date:20120124


Graham Samuel wrote:

 However the real reason that I'm trying to go down the XML route is
 that I need this data to persist and I don't want the overhead of
 storing it in a stack rather than just keeping a trivial amount of
 text which furthermore could be easily examined/edited by non-LC
 programs.

XML is the way to go for inter-app data transfer, but FWIW if your app 
was the only one using it you can save arrays to disk using 
arrayEncode/arrayDecode:


global gMyArray

on LoadData pFile
   put url (binfile: pFile) into tData
   put arrayDecode(tData) into gMyArray
end LoadData

on SaveData pFile
   put arrayEncode(gMyArray) into tData
   put tData into url (binfile:  pFile)
end SaveData


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Re: Opening a Supercard file in Livecode?


Bob Earp wrote:

 Well, I think you are half correct Richard.  These sort of decisions
 need to be made on a case by case basis

On further consideration I think you're absolutely correct.

I was talking about this with Ken Ray last night, and we hit on a 
distinction which may be useful for deciding when to use a converter and 
when to rewrite:


If an app has more content than code use a converter, but if more code 
than content then rewrite.


Even then there may be exceptions, but the idea is that multimedia 
projects usually have a lot of objects which need to be laid out in 
specific ways, and that's the sort of thing a converter can do well; 
redoing hundreds of card layouts by hand is a waste of time.


But things like productivity apps often have relatively little content, 
i.e. fewer objects, but tons of code, and code written in another xTalk 
dialect will be of questionable value in terms of robustness, 
extensibility, and performance in LiveCode.


While xTalks have many commonalities, they're all very different 
products -- if they weren't there would be only one. :)  Those 
differences lie in object types and syntax options that result in ports 
which may have code that makes no sense in the target environment, or at 
best uses language conventions that aren't optimized for the target.


Also, many productivity apps attempt to adhere to the UI conventions of 
the host platform as much as possible, but if a project is being ported 
from an older xTalk to LiveCode chances are it was designed for an 
earlier version of the OS and needs revision to look current anyway.


Moreover, most other xTalks are single-platform tools, so they have no 
methods for handling UI differences between OSes and will require 
revision to account for that.


So code-heavy projects with relatively few objects can be an opportunity 
for updating the app not only for the current version of its original 
target platform, but for multiple platforms that it never previously had 
to take into account.


But for content-heavy apps, I fully agree:  it's nothing but RSI to 
reproduce hundreds of card layouts by hand.


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Re: Opening a Supercard file in Livecode?


Pete wrote:


All good points.  I guess I'm thinking of a different situation that
multiple people working on the same project.  When someone reports a bug
that crept into a particular version of an application, it would be useful
to see what changes were made to the stack that might have introduced the
bug.


That's a very good point.

It shouldn't be too hard to write a tool that can examine two sets of 
stack files and produce a list of handlers which have been modified.


It would be a little tricky to write because we can't currently have two 
stacks open with the same name, but I think it may be doable using 
something like this:


The tool would create an array with object references as the primary key 
and handler names as the secondary key, where the value is the handler 
definition itself.


Then after it completes a scan of a given stack, it then goes through 
the other version and compares the same handler definitions, noting 
changes, missing items, and new items, and produces a clickable list of 
changes that could take the developer to the script in question.


I'll add this to my To Do list; seems like it would be useful.

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Re: Breakpoints on a Global


On 1/23/12 4:30 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

I've mentioned it before, that if you set a breakpoint on a global,
the IDE will crash to desktop.


If you mean trying to break on a global declaration, I'm not sure how 
that could work at all. That's just a memory assignment. There's nothing 
to break on, and it never even occured to me to try it. Breakpoints only 
work inside handlers. The engine shouldn't crash regardless, but you 
won't get any useful info from examining a memory assignment.


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Re: Revlets on the web


On 1/23/12 2:16 PM, Jim Hurley wrote:

I think I knew how to do this at one time.

I have an app saved for the Web as a revlet

After saving as a standalone (for the web) a page opens in Safari
that says it is a test page--BUT NOT APP. Is the app supposed to open
in Safari as a RevLet?


Yes, provided you have the plugin installed, but currently it only works 
in 32-bit mode. I think Safari defaults to 64-bit now.




The file created on my drive consists as a folder (MyAppFolder)
containing two files (MyApp.revlet and test.html)

I uploaded the folder to my web site.

Now, how would someone run it on the web? Assuming they have
downloaded the player.

What is the url?


The URL is the one that opens the HTML page. When the page opens it will 
load the revlet.



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Re: Opening a Supercard file in Livecode?

My thought is to not limit it to scripts necessarily, but all objects in a
stack - stack, substacks, cards, controls, along with all their properties
both standard and custom.

I see it as a standalone program that would open a stack file, grab all the
above info and write it into a database. There would then be an option to
compare two versions of the same stack and present a list of everything
that had changed between them. I guess you could even recreate a stack
file in an emergency.

