Foreign Handlers - Builder?

2017-08-14 Thread Malte Pfaff-Brill via use-livecode
Hi all, I am in a situation where a LC desktop application needs to talk to an external USB device (a sophisticated card reader). Drivers for Win, Mac and Linux exists and are delivered without much of documentation with the device… Is it already possible to elevate the drivers methods to a

Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-14 Thread Jim Lambert via use-livecode
> Klaus wrote: > > I deleted the 49 slavic spam postings manually a couple of minutes ago… Спасибо ;) Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your

Re: common code patterns

2017-08-14 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 15 Aug 2017, at 2:10 am, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > But maybe not enough markdown to change how the human eye works. :) Sure, my preferable end goal does not include backticks but I’ll take anything if it’s the only way I can have a

Re: String delimiters [WAS Re: common code patterns]

2017-08-14 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 15 Aug 2017, at 5:22 am, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode > wrote: > > put {{ > That's better! > A really readable and short > version that I can deal with. > }} into temp It’s really unlikely we would use { } because one day we will want to implement array

Message box And Password Protected Stacks

2017-08-14 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Since when can't you call a command/function in the message box from a password protected stack until it is opened(using password) in the script editor once? Is this a regression or intended behavior? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

Re: sms,MMS, and Push Notificstions

2017-08-14 Thread Simon Smith via use-livecode
I would look at push notifications. onesignal.com looks quiet good, just not had a chance to play with it yet. I have found that SMS messages are too unreliable when it comes to emergency notifications, sometimes they come through, sometimes they don't and sometimes they come through an hour or

Re: Android App Woes

2017-08-14 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Dan, I can confirm here that, yes, it does seem to be an issue on Android with the "state of accelerated Rendering" in our app, we need to keep the loader stack open all the time. This has a card with a background color and a PNG on top… called from assets/img/global-icons/SVG-Lingam.png

Re: String delimiters [WAS Re: common code patterns]

2017-08-14 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
If you mean, do I think put \ "This is part of" & \ "A multi-line string which" & \ "I find much less readable." into temp is less preferable than put {{ That's better! A really readable and short version that I can deal with. }} into temp then, Yes - absolutely. To be honest, I don't much

Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-14 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 08/12/2017 02:47 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Thank you - I'm sure there will be no issue with giving you the relevant privileges. I know Heather has to deal with things like this on a regular basis and having others who are willing to assist can only help. This is getting

$1,000 Bounty For LiveCode Bug 20240

2017-08-14 Thread RunRevPlanet via use-livecode
Hi,   Over at LiveCode Quality Control Centre (QCC) there is a Bug 20240 has been a problem for me lately.    I understand that a significant effort has been put into finding a fix over the past years, but without success. The problem behaviour has been reported before, my report is simply the

Re: $1,000 Bounty For LiveCode Bug 20240

2017-08-14 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
Ha! That was the bug all along! Just kidding. I noticed that too. I was going to upload an mp4 so that more people could check it out, but that required downloading the AVI. > On Aug 14, 2017, at 8:07 PM, ** Clarence P Martin ** via use-livecode > wrote: > >

Re: $1,000 Bounty For LiveCode Bug 20240

2017-08-14 Thread Warren Samples via use-livecode
On 08/14/2017 07:19 PM, Warren Samples via use-livecode wrote: On 08/14/2017 07:07 PM, ** Clarence P Martin ** via use-livecode wrote: The AVI is Blank. It works here. ___ I transcoded Scott's video to m4v and uploaded it for those who who

Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-14 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Office 365 and Kaspersky and our router subscriptions seem to be working then. I got nothing. :-) Bob S > On Aug 14, 2017, at 11:50 , Jim Lambert via use-livecode > wrote: > >> Klaus wrote: >> >> I deleted the 49 slavic spam postings manually a couple of

Re: sms,MMS, and Push Notificstions

2017-08-14 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Thanks. Looks interesting. It also looks like I'd have to learn a lot to get it implemented. I’ve been using cURL to access an API for water meter readings, and it’s painful, but would probably get easier. This looks like a good provider, tho. Best, Bill P > On Aug 14, 2017, at 1:42 PM, Simon

Re: String delimiters [WAS Re: common code patterns]

2017-08-14 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 15 Aug 2017, at 7:33 am, Monte Goulding via use-livecode > wrote: > > put “foo\ > bar” > > would put: > > foo > bar I had a little play while munching my muesli this morning with adding this to my (probably won’t get in the engine) PR for escaped

RE: $1,000 Bounty For LiveCode Bug 20240

2017-08-14 Thread ** Clarence P Martin ** via use-livecode
The AVI is Blank. Sincerely, Clarence Martin Email: chi...@themartinz.com Cell: 626 6965561 -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of RunRevPlanet via use-livecode Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 4:39 PM To: Use LiveCode

