Re: LC 9.6.0 DP 2 Question

[Pi Digital via use-livecode]

Hi Charles

Just use the default LiveCode Stack. The others are there for backwards 
compatibility to older versions of LC like LC6 or LC5.5. 2.2 is useful to be 
able to open in LC5 for example. To be able to open it in LC8.x.x or LC9.x.x, 
leave it as LiveCode Stack. 

All the best in DP2

Sean Cole
Pi Digital Prod Ltd

> On 16 Jan 2020, at 01:03, Charles Szasz via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I just started using LC 9.6.0 DP 2.  Since it is a developer preview, I save 
> my changes by using Save As.  When I used Save As with a different stack 
> name, I get several options for the stack format.  What is the recommended 
> stack format so you can continue to use LC 9.6.0 DP 2. with the stacks?  
> Please note that I am not trying to save the LC 9.6.0 DP 2 with Save As for 
> stack compatibility with previous versions of LC. 
> 
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Re: LC 9.6.0 DP 2 Question

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 1/15/20 5:03 PM, Charles Szasz via use-livecode wrote:


Please note that I am not trying to save the LC 9.6.0 DP 2 with Save As for 
stack compatibility with previous versions of LC.


In that case, why would you select anything other than the default?

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LC 9.6.0 DP 2 Question

[Charles Szasz via use-livecode]

I just started using LC 9.6.0 DP 2.  Since it is a developer preview, I save my 
changes by using Save As.  When I used Save As with a different stack name, I 
get several options for the stack format.  What is the recommended stack format 
so you can continue to use LC 9.6.0 DP 2. with the stacks?  Please note that I 
am not trying to save the LC 9.6.0 DP 2 with Save As for stack compatibility 
with previous versions of LC. 

Sent from my iPad
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Re: Admob integration

[Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode]

I created a widget for it a few years back after which Admob changed their
whole approach to how to gain access/display the ads. At the time
InfinityLC was not yet completed. By the time it had, I had lost interest
-- and most of my clients! (Remember when LC said they would have iOS ObjC
ready in just a few months but that ended up being about 2years instead)

The key issue you will come across with trying to bind their API to LC via
LC Builder is that their API will be expecting access to XCode (which it
won't get). There is probably some way around it but it won't be easy to
work out as their support will only be interested in helping those
communicating from XCode directly. Perhaps the Android API/SDK would be
easier to work from and perhaps even be usable from iOS too.

Good luck

Sean Cole
*Pi Digital *


On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 21:42, JJS via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> If i knew how to create a library or widget for it i would do it too. My
> knowledge is to little for it,even after reading and trying out the
> examples from Git and the lessons.
>
> For Amazon one can download the sdk jar which perhaps can be loaded and
> connected with via LCB for Android
>
> For Google on Android the sdk is not downloadable anymore and goes via
> Google play api somewhat
>
> For iOs one can download the sdk from Google or from Ironsource the
> mediation sdk  to get perhaps a step further(maybe in swift indeed)
>
> But then what, i would not know how to proceed.
>
> As for Android Studio, Unity, Eclipse i see lots of examples.
>
> If one might have a reasonable app, you could get some extra income to
> extend the LC subscription which already would be a good reason for me
> at the moment
>
>
> Op 15-1-2020 om 22:07 schreef Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode:
> > On Jan 15, 2020, at 1:03 PM, JJS via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >> No one interested in putting ads in mobile apps to get some extra
> income?
> >
> > Oh, I’m interested, but I’ve given up.
> >
> > I have aa parta program on hold.  I assume I’ll end up just writing it
> in swift.
> >
> > There is *supposedly* a partnership with an interface in the base
> distribution.  The vendor for the ads, however, has no interest in dealing
> with anyone that hasn’t already shipped zillions of copies
> >
> >
> > —
> > Richard E. Hawkins, Esq.
> > The Hawkins Law Firm
> > 3430 E. Flamingo Rd.
> > Suite 232
> > Las Vegas, NV  89121
> > (702) 508-8462
> >
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Re: WEBP Image Format

[Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode]

If you want to build a decoder for it, here's a javascript demo you can
convert. Scripts included.

https://webmproject.github.io/libwebp-demo/webp_js/index.html

you could even use the JS within an LC browser to do the conversion! just
make it into your own library then :)

Sean Cole
*Pi Digital*


On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 22:37, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Thanks for all the suggestions! This is a mobile app so shelling is not an
> option. I will look at the command line utility and make a web service API
> on my server.
>
> Update: I just converted a test webp file on Windows using this utility
> and it works. Now onto the on-rev server and Linux/web service.
>
> I guess I should file an enhancement request so we can deal with webp
> format in LC after I get past the current disaster.
>
> Continuing on with my headache...
>
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>
>
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RE: WEBP Image Format

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

Update 2: dwebp command line utility via my new web service API works like a 
charm. I now can put the webp image into a image control.
LC server rocks for banging out these type of things.

