[OT] Classical Gas

2014-02-12 Thread Richmond
I wonder if anyone can tell me which was the last version of RR/LC to have a version that ran on Mac OS 9? Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your

Re: [OT] Classical Gas

2014-02-12 Thread Heather Laine
I think that was 2.6.1. :) Regards, Heather On 12 Feb 2014, at 07:59, Richmond wrote: I wonder if anyone can tell me which was the last version of RR/LC to have a version that ran on Mac OS 9? Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: [OT] Classical Gas

2014-02-12 Thread Richmond
On 12/02/14 10:08, Heather Laine wrote: I think that was 2.6.1. :) Regards, Heather Thank you very much. I have had a slightly odd online conversation with somebody running a school in Botswana who was looking for a way to teach programming on some early iMacs running Mac OS 9.

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-12 Thread Ray
Hovering to get tool-tip style popups showing variable contents is something I've used for a while but it seems kind of finicky. It usually takes a while, like a second or two, before the popup is displayed. That wouldn't be so bad if it always worked, but sometimes you wait and wait and no

Re: Defining Pet Features and Essentials

2014-02-12 Thread Ender Nafi Elekcioglu
Part 1: I knew that this thread will turn into a technical help topic :/ Folks,  please don’t get me wrong, my intention is far from being rude. I’m not trying to solve a particular issue, here. Check the subject line, please. I know I’m the *new guy*  and I’ve noticed that whenever someone

Re: Defining Pet Features and Essentials

2014-02-12 Thread Ender Nafi Elekcioglu
Part 2: These are not my subjective opinions; look at this table:  http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html Where is Livecode? I want to see Livecode, there; I honestly do. And I’m willing to do anything I can to put Livecode into that page. EDIT just before posting the

Re: Defining Pet Features and Essentials

2014-02-12 Thread Richmond
On 12/02/14 12:47, Ender Nafi Elekcioglu wrote: Part 1: I knew that this thread will turn into a technical help topic :/ Folks, please don’t get me wrong, my intention is far from being rude. I’m not trying to solve a particular issue, here. Check the subject line, please. I know I’m the *new

[OT] question about stackoverflow - why was my posting deleted

2014-02-12 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Hi, on the 6th i posted a comment to the following question http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21612867/when-i-try-to-export-my-app-in-live-code-it-comes-up-with-an-error-message My answer was: Runrev offers many tutorials. There are also some about mobile development. I would suggest you try

Re: [OT] question about stackoverflow - why was my posting deleted

2014-02-12 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Matthias, Am 12.02.2014 um 13:06 schrieb Matthias Rebbe matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de: Hi, on the 6th i posted a comment to the following question http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21612867/when-i-try-to-export-my-app-in-live-code-it-comes-up-with-an-error-message My answer

Re: Defining Pet Features and Essentials

2014-02-12 Thread Richmond
On 12/02/14 12:48, Ender Nafi Elekcioglu wrote: Part 2: These are not my subjective opinions; look at this table: http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html No; they are not your subjective opinions; they are somebody else's subjective opinions, which they are trying

Re: [OT] question about stackoverflow - why was my posting deleted

2014-02-12 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Hi Mark, thanks for explaining. Then i think i will not waste anymore time with posting to SO. Regards, Matthias Am 12.02.2014 um 13:22 schrieb Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com: Hi Matthias, Your answer wasn't a direct answer to the question. Questions on SO should ask

Re: [OT] question about stackoverflow - why was my posting deleted

2014-02-12 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Yes, that were my same thoughts when i read Mark´s explanations. ;) I saw Ben´s post this morning and was wondering why my post was deleted. Let´s hope that at least the original poster has either read mine or Ben´s post. Matthias Am 12.02.2014 um 13:26 schrieb Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de:

Re: Defining Pet Features and Essentials

2014-02-12 Thread Ender Nafi Elekcioglu
Woof, woof? Richmond, really? Jumping up and woof, woof? If I understand wrong, then no need to read the rest, just ignore it; but IF I am the target of that statement, you should know that calling someone as a dog is a very, very, VERY, VERY harsh, petty, offensive insult in my language

Re: [OT] question about stackoverflow - why was my posting deleted

2014-02-12 Thread Mark Schonewille
Klaus and Matthias, It is gone ;-) -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour

Re: What is a .ric file?

2014-02-12 Thread Roger Eller
A little google told me... http://pc.net/extensions/file/ric On Feb 12, 2014 2:08 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/02/14 00:43, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Richmond, I believe I saw some .rlc files on my Mac and I assumed these were revolution license files. NOT

Re: What is a .ric file?