RE: $1,000 Bounty For LiveCode Bug 20240

2017-08-14 Thread ** Clarence P Martin ** via use-livecode
Correction the AVI did download and apparently there is something playing but the screen is totally black. The file I about 33kb Sincerely, Clarence Martin Email: chi...@themartinz.com Cell: 626 6965561 -Original Message- From: use-livecode

Re: $1,000 Bounty For LiveCode Bug 20240

2017-08-14 Thread Warren Samples via use-livecode
On 08/14/2017 07:07 PM, ** Clarence P Martin ** via use-livecode wrote: The AVI is Blank. It works here. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription

Re: String delimiters [WAS Re: common code patterns]

2017-08-14 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I'm at a loss here. What do you mean by multi-line strings besides strings with multiple lines in them? Isn't this already possible?? Bob S > On Aug 14, 2017, at 09:00 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 08/14/2017 03:28 AM, Alex Tweedly via

Re: $1,000 Bounty For LiveCode Bug 20240

2017-08-14 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Yup I've seen that myself. I don't know what to do about it but close the script editor and reopen it. Seems to go away. Bob S > On Aug 14, 2017, at 16:38 , RunRevPlanet via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi, > > Over at LiveCode Quality Control Centre (QCC)

Re: sms,MMS, and Push Notificstions

2017-08-14 Thread Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
If I were to create an emergency alert app, I'd make something that stayed alive and was always verifying the existence of a central entity - web site, server etc. and the fail safe is that the user would be alerted when out of range. An 'always on' executable that would have to be carefully

Re: $1,000 Bounty For LiveCode Bug 20240

2017-08-14 Thread RunRevPlanet via use-livecode
> I transcoded Scott's video to m4v and uploaded it for those > who interested and coudn't see it. Thank you Warren. I use VLC for all my video playback needs. It generally handles anything thrown at it, so I wasn't aware that the encoding may not be compatible for everyone. -- Scott McDonald

Re: $1,000 Bounty For LiveCode Bug 20240

2017-08-14 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I think we've all seen it. It isn't necessary to close the editor though, I just reselect and it works the second time. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On August 14, 2017 8:34:11 PM Bob Sneidar

Re: $1,000 Bounty For LiveCode Bug 20240

2017-08-14 Thread Terry Judd via use-livecode
Yeah, sometimes, but in my experience not always. I’ve had to resort to closing the affected tab at least. Terry... Terry Judd| Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Department of Medical Education The University of Melbourne

Re: $1,000 Bounty For LiveCode Bug 20240

2017-08-14 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
VLC is great, but it only works if you get past the download stage. > On Aug 14, 2017, at 9:58 PM, RunRevPlanet via use-livecode > wrote: > > >> I transcoded Scott's video to m4v and uploaded it for those >> who interested and coudn't see it. > > Thank you

Re: sms,MMS, and Push Notificstions

2017-08-14 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Thanks, Stephen: What we are using as a preliminary solution is a mass sms and/or MMS texts and identical voice calls to our 49 numbers, initiated by one of several possible initiators who are called if a fire is observed. We are using eztexting.com for the texts and

sms,MMS, and Push Notificstions

2017-08-14 Thread ELS prothero via use-livecode
I’m curious. Has anybody done much with push notifications on mobile? There is a lesson on the livecode web site which is quite detailed, but leaves out the server side of the equation. I have been thinking about an emergency alert app and am exploring how difficult it would be to implement

Re: common code patterns

2017-08-14 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-14 10:38, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: Oh, please not backtick! The character is awkward to type (its one of the ones that moves around a lot on keyboard layouts) and difficult to read (and always makes me think something more is going on - e.g. as in bash scripts!).

Re: common code patterns

2017-08-14 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-14 11:14, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: Hmm… so say merge(“ string “, resolve escapes) = ` string ` ? I’ve got to say I wasn’t thinking of interpolation as I thought that merge does that sufficiently well. Seeing 'special tokens' as syntactic sugar is definitely the way to

String delimiters [WAS Re: common code patterns]

2017-08-14 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
While we (i.e. you) are thinking about string delimiters, could we PLEASE have some decent way to do multi-line strings. Whether it's like Python's triple-quote, or Perl's heredoc, or just some way to do them without either escaped '\n's or non-embedded CRs. Thanks Alex. On

Re: common code patterns

2017-08-14 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 14 Aug 2017, at 5:45 pm, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > > P.S. There is another quote-like char which could be used for an implicitly > merged / escaped string literal - back-quote - `...`. So that should be > considered too - one option would

Re: Android App Woes

2017-08-14 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
For the moment, is it sufficient to move turning on accelerated rendering to the end of the startup routine? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 14, 2017, at 12:54 AM, Dan Friedman via use-livecode > wrote: > > Jacque, > > I don’t think I can make a bug report yet.

