Re: Web help needed

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Mike Doub wrote:

> I need to move hundreds of files from my desktop Mac to my server.
> I’m looking for advise as to how best to do this.

rsync

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Web help needed

[Mike Doub via use-livecode]

I am a rookie at web stuff.  I have a couple of end point api’s set up to use 
with simple forms.  Got that working with .lc file that starts using a LiveCode 
stack that does the work.

I need to move hundreds of files from my desktop Mac to my server.   I’m 
looking for advise as to how best to do this.  I was thinking about creating an 
endpoint on my server that my desktop app would use.  But, I don’t understand 
how that might work.

I need some help for some experience web folks.  How do I go about moving 
files?   Most of them are text, but I would like to understand how to deal with 
binary files too (thinking images).  All of the examples I see are for a user 
interface form and that does not make sense for the number of files I need to 
move.

Thanks in advance.
      -= Mike
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Re: fixed textheight affects scrolling?

[Stephen Barncard via use-livecode]

Girls! Time to take this spat off list, please. I don’t want to see this.

Remember the admonition about politics religion and cheese?

On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 03:03 Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> To all,
>
> sorry for this, I should have kept if off-list and I apologize, but this
> is my last mail in this respect!
>
>
> @Curry,
>
> > Am 11.07.2020 um 00:04 schrieb Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> >
> > Klaus:
> > >...
> > > any news about "FieldTrip"? This is not funny anymore.
> > > I turned 64 last month and I would really like to get
> > > something for my money before I die!
> > Klaus, let me say that your "National Socialist" approach
>
> No idea what that may be, but it is surely not nice.
> I do my best, but in the end I am not a native english speaker.
>
> > to harassing me, every single chance you get, is also not funny anymore!
>
> I dared to ask about 3 (THREE) times in the last seven years, not at every
> single chance I got.
> The first time I did, you even made fun of me, also not very kind.
>
> > Nor is giving people the FALSE and fake impression that you did not get
> a product for your money.
>
> I got a one BETA and no update since 2013.
>
> > I resent that slur, along with your continued harassment and
> mean-spirited, inaccurate disinformation campaign. It is as fundamentally
> flawed as your field test code. Maybe a pattern?
>
> Oh my, that is very close to the wind and a cheap tit-for-tat response!
>
> > FT was delivered.
>
> > You got the LC 6 product you paid for.
>
> One BETA was delivered!
> I bought it at a time where I did not have much money, but wanted to
> support everything related to LC
> so I am not very happy that no final version has been delivered since.
>
> I personally don't find it OK to sell software, take the customers money
> and deliver one beta version of that software in years.
> But you do.
>
> > LC pulled out the rug shortly after; LC 7 stopped working with some
> existing code, and not the other way around. Technically 7 was supposed to
> work with the existing code, and the team was working through BC issues,
> but ah well. My flagship products were more fortunate (with a lot of help
> from myself in testing and reporting issues) but LC 7 was released before
> that could happen for FT.
>
> Interesting, so it is LCs fault in the end.
> If I only had known this before!
>
> > Since then, WordLib and WordReport have remained higher priorities. FT
> will be revived and updated; looking forward to it very much. But that will
> be AFTER the other flagship addons are updated. Not before. Harassment
> won't change that. Nor will falsehoods or bad behavior.
> > (Hint: currently WordReport is first in line!)
> >
> > I cleared up your little scrolling field mystery for you, and in return,
> this is how you act?! Now, let's see how logical you can be, Klaus. Take a
> good look at the length of this message. I'm keeping it as short as
> possible, but obviously it still takes some time to carefully answer your
> careless slur.
> >
> > That does NOT speed up anything, including FT. But it does waste
> valuable time and slow things down. It's not furthering the outcome you
> seek. It also destroys goodwill and friendship, and it spreads falsehood.
> On top of that I'm handicapped and I don't have free time to waste. All bad
> results of these little slurs about FT and myself.
>
> Please, let's dial it back a notch!
> You don't want to make me responsible for all of your personal problems
> and even your handicap, do you?
>
> > I would appreciate polite inquiries, or reminders, but this is way out
> of line. Every time I post here, you do this.
>
> Not true, see above...
>
> > You keep calling for my attention, and you got it.
> > So, here's what I'll do. If you keep up this "National Socialist" style
> of harassment, I'll just pay a little more attention to your posts and
> correct more of the inaccurate statements that you make about LC code and
> technologies. I will also refer back to this post to save time, so that my
> corrections are as efficient as your falsehoods.
> > I've had to make "Klaus corrections" about other LC matters (regular LC
> how-to and facts/tips, not about FT) on a regular basis over the years,
> usually very quietly off-list!
>
> And another laughable, untenable and very cheap tit-for-tat response!
>
> > But I'll be happy to make more public corrections, more often, if
> needed. Or if you lay off the harassment, then as a natural result (math,
> time) everything will happen a little faster, including FT. The choice is
> yours.
>
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Curry Kenworthy
>
> I find your response rather "Mimimi" and highly exaggerated in many parts
> and I really start to feel sorry for you.
> But don't worry, I will not bother you again.
>
>
> Klaus
>
> --
> Klaus Major
> https://www.major-k.de
> kl...@major-k.de
>
>
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Re: fixed textheight affects scrolling?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