2014-02-12 Thread Mark Schonewille
OK, then I don't know, Richmond. Perhaps you post a direct link to such a file? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert

Re: What is a .ric file?

2014-02-12 Thread Richmond
On 12/02/14 15:22, Roger Eller wrote: A little google told me... Well; I've had Ricoh fax files, and now LEGO.. I don't think either of them will do: Here's a direct link: http://developer.runrev.com/components/revolution/enterprise/2.7.0-gm-1/full/resources.ric Richmond.

Re: What is a .ric file?

2014-02-12 Thread Roger Eller
In that case, judging by the path, and the fact that the file is binary, I suspect that only RunRev can tell you for sure what it does. ~Roger On Feb 12, 2014 8:33 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/02/14 15:22, Roger Eller wrote: A little google told me... Well; I've

Re: Defining Pet Features and Essentials

2014-02-12 Thread Ender Nafi Elekcioglu
Against my intentions and alongside my predictions, this thread got far away from its subject. I sincerely apologize for that. I study Objective-C with my fellow co-worker when I’m able to find time and I can’t desist from thinking that how an inefficient language it is. Livecode with its

Re: Android Test Won't Install

2014-02-12 Thread Roger Eller
Have you tried to be build for the highest version possible (3.1 and above)? By the way, it is starting to bug me that we can't choose higher versions than Honeycomb, which is so old now. Runrev updates those choices for iOS, but Android is being left behind, again. ~Roger On Feb 11, 2014 11:17

Re: [OT] question about stackoverflow - why was my posting deleted

2014-02-12 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Mark, Am 12.02.2014 um 14:17 schrieb Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com: Klaus and Matthias, It is gone ;-) yep, no further comment... ;-) ... on the 6th i posted a comment to the following question

Re: Defining Pet Features and Essentials

2014-02-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ender Nafi asked: Does Livecode not need a revamped url library It does indeed, on the Roap Map under Queued. modern limits for object sizes Current object sizes go up to about 32' - how big do you need them? an engine with enough horsepower for the year 2014 not for 2002? Always a fan

Re: Defining Pet Features and Essentials

2014-02-12 Thread Trevor DeVore
Hi Ender, Thanks for bringing up this discussion. Clearly you want the best for LiveCode and that is good. Having discussions on what is most important can often be frustrating as everyone has different experiences and opinions. Just a couple of things I would like to mention after having read

Re: [OT] question about stackoverflow - why was my posting deleted

2014-02-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Matthias Rebbe wrote: Then i think i will not waste anymore time with posting to SO. SO has its place, but it's a unique place, with unique expectations of the contributions there. That's why I feel it's a great compliment to the other venues we have for sharing LiveCode knowledge, but

Re: What is a .ric file?

2014-02-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond wrote: Here's a direct link: http://developer.runrev.com/components/revolution/enterprise/2.7.0-gm-1/full/resources.ric It's an encrypted LC stack, and it's from several years ago, for a version they no longer have (Enterprise). More interesting to me than what RunRev used it for

Re: diesel

2014-02-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: Actually, I see from the status page that *all* on-rev's servers are down. Nice. It shows OK across the board for me: http://on-rev.com/support/server-status/ -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for

Re: Android Test Won't Install

2014-02-12 Thread Dan Friedman
Roger, Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, LiveCode still hangs on Installing app on target device Maybe someone at LiveCode is listening and can lead us in the right direction. -Dan Have you tried to be build for the highest version possible (3.1 and above)? By the way, it is

Re: diesel

2014-02-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 7:18:33 AM, you wrote: It shows OK across the board for me: http://on-rev.com/support/server-status/ Yeah. The servers came back online at midnight PST. -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___

Re: [OT] question about stackoverflow - why was my posting deleted

2014-02-12 Thread Andrew Kluthe
I think it adds greatly to SO as a resource. I love the fact that the responses are required to be detailed. How fun would the dictionary be if it just had links to a website that came up instead of a readily available resource? I don't always want to follow another link to then sort out from

Re: Android Test Won't Install

2014-02-12 Thread Neil Roger
Hi Dan, The best place to get support for issues such as this is via supp...@runrev.com as messages sent there get filtered to our support team. I am in the process of trying to upgrade my Galaxy S3 to 4.3 so will report back with my results, although this does seem to be device based as

