of RunRev
2.0.1 for Mac, Win and Linux to be released for FREE; possibly with a
fair few of the capabilities removed.
Just remember that this kind of gift is not free for RunRev,
because associated cost with supporting a free
Richmmond, I had to disagree.
There is no point in releasing
an old version without support.
This could be, even damaging
to company reputation.
Software live or die depending of
the quality of support that their
developers offers.
For example Xara, the Graphic
company, used to sell previous
On 07/23/2012 09:26 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
I have two issues with that statement: Worshipping and at any cost. Excuse me, that is a mouthful. Can you cite
some examples of the USA (whatever that means specifically) worshipping as in raising up to the level of God,
successful people (I need
On 07/23/2012 09:57 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote:
Hi Bob,
I sent a private message to you about your comment.
If you want to contribute to this particular offtopic and
intriging subject, send a private message to me or Bob.
Thanks in advance!
Too late my love, you have let the cat out of the
On 07/23/2012 10:19 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote:
Richmmond, I had to disagree.
There is no point in releasing
an old version without support.
This could be, even damaging
to company reputation.
Software live or die depending of
the quality of support that their
developers offers.
For example
Ah... Linux.
That version got stalled after developers from that
platform stopped contributing to the development
of that Linux version.
Did you see what happens to a software without
support from their developers...
Alejandro
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On 07/23/2012 10:33 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote:
Ah... Linux.
That version got stalled after developers from that
platform stopped contributing to the development
of that Linux version.
Did you see what happens to a software without
support from their developers...
Personally I don't see this
Richmmond,
Richmond Mathewson-2 wrote
Personally I don't see this as a vast problem. Although I own later
versions of RR/LC for Linux,
for my educational purposes at least (let's not get onto the eternal
Devawriter) the FREE 2.1.1 for
Linux has served my purposes 100% for 7 years
Well, after thinking a while about how
could be distributed a free version of
LiveCode without harming the current
releases, I concluded this:
A free (an limited) version of Livecode could
be distributed as part of a bundle
with a book for teaching elemental
programming techniques.
Support could
On 07/20/2012 03:25 AM, Lynn Fredricks wrote:
It's my personal opinion that we ought to be making a much
bigger effort to improve education across the board, and no,
more money does not accomplish that goal.
Im going to dodge the political bullets I hear a buzzing in the air, Bob ;-)
For any
Richmmond wrote:
Richmond Mathewson-2 wrote
[snip]
Certainly in Britain (and here in Bulgaria) the end result of
years of pseudo-socialist thinking has resulted in a feeling
that the state must provide: all parents have to do is
produce children and after that provide food and bed,
and
Le 19 juil. 2012 à 20:23, Bob Sneidar a écrit :
I think the real key to making LC insanely profitable for RR is for us, the
developers, to produce really good commercial apps on a regular basis using
LC, and proudly display on our splash screens: Made With Livecode!
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Probably a true worldwide diagnostic, especially applicable in France too...
Le 19 juil. 2012 à 22:07, Bob Sneidar a écrit :
It's my personal opinion that we ought to be making a much bigger effort to
improve education across the board, and no, more money does not accomplish
that goal.
It's not just that many people who develop for mobile have already
settled on their tools, e.g. Java, Objective-C or in some cases the
Lua based platforms. Which means for pure ease of use they prefer to
stay where they are even if overall they may save time/money by
switching to RR. While you can
Oh, bob slylabs is posting again? What a pity.
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Oh Lynn...
With these words, you deflated the argument that I was about
to write:
Lynn Fredricks-2 wrote
For any education to be at its best, you need to have kids coming from
healthy, intellectually nurturing homes and neighborhoods, and a pipeline
of
communication. That's a much more
It also reminds me of the great class sizes debate which raged in
Britain for years. I forget the exact numbers but essentially simply
having smaller class sizes does not always improve attainment i.e.
there is a point that was optimal, beyond that the improvement in the
students was minimal if at
On Jul 19, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
If you haven't been to the runrev.com site lately, they have a whole section
on EDU, split into K-12 and higher ed:
http://www.runrev.com/education/index.html
That is a section on school. Homeschooled kids and self-motivated kids take
Peter Alcibiades wrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/schools/code-club-afterschool-group-teaches-children-how-to-become-programming-whizz-kids-7956967.html
Scratch != LiveCode
Or, translated into LiveCode:
Scratch LiveCode
In that translation we see one of many reasons why
It would have been nice if they could have bundled it with the Mac OS the way
Hypercard was, only with certain limitations that would prevent it from being
used for any serious business app creation. No standalones, no mobile apps,
sqLite support only, things like that.
Bob
On Jul 19, 2012,
Scratch is awesome! My 10 year old son has been programming in Scratch for 3 or
4 years now. He understands variables, loops, if then logic flow, message
passing, math algorithms, sub-routine functions, a whole range of programming
concepts. When he has a question that is easily solved with a
On 7/19/12 9:25 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
All that said, it's worth noting that even with only paid products and
only products that require scripting, the company continues to make
considerable progress in education
RR also offers very attractive educational discounts for schools.
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Peter Alcibiades palcibiades-first@... writes:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/schools/code-club-afterschool-group-teaches-children-how-to-become-programming-whizz-kids-7956967.html
The video is hilarious.
...and do notice the final paragraph of the article:
And what happens
Mark Wieder wrote:
...and do notice the final paragraph of the article:
And what happens beyond Code Club? Hopefully after two years with Code Club,
Sandvik continues, they'd be inspired to strike out on their own and explore
languages like JavaScript.
...well, we started out with Scratch and
Hi Richard,
Richard Gaskin wrote
[snip]
The only way LiveCode could become such a de facto standard would be for
someone to come up with a way that changing its license to FOSS could
still bring in enough money to be profitable.
If my guess are correct, in the future, someone will
Development software has the same conundrum that new OSes do, namely that they
have to pull themselves up by the bootstraps. There have to be enough
developers onboard ready to release software when the OS becomes available, so
that enough people will be interested in taking the plunge.
I need to repeat again, what I have posted before:
To gain a foothold in the schools, this platform have to
convince the leaders to use LiveCode, not the followers.
I think its important to narrow down what schools you are talking about
(K-12 vs else), and the relative importance of computer
It's my personal opinion that we ought to be making a much bigger effort to
improve education across the board, and no, more money does not accomplish that
goal. California has one of the highest per capita budgets for education, and
yet one of the worst records. If spending more money fixed
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:
It's my personal opinion that we ought to be making a much bigger effort to
improve
education across the board, and no, more money does not accomplish that
goal. California has one of the highest per capita budgets for
Bob Sneidar wrote:
I think the real key to making LC insanely profitable for RR is
for us, the developers, to produce really good commercial apps
on a regular basis using LC, and proudly display on our splash
screens: Made With Livecode!
Agreed.
And on the EDU front, LiveCode continues to
I am not sure about the situation in the US but in the UK (as noted
elsewhere on the lists) there is a big drive to get kids programming
again and not just using MS Word. Therefore the door is more than a
little open right now for LiveCode or other tools to make their way
in. For it's part
It's my personal opinion that we ought to be making a much
bigger effort to improve education across the board, and no,
more money does not accomplish that goal.
Im going to dodge the political bullets I hear a buzzing in the air, Bob ;-)
For any education to be at its best, you need to
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