Thanks again for the info that made this happen!

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Martin Koob via use-livecode
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 4:59 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Martin Koob
Subject: Re: WEBP Image Format

Hi

Not sure if this would work but in the following article

https://www.howtogeek.com/325864/how-to-save-googles-webp-images-as-jpeg-or-png/

 it says there are command line utilities to convert WebP images to PNG and 
other formats

 'Google offers up the utilities to encode, decode, and view WebP on Linux, 
Windows, and Mac OS X.’

C:\Path\To\dwebp.exe inputFile.webp -o outputFile


I think you could use LiveCode’s shell() function to run this to convert any of 
the WebP images you are supplied to get PNG versions to server to your 
customers.


Regards,

Martin Koob





> On Jan 15, 2020, at 4:48 PM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ralph,
> 
> Sounds like you are stuck with it.
> 
> I think you will have to play around with the browser widget or figure 
> out how to take a screen shot of just the image so you can use it.
> 
> It’s a headache and a PITA!
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Rick
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Rick,
>> 
>> Yes, I have no choice. This in one of many weather icon URLs that our 
>> weather provider delivers via their API. I don't know what the image 
>> is until it's downloaded and displayed. All of the images to date 
>> were/are PNGs. This one seems to be an outlier but I'm worried that 
>> more of these may come my way. I Can't open it up in any app(Windows) 
>> except for Chrome. I display these icons in the app using 24 of these 
>> images(one per hour) in a scrolling group.
>> The browser widget opens the URL and displays the image. If I knew 
>> the size I guess I could do some convoluted procedure to 
>> resize/export the image from the browser widget to an image to display in a 
>> resizable image control.
>> If the browser widget can open it then the open source library for 
>> webp must be available (conversion widget?).
>> 
>> Headache
> 
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Re: Buying a used apple to run ios simulator.

[Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode]

Get an Intel Nuc. By far the cheapest, easiest and fastest way to get a
Hackintosh up and running. Lots of youtube about it and tonnes of helpful
people with excellent advice. Works out better than an actual Mac Mini by
far. And dual bootable for Linux and Windows too.

Sean Cole
*Pi Digital *


On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 21:05, Tom Glod via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Am I allowed to swear on this forum?cuz F YES! that is what I want to
> dodual boot. :D Thanks!!
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 4:01 PM JJS via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > Alternative, if you have a decent PC, insert an extra HD or SDD and make
> > it an Hackintosh and dualboot
> >
> > check details here: https://www.tonymacx86.com/ on how to do it
> >
> > You can nicely play with the iOs Simulator
> >
> >
> > Op 15-1-2020 om 21:45 schreef Richmond via use-livecode:
> > > See if it sits within the models that can be upgraded to MacOS 10.15 .
> > > . .
> > >
> > > The A1311 was released in late 2011 and can only be updated to MacOS
> > > 10.13.6 !
> > >
> > > If you can get your hands on a Late 2012 Mac mini that will upgrade to
> > > MacOS 10.15:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.kijiji.ca/v-ordinateurs-de-bureau/ville-de-montreal/liquidation-mac-mini-chez-lap-pro-seulement-249/1482471428?undefined
> > >
> > >
> > > Worth a look!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 15.01.20 20:22, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote:
> > >> Hi peeps,
> > >>
> > >> I need to run the ios simulator and build ios apps, so I have to buy
> an
> > >> apple mac.
> > >>
> > >> I have 0 plans to use it for anything else, so I am buying
> refurbished.
> > >>
> > >> Will this system work?  Can someone confirm for me?
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://ca.refurb.io/collections/apple-laptops-ipads/products/apple-imac-a1311-21-5-all-in-one-intel-core-i5-4gb-ram-500gb-hdd-high-sierra-os-refurbished-b-grade
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I plan on using 9.05 and 9.5 on it.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Tom
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
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RE: WEBP Image Format

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

Thanks for all the suggestions! This is a mobile app so shelling is not an 
option. I will look at the command line utility and make a web service API on 
my server.