Re: Dollar Sign Variables

2014-02-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Craig- Tuesday, February 11, 2014, 10:45:33 AM, you wrote: I find the system globals to be a distraction. Sometimes there are a dozen or more, depending on where I am in the session, and they begin the variable list. Certainly better if they were at the bottom, and this hack is possible,

Re: Defining Pet Features and Essentials

2014-02-12 Thread Ender Nafi Elekcioglu
Richard: Does Livecode not need a revamped url library  It does indeed, on the Roap Map under Queued.  I don’t know how I missed that; I’ve checked again and yes, it’s right there and it’s excellent news :) Richard: modern limits for object sizes  Current object sizes go up to about 32' -

Re: Defining Pet Features and Essentials

2014-02-12 Thread Ender Nafi Elekcioglu
Trevor: So what is my point? I think the purpose of your post is a great one (how  the community can help RunRev focus on what is most important). If you think you can help RunRev better focus their resources, my  suggestion would be to come up with a system for collecting, categorizing,  and

Re: [OT] question about stackoverflow - why was my posting deleted

2014-02-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Mark- I did bump your comment as useful. I think that in conjunction with Dave Kilroy's comment is the correct response. -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: What is a .ric file?

2014-02-12 Thread Richmond
On 12/02/14 17:13, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richmond wrote: Here's a direct link: http://developer.runrev.com/components/revolution/enterprise/2.7.0-gm-1/full/resources.ric It's an encrypted LC stack, and it's from several years ago, for a version they no longer have (Enterprise). More

Re: Defining Pet Features and Essentials

2014-02-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ender Nafi wrote: Richard: modern limits for object sizes Current object sizes go up to about 32' - how big do you need them? The problem is the limits of group objects, here. 40’ images or graphics are useless most of the time, I know. But groups are must-have for scrolling, both on mobile

Re: diesel

2014-02-12 Thread dwilliams
Dear Mark, Happily none of the servers were down on this occasion. As I explained to you when I responded to your ticket on on-rev, the issue you saw was that the status page itself was down for a period, and I'm glad to say I was able to rectify this for you when it was reported via the

Re: Defining Pet Features and Essentials

2014-02-12 Thread Peter Haworth
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote: Twitter's UI would be well suited for LC's DataGrid. The Datagrid does have a way to request records form the user when needed. I think the property that controls is dgNumberOfRecords, described in Section 9 of

Re: Android Test Won't Install

2014-02-12 Thread Dan Friedman
Roger, Yes. I did restart the device. Also, the app was never installed since I couldn't get it installed via LC. I was able to side-load the app on the device, and it did install. So, there must be something goofy going on with LC and Android 4.3. I'm sure you'll get it knocked out.

Re: Android Test Won't Install

2014-02-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/12/14, 12:32 PM, Dan Friedman wrote: Although side-loading is a little bit of a pain, it's an acceptable workaround until this gets repaired. The easiest way is to put the apk into any cloud service you have (Dropbox, Google Drive, etc.) and then open it from within the cloud app on

Re: diesel

2014-02-12 Thread Mark Wieder
dwilliams@... writes: Happily none of the servers were down on this occasion. As I explained to you when I responded to your ticket on on-rev, the issue you saw was that the status page itself was down for a period, and I'm glad to say I was able to rectify this for you when it was

Re: Defining Pet Features and Essentials

2014-02-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/12/14, 6:48 AM, Ender Nafi Elekcioglu wrote: you should know that calling someone as a dog is a very, very, VERY, VERY harsh, petty, offensive insult in my language culture. I think it's easy for westerners to forget that, since over here a dog is just another animal with no special

Re: Defining Pet Features and Essentials

2014-02-12 Thread Richmond
On 12/02/14 21:04, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 2/12/14, 6:48 AM, Ender Nafi Elekcioglu wrote: you should know that calling someone as a dog is a very, very, VERY, VERY harsh, petty, offensive insult in my language culture. I think it's easy for westerners to forget that, since over here a dog

Re: Defining Pet Features and Essentials

2014-02-12 Thread Ender Nafi Elekcioglu
Once again, I hit that 15kb. barrier. Repeating myself without quoting Jacque’s reply; I hope this will be short enough for the mail-list :) Hi Jacque, Actually we talked about it in detail with Richmond. I already removed the post from nabble;  pity that I can’t remove it from your

Re: Defining Pet Features and Essentials

2014-02-12 Thread dunbarx
Ender. I was the cause of the previous flame war. Caught me by surprise as well. I have no doubt of your integrity, and that is all that matters. These hassles occur now and then. There is no reason to belabor this. We are glad to have you in this community. Back to LC. Now that is

