Re: Go to card has become slow

2020-04-06 Thread Neville Smythe via use-livecode
Richard wrote > Bob Sneidar wrote: > >> In review, I tested saving stacks on a standalone Windows Workstation, >> a VMWARE VM on a very robust server host, a Parallels VM on a >> workstation and my Mac. As I am saving the stack, I am watching the >> folder the stack is in. I see the tilde versio

Re: Devolution bug

2020-04-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Andre Garzia wrote: > I just reinstalled LC and Devolution here but every time I try opening > any of the panes, it does an audible chime. Trying to click any of the > tabs in the first pane (the one with about, check for updates, etc) > just sounds the chime and doesn't change anything. It feels

Devolution bug

2020-04-06 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
Hi Folks, I just reinstalled LC and Devolution here but every time I try opening any of the panes, it does an audible chime. Trying to click any of the tabs in the first pane (the one with about, check for updates, etc) just sounds the chime and doesn't change anything. It feels like there is a mo

Re: ANN: glx2 script editor 4.0

2020-04-06 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Mark has identified some anomalies and is presently working on it. Bob S On Apr 6, 2020, at 4:48 PM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: I'm also experiencing some oddities with GLX2 4.0.1 here. I've uploaded a screenshot to: http://andregarzia.com/img

Re: ANN: glx2 script editor 4.0

2020-04-06 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
I'm also experiencing some oddities with GLX2 4.0.1 here. I've uploaded a screenshot to: http://andregarzia.com/img/shots/glx2/glx2-strange.png * The GLX2 bar is misplaced and even though it moves when I move the main LC menu, it moves to the wrong location. * The menubar in the GLX2 script edit

Apps to fight COVID-19

2020-04-06 Thread Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode
Hi, everybody! I apologize for the drive-by email. And I miss everybody on the list. Been busy all that. I am a strong believer in contact tracing as an implortant part of COVID-19 containment. There are several teams out there working on voluntary privacy-protecting contact tracing apps to

Re: Maximum field height?

2020-04-06 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
Hi Jacque, Scott made many of the same good points as you did - so I won't replicate my replies here. On 06/04/2020 05:20, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: On April 5, 2020 8:39:15 PM Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: 1. xTalk features just don't work, or work totally inadequatel

Re: Old Fossil seeks fast track assistance

2020-04-06 Thread scott--- via use-livecode
Thanks for these links! -- Scott Morrow Elementary Software (Now with 20% less chalk dust!) web https://elementarysoftware.com/ email sc...@elementarysoftware.com booth1-800-615-0867 -- > On Apr 6, 2020, at 7:55 AM, Devin Asay via

Re: Mobile Wondering

2020-04-06 Thread scott--- via use-livecode
That was my experience too… until LC added native support for other Android processors. Now I find the Android emulator to be very usable! — Scott Morrow Elementary Software (Now with 20% less chalk dust!) web https://elementarysoftware.com/ email sc...@elementarysoftware.com booth1

Re: ANN: glx2 script editor 4.0

2020-04-06 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I suspect the repeated LC SE reversion is the same issue as prefs not sticking. Bob S On Apr 6, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Bob Sneidar mailto:bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com>> wrote: seeing some of the same things. There was an issue where the GLX2 menu under certain conditions would become the custom men

Re: ANN: glx2 script editor 4.0

2020-04-06 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
seeing some of the same things. There was an issue where the GLX2 menu under certain conditions would become the custom menu of the open GLX2 SE, and the system menu would revert back to the default. If the GLX2 menu becomes the System Menu you cannot access the default System Manu at all. Bob

Re: ANN: glx2 script editor 4.0

2020-04-06 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
regard 3. I meant ...changing the size manually in AN editor (while LC is not running) - Matthias Rebbe Life Is Too Short For Boring Code > Am 06.04.2020 um 22:38 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode > : > > Mark, > where do you want feedback? I place it here for now. > > > Tested n

Re: ANN: glx2 script editor 4.0

2020-04-06 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Mark, where do you want feedback? I place it here for now. Tested now with LC 9.5.1, 9.6.0DP3 on Mac OS 10.14.6 with two displays. 1. the GLX2 bar is not under the LC menubar. It´s placed on the right of the screen see https://livecode.dermattes.de/screenshots/glx2_bar.png And it seems that

Re: ANN: glx2 script editor 4.0

2020-04-06 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Normally I wouldn’t, but in the past for one reason or another I turned off GLX2 to get to the script editor, and somewhere in the process of turning it off and on, a lot of new coding disappeared. That was long ago though, and I may not even be looking at the same problem. It seems that once th

Re: ANN: glx2 script editor 4.0

2020-04-06 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 4/6/20 12:36 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: This may be fixed in 4.0.1. I’ll check. OK I verified that if I make a change in GLX2, then switch to the Native SE, I see the change. If however I make a change in the Native SE, then switch to GLX2, it does NOT reflect the change. If h

Re: Who else doesn't want auto-select when opening a card?

