Yes, Jobs killed a lot of things that were losing money - but that does not
explain why Apple would not open-source Hypercard if it didn't want to
support it. It was possible to stop the losses without killing the product,
but he chose not to. There had to be a reason for that.
I recall calling on
I worked in Apple tech support in the UK, from October 1987 to end of Jan 1992,
and when I met HyperCard, which was very young at the time, I told my manager
that I thought it was going to be huge. He asked why, and I said, well, it's
like programming for the rest of us. He agreed.
When I start
Todd-
Thursday, December 1, 2011, 5:15:12 PM, you wrote:
> The part that I most liked about the linked article was the emphasis on
> explorability. I think HyperCard had it. My other Tool FileMaker had it.
> FileMaker has less of it today. And I think that LiveCode is not as
> explorable as Hyper
Mark-
Friday, December 2, 2011, 1:28:24 PM, you wrote:
> I worked at Apple in the 1990-1997 time frame, and was involved
> in the migration of technical documentation from paper over to CD
> ROM. Cutting edge stuff in those days, believe me, and the delivery
> vehicle we used was...wait for it..
Geoff-
Friday, December 2, 2011, 12:53:28 AM, you wrote:
> Some people, when confronted with a problem, think I know, I'll use
> regular expressions. Now they have two problems.
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Well, at least all of you received warning in advance.
By the way, Richard, Did you receive the 3 mails that
I send from my yahoo and gmail accounts?
I am under the impression that you do not
receive them.
Thanks in advance!
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slylabs13 wrote
>
> Prior to this we were discussing how unwieldy this can be with a lot of
> data. If he has a ton of data, like in the hundreds of thousands or even
> millions of records, this can take an extraordinary amount of time, hence,
> the need to bite off a little at a time.
>
> Bob
Marty, I am no expert but let me share what I have learned over the past few
weeks.
Don't be too concerned about the database examples. Look at the message
handler carefully.
command GetDataForLine pLine, @pDataA
On every call to this handler the DataGrid is asking you to provide the data
fo
Prior to this we were discussing how unwieldy this can be with a lot of data.
If he has a ton of data, like in the hundreds of thousands or even millions of
records, this can take an extraordinary amount of time, hence, the need to bite
off a little at a time.
Bob
On Dec 2, 2011, at 3:03 PM,
Marty Knapp wrote
>
> In my scenario, how do I use the "GetDataForLine" command?
>
> Am I wasting time by converting my tab-delimited file to an array?
>
Hi Marty, I am no datagrid expert (more or less just stumble onto solutions
that work for me) and I am not familiar with the technique you a
Hmmm... we use a web based grading system that the school is very dissatisfied
with. They require a persistent connection with the web server which is
sometimes a problem in large network environments where one screwup somewhere
in a configuration or a router or switch reset produces a hornet's
Marty Knapp wrote
>
> In my scenario, how do I use the "GetDataForLine" command?
>
> Am I wasting time by converting my tab-delimited file to an array?
>
Hi Marty, I am no datagrid expert (more or less just stumble onto solutions
that work for me) and I am not familiar with the technique you a
Hi Marty.
Lotta prior posts on this so I will just summarize. Parsing data out into an
array can be a huge pain. It can be cumbersome to parse large amounts of data
into arrays. However there are techniques which can make it a great deal
faster.
First, read your data into manageable chunks.
Its spam. Don't bother opening it. Mark it with your ISP as spam if they offer
that. If that doesn't cut it, make a rule in apple mail (in mail preferences)
to the effect of "if FROM contains unot.in delete message". You won't see them
any more. This assumes you will remember to alter things if
Thanks Marian.
Joe Lewis Wilkins
Architect
On Dec 2, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Marian Petrides wrote:
> Sounds off to me. I've never gotten anything like this either.
>
> On Dec 2, 2011, at 4:39 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
>
>> Hi Jacqi,
>>
>> No, not from RR or the this list, but from xxx...@unot.
Sounds off to me. I've never gotten anything like this either.
On Dec 2, 2011, at 4:39 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
> Hi Jacqi,
>
> No, not from RR or the this list, but from xxx...@unot.in I've always
> received a lot of spam, so I am extremely careful. I've been using the same
> email addr
Hi Jacqi,
No, not from RR or the this list, but from xxx...@unot.in I've always received
a lot of spam, so I am extremely careful. I've been using the same email
address for about 15 years and it's displayed on several websites.