Update: I just converted a test webp file on Windows using this utility and it 
works. Now onto the on-rev server and Linux/web service. 

I guess I should file an enhancement request so we can deal with webp format in 
LC after I get past the current disaster.

Continuing on with my headache...

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Martin Koob via use-livecode
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 4:59 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Martin Koob
Subject: Re: WEBP Image Format

Hi

Not sure if this would work but in the following article

https://www.howtogeek.com/325864/how-to-save-googles-webp-images-as-jpeg-or-png/

 it says there are command line utilities to convert WebP images to PNG and 
other formats

 'Google offers up the utilities to encode, decode, and view WebP on Linux, 
Windows, and Mac OS X.’

C:\Path\To\dwebp.exe inputFile.webp -o outputFile


I think you could use LiveCode’s shell() function to run this to convert any of 
the WebP images you are supplied to get PNG versions to server to your 
customers.


Regards,

Martin Koob





> On Jan 15, 2020, at 4:48 PM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ralph,
> 
> Sounds like you are stuck with it.
> 
> I think you will have to play around with the browser widget or figure 
> out how to take a screen shot of just the image so you can use it.
> 
> It’s a headache and a PITA!
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Rick
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Rick,
>> 
>> Yes, I have no choice. This in one of many weather icon URLs that our 
>> weather provider delivers via their API. I don't know what the image 
>> is until it's downloaded and displayed. All of the images to date 
>> were/are PNGs. This one seems to be an outlier but I'm worried that 
>> more of these may come my way. I Can't open it up in any app(Windows) 
>> except for Chrome. I display these icons in the app using 24 of these 
>> images(one per hour) in a scrolling group.
>> The browser widget opens the URL and displays the image. If I knew 
>> the size I guess I could do some convoluted procedure to 
>> resize/export the image from the browser widget to an image to display in a 
>> resizable image control.
>> If the browser widget can open it then the open source library for 
>> webp must be available (conversion widget?).
>> 
>> Headache
> 
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Re: WEBP Image Format

[Martin Koob via use-livecode]

Hi

Not sure if this would work but in the following article

https://www.howtogeek.com/325864/how-to-save-googles-webp-images-as-jpeg-or-png/

 it says there are command line utilities to convert WebP images to PNG and 
other formats

 'Google offers up the utilities to encode, decode, and view WebP on Linux, 
Windows, and Mac OS X.’

C:\Path\To\dwebp.exe inputFile.webp -o outputFile


I think you could use LiveCode’s shell() function to run this to convert any of 
the WebP images you are supplied to get PNG versions to server to your 
customers.


Regards,

Martin Koob





> On Jan 15, 2020, at 4:48 PM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ralph,
> 
> Sounds like you are stuck with it.
> 
> I think you will have to play around with the browser widget
> or figure out how to take a screen shot of just the image
> so you can use it.  
> 
> It’s a headache and a PITA!
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Rick
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Rick,
>> 
>> Yes, I have no choice. This in one of many weather icon URLs that our
>> weather provider delivers via their API. I don't know what the image is
>> until it's downloaded and displayed. All of the images to date were/are
>> PNGs. This one seems to be an outlier but I'm worried that more of these may
>> come my way. I Can't open it up in any app(Windows) except for Chrome. I
>> display these icons in the app using 24 of these images(one per hour) in a
>> scrolling group.
>> The browser widget opens the URL and displays the image. If I knew the size
>> I guess I could do some convoluted procedure to resize/export the image from
>> the browser widget to an image to display in a resizable image control.
>> If the browser widget can open it then the open source library for webp must
>> be available (conversion widget?).
>> 
>> Headache
> 
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Re: WEBP Image Format

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

Ralph,

Sounds like you are stuck with it.

I think you will have to play around with the browser widget
or figure out how to take a screen shot of just the image
so you can use it.  

It’s a headache and a PITA!

Good luck!