2020-04-06 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I ALWAYS want that. Nevertheless, have you tried select nothing in after OpenCard? Bob S On Apr 6, 2020, at 11:39 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: This makes me crazy. I almost never want the first field selected when I go to a card, particula

Re: ANN: glx2 script editor 4.0

2020-04-06 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
This may be fixed in 4.0.1. I’ll check. OK I verified that if I make a change in GLX2, then switch to the Native SE, I see the change. If however I make a change in the Native SE, then switch to GLX2, it does NOT reflect the change. If however I SAVE the stack, THEN GLX2 sees the code change. I

Re: ANN: glx2 script editor 4.0

2020-04-06 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
Ack! Bernd just hipped me to the fact that I uploaded the wrong version. It *should* identify itself as version 4.0.1 if you've got the right one. If not, download it again - I *think* I've got the right one uploaded to bitbucket now. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com

Re: ANN: glx2 script editor 4.0

2020-04-06 Thread Mark Talluto via use-livecode
> > On Apr 6, 2020, at 12:08 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 4/6/20 11:49 AM, Mark Talluto via use-livecode wrote: > >> Quick question: I am interested in using the ‘Chalkboard Motiff’. When I >> select it I do not see a change in the look. Same when I close the prefs. >> Wh

Re: Socket Help

2020-04-06 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Both. The Windows lag is present on the LAN and Internet. The Internet does not seem to be introducing any lag, or so little it’s not detectable. On Apr 6, 2020, at 11:50 AM, Phil Davis via use-livecode mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: Hi Bob, I'm realizing now that your system co

Re: ANN: glx2 script editor 4.0

2020-04-06 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 4/6/20 11:49 AM, Mark Talluto via use-livecode wrote: Quick question: I am interested in using the ‘Chalkboard Motiff’. When I select it I do not see a change in the look. Same when I close the prefs. What am I missing? The same is true for changing the font size. I changed the font to “Sou

Re: Socket Help

2020-04-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Thanks for the example, Bob. Yes, it does seem very conclusive. Do you know if there's an existing bug report for this? I've seen a few other Win-specific reports, but the ones I recall were mostly about file I/O, and I don't recall one for network I/O. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Syste

Re: Who else doesn't want auto-select when opening a card?

2020-04-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
J. Landman Gay wrote: > I want a property or setting that lets me turn off this default > behavior. It's annoying and disruptive, and has been there since > day one. I lost count of how many times I've seen that come up in the forums over the years. What you propose seems reasonable and usefu

Re: ANN: glx2 script editor 4.0

2020-04-06 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Whoa! Quite a bit smaller! I’ll check it out. Really excited! I loved GLX2 but the code loss on OS X when switching GLX2 on and off was killing me! I will back things up and check for that. Bob S ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runre

Re: Socket Help

2020-04-06 Thread Phil Davis via use-livecode
Hi Bob, I'm realizing now that your system connects client and server via the internet. Mine connects them via LAN. Big security difference! In another system I wrote that connects client & server over the internet, the server does this upon receiving a request: does a 'wait flag' (temp

Re: Who else doesn't want auto-select when opening a card?

2020-04-06 Thread Mark Talluto via use-livecode
On Apr 6, 2020, at 11:39 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: > > This makes me crazy. I almost never want the first field selected when I go > to a card, particularly on mobile. And god forbid the first field is a list > field, where the first line is hilited whenever the stack resumes

Re: Socket Help

2020-04-06 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Hi Richard. Just to be absolutely certain I excluded any other factors, I tested retrieving data from mySQL from a Mac and from a PC using only the Message Box (no UI). Since I am out of the office, I can only test my Mac remotely. I can however remote into the mySQL server at work which is r

Re: ANN: glx2 script editor 4.0

2020-04-06 Thread Mark Talluto via use-livecode
On Apr 6, 2020, at 11:08 AM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: > > I posted this to the web forum last night and figured I should put it in the > list as well... so here's something to help with working in isolation. Nice work Mark. I am giving it a try right now. I am interested in to seein

Re: Socket Help

2020-04-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > I was a big believer that SSL was never going to be compromised… until > it was. The retooling of industry security standards over the last 6 > years or so has taught me the opposite: NEVER rely on out of the box > security if you can help it. After acknowledging how bugs ca

Who else doesn't want auto-select when opening a card?