I already have code that does a lot of the work to get all the info needed
from a stack but currently it just presents it online and doesn't store it
anywhere.

I'm guessing there'll be some gotchas along the way, but I think this could
be a useful tool as part of some sort of version control system. I can
think of several occasions where it would have saved me a lot of time.

Pete

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Richard Gaskin
ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote:

Pete wrote:

All good points. I guess I'm thinking of a different situation that
multiple people working on the same project. When someone reports a bug
that crept into a particular version of an application, it would be useful
to see what changes were made to the stack that might have introduced the
bug.

That's a very good point.

It shouldn't be too hard to write a tool that can examine two sets of
stack files and produce a list of handlers which have been modified.

It would be a little tricky to write because we can't currently have two
stacks open with the same name, but I think it may be doable using
something like this:

The tool would create an array with object references as the primary key
and handler names as the secondary key, where the value is the handler
definition itself.

Then after it completes a scan of a given stack, it then goes through the
other version and compares the same handler definitions, noting changes,
missing items, and new items, and produces a clickable list of changes that
could take the developer to the script in question.

I'll add this to my To Do list; seems like it would be useful.

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Re: Developing on Mac, standalone on Windows

Set the alignment of the label to Centered, set the width to autofit, align 
objects by their centers. One thing I do that seems to help is I set the width 
of the object (field, label, button, menu) to the formatted width of the 
object. 
On Jan 23, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Pete wrote:

 Of course, there are still related issues!  For example, I have a series of
 buttons with icons associated with them.  Each one also has a label
 underneath it.  I carefully centered the button and the label on my Mac
 development machine but on the WIndows machine, they're not quite centered,
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Re: AW: How can I copy from one stack to another with identical names?

Sometimes if the app I am pasting into is not open when I copy, the app does 
not seem to be aware of the correct contents of the clipboard. This can 
especially be true if you have some kind of Office app installed, but I cannot 
state that for a certainty because I have never fully tested that theory. 

One way to do it might be to write an applescript that does a file copy. Then 
insert a frontScript that closes the first stack and removes it from memory, 
then opens the copy. I mention the frontScript because I am pretty sure you 
cannot continue to run a script in a stack that has been removed from memory.  

Bob


On Jan 24, 2012, at 1:23 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:

 I tried it again with two instances and now the paste menu is active and I
 can copy/paste between two instances of LC.
 I don't know, why paste wasn't active before - does anybody knows what could
 led to this behavior?
 Thanks
 Tiemo
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-
 boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Tiemo Hollmann TB
 Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. Januar 2012 09:43
 An: 'How to use LiveCode'
 Betreff: How can I copy from one stack to another with identical names?
 
 Hello,
 
 
 
 I have two versions of the same stack with a bunch of substacks. I
 would
 like to copy objects and scripts from one version to the other.
 
 I know, that I can't open two stacks with the same name for editing. I
 tried
 to open the two versions in two instances of LC, but it seems, that the
 copy/paste object doesn't work between instances.
 
 Renaming all stacks in one version would be an approach. Is there a
 better
 trick to do this job?
 
 Thanks for your experience
 
 Tiemo
 
 
 
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Re: Breakpoints on a Global

No, I mean I want to break when the value of the variable is something. In the 
default script editor there is a tab called Breakpoints. You can set something 
called a watch. You can set the scope to be global, and enter a variable, and 
set the break to happen when the variable matches a condition. It would be 
insanely useful, if it didn't crash to desktop just having the thing set to 
anything!! 

Bob


On Jan 24, 2012, at 7:53 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

 On 1/23/12 4:30 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
 I've mentioned it before, that if you set a breakpoint on a global,
 the IDE will crash to desktop.
 
 If you mean trying to break on a global declaration, I'm not sure how that 
 could work at all. That's just a memory assignment. There's nothing to break 
 on, and it never even occured to me to try it. Breakpoints only work inside 
 handlers. The engine shouldn't crash regardless, but you won't get any useful 
 info from examining a memory assignment.
 
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Re: Breakpoints on a Global

Hi Phil. I cannot change the variable to a local because it is the array that 
contains the record data for the form I am using, so all objects have to be 
aware of it. 

You set a variable checkpoint either in the debugger, or by script. I'll be 
daggum if I remember the script command though. 

Bob


On Jan 23, 2012, at 11:37 PM, Phil Davis wrote:

 Hi Bob,
 
 Does it crash when you set a breakpoint on a local? If not, can you change 
 the global to a local variable?
 
 Just grasping at straws... I've never set a breakpoint on a variable 
 declaration. Didn't know you could. Is your global declared in a handler or 
 outside all handlers? (I assume in a handler, otherwise the breakpoint 
 couldn't be triggered, right?)
 