Re: common code patterns

2017-08-14 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> The point here is that if we *were* to use back-tick then it would be worth > considering making it escape capable *and* interpolate capable - i.e. there > would be more going on. It would certainly solve one part of the balancing > act in terms of what people may want to use ' and "

Re: common code patterns

2017-08-14 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-08-13 23:26, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: Ha “(and may not be)” should really be “(and is really really unlikely to be)” but still it was an interesting thing to have a play with. In its current form - yes - it is unlikely. There are several (some orthogonal, some not)

[ANN] This Week in LiveCode 95

2017-08-14 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi all, Read about new developments in LiveCode open source and the open source community in today's edition of the "This Week in LiveCode" newsletter! Read issue #95 here: https://goo.gl/Yo6tWn This is a weekly newsletter about LiveCode, focussing on what's been going on in and around

Re: Bug 20255 - Simple Loop Labeling

2017-08-14 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Why not? It's in the dictionary! au·to·mag·ic·al·ly ˌôdəˈmajək(ə)lē/ adverbinformal adverb: automagically • (especially in relation to the operation of a computer process) automatically and in a way that seems ingenious, inexplicable, or magical. "just type in the name of what you want

Re: Bug 20255 - Simple Loop Labeling

2017-08-14 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Wait, you're saying that this is a win win, where everybody... WINS??? BAN it! ;-) Bob S > On Aug 10, 2017, at 11:55 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > Well, you don't actually have to use the tooltip. It wouldn't interfere with > your current

Re: Bug 20255 - Simple Loop Labeling

2017-08-14 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Ehm... some complicated condition might be 5 lines of code. Bob S > On Aug 10, 2017, at 18:38 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > >> if some complicated condition then # I’m a makin’ spaghetti >>— spaghetti >> end if # I’m a makin' spaghetti > > I

Re: common code patterns

2017-08-14 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
put "Hello there, Teddy Roughrider Roosevelt!" into tText replace "Roughrider" with quote & "Roughrider" & quote in tText Bob S > On Aug 12, 2017, at 13:20 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > The q function is handy, but handier still would be to

Re: Android App Woes

2017-08-14 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode
Ok… I found something! When my app launches, it opens a second stack. It’s this second stack that I enable acceleratedRendering. If this stack’s acceleratedRendering = true, then we crash on re-entry. On a whim, I thought, “maybe there’s a problem in LC if there are multiple stacks open

Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-14 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
More moderators may be helpful for some tasks, but the crux of this particular issue is the efficiency of the attacking bot, the sheer number of messages. I appreciate Klaus taking the time to delete those manually, and in the past I've ditched large batches myself. But since PHPBB provides

Re: String delimiters [WAS Re: common code patterns]

2017-08-14 Thread Bob Hall via use-livecode
> On Aug 14, 2017, at 6:28 AM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode > wrote: > > While we (i.e. you) are thinking about string delimiters, could we PLEASE > have some decent way to do multi-line strings. I find myself in many situations where multi-line strings would

Re: String delimiters [WAS Re: common code patterns]

2017-08-14 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
So you don't like & ? On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 08/14/2017 03:28 AM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: > >> While we (i.e. you) are thinking about string delimiters, could we PLEASE >> have some decent way to do

Re: String delimiters [WAS Re: common code patterns]

2017-08-14 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 08/14/2017 03:28 AM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: While we (i.e. you) are thinking about string delimiters, could we PLEASE have some decent way to do multi-line strings. Yes, please. Whether it's like Python's triple-quote No, please. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com

Re: common code patterns

2017-08-14 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 08/14/2017 02:35 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: slight 'yak-shave' here with regards constants (http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19413) - as anything after an initializer is currently treated as a literal, and *not* an expression. ...and not just 19413. This

Re: common code patterns

2017-08-14 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Monte Goulding wrote: >> On 14 Aug 2017, at 5:45 pm, Mark Waddingham wrote: >> >> P.S. There is another quote-like char which could be used for >> an implicitly merged / escaped string literal - back-quote - >> `...`. So that should be considered too - one option would be >> single-quote and

Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-14 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Yeah, a few more community moderators would be welcome. On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > Am 12.08.2017 um 23:47 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>: > > > > Thank you - I'm sure

Re: String delimiters [WAS Re: common code patterns]

2017-08-14 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Hall wrote: >> On Aug 14, 2017, at 6:28 AM, Alex Tweedly wrote: >> >> While we (i.e. you) are thinking about string delimiters, could we >> PLEASE have some decent way to do multi-line strings. > > I find myself in many situations where multi-line strings would make > my code so much more