Rick

> On Jan 15, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey Rick,
> 
> Yes, I have no choice. This in one of many weather icon URLs that our
> weather provider delivers via their API. I don't know what the image is
> until it's downloaded and displayed. All of the images to date were/are
> PNGs. This one seems to be an outlier but I'm worried that more of these may
> come my way. I Can't open it up in any app(Windows) except for Chrome. I
> display these icons in the app using 24 of these images(one per hour) in a
> scrolling group.
> The browser widget opens the URL and displays the image. If I knew the size
> I guess I could do some convoluted procedure to resize/export the image from
> the browser widget to an image to display in a resizable image control.
> If the browser widget can open it then the open source library for webp must
> be available (conversion widget?).
> 
> Headache

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Re: Admob integration

[JJS via use-livecode]

If i knew how to create a library or widget for it i would do it too. My 
knowledge is to little for it,even after reading and trying out the 
examples from Git and the lessons.


For Amazon one can download the sdk jar which perhaps can be loaded and 
connected with via LCB for Android


For Google on Android the sdk is not downloadable anymore and goes via 
Google play api somewhat


For iOs one can download the sdk from Google or from Ironsource the 
mediation sdk  to get perhaps a step further(maybe in swift indeed)


But then what, i would not know how to proceed.

As for Android Studio, Unity, Eclipse i see lots of examples.

If one might have a reasonable app, you could get some extra income to 
extend the LC subscription which already would be a good reason for me 
at the moment



Op 15-1-2020 om 22:07 schreef Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode:

On Jan 15, 2020, at 1:03 PM, JJS via use-livecode 
 wrote:

No one interested in putting ads in mobile apps to get some extra income?


Oh, I’m interested, but I’ve given up.

I have aa parta program on hold.  I assume I’ll end up just writing it in swift.

There is *supposedly* a partnership with an interface in the base distribution. 
 The vendor for the ads, however, has no interest in dealing with anyone that 
hasn’t already shipped zillions of copies


—
Richard E. Hawkins, Esq.
The Hawkins Law Firm
3430 E. Flamingo Rd.
Suite 232
Las Vegas, NV  89121
(702) 508-8462

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Re: Admob integration

[Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode]

On Jan 15, 2020, at 1:03 PM, JJS via use-livecode 
 wrote:
> 
> No one interested in putting ads in mobile apps to get some extra income?


Oh, I’m interested, but I’ve given up.

I have aa parta program on hold.  I assume I’ll end up just writing it in swift.

There is *supposedly* a partnership with an interface in the base distribution. 
 The vendor for the ads, however, has no interest in dealing with anyone that 
hasn’t already shipped zillions of copies


— 
Richard E. Hawkins, Esq.
The Hawkins Law Firm
3430 E. Flamingo Rd.
Suite 232
Las Vegas, NV  89121
(702) 508-8462

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Re: Buying a used apple to run ios simulator.

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

Am I allowed to swear on this forum?cuz F YES! that is what I want to
dodual boot. :D Thanks!!

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 4:01 PM JJS via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Alternative, if you have a decent PC, insert an extra HD or SDD and make
> it an Hackintosh and dualboot
>
> check details here: https://www.tonymacx86.com/ on how to do it
>
> You can nicely play with the iOs Simulator
>
>
> Op 15-1-2020 om 21:45 schreef Richmond via use-livecode:
> > See if it sits within the models that can be upgraded to MacOS 10.15 .
> > . .
> >
> > The A1311 was released in late 2011 and can only be updated to MacOS
> > 10.13.6 !
> >
> > If you can get your hands on a Late 2012 Mac mini that will upgrade to
> > MacOS 10.15:
> >
> >
> https://www.kijiji.ca/v-ordinateurs-de-bureau/ville-de-montreal/liquidation-mac-mini-chez-lap-pro-seulement-249/1482471428?undefined
> >
> >
> > Worth a look!
> >
> >
> >
> > On 15.01.20 20:22, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote:
> >> Hi peeps,
> >>
> >> I need to run the ios simulator and build ios apps, so I have to buy an
> >> apple mac.
> >>
> >> I have 0 plans to use it for anything else, so I am buying refurbished.
> >>
> >> Will this system work?  Can someone confirm for me?
> >>
> >>
> https://ca.refurb.io/collections/apple-laptops-ipads/products/apple-imac-a1311-21-5-all-in-one-intel-core-i5-4gb-ram-500gb-hdd-high-sierra-os-refurbished-b-grade
> >>
> >>
> >> I plan on using 9.05 and 9.5 on it.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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Admob integration

[JJS via use-livecode]

No one interested in putting ads in mobile apps to get some extra income?