 Phil Davis
 
 
 On 1/23/12 2:30 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
 I've mentioned it before, that if you set a breakpoint on a global, the IDE 
 will crash to desktop. I have verified this is a problem even when all 
 plugins are disabled. Does anyone know a workaround for this? I am in 
 desperate need of finding where an array is getting set to empty. For 
 whatever reason tracing it has been extremely elusive.
 
 Bob
 
 
 
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Re: Opening a Supercard file in Livecode?

Actually, I think plain text would work here better, unless arrays were stored 
in properties. Even then, you could save the arrays as text using the 
printKeys() function. There are text comparison utilities out there which are 
quite good at highlighting the differences between two plain text files. 

I think grouped objects would have to be kept together too. Easier to put back 
together later. 

This actually seems like the beginnings of a version management plugin. The 
bugger in all of it is that you would have to avoid recording object ID's, 
opting for the long names of everything. Also, behaviors would be problematic. 
They would have to be listed without the ID's of the objects they were set to. 

Bob


On Jan 24, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

 Pete wrote:
 
 All good points.  I guess I'm thinking of a different situation that
 multiple people working on the same project.  When someone reports a bug
 that crept into a particular version of an application, it would be useful
 to see what changes were made to the stack that might have introduced the
 bug.
 
 That's a very good point.
 
 It shouldn't be too hard to write a tool that can examine two sets of stack 
 files and produce a list of handlers which have been modified.
 
 It would be a little tricky to write because we can't currently have two 
 stacks open with the same name, but I think it may be doable using something 
 like this:
 
 The tool would create an array with object references as the primary key and 
 handler names as the secondary key, where the value is the handler definition 
 itself.
 
 Then after it completes a scan of a given stack, it then goes through the 
 other version and compares the same handler definitions, noting changes, 
 missing items, and new items, and produces a clickable list of changes that 
 could take the developer to the script in question.
 
 I'll add this to my To Do list; seems like it would be useful.
 
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Livecode handling of directories with non-ascii (?) characters.

2012-01-24 Thread Alex Tweedly



I'm not sure if this is a LC question, or an OSX question, or a unicode 
question, or ... or what.


I have a folder with funny characters (:-) in its name, and that seems 
to cause a problem in LC.


When I do 'ls' in terminal, I get

Björg Þórhallsdóttir
I cannot copy/paste this into a LC script using the script editor, but 
copy/pasting it into a text file, and then reading that (as a binfile) 
shows that the characters are


B j ˆ r g ﬁ Û r h a l l s d Û t t i r
66 106 246 114 103 32 222 243 114 104 97 108 108 115 100 243 116 116 105 
114 10


However, in LC if I do
put the folders into myVar

what I get is

66 106 154 114 103 32 63 151 114 104 97 108 108 115 100 151 116 116 105 114

i.e. instead of
246 I get 154
243 I get 151
222 I get 63

and (naturally) I cannot then do set the defaultfolder to line 2 of myVar

So - is there anything I can do to get around this ?

Thanks
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RE: Livecode handling of directories with non-ascii (?) characters.

2012-01-24 Thread Mark Powell

Alex, I have had this problem since the Rev 2.0 days and as far as I can tell 
it is not fixed.  In LC, I can literally get the files and immediately ask 
is there a file (line whatever of it) and I get a doesn't exist if line 
whatever of its contains a violater character in the file name.  This happens 
with me for all Czech characters in the high ASCII range, and I have no 
workaround, either through terminal or through native LC.  I am on Windows, not 
MacOS.  It was a deal-breaker on an app I was developing a couple years back.

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question, or ... or what.

I have a folder with funny characters (:-) in its name, and that seems 
to cause a problem in LC.


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Re: Livecode handling of directories with non-ascii (?) characters.

2012-01-24 Thread Mark Schonewille

Alex,

No, LiveCode is hopelessly obsolete when it comes to unicode and interaction 
with other programmes or the operating system. You could try to create your own 
file management system for LiveCode using the shell, AppleScript and VBScript.

LiveCode is the only current cross-platform tool I know of that is unable to do 
this. Even SuperCard, which isn't really unicode compliant, can deal with files 
that have non-ASCII characters in them.

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On 24 jan 2012, at 19:27, Alex Tweedly wrote:

 
 I'm not sure if this is a LC question, or an OSX question, or a unicode 
 question, or ... or what.
 
 I have a folder with funny characters (:-) in its name, and that seems to 
 cause a problem in LC.
 
 When I do 'ls' in terminal, I get
 Björg Þórhallsdóttir
 I cannot copy/paste this into a LC script using the script editor, but 
 copy/pasting it into a text file, and then reading that (as a binfile) shows 
 that the characters are
 
 B j ˆ r g ﬁ Û r h a l l s d Û t t i r
 66 106 246 114 103 32 222 243 114 104 97 108 108 115 100 243 116 116 105 114 
 10
 
 However, in LC if I do
 put the folders into myVar
 
 what I get is
 
 66 106 154 114 103 32 63 151 114 104 97 108 108 115 100 151 116 116 105 114
 
 i.e. instead of
 246 I get 154
 243 I get 151
 222 I get 63
 
 and (naturally) I cannot then do set the defaultfolder to line 2 of myVar
 
 So - is there anything I can do to get around this ?
 