To all,

sorry for this, I should have kept if off-list and I apologize, but this is my 
last mail in this respect!


@Curry,

> Am 11.07.2020 um 00:04 schrieb Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Klaus:
> >...
> > any news about "FieldTrip"? This is not funny anymore.
> > I turned 64 last month and I would really like to get
> > something for my money before I die!
> Klaus, let me say that your "National Socialist" approach

No idea what that may be, but it is surely not nice.
I do my best, but in the end I am not a native english speaker.

> to harassing me, every single chance you get, is also not funny anymore!

I dared to ask about 3 (THREE) times in the last seven years, not at every 
single chance I got.
The first time I did, you even made fun of me, also not very kind.

> Nor is giving people the FALSE and fake impression that you did not get a 
> product for your money.

I got a one BETA and no update since 2013.

> I resent that slur, along with your continued harassment and mean-spirited, 
> inaccurate disinformation campaign. It is as fundamentally flawed as your 
> field test code. Maybe a pattern?

Oh my, that is very close to the wind and a cheap tit-for-tat response!

> FT was delivered.

> You got the LC 6 product you paid for.

One BETA was delivered!
I bought it at a time where I did not have much money, but wanted to support 
everything related to LC
so I am not very happy that no final version has been delivered since. 

I personally don't find it OK to sell software, take the customers money and 
deliver one beta version of that software in years.
But you do.

> LC pulled out the rug shortly after; LC 7 stopped working with some existing 
> code, and not the other way around. Technically 7 was supposed to work with 
> the existing code, and the team was working through BC issues, but ah well. 
> My flagship products were more fortunate (with a lot of help from myself in 
> testing and reporting issues) but LC 7 was released before that could happen 
> for FT.

Interesting, so it is LCs fault in the end.
If I only had known this before!

> Since then, WordLib and WordReport have remained higher priorities. FT will 
> be revived and updated; looking forward to it very much. But that will be 
> AFTER the other flagship addons are updated. Not before. Harassment won't 
> change that. Nor will falsehoods or bad behavior.
> (Hint: currently WordReport is first in line!)
> 
> I cleared up your little scrolling field mystery for you, and in return, this 
> is how you act?! Now, let's see how logical you can be, Klaus. Take a good 
> look at the length of this message. I'm keeping it as short as possible, but 
> obviously it still takes some time to carefully answer your careless slur.
> 
> That does NOT speed up anything, including FT. But it does waste valuable 
> time and slow things down. It's not furthering the outcome you seek. It also 
> destroys goodwill and friendship, and it spreads falsehood. On top of that 
> I'm handicapped and I don't have free time to waste. All bad results of these 
> little slurs about FT and myself.

Please, let's dial it back a notch!
You don't want to make me responsible for all of your personal problems and 
even your handicap, do you?

> I would appreciate polite inquiries, or reminders, but this is way out of 
> line. Every time I post here, you do this.