Op 12-1-2020 om 19:23 schreef JJS via use-livecode:

ok i can search on narkive.com, that's great.


Reading this " With that being said, we are currently working on 
various widgets for LiveCode 8 and one that supports multiple ad 
platforms is currently in the pipeline." here 
https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?t=26794#p139662 looks 
promising but it is still not there.


I even see threads from nearly a decade ago...2011.

any hints on this?


Op 12-1-2020 om 19:04 schreef JJS via use-livecode:

Hi,


how do i search the whole list to get info on some topics.

For now i'm searching for a solution to use Admob.

as i made a thread here: 
https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=33521


Certainly not everyone is using the forum.

So maybe someone has info here on how to add Admob to an Android app. 
(if other dev tools can, we should too)



Thanks.


Regards,

JJS


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Re: Buying a used apple to run ios simulator.

[JJS via use-livecode]

Alternative, if you have a decent PC, insert an extra HD or SDD and make 
it an Hackintosh and dualboot


check details here: https://www.tonymacx86.com/ on how to do it

You can nicely play with the iOs Simulator


Op 15-1-2020 om 21:45 schreef Richmond via use-livecode:
See if it sits within the models that can be upgraded to MacOS 10.15 . 
. .


The A1311 was released in late 2011 and can only be updated to MacOS 
10.13.6 !


If you can get your hands on a Late 2012 Mac mini that will upgrade to 
MacOS 10.15:


https://www.kijiji.ca/v-ordinateurs-de-bureau/ville-de-montreal/liquidation-mac-mini-chez-lap-pro-seulement-249/1482471428?undefined 



Worth a look!



On 15.01.20 20:22, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote:

Hi peeps,

I need to run the ios simulator and build ios apps, so I have to buy an
apple mac.

I have 0 plans to use it for anything else, so I am buying refurbished.

Will this system work?  Can someone confirm for me?

https://ca.refurb.io/collections/apple-laptops-ipads/products/apple-imac-a1311-21-5-all-in-one-intel-core-i5-4gb-ram-500gb-hdd-high-sierra-os-refurbished-b-grade 



I plan on using 9.05 and 9.5 on it.

Thanks,

Tom






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Re: Buying a used apple to run ios simulator.

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

Thank you all for being so dependable and willing to help.  Now I know what
to look for...something that runs 10.15.

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 3:46 PM Richmond via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> See if it sits within the models that can be upgraded to MacOS 10.15 . . .
>
> The A1311 was released in late 2011 and can only be updated to MacOS
> 10.13.6 !
>
> If you can get your hands on a Late 2012 Mac mini that will upgrade to
> MacOS 10.15:
>
>
> https://www.kijiji.ca/v-ordinateurs-de-bureau/ville-de-montreal/liquidation-mac-mini-chez-lap-pro-seulement-249/1482471428?undefined
>
> Worth a look!
>
>
>
> On 15.01.20 20:22, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote:
> > Hi peeps,
> >
> > I need to run the ios simulator and build ios apps, so I have to buy an
> > apple mac.
> >
> > I have 0 plans to use it for anything else, so I am buying refurbished.
> >
> > Will this system work?  Can someone confirm for me?
> >
> >
> https://ca.refurb.io/collections/apple-laptops-ipads/products/apple-imac-a1311-21-5-all-in-one-intel-core-i5-4gb-ram-500gb-hdd-high-sierra-os-refurbished-b-grade
> >
> > I plan on using 9.05 and 9.5 on it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: Buying a used apple to run ios simulator.

[Richmond via use-livecode]

See if it sits within the models that can be upgraded to MacOS 10.15 . . .

The A1311 was released in late 2011 and can only be updated to MacOS 
10.13.6 !


If you can get your hands on a Late 2012 Mac mini that will upgrade to 
MacOS 10.15:


https://www.kijiji.ca/v-ordinateurs-de-bureau/ville-de-montreal/liquidation-mac-mini-chez-lap-pro-seulement-249/1482471428?undefined

Worth a look!



On 15.01.20 20:22, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote:

Hi peeps,

I need to run the ios simulator and build ios apps, so I have to buy an
apple mac.