 Thanks
 -- Alex.



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Re: Livecode handling of directories with non-ascii (?) characters.

2012-01-24 Thread Mark Schonewille

Mark,

It is a LC question. Definitely an LC question.

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On 24 jan 2012, at 20:04, Mark Powell wrote:

 Alex, I have had this problem since the Rev 2.0 days and as far as I can tell 
 it is not fixed.  In LC, I can literally get the files and immediately ask 
 is there a file (line whatever of it) and I get a doesn't exist if line 
 whatever of its contains a violater character in the file name.  This happens 
 with me for all Czech characters in the high ASCII range, and I have no 
 workaround, either through terminal or through native LC.  I am on Windows, 
 not MacOS.  It was a deal-breaker on an app I was developing a couple years 
 back.
 
 --
 I'm not sure if this is a LC question, or an OSX question, or a unicode 
 question, or ... or what.
 
 I have a folder with funny characters (:-) in its name, and that seems 
 to cause a problem in LC.


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Re: Navigating XML in LiveCode

2012-01-24 Thread Ken Ray

 Ken - ever helpful! I'm sorry I grumbled about not getting replies. That's 
 just stupid, given that everyone on this list is busy, and it's bad manners 
 too. Anyway your reply (which I haven't quoted in full) shows me how to get 
 round my specific issues, so I see that it can be done: what I have to do now 
 is to decide between a perhaps more appropriate structure using arrays, with 
 the disadvantage of having to put them in a stack and save it to get 
 persistence, or to put up with the rather clunky XML functions (yours or 
 LC's) in order to get a simpler storage solution.

If it's *really* simple, you might want to consider a simple tab-delimited text 
file - by far the easiest approach, IMHO.

:D

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Re: Opening a Supercard file in Livecode?

Bob,
I think you'd have to find some way to preserve object IDs or a lot of
stuff would break.  Datagrids, for example, store the row template as a
long id.  And, as you pointed out, behaviors.

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

 Actually, I think plain text would work here better, unless arrays were
 stored in properties. Even then, you could save the arrays as text using
 the printKeys() function. There are text comparison utilities out there
 which are quite good at highlighting the differences between two plain text
 files.

 I think grouped objects would have to be kept together too. Easier to put
 back together later.

 This actually seems like the beginnings of a version management plugin.
 The bugger in all of it is that you would have to avoid recording object
 ID's, opting for the long names of everything. Also, behaviors would be
 problematic. They would have to be listed without the ID's of the objects
 they were set to.

 Bob


 On Jan 24, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

  Pete wrote:
 
  All good points.  I guess I'm thinking of a different situation that
  multiple people working on the same project.  When someone reports a bug
  that crept into a particular version of an application, it would be
 useful
  to see what changes were made to the stack that might have introduced
 the
  bug.
 
  That's a very good point.
 
  It shouldn't be too hard to write a tool that can examine two sets of
 stack files and produce a list of handlers which have been modified.
 
  It would be a little tricky to write because we can't currently have two
 stacks open with the same name, but I think it may be doable using
 something like this:
 
  The tool would create an array with object references as the primary key
 and handler names as the secondary key, where the value is the handler
 definition itself.
 
  Then after it completes a scan of a given stack, it then goes through
 the other version and compares the same handler definitions, noting
 changes, missing items, and new items, and produces a clickable list of
 changes that could take the developer to the script in question.
 
  I'll add this to my To Do list; seems like it would be useful.
 
  --
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Re: Developing on Mac, standalone on Windows

I do all that already, still looks different on Windows than on Mac, I
think because of the different character widths of different fonts.  The
only way I can think to keep it looking the same is do all the centering,
etc when a card is opened.

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

 Set the alignment of the label to Centered, set the width to autofit,
 align objects by their centers. One thing I do that seems to help is I set
 the width of the object (field, label, button, menu) to the formatted width
 of the object.
 On Jan 23, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Pete wrote:

  Of course, there are still related issues!  For example, I have a series
 of
  buttons with icons associated with them.  Each one also has a label
  underneath it.  I carefully centered the button and the label on my Mac
  development machine but on the WIndows machine, they're not quite
 centered,
  presumably because of the font change.


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Re: Navigating XML in LiveCode

one can even store fields that contain returns - replace them with an
'invisible' character such as vertical tab and each record will be one
line. Tab-delimited text is so much easier to deal with - the text chunking
commands you already know work great - and are very fast.