I've never acknowledged them even by bouncing or marking as spam
On 12/2/11 2:51 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
Hi all,
For sometime now I've been receiving a lot of emails labeled as
"eBook". Initially I assumed they were spam and I have never opened
one. Anyone know what the scoop is on this? Some of the subjects are
pretty enticing. Is there some body that p
Ben Rubinstein wrote
>
> If you would post it in the iOS (and Android, if there is one) forum that
> would be really kind. And anywhere else that you think would be useful.
>
Hi Ben, your message has been cross-posted.
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I'll throw my two cents into the mix here too.
I worked at Apple in the 1990-1997 time frame, and was involved in the
migration of technical documentation from paper over to CD ROM. Cutting edge
stuff in those days, believe me, and the delivery vehicle we used was...wait
for it...Hypercard! S
I'm using a form datagrid and have it successfully working with a tab
delimited list that I cycle through and create an array, then use the
FillInData handler in the datagrid to fill it out.
I am now trying to set this up for large amounts of data. I've read the
brief tutorial in the DG manual
Hi all,
For sometime now I've been receiving a lot of emails labeled as "eBook".
Initially I assumed they were spam and I have never opened one. Anyone know
what the scoop is on this? Some of the subjects are pretty enticing. Is there
some body that policies them to assure they are not spam?
T
I just did a test and 200,000 records in my data set (stored as a tab
delimited custom property) results in a stack of about 46mb. That's well
under the 4 gig limit that you mention. But it takes a long time to load
in a datagrid! I have questions about that so I'll start another thread.
Thank
Pierre,
Pour info : just on the other side of the Gave there is a town called :
Billère. Do you know?
2011/12/2 Pierre Sahores
> Same there in France, as long as i know... Do i mistake Kevin ?
>
> Le 2 déc. 2011 à 16:53, Andre Garzia a écrit :
>
> > Where are they??? I would welcome some compa
Andre Garzia wrote:
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
In fact, it seems we have enough users in Rio to encourage Andre to
consider starting one there, and perhaps Nicolas Cueto could start one in
Tokyo. Klaus, got enough LiveCode users in your area to set up one in
Hennef, o
On 12/2/11 12:35 PM, Randy Hengst wrote:
I have a variable set as a marker… it's made "true" in the
mouseDown.
However, a mouseEnter does not seem to be sent while a dragging with
the mouse (or your finger in iOS) down… neither does the mouseLoc()
get updated…
Interesting. You're right. This
Don't know which message in the thread to replicate here.
I was an early adopter of Hypercard and had developed an interesting set of
resources utilizing our local Corvus network in the early 90s (the university
wasn't yet networked back then.)
Students received copies of a "Workbook" stack and
On 02/12/2011 18:58, Roger Eller wrote:
So if there was a way to do it right - ie a 'printRotated' property that
could be set and reset multiple times within a single print job - that
would be nicer.
I would rather have rotation angle as a property of a text field. This has
been requested many
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Ben Rubinstein wrote:
>
> So if there was a way to do it right - ie a 'printRotated' property that
> could be set and reset multiple times within a single print job - that
> would be nicer.
>
> Ben
I would rather have rotation angle as a property of a text field.
On 02/12/2011 18:14, FlexibleLearning wrote:
Unless you know different, this doesn't work. The snapshot option remains at
72dpi after scaling. The only way seems to be scaling an import an image
from an external image file.
Hugh Senior
FLCo
David Epstein wrote:
Create the field with fontsize
On 02/12/2011 15:59, dfepst...@comcast.net wrote:
Create the field with fontsize 4 times what your want, take a snapshot, rotate,
paste, and reduce the image's width and length to 25% of the original .
Yep, that's exactly what I'm doing (not the paste bit, ie the code puts text
into a field,
Hi Jaque,
I've continued to play with this idea.
I've moved my handlers to the card script.
I have a variable set as a marker… it's made "true" in the mouseDown.
However, a mouseEnter does not seem to be sent while a dragging with the mouse
(or your finger in iOS) down… neither does the mouseL
Unless you know different, this doesn't work. The snapshot option remains at
72dpi after scaling. The only way seems to be scaling an import an image
from an external image file.
Hugh Senior
FLCo
David Epstein wrote:
Create the field with fontsize 4 times what your want, take a snapshot,
rotate
Same there in France, as long as i know... Do i mistake Kevin ?