I have 0 plans to use it for anything else, so I am buying refurbished.

Will this system work?  Can someone confirm for me?

https://ca.refurb.io/collections/apple-laptops-ipads/products/apple-imac-a1311-21-5-all-in-one-intel-core-i5-4gb-ram-500gb-hdd-high-sierra-os-refurbished-b-grade

I plan on using 9.05 and 9.5 on it.

Thanks,

Tom






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Re: encrypting script-only stacks

[Kaveh Bazargan via use-livecode]

On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 19:27, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> On 1/15/20 10:56 AM, Kaveh Bazargan via use-livecode wrote:
> > I want to be able to build standalones often, and I cannot distribute the
> > code. So from what I understand I have to convert these back into
> standard
> > stacks every just before making a standalone, then load them thro the
> > Stacks tab (not Files tab). This is quite labour intensive. I do hope
> there
> > is an automated solution to be able to avoid this.
>
> This is off the top of my head and not tested at all, but here's the idea:
>
> on savingStandalone
>   put "stack1,stack2,stack3...stackn" into tStackList
>   repeat for each item i in tStackList
> set the mainstack of stack i to "myMainStack"
> set the password of stack i to "somePassword"
>   end repeat
> end savingStandalone
>
> Since the above doesn't change the original mainstack I don't think
> you'll need a standaloneSaved handler to undo the changes but see what
> happens. Make backups first.
>

Sounds great Jacqueline. I will give it a go. :-)


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Re: encrypting script-only stacks

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

On 1/15/20 10:56 AM, Kaveh Bazargan via use-livecode wrote:

I want to be able to build standalones often, and I cannot distribute the
code. So from what I understand I have to convert these back into standard
stacks every just before making a standalone, then load them thro the
Stacks tab (not Files tab). This is quite labour intensive. I do hope there
is an automated solution to be able to avoid this.


This is off the top of my head and not tested at all, but here's the idea:

on savingStandalone
 put "stack1,stack2,stack3...stackn" into tStackList
 repeat for each item i in tStackList
   set the mainstack of stack i to "myMainStack"
   set the password of stack i to "somePassword"
 end repeat
end savingStandalone

Since the above doesn't change the original mainstack I don't think 
you'll need a standaloneSaved handler to undo the changes but see what 
happens. Make backups first.


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Re: Buying a used apple to run ios simulator.

[Jerry Jensen via use-livecode]

It could work, but its pretty long in the tooth. Its a 2011 model.
4GB RAM is not enough these days. It is user-upgradable.
USB 2.0 ports are frustratingly slow and, shall I say, less reliable than 3.0 
and above.
That model is at is maximum OS support (10.13). That is also the oldest OS that 
is getting security updates, so next year it will probably cease. 10.15 is 
current. I don’t know the details of iOS and XCode support versions. Maybe 
newer XCode requires newer OS?
.Jerry

> On Jan 15, 2020, at 10:22 AM, Tom Glod via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi peeps,
> 
> I need to run the ios simulator and build ios apps, so I have to buy an
> apple mac.
> 
> I have 0 plans to use it for anything else, so I am buying refurbished.
> 
> Will this system work?  Can someone confirm for me?
> 
> https://ca.refurb.io/collections/apple-laptops-ipads/products/apple-imac-a1311-21-5-all-in-one-intel-core-i5-4gb-ram-500gb-hdd-high-sierra-os-refurbished-b-grade
> 
> I plan on using 9.05 and 9.5 on it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
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RE: WEBP Image Format

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

Hey Rick,

Yes, I have no choice. This in one of many weather icon URLs that our
weather provider delivers via their API. I don't know what the image is
until it's downloaded and displayed. All of the images to date were/are
PNGs. This one seems to be an outlier but I'm worried that more of these may
come my way. I Can't open it up in any app(Windows) except for Chrome. I
display these icons in the app using 24 of these images(one per hour) in a
scrolling group.
The browser widget opens the URL and displays the image. If I knew the size
I guess I could do some convoluted procedure to resize/export the image from
the browser widget to an image to display in a resizable image control.
If the browser widget can open it then the open source library for webp must
be available (conversion widget?).

Headache

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Rick Harrison via use-livecode
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 1:11 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Rick Harrison
Subject: Re: WEBP Image Format

Hi Ralph,

Webp format is a google image format.