On 24 January 2012 11:52, Ken Ray k...@sonsothunder.com wrote:

  Ken - ever helpful! I'm sorry I grumbled about not getting replies.
 That's just stupid, given that everyone on this list is busy, and it's bad
 manners too. Anyway your reply (which I haven't quoted in full) shows me
 how to get round my specific issues, so I see that it can be done: what I
 have to do now is to decide between a perhaps more appropriate structure
 using arrays, with the disadvantage of having to put them in a stack and
 save it to get persistence, or to put up with the rather clunky XML
 functions (yours or LC's) in order to get a simpler storage solution.

 If it's *really* simple, you might want to consider a simple tab-delimited
 text file - by far the easiest approach, IMHO.

 :D

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Re: Breakpoints on a Global

2012-01-24 Thread Phil Davis

I see. After reading Jacque's contribution also, maybe you want something like 
this in your script?


if the keys of gMyGlobal = empty then breakpoint

Phil


On 1/24/12 9:30 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

Hi Phil. I cannot change the variable to a local because it is the array that 
contains the record data for the form I am using, so all objects have to be 
aware of it.

You set a variable checkpoint either in the debugger, or by script. I'll be 
daggum if I remember the script command though.

Bob


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Hi Bob,

Does it crash when you set a breakpoint on a local? If not, can you change the 
global to a local variable?

Just grasping at straws... I've never set a breakpoint on a variable 
declaration. Didn't know you could. Is your global declared in a handler or 
outside all handlers? (I assume in a handler, otherwise the breakpoint couldn't 
be triggered, right?)

Phil Davis


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I've mentioned it before, that if you set a breakpoint on a global, the IDE 
will crash to desktop. I have verified this is a problem even when all plugins 
are disabled. Does anyone know a workaround for this? I am in desperate need of 
finding where an array is getting set to empty. For whatever reason tracing it 
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Re: Breakpoints on a Global

Aye I can already do that as a scripted breakpoint. if myGlobal is not an 
array. But where to put it? By the time it comes back from something I call a 
single key has been created by another handler, and there is no line I have 
encountered so far that actually sets it to empty. What is actually happening 
somewhere is that I am getting the dgHilitedIndex of a datagrid, and then 
putting the dgDataOfIndex into this global array, when there is nothing 
selected in the datagrid. My problem is finding where this is happening. I will 
try to find it using the search feature (very handy btw). It would be easier if 
RR fixes this daggum problem though. This is a feature that used to work. I 
know because GLX2 used to do this successfully. 

Bob


On Jan 24, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Phil Davis wrote:

 I see. After reading Jacque's contribution also, maybe you want something 
 like this in your script?
 
if the keys of gMyGlobal = empty then breakpoint
 
 Phil
 
 
 On 1/24/12 9:30 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
 Hi Phil. I cannot change the variable to a local because it is the array 
 that contains the record data for the form I am using, so all objects have 
 to be aware of it.
 
 You set a variable checkpoint either in the debugger, or by script. I'll be 
 daggum if I remember the script command though.
 
 Bob
 
 
 On Jan 23, 2012, at 11:37 PM, Phil Davis wrote:
 
 Hi Bob,
 
 Does it crash when you set a breakpoint on a local? If not, can you change 
 the global to a local variable?
 
 Just grasping at straws... I've never set a breakpoint on a variable 
 declaration. Didn't know you could. Is your global declared in a handler or 
 outside all handlers? (I assume in a handler, otherwise the breakpoint 
 couldn't be triggered, right?)
 
 Phil Davis
 
 
 On 1/23/12 2:30 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
 I've mentioned it before, that if you set a breakpoint on a global, the 
 IDE will crash to desktop. I have verified this is a problem even when all 
 plugins are disabled. Does anyone know a workaround for this? I am in 
 desperate need of finding where an array is getting set to empty. For 
 whatever reason tracing it has been extremely elusive.
 
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Re: Developing on Mac, standalone on Windows

2012-01-24 Thread Ken Ray


On Jan 24, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Pete wrote:

 I do all that already, still looks different on Windows than on Mac, I
 think because of the different character widths of different fonts.  The
 only way I can think to keep it looking the same is do all the centering,
 etc when a card is opened.

Oh also one thing that people forget about is that buttons have 'margins' just 
like fields do; I can't tell you how many times I've had to set the margins of 
a button to 'nudge' the label one way or the other… so you may be able to keep 
the width of the button, but just adjust the margins when the card is opened.

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How do I make something like a html imagemap on a graphical object?

2012-01-24 Thread William de Smet

Hi there,

I made a graphical oval object pacman with a startAngle of 28 and a
arcAngle of 304.
It's background is yellow.

Want I want to do is something like a html image map: define an area
where something happens.
I want the cursor to change 'on mouseenter' but only when the mouse is
over 'packman' or over its's 'mouth'
Ofcourse I can do this by using  'dummy' transparent graphical objects
placed over the 'pacman' and over it's mouth
but I am looking for a way to do this by script.

Is this possible?

greetings,

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Re: Opening a Supercard file in Livecode?