2020-04-06 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
This makes me crazy. I almost never want the first field selected when I go to a card, particularly on mobile. And god forbid the first field is a list field, where the first line is hilited whenever the stack resumes focus, even if the hilitedline was 0. The workaround is tedious: on preOpenCa

Re: Mobile Wondering

2020-04-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
When a desktop theme manager isn't available, LC reverts to its built-in emulated Motif, hence the odd appearance (which is awesome if you love NeXT, and horribly confusing to literally every newcomer if they're not ancient enough to remember the old Unix UI and know the intricacies of MetaCard

Re: Problems locating Android SDK

2020-04-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Skip Kimpel wrote: > Richard, > > It took me two attempts at the Android Studio install. I realized > during the first attempt that I had cut it short before it had > finished everything. After re-installing, it worked just fine. Thank you, Skip (and good to see you back on this list, BTW). W

Re: Problems locating Android SDK

2020-04-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Colin Holgate wrote: > You may have read the path where tools are as being where you need to > point LiveCode to. Point LiveCode to ~/Library/Android/SDK, and not > ~/Library/Android/SDK/Tools Thank you, Colin. ~/Android/SDK/ is where I pointed it (Ubuntu 18.04). -- Richard Gaskin Fourth Wo

ANN: glx2 script editor 4.0

2020-04-06 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
I posted this to the web forum last night and figured I should put it in the list as well... so here's something to help with working in isolation. Whew! It's been a long time since I've updated this. I really thought I had made my peace with the built-in script editor, but I recently had to lo

Re: Problems locating Android SDK

2020-04-06 Thread Skip Kimpel via use-livecode
Richard, It took me two attempts at the Android Studio install. I realized during the first attempt that I had cut it short before it had finished everything. After re-installing, it worked just fine. SKIP On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 1:47 PM Colin Holgate via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runre

Re: Go to card has become slow

2020-04-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > On Apr 6, 2020, at 9:28 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> Your application writing data to disk is a very different thing from >> Windows Desktop Explorer automatically refreshing a directory view. > > Control doesn’t return to the application until the tilde version goes > away

Re: Mobile Wondering

2020-04-06 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 4/6/20 10:12 AM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: But, afaik, it's not just scrolling fields; aren't there also issues with keyboard input requiring you to scroll / move the field to remain visible, That was fixed recently with mobileSetKeyboardDisplay. Also, besides mouse events workin

Re: Mobile Wondering

2020-04-06 Thread Neville Smythe via use-livecode
I had been wondering when the third-class status of mobile platforms in the LC world, particularly in relation to scrolling fields and groups, would crop up here. Some time ago I looked at converting an iOS project to LC, and was appalled at the crude 1984-style appearance of scroll bars. I pre

Re: Problems locating Android SDK

2020-04-06 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
You may have read the path where tools are as being where you need to point LiveCode to. Point LiveCode to ~/Library/Android/SDK, and not ~/Library/Android/SDK/Tools > On Apr 6, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > Colin Holgate wrote: > > > On Apr 6, 2020, at 10:

Re: Go to card has become slow

2020-04-06 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
You are testing low level file operations. I am testing the saving of a Livecode stack. I don’t think this test applies. Bob S On Apr 6, 2020, at 9:28 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: on mouseUp put the long seconds into t write "somedata" to

Re: Go to card has become slow

2020-04-06 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Control doesn’t return to the application until the tilde version goes away. On Apr 6, 2020, at 9:28 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: Your application writing data to disk is a very different thing from Windows Desktop Explorer automatically refr

Re: Socket Help

2020-04-06 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I was a big believer that SSL was never going to be compromised… until it was. The retooling of industry security standards over the last 6 years or so has taught me the opposite: NEVER rely on out of the box security if you can help it. Asking a web server to get data and return it introduces

Re: Problems locating Android SDK

2020-04-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Colin Holgate wrote: > On Apr 6, 2020, at 10:14 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> I'm setting up a new machine for Android development. >> >> Where is the one-page list of steps on the livecode.com site that >> reliably guides a new user through this for all supported platforms >> (Mac, Win, Linux)

Re: Mobile Wondering

2020-04-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Alex Tweedly wrote: > On 06/04/2020 03:55, scott--- via use-livecode wrote: >>> 1. xTalk features just don't work, or work totally inadequately >>> (e.g. scrolling fields). >> I feel this is overly harsh. Livecode fields (and the creation of >> native UIText fields) do work on mobile. I think the

Re: Problems locating Android SDK

2020-04-06 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
That link does work, and helps to solve the problem. The current Android Studio comes with Android 10 installed, and LiveCode needs Android 9. > On Apr 6, 2020, at 10:14 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > I'm setting up a new machine for Android development. > > Where is the on