Can you convert the image to standard .png before using it or is this
something google is forcing you to use?

Rick

> On Jan 15, 2020, at 11:44 AM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
 wrote:
> 
> I have this link although its url is a .png apparently it's in webp
format.
> This has broken my app.
> 
> https://assets.weatherstack.com/images/wsymbols01_png_64/wsymbol_0007_
> fog.pn
> g
> 
> How do I display this in LC? No shells please as this is a mobile app.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
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Re: Buying a used apple to run ios simulator.

[Greg (Pink) Miller via use-livecode]

First, it is around 9 years old, it can't run Catalina and i am 90% sure it
cannot run Mojave.

Sometime in the near future you will no longer be able to upgrade to the
latest version of XCode at which point you will need a new Mac. It is
possible that you already cannot run it.

So, if you want this to last a few years it may not be the best model.

-
Occam's Razor:  other things being equal, simpler explanations are better
than more complex ones

Mad Pink's Blunt Object: complex, convoluted, and more entertaining
explanations are better than simple, well-reasoned and boring ones


On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 1:22 PM Tom Glod via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi peeps,
>
> I need to run the ios simulator and build ios apps, so I have to buy an
> apple mac.
>
> I have 0 plans to use it for anything else, so I am buying refurbished.
>
> Will this system work?  Can someone confirm for me?
>
>
> https://ca.refurb.io/collections/apple-laptops-ipads/products/apple-imac-a1311-21-5-all-in-one-intel-core-i5-4gb-ram-500gb-hdd-high-sierra-os-refurbished-b-grade
>
> I plan on using 9.05 and 9.5 on it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom
>
>
>
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Buying a used apple to run ios simulator.

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

Hi peeps,

I need to run the ios simulator and build ios apps, so I have to buy an
apple mac.

I have 0 plans to use it for anything else, so I am buying refurbished.

Will this system work?  Can someone confirm for me?

https://ca.refurb.io/collections/apple-laptops-ipads/products/apple-imac-a1311-21-5-all-in-one-intel-core-i5-4gb-ram-500gb-hdd-high-sierra-os-refurbished-b-grade

I plan on using 9.05 and 9.5 on it.

Thanks,

Tom



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Re: WEBP Image Format

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

Hi Ralph,

Webp format is a google image format.

Can you convert the image to standard .png before using it or
is this something google is forcing you to use?

Rick

> On Jan 15, 2020, at 11:44 AM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have this link although its url is a .png apparently it's in webp format.
> This has broken my app.
> 
> https://assets.weatherstack.com/images/wsymbols01_png_64/wsymbol_0007_fog.pn
> g
> 
> How do I display this in LC? No shells please as this is a mobile app.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> 
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Re: encrypting script-only stacks

[Kaveh Bazargan via use-livecode]

On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 16:49, Mark Wieder via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

>
> [...]
>
>  I don't think the SB does that on its own, and I'm not sure it's
> something it should do automatically all the time. In the delivered app
> is there (or should there be) a difference between a substack and a
> stack file?
>
> But it's easy to do in the PI by changing the mainstack property of the
> script-only stack.
>
>
>
Mark, my problem is that I loved the idea of script only stacks so got them
working (7 or more SoS's) that are loaded through the  Files tab of
Standalone Application builder. Obvious advantages are allowing me to
use GitHub and to collaborate as discussed.

I want to be able to build standalones often, and I cannot distribute the
code. So from what I understand I have to convert these back into standard
stacks every just before making a standalone, then load them thro the
Stacks tab (not Files tab). This is quite labour intensive. I do hope there
is an automated solution to be able to avoid this.

I could use Levure and would love to, but it's one more thing to learn and
I feel an overkill for me as all my scripts are now in SoS files.

Kaveh


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Re: encrypting script-only stacks

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 1/14/20 8:54 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:

Mark Wieder wrote:

 > On 1/14/20 7:52 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:
 >
 >> Is it a bug that script-only stacks can't be imported into the
 >> stackfile to become binary substacks?
 >>
 >
 > They can, but it's a one-way operation. Once you've done that the
 > substack and the script-only text file are two different entities.
 > Editing one won't affect the other.

For building standalones that would be fine.  Is that in the Standalone 
Builder, or something every one of us needs to write our own script for?