Le 2 déc. 2011 à 16:53, Andre Garzia a écrit :
> Where are they??? I would welcome some company here! I would set up a group
> here if we had something like 4 or 5 guys/gals.
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Le 2 déc. 2011 à 14:55, René Micout a écrit :
>
> Le 2 déc. 2011 à 14:32, Pierre Sahores a écrit :
>
>> the workflow we need to build to solve the initial defined customer's need.
>
> Bonjour Pierre,
Bonsoir René,
> A little precision : with HC the initial customer and programmer was the sam
Yes, my idea has always been to limit my queries to a certain number of
records, and then have some transparent method for paging, but this other
method of updating the datagrid via callbacks intrigues me.
Bob
On Dec 2, 2011, at 3:01 AM, Bernard Devlin wrote:
> You wouldn't necessarily need
Hmmm disagree. Most people do not want to do accounting either, and so do not
have accounting software. That is not an argument for why accounting software
should go away.
Bob
On Dec 2, 2011, at 5:32 AM, Pierre Sahores wrote:
> David Stevens says: December 1, 2011 at 3:10 pm
>
> A likely re
Ah but you have pulled a bait and switch. The owner is solving a different
problem. He needs to get in again and again, whilst keeping others without the
key out. Much more complex than the thief's problem, which is getting in only
once and to hell with the owner or anyone else.
Bob
On Dec 2
Late to visit this thread, but when I need to do something of this nature I do
it in MacDraft, Export it as a JPG or?... at whatever resolution I want; and
then import or paste that into an LC image. Then it's up to the printer.
Usually the quality is quite good. If you are interested in this ap
Yes this is true, but only because someone else dealt with the complexity,
solved the problems, and then presented the end user with a machine that did
the work or calculations for him. But make no mistake someone had to solve the
actual problems or there would have been no machine/calculator/wh
Ben Rubenstein asked
Can I just confirm that there's no way to print high-quality
rotated text from LC?
Create the field with fontsize 4 times what your want, take a snapshot, rotate,
paste, and reduce the image's width and length to 25% of the original .
David Epste
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Richard Gaskin
wrote:
> In fact, it seems we have enough users in Rio to encourage Andre to
> consider starting one there, and perhaps Nicolas Cueto could start one in
> Tokyo. Klaus, got enough LiveCode users in your area to set up one in
> Hennef, or perhaps Bonn?
Judy wrote:
> Whatever happened to a mid-so-Cal meeting area in OC?
I became infected - with the spirit of Ubuntu. :)
It became increasingly difficult to find a venue which would work for
everyone, and the meetings pretty much came to a standstill for many
months. But as I mentioned in my po
Björnke, I think you are right on the money.
I had never used Hypercard, but stumbled across Rev 1.1.1 and was staggered
to think that this entire programming paradigm had passed me by (I wrote my
first BASIC program in 1980). I'm glad that RunRev/Metacard had gone with
a cross-platform implement
Bonjour Pierre,
Am 02.12.2011 um 14:53 schrieb Pierre Sahores:
> I did't got the bucks to license Oracle Media Objects ;-/
> What was this REAL "Table" object! ;-) you seems to say we can't redesign it
> in LC ? ;D
Well, it was a REAL spreadsheet like in Excel!
And one could addres it like that
People who wrote in this thread about why HC was killed are all self centric
conspiracy lunatics. Apple was considered dying, bleeding money left and right,
and everyone just waited for Jobs to be a megalomaniac idiot and kill the
company off ungracefully by what was considered a flawed personal
Up to 4.6.2, you get increased image resolution if you import an image and
scale it down, but not if you take a snapshot and scale it down.
I did bug-report this anomoly ages ago. Maybe they fixed increased res on
snapshots in 5.0 (not tried yet).
Hugh Senior
FLCo
Ben Rubinstein wrote
Can I j
Le 2 déc. 2011 à 14:32, Pierre Sahores a écrit :
> the workflow we need to build to solve the initial defined customer's need.
Bonjour Pierre,
A little precision : with HC the initial customer and programmer was the same
person...
I think that will be the same with LC... But is really the case?
I did't got the bucks to license Oracle Media Objects ;-/ What was this REAL
"Table" object! ;-) you seems to say we can't redesign it in LC ? ;D
Kind regards,
Pierre
Le 2 déc. 2011 à 14:39, Klaus on-rev a écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> Am 02.12.2011 um 14:32 schrieb Pierre Sahores:
>
>> Among the co
On 02/12/2011 11:12, Mark Schonewille wrote:
I have had this problem too and solved it. Please post your script.