Re: Go to card has become slow

2020-04-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > In review, I tested saving stacks on a standalone Windows Workstation, > a VMWARE VM on a very robust server host, a Parallels VM on a > workstation and my Mac. As I am saving the stack, I am watching the > folder the stack is in. I see the tilde version pop up and go away. O

Re: Go to card has become slow

2020-04-06 Thread doc hawk via use-livecode
On Apr 5, 2020, at 11:18 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: > > I don’t think LC accepts multiple statement transactions at all, does it? I’d be dead int the water if it didn’t. ;) I’m flat out *dependent* on these—opening a debtor in my software requires several hundred entries to be p

[ANN] This Week in LiveCode 220

2020-04-06 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi all, Read about new developments in LiveCode open source and the open source community in today's edition of the "This Week in LiveCode" newsletter! Read issue #220 here: https://bit.ly/2XdS03z This is a weekly newsletter about LiveCode, focussing on what's been going on in and around

Re: Socket Help

2020-04-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > I’m curious how this client server method handles multiple > simultaneous connections? I had the idea of having a listener agent > spawn an SQL Agent stack the first time a client connected, that would > then listen on a random port. The listener agent would return the > rand

Re: Maximum field height?

2020-04-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > I’m curious though if a library could be created so that a handler for > a mobile message (let’s say a touch message) could “translate” into a > desktop message? In this way, the app on the mobile would send a > mouseUp message to the target. Why not? Most developers I know

Re: Problems locating Android SDK

2020-04-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
I'm setting up a new machine for Android development. Where is the one-page list of steps on the livecode.com site that reliably guides a new user through this for all supported platforms (Mac, Win, Linux)? This one fails: http://lessons.livecode.com/m/2571/l/625198-livecode-and-android-studi

Re: Maximum field height?

2020-04-06 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Touch messages already send duplicate mouse messages. In fact, unless you need two-finger zooming, you don't need touch handlers at all. I only use standard mouse handlers generally because they wotk on both mobile and desktop. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive So

Re: Our first Community Zoom Session

2020-04-06 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
Me too! On 6 Apr 2020, 11:40 +0100, Andre Garzia via use-livecode , wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I missed the meeting, is there a recording available? > > Best > A. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,

Re: Go to card has become slow

2020-04-06 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Hi Richard. In review, I tested saving stacks on a standalone Windows Workstation, a VMWARE VM on a very robust server host, a Parallels VM on a workstation and my Mac. As I am saving the stack, I am watching the folder the stack is in. I see the tilde version pop up and go away. On Mac it’s al

Re: Mobile Wondering

2020-04-06 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
On 06/04/2020 03:55, scott--- via use-livecode wrote: 1. xTalk features just don't work, or work totally inadequately (e.g. scrolling fields). I feel this is overly harsh. Livecode fields (and the creation of native UIText fields) do work on mobile. I think the issue is that the use of some o

Re: Maximum field height?

2020-04-06 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I think that would kill the Apple Desktop OS. Bob S On Apr 6, 2020, at 6:37 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: Apple is absolutely working towards iOS and macOS being highly similar. However, if you're hoping that brings increased simplicity of appl

Re: Maximum field height?

2020-04-06 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
There’s the rub I think. For RunRev (is the company still called that?) to make what mobile objects they can universal, and leave the others as is would then create a situation where developers would have to know what controls were universal, and which were Mobile/Desktop only. It just adds anot

Re: Old Fossil seeks fast track assistance

2020-04-06 Thread Devin Asay via use-livecode
Graham, I’ve just been through this gauntlet with my students. I provided some links and lessons for them at http://livecode.byu.edu/mobile/test-deploy-links.php. I found the process for setting up Android a little fraught with pitfalls, so I created an expanded instruction sheet for Android se

Re: Socket Help

2020-04-06 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Hi Phil. Thanks for the reply. I’m curious how this client server method handles multiple simultaneous connections? I had the idea of having a listener agent spawn an SQL Agent stack the first time a client connected, that would then listen on a random port. The listener agent would return the

Re: Maximum field height?

2020-04-06 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 4/5/2020 10:48 PM, JB via use-livecode wrote: The question is why don’t they make them compatible? Is their some kind of FCC regulation that prevents Apple from using phone apps on the desktop? Back in the HyperCard days there was hyperDialer and I really liked it a lot but I think the compa

Re: Our first Community Zoom Session

2020-04-06 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
Hi Folks, I missed the meeting, is there a recording available? Best A. On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 11:31, Heather Laine via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Dear list folks, > > I have now scheduled our first zoom meeting, open to anyone who wishes to > discuss LiveCode, share