Not true, see above...

> You keep calling for my attention, and you got it.
> So, here's what I'll do. If you keep up this "National Socialist" style of 
> harassment, I'll just pay a little more attention to your posts and correct 
> more of the inaccurate statements that you make about LC code and 
> technologies. I will also refer back to this post to save time, so that my 
> corrections are as efficient as your falsehoods.
> I've had to make "Klaus corrections" about other LC matters (regular LC 
> how-to and facts/tips, not about FT) on a regular basis over the years, 
> usually very quietly off-list! 

And another laughable, untenable and very cheap tit-for-tat response!

> But I'll be happy to make more public corrections, more often, if needed. Or 
> if you lay off the harassment, then as a natural result (math, time) 
> everything will happen a little faster, including FT. The choice is yours. 

> Best wishes,
> 
> Curry Kenworthy

I find your response rather "Mimimi" and highly exaggerated in many parts and I 
really start to feel sorry for you.
But don't worry, I will not bother you again.


Klaus

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https://www.major-k.de
kl...@major-k.de


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Re: FieldTrip (WAS: fixed textheight affects scrolling?)

[Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode]

Stephen:

> Girls! Time to take this spat off list, please.

Ah good, belittling a gender! That helps. Otherwise agreed; I don't want 
to see this either.


But as this was a very public attack on a very LC product, and strayed 
from the facts, that didn't leave me much choice. Public inaccuracies 
require public corrections.


Klaus:

> One BETA was delivered!

As you say: delivered. But I believe it was two betas, not one.

The denigration of "beta" is a marketing school of thought, nothing more 
or less. I used to keep all of my products in beta for YEARS (since I 
belonged to another school of thought, with very high emphasis on 
quality) until being forced out of it by the former school of thought 
being officially adopted here.


> Interesting, so it is LCs fault in the end.

Facts, not fault. Very different! Not everyone is interested in facts, 
but that doesn't erase them or make them less important/relevant.


FT was designed for LiveCode during the time of LC 5/6, if I recall 
correctly. It was also designed within the budget we funded. That 
product was coded and delivered. Klaus received what he paid for. He 
hasn't received an update yet; nor has he paid for one. That doesn't 
mean I don't WANT an update, and I certainly didn't want LC 7 to be 
incompatible with this or any other product. But of course the product 
was delivered as paid.


As I said:

> LC 7 stopped working with some existing code, and not the other
> way around. Technically 7 was supposed to work with the existing
> code, and the team was working through BC issues,
> but ah well. My flagship products were more fortunate
> (with a lot of help from myself in testing and reporting issues)
> but LC 7 was released before that could happen for FT.

So technically this should have been part of the LC 7 compatibility 
effort, that is undeniable fact, but LC 7 was released before it could 
happen. That didn't help. My products were originally budgeted for 
efficient building on a fairly firm foundation, not immediate and 
frequent rewrites.


The huge LC 7 and 8 changes, and the many LC bugs introduced during that 
period, required substantial changes and LC bug-hunting for many or most 
LC projects which contain substantial code. That was originally 
unplanned and unbudgeted, and is very much ongoing. As I've said before, 
I can't really complain; I've made a large part of my living for many 
years from LC 7-9 bugs and changes!


But it did hurt FT, since FT was unlucky enough to miss out on the 
official 7 compatibility efforts, and also could not benefit from my own 
first efforts. My first attention had to go to the flagship products. 
That doesn't make me happy either, but it is the reality. There simply 
was no other choice.


Whereas many other LC projects have simply fallen by the wayside since 
LC 7, I'm proud that FT is still very much on my list!


But again:

> FT will be revived and updated; looking forward to it very much.
> But that will be AFTER the other flagship addons are updated.
> Not before. Harassment won't change that.
> Nor will falsehoods or bad behavior.
> (Hint: currently WordReport is first in line!)

Client projects ALWAYS come first, no matter what.
Then the flagship products. This is the priority I will follow.

Klaus:

> I really start to feel sorry for you.

Regarding my own handicap, it's simply another fact that unfortunately 
has become somewhat relevant in this case. Nothing more or less.