Yes the more I think about it, the more tedious it becomes. It seems the only 
way to do multiuser dev is to have the source stack available to a kind of 
checkout engine. A dev would have to check out an object at which point it 
would be unavailable to any other user. And you would have to have a running 
copy that was the exact replica of the original including ID's. Not sure how to 
do that. 

Way back when some made the argument that it was a bad idea to use ID's as 
references to objects. Now it seems we understand much more how true that is. 
We are beyond the point of know return now. :-)

Bob


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 Bob,
 I think you'd have to find some way to preserve object IDs or a lot of
 stuff would break.  Datagrids, for example, store the row template as a
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Re: Breakpoints on a Global

2012-01-24 Thread Phil Davis

Hmmm. You probably already tried this, but... can you check for a non-empty 
value in dgHilitedIndex before allowing the 'put... into...' to proceed? Of 
course that's still a problem if it happens in 14 dozen different places.


Maybe put the actual setting of the array inside a setProp handler, so your 
setprop handler script can examine the 'set to' values before allowing it?


Sounds frustrating indeed.

Phil


On 1/24/12 1:04 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

Aye I can already do that as a scripted breakpoint. if myGlobal is not an 
array. But where to put it? By the time it comes back from something I call a 
single key has been created by another handler, and there is no line I have 
encountered so far that actually sets it to empty. What is actually happening 
somewhere is that I am getting the dgHilitedIndex of a datagrid, and then 
putting the dgDataOfIndex into this global array, when there is nothing 
selected in the datagrid. My problem is finding where this is happening. I will 
try to find it using the search feature (very handy btw). It would be easier if 
RR fixes this daggum problem though. This is a feature that used to work. I 
know because GLX2 used to do this successfully.

Bob


On Jan 24, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Phil Davis wrote:


I see. After reading Jacque's contribution also, maybe you want something like 
this in your script?

if the keys of gMyGlobal = empty then breakpoint

Phil


On 1/24/12 9:30 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

Hi Phil. I cannot change the variable to a local because it is the array that 
contains the record data for the form I am using, so all objects have to be 
aware of it.

You set a variable checkpoint either in the debugger, or by script. I'll be 
daggum if I remember the script command though.

Bob


On Jan 23, 2012, at 11:37 PM, Phil Davis wrote:


Hi Bob,

Does it crash when you set a breakpoint on a local? If not, can you change the 
global to a local variable?

Just grasping at straws... I've never set a breakpoint on a variable 
declaration. Didn't know you could. Is your global declared in a handler or 
outside all handlers? (I assume in a handler, otherwise the breakpoint couldn't 
be triggered, right?)

Phil Davis


On 1/23/12 2:30 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

I've mentioned it before, that if you set a breakpoint on a global, the IDE 
will crash to desktop. I have verified this is a problem even when all plugins 
are disabled. Does anyone know a workaround for this? I am in desperate need of 
finding where an array is getting set to empty. For whatever reason tracing it 
has been extremely elusive.

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Re: Throttling Accelerated Rendering...


On 1/24/12 11:13 AM, John Dixon wrote:


Jacque...


From where are you handling the switching... from a preOpenCard
handler ?... and how about when switching it off ?... (now I'm
going to say something stupid) from the closeCard handler... the
reason I ask, is I have tried this but am experiencing flashing
when moving from a card using the acceleratedRendering to one where
it gets 'switched off', as it were.


I only have one card that needs accelerated rendering, so I set it on 
preOpenCard and turn it off on closecard. But I do lock the screen and 
apply a visual effect when the card changes, so maybe that's why I don't 
see any flash. If you don't need a visual effect, you could still try 
locking and unlocking the screen.


Are you using the latest release? There were some issues that were fixed 
that might apply.


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Re: Opening a Supercard file in Livecode?

uniquely naming all objects and using 'get the id of object name'
 instead of using any IDs at all would seem to solve this problem...

of course would have to be a convention when starting a project.

why wouldn't this work?

On 24 January 2012 13:20, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

 Yes the more I think about it, the more tedious it becomes. It seems the
 only way to do multiuser dev is to have the source stack available to a
 kind of checkout engine. A dev would have to check out an object at which
 point it would be unavailable to any other user. And you would have to have
 a running copy that was the exact replica of the original including ID's.
 Not sure how to do that.

 Way back when some made the argument that it was a bad idea to use ID's as
 references to objects. Now it seems we understand much more how true that
 is. We are beyond the point of know return now. :-)

 Bob


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  Bob,
  I think you'd have to find some way to preserve object IDs or a lot of
  stuff would break.  Datagrids, for example, store the row template as a
  long id.  And, as you pointed out, behaviors.


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Re: Breakpoints on a Global

yup found one instance of that. Have to be careful though because I have a 
second datagrid that is populated with related table data and uses the values 
in the array in it's own query. sigh I just have to pore through the code. 