I don't think the SB does that on its own, and I'm not sure it's 
something it should do automatically all the time. In the delivered app 
is there (or should there be) a difference between a substack and a 
stack file?


But it's easy to do in the PI by changing the mainstack property of the 
script-only stack.


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Re: encrypting script-only stacks

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 1/14/20 9:25 PM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode wrote:


I've only used Github so I can't offer up a comparison. I've been happy
with Github for the most part and my company has been working with it for a
number of years.



Same here. We investigated moving some repos to gitlab some time ago in 
order to keep private repos local, but never made the jump. But that 
seems like a good use case for using an in-house gitlab server.


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WEBP Image Format

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

I have this link although its url is a .png apparently it's in webp format.
This has broken my app.

https://assets.weatherstack.com/images/wsymbols01_png_64/wsymbol_0007_fog.pn
g

How do I display this in LC? No shells please as this is a mobile app.

Thanks

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


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Re: encrypting script-only stacks

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 1/15/20 8:24 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

I REALLY need to start using GIT. I am running into that constantly. Are 
database schema changes gitable, or would I need to create a separate schema?


Export the schema - it's a text file, so it's a good candidate for 
archiving. You won't want to archive binary files, as the git repository 
will grow alarmingly fast.


We accidentally archived an instructional video in a repo some years 
ago, and eventually had to scrap the archive and start over.


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Re: Changing extention on script only stack

[Greg (Pink) Miller via use-livecode]

My need for external editors is mostly for Windows (again, the Windows
machines I use are very very old).
I also like reviewing and editing code on my iPad when I am on the go, so
having external scripts is useful even when I don't have LC running. What
else am I going to do at a red light?

but I also have gotten used to using Atom and love it because it is highly
customizable, I can just do a lot from within it that I can't do in the
built-in editor, I can pull and push from Github, I can leave myself
bookmarks and use macros... it's terrific... and faster

the only reasons I ever use the built-in script editor is for watching
variable values, debugging, breakpoints and stepping through scripts... and
I hate when I have to do that because of its performance

Honestly, instead of asking the LC team to beef up the built-in editor, I
would rather they work on providing those debugging capabilities and other
features with external editors. Ditch the built-in editor for a more
seamless integration with Atom (I would argue it is the best option since
it is cross-platform and free.) Heck maybe it just needs one single good
Atom plugin to catch signals from Livecode similar to the remote debugger.
Since I have no idea how it really works I am just assuming it would be
easy to modify ;)

And if I am making whoever is in charge of the built-in editor cry, you are
still loved, and we'll try not to get rid of you


On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 5:08 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Bob Sneidar wrote:
>
>  > Let's remember this is just Windows we are talking about. I have no
>  > issues whatsoever with the OS X version of LC Script Editor...
>
> While performance issues are most evident on Windows, there's some
> noticeable lag on Mac too.  Most who use external editors here are on Mac.
>
> And then there are oddities that affect all platforms, like the line
> numbers getting out of sync with the text when scrolling.
>
>
>  > ...but the few times I really needed to code and debug in Windows
>  > it was like scratching my eyes out with a toothpick.
>
> Yeah, that.
>
> I'll throw in a debugger for free if someone takes me up on by editor
> offer.
>
> --
>   Richard Gaskin
>   Fourth World Systems
>   Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
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Re: encrypting script-only stacks

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

I REALLY need to start using GIT. I am running into that constantly. Are 
database schema changes gitable, or would I need to create a separate schema?

Bob S


> On Jan 14, 2020, at 20:36 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 1/14/20 9:46 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:
> 
>> Beyond backup across versions (since that's widely available in most cloud 
>> storage for even binary files), that Git features do you find most valuable?
> 
> As in Trevor's description, the advantage of being able to create new 
> branches for experimental work can't be overstated.
> 
> Consider: you have a working project and want to try making some changes that 
> may or may not work. And that may or may not stop existing things from 
> working. Or maybe you just want to try some A-B testing and be able to create 
> two different versions. Or create a new version and be able to do some 
> performance benchmarking.
> 
> All without messing with your existing product code.
> 
> If it works you can merge the branch into the main code. If not then just 
> dump the branch and you haven't lost anything except some time.
> 
> I also use tagging in git to set release values, so that I can easily see 
> what's changed from one release to the next.
> 
> -- 
> Mark Wieder
> ahsoftw...@gmail.com


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