FT was planned and budgeted for an efficient development process, not 
immediate and frequent rewrites.


I've always loved efficiency and the real benefits and cost savings it 
brings to software development. Always a hardcore fan. But since being 
diagnosed with a progressive neuromuscular disease, efficiency is my 
lifeline! I no longer have the option of doing things another way.


I'm proud to be one of the top LiveCode developers and consultants, 
achieving more than most despite my handicap! And I have some incredible 
strengths, so I'm not complaining. I could easily feel sorry for others. 
I have some "super powers" when it comes to code. I'm very powerful in 
that regard and I thank God for my many blessings, which incidentally 
include LiveCode itself, and my wonderful clients!


But when it comes to time and energy, I just don't have the option of 
being inefficient. Nor do I have "free time" in the sense that most 
people do. I can't just arbitrarily decide to work extra whenever I feel 
like it; my body will no longer let me. Work has to be planned and 
prioritized. And I get things done - achieving a lot of work for my 
clients each year, and also making progress toward updates on my 
flagship addons!


But unfortunately FT has had to wait, for a number of years, as Klaus 
has emphasized. Nevertheless it's coming, in its turn. If I have to 
write big emails to correct inaccurate statements, or deal with 
harassment, it truly does take significant time away from work and slow 
things down. I 

Re: sorting lines by date

[Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode]

Like everything field and text related, this thread caught my eye! :)

One of my favorite areas of LiveCode, and also one of the areas I have 
to actively keep an eye on since I rely on it a lot.


Here's an observation that might help in one way or another

David:

> http://adomain/27/06/2016 8:10

> set itemdel to tab
> sort lines of field "import" datetime by the last item of each

> the order above is generated.
> I can’t see any meaningful ordering of the lines.

I was curious and copied your content into a field where I changed the 
date format of the dates, like so:


http://adomain/ 06/27/2016 8:10
http://adomain/ 11/17/2013 22:18

And for me, over here on this side of the ocean (cue Trump rally: USA! 
USA!) that both looks good, and works well, using your unmodified code. 
The lines without a date also stacked up at the top, as you predicted, 
and as I know to be the normal LC sort behavior.


I realize you need the British format, but again out of curiosity and to 
make sure everything LC datewise is working properly, you might try your 
sort again, with a few lines of your content and that modification.


(There is also a useSystemDate keyword that you could test.)

Regardless, be assured that ABSOLUTELY it is possible to have datetime 
sorts working well in fields or text with tabbed columns. Have no doubts 
or fears in that regard. I very recently delivered a client project, 
this year, with that feature.


The only question is efficiency. It would be better and faster to get 
the datetime sort working directly with your content.


But if not, you can also sort with a custom function, and then the sky 
is the limit! LC sort really is powerful and flexible.


But I would like to know the outcome, so when this is resolved, thanks 
in advance for posting again to let us know what worked!


Best wishes,

Curry Kenworthy

Custom Software Development
"Better Methods, Better Results"
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Re: A shipment from order #896026 is on the way

[Martin Koob via use-livecode]

Hi

Thanks for the notification regarding shipping the product.  However, when I 
try to track the package I get the following message on the FedEx webpage.

Not found 
This tracking number cannot be found, please check the number or contact the 
sender.



Is   17954012690 the correct tracking number?

Thanks

Martin Koob


> On Jul 10, 2020, at 6:21 PM, Raycon  wrote:
> 
>  
> YOUR ORDER HAS SHIPPED
> 
> Order #896026
> All of the items from your order are on their way to your address!
> 
> The Performer E55 Wireless Earbuds - Titanium
> 
> Quantity: 1
> They are being shipped via APCL with last mile delivery by USPS to the 
> following address:
> Nolan Smith
> 73 Hart Ave.
> Toronto, Ontario M1K3H3
> Canada
> The tracking number for these items is 17954012690. Use the link below to 
> see the status of your shipment:
> TRACK PACKAGE 
> 
> Please allow some time for the status of the shipment to correctly display at 
> the above address.
> Thanks again for your order!
>  
>  
>  
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