Bob


On Jan 24, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Phil Davis wrote:

 Hmmm. You probably already tried this, but... can you check for a non-empty 
 value in dgHilitedIndex before allowing the 'put... into...' to proceed? Of 
 course that's still a problem if it happens in 14 dozen different places.
 
 Maybe put the actual setting of the array inside a setProp handler, so your 
 setprop handler script can examine the 'set to' values before allowing it?
 
 Sounds frustrating indeed.
 
 Phil
 
 
 On 1/24/12 1:04 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
 Aye I can already do that as a scripted breakpoint. if myGlobal is not an 
 array. But where to put it? By the time it comes back from something I call 
 a single key has been created by another handler, and there is no line I 
 have encountered so far that actually sets it to empty. What is actually 
 happening somewhere is that I am getting the dgHilitedIndex of a datagrid, 
 and then putting the dgDataOfIndex into this global array, when there is 
 nothing selected in the datagrid. My problem is finding where this is 
 happening. I will try to find it using the search feature (very handy btw). 
 It would be easier if RR fixes this daggum problem though. This is a feature 
 that used to work. I know because GLX2 used to do this successfully.
 
 Bob
 
 
 On Jan 24, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Phil Davis wrote:
 
 I see. After reading Jacque's contribution also, maybe you want something 
 like this in your script?
 
if the keys of gMyGlobal = empty then breakpoint
 
 Phil
 
 
 On 1/24/12 9:30 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
 Hi Phil. I cannot change the variable to a local because it is the array 
 that contains the record data for the form I am using, so all objects have 
 to be aware of it.
 
 You set a variable checkpoint either in the debugger, or by script. I'll 
 be daggum if I remember the script command though.
 
 Bob
 
 
 On Jan 23, 2012, at 11:37 PM, Phil Davis wrote:
 
 Hi Bob,
 
 Does it crash when you set a breakpoint on a local? If not, can you 
 change the global to a local variable?
 
 Just grasping at straws... I've never set a breakpoint on a variable 
 declaration. Didn't know you could. Is your global declared in a handler 
 or outside all handlers? (I assume in a handler, otherwise the breakpoint 
 couldn't be triggered, right?)
 
 Phil Davis
 
 
 On 1/23/12 2:30 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
 I've mentioned it before, that if you set a breakpoint on a global, the 
 IDE will crash to desktop. I have verified this is a problem even when 
 all plugins are disabled. Does anyone know a workaround for this? I am 
 in desperate need of finding where an array is getting set to empty. For 
 whatever reason tracing it has been extremely elusive.
 
 Bob
 
 
 
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Re: How do I make something like a html imagemap on a graphical object?

2012-01-24 Thread Ken Corey


Hi William,

Take a look at the newletter issue 67:

http://runrev.com/newsletter/march/issue67/newsletter2.php

I happened to be checking things out in the old newsletters, and noticed 
that it does what you're talking about (along with a bit more, I gather).


-Ken

On 24/01/2012 21:11, William de Smet wrote:

Want I want to do is something like a html image map: define an area
where something happens.
I want the cursor to change 'on mouseenter' but only when the mouse is
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Answer file with multiple types

2012-01-24 Thread Bill Vlahos

This statement works for .txt files.
answer file Select the text file with type Text|txt

How would I allow both .txt and .csv files as multiple types? The documentation 
says it can be done but I'm not seeing the right syntax.

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Re: Breakpoints on a Global

Okay I found another obscure instance of the same thing and fixed it. I have 
learned a valuable lesson: Bail from handlers when there is no point 
proceeding. An empty value for the dhHilitedIndex in this particular handler 
produced the same visible results, but ended up setting my array (which the 
whole form is based upon) to empty. I really need to be more disciplined in my 
coding habits. 

I still would LOVE to see that variable watch feature fixed again though. That 
is insanely useful! 

Bob


 yup found one instance of that. Have to be careful though because I have a 
 second datagrid that is populated with related table data and uses the values 
 in the array in it's own query. sigh I just have to pore through the code. 
 
 Bob
 
 
 On Jan 24, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Phil Davis wrote:
 
 Hmmm. You probably already tried this, but... can you check for a non-empty 
 value in dgHilitedIndex before allowing the 'put... into...' to proceed? Of 
 course that's still a problem if it happens in 14 dozen different places.
 
 Maybe put the actual setting of the array inside a setProp handler, so your 
 setprop handler script can examine the 'set to' values before allowing it?
 
 Sounds frustrating indeed.
 
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Re: Answer file with multiple types

2012-01-24 Thread Ken Ray


On Jan 24, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote:

 This statement works for .txt files.
 answer file Select the text file with type Text|txt
 
 How would I allow both .txt and .csv files as multiple types? The 
 documentation says it can be done but I'm not seeing the right syntax.

answer file Select the text file with type Text|txt or type CSV|csv

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Re: Opening a Supercard file in Livecode?