[OT] Cultural differences (was Re: Defining Pet Features and Essentials)

2014-02-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
Ender, I marked this as OT because we've gone off-track, but this is fascinating to me and I'm glad your reply was still in my inbox. Whereas “pig” is condescending, “ox” means dumb, “dog” is pretty insulting. Pig here means dirty, sloppy, unclean, even though pigs are naturally very

Re: Defining Pet Features and Essentials - Found word(s) remove list in the Text body

2014-02-12 Thread dunbarx
It was on the forum. Worth a look just for the car-accident-rubbernecking value. Craig -Original Message- From: Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wed, Feb 12, 2014 3:46 pm Subject: Re: Defining Pet Features and

LiveCode vs other tools for children

2014-02-12 Thread j...@unmla.com
As a follow-up to my question regarding LiveCode in elementary schools, I'm wondering if there is a need for research to compare programming/development environments for children. So I paid an online visit to code.org. I was happy to see LiveCode represented on http://code.org/learn (under

RE: [OT] Cultural differences (was Re: Defining Pet Features and Essentials)

2014-02-12 Thread Ralph DiMola
J, Very good points!! I spent 1.5 years in Japan. I was having cocktails with some Tokyo locals and I was tired and wanted to be able to accomplish what I promised the next day and refused a tumbler glass of whiskey from Karamura San late in the night. I went back to the hotel and found out the

Problems with delete stack

2014-02-12 Thread Peter Haworth
I think I ran into this a while back but it's cropped up again. I have a script that deletes a stack from memory then opens it again from a different stack file. When the new stack is loaded, I get the usual LC message about duplicate stack names and what do I want to do about them. In itself,

Re: Problems with delete stack

2014-02-12 Thread Scott Rossi
If you want a stack to be removed from memory when it closes, it needs to have its destroyStack property enabled. Also check to make sure no script from the closing stack is executing -- that could prevent the stack from closing completely. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media,

Re: LiveCode vs other tools for children

2014-02-12 Thread stephen barncard
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 2:20 PM, j...@unmla.com j...@unmla.com wrote: at the very least, the best option for text manipulation. You just stated a truth. Chunk Expressions in Livecode rock. *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words*

Re: Crowd Funding Enhancements

2014-02-12 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: The only downside with that visualization is that it takes a large screen to really see what's going on. Might be nice to also have some other automated graphic view - what else is floating around in the Git

Re: diesel

2014-02-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
Good thing I just deployed a mySQL server on a computer I was given from my last place of employ. I had On-Rev crap out on my in the middle of a proof of concept meeting. That was not pretty nor was it comfortable. Bob On Feb 11, 2014, at 22:50 , Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:

Re: Defining Pet Features and Essentials

2014-02-12 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 6:59 AM, Ender Nafi Elekcioglu endern...@keehuna.com wrote: Try to calculate a recursive fib(33) under 0.5 second {it's 14 seconds on a brand new Macbook Pro Retina, where it's ~100ms. for Javascript.} I'll take that bet: local fibArray function fib N if N = 0

Re: Defining Pet Features and Essentials

2014-02-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Geoff- Close. Your first array element is empty. Right answer, though. local fibArray function fib N if (N = 1 or N = 2) then put 1 into fibArray[N] return 1 end if if fibArray[N] is empty then put fib(N-2) + fib(N-1) into fibArray[N] return fibArray[N] end fib

Re: Defining Pet Features and Essentials

2014-02-12 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: 3524578 0.22 Ha, let me not cheat: on mouseUp clearFib put the long seconds into T get fib(33) put it the long seconds - T end mouseUp local fibArray function fib N if N = 0 or N = 1 then return N

Re: Defining Pet Features and Essentials

2014-02-12 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.netwrote: Close. Your first array element is empty. Right answer, though. What's in the array isn't important, really -- it's just a manual form of the memo feature some languages offer. fibArray[1] is empty, as is fibArray[0],

Re: Defining Pet Features and Essentials

2014-02-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Geoff- Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 9:20:32 PM, you wrote: What's in the array isn't important, really -- it's just a manual form of ... Ah, never mind. I see you're priming the array with a 0 value in the first element and then treating the array as if it's 1-based rather than 0-based.

Re: The DefaultButton

2014-02-12 Thread dunbarx
Bob. I made a new stack with one button on it. Put a mouseUp handler in it. In msg: send mouseUp to the defaultbutton of this card Got what I expected. Craig -Original Message- From: Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com