On 1 dec 2011, at 18:05, Ben Rubinstein wrote:
Is there any way to detect that the user is clicking the 'cancel' button on the
'printing' dialog that appears while printing from Li
It might be possible to use css/javascript in a revbrowser instance to
accomplish this, but I haven't actually done so, so not sure.
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote:
> Can I just confirm that there's no way to print high-quality rotated text
> from LC? For use on screen one
Hi all,
Am 02.12.2011 um 14:32 schrieb Pierre Sahores:
> Among the comments of this interesting "http://www.loper-os.org/?p=568";
> paper...,
> Phillip says: November 30, 2011 at 4:49 pm
> It was killed because Hypercard on an iPod is all you would ever need to buy.
> How do you spell APP Store
Among the comments of this interesting "http://www.loper-os.org/?p=568";
paper...,
Phillip says: November 30, 2011 at 4:49 pm
It was killed because Hypercard on an iPod is all you would ever need to buy.
How do you spell APP Store killer? HYPERCARD.
BC says: December 1, 2011 at 12:06 pm
"Ye
Both of the apply to a simple example.
How to get something from a combination locked glass case. But
circumstances and requirements are a big part of how much complexity can be
removed. As does background and world view.
An engineer might study how the lock works and try to determine if it can
be
Whatever happened to a mid-so-Cal meeting area in OC?
Judy
On Thu, 1 Dec 2011, Richard Gaskin wrote:
The City of Pasadena has declared a state of emergency in light of the
ongoing wind storm (see earlier post), so after discussing this with Bill
Vlahos we agree it's just not safe to encourage
On Thu, 1 Dec 2011, Todd Geist wrote:
Wow, we had no wind at all. I am maybe 50 miles from Pasedena
--I'm 100 miles (well, probably in that range) south of Pasadena and we
had high but not abnormally high winds today. Still, that plus a nearly
200 mile round trip makes it undoable for me.
Le 2 déc. 2011 à 02:15, Todd Geist a écrit :
> I think that
> breakthroughs in technology are really about taking a complex problem and
> making it simpler. The best solutions are the simplest ones.
>
> "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a
> touch of genius
Ben,
I have had this problem too and solved it. Please post your script.
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Some years back I was working with a few joined tables in a commercially
available relational database. Making certain queries across these joined
tables became unusably slow as the size of the tables increased (I can't
remember the numbers, but certainly in the millions, possibly billions).
As t
Is there any way to detect that the user is clicking the 'cancel' button on
the 'printing' dialog that appears while printing from LiveCode?
During testing, if I want to cancel an exceptionally long job infinite
loop in code I'm a bit stuck.
I can click the 'cancel' button, and the UI reacts
To clarify, I would have all the features of Mac OS X Lion (all the interface,
Core MIDI, Core Graphics, etc ...)
We are far of that...
What will happen when Microsoft will deliver Windows 8?
As Microsoft was based on Mac OS to progress, a common line persisted, but
tomorrow, the gap may widen fu
Can I just confirm that there's no way to print high-quality rotated text from
LC? For use on screen one can put text in a field, take a snapshot, and
rotate that - which is fine if you don't need editing; but of course in print
that comes out lo-res.
Is there any way, if I want most of the t
Sorry, not very well, this is only a race to the bottom (nivellement par le bas
in French)
Le 2 déc. 2011 à 03:09, Petrides, M.D. Marian a écrit :
> That's for sure. One other missing "feature" in Hypercard that was not
> mentioned is cross-platform support, which LC does very well. (Thank He
Thanks Pete. I did something very similar to that (although I didn't use
the message box to make a copy--how would I do that by the way?) I ended up
copying the group from the first data grid's row template over to the second
data grid... After playing around with it, I then did modified the
d
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
> Let me propose that a solution cannot be simpler than the problem it is
> meant to solve.
Assuming that this is true, it is nevertheless possible for a solution to
be far, far more complex than the problem it is intended to solve. One
quote r
On 12/02/2011 02:50 AM, Mike Bonner wrote:
Bob said: Let me propose that a solution cannot be simpler than the problem
it is meant to solve.
Yep. The most important part of programming/building/creation in general is
defining the problem. Well ok, for me the biggest issue is making it pretty
sin
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