It would work for user created objects, except how do you get datagrids to do 
this? All kinds of things in the datagrid are linked by long ID's to their 
behaviors by the engine. I'd be nervous about going into any functioning 
datagrid and trying to update all the object behavior references, and then when 
the datagrid creates new objects, unless you modify the datagrid library, it is 
also going to assign long ID's to those. 

This does bring up an interesting point though. I think the datagrid library 
could be updated in such a way that the objects it creates could be persistent, 
that is, given the same size datagrid, same rows and columns, the objects would 
not be deleted or recreated simply because the data changed. It would also 
address the issue of how to deal with adding data below the last data in the 
datagrid. If the cells were already there you would just double click on one to 
edit it. 

It would be quite an undertaking, but it is my opinion that the datagrid should 
have been designed this way to begin with. It solves a lot of problems we run 
into now, and we have discussed previously what happens in an app after a 
number of years of heavy use if you run out of ID's. It's hardly likely I 
suppose, but it's a possibility. Just thinking out loud here. 

Bob


On Jan 24, 2012, at 1:28 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

 uniquely naming all objects and using 'get the id of object name'
 instead of using any IDs at all would seem to solve this problem...
 
 of course would have to be a convention when starting a project.
 
 why wouldn't this work?
 
 On 24 January 2012 13:20, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:
 
 Yes the more I think about it, the more tedious it becomes. It seems the
 only way to do multiuser dev is to have the source stack available to a
 kind of checkout engine. A dev would have to check out an object at which
 point it would be unavailable to any other user. And you would have to have
 a running copy that was the exact replica of the original including ID's.
 Not sure how to do that.
 
 Way back when some made the argument that it was a bad idea to use ID's as
 references to objects. Now it seems we understand much more how true that
 is. We are beyond the point of know return now. :-)
 
 Bob
 
 
 On Jan 24, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Pete wrote:
 
 Bob,
 I think you'd have to find some way to preserve object IDs or a lot of
 stuff would break.  Datagrids, for example, store the row template as a
 long id.  And, as you pointed out, behaviors.
 
 
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Re: Opening a Supercard file in Livecode?

I am sure the Slug and/or Trevor will chime in here..  good points the
redirection might have an impact on the speed in this case...Maybe a
special 'data grid fixer' handler

On 24 January 2012 14:06, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

 It would work for user created objects, except how do you get datagrids to
 do this? All kinds of things in the datagrid are linked by long ID's to
 their behaviors by the engine. I'd be nervous about going into any
 functioning datagrid and trying to update all the object behavior
 references, and then when the datagrid creates new objects, unless you
 modify the datagrid library, it is also going to assign long ID's to those.

 This does bring up an interesting point though. I think the datagrid
 library could be updated in such a way that the objects it creates could be
 persistent, that is, given the same size datagrid, same rows and columns,
 the objects would not be deleted or recreated simply because the data
 changed. It would also address the issue of how to deal with adding data
 below the last data in the datagrid. If the cells were already there you
 would just double click on one to edit it.

 It would be quite an undertaking, but it is my opinion that the datagrid
 should have been designed this way to begin with. It solves a lot of
 problems we run into now, and we have discussed previously what happens in
 an app after a number of years of heavy use if you run out of ID's. It's
 hardly likely I suppose, but it's a possibility. Just thinking out loud
 here.

 Bob


 On Jan 24, 2012, at 1:28 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

  uniquely naming all objects and using 'get the id of object name'
  instead of using any IDs at all would seem to solve this problem...
 
  of course would have to be a convention when starting a project.
 
  why wouldn't this work?
 
  On 24 January 2012 13:20, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:
 
  Yes the more I think about it, the more tedious it becomes. It seems the
  only way to do multiuser dev is to have the source stack available to a
  kind of checkout engine. A dev would have to check out an object at
 which
  point it would be unavailable to any other user. And you would have to
 have
  a running copy that was the exact replica of the original including
 ID's.
  Not sure how to do that.
 
  Way back when some made the argument that it was a bad idea to use ID's
 as
  references to objects. Now it seems we understand much more how true
 that
  is. We are beyond the point of know return now. :-)
 
  Bob
 
 
  On Jan 24, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Pete wrote:
 
  Bob,
  I think you'd have to find some way to preserve object IDs or a lot of
  stuff would break.  Datagrids, for example, store the row template as a
  long id.  And, as you pointed out, behaviors.
 
 
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standalone icon

2012-01-24 Thread Art DiVito

Is it okay to use LC's default icons (they seem to be different for Macs and 
PCs) for a market product? How does one obtain a custom-made icon? Do you have 
to have separate ones for Macs and PCs? Can anyone here help me with this? 
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Re: Opening a Supercard file in Livecode?

I think we're each looking at this from different perspectives.

My objective is to compare two versions of the same stack file and list the
differences between them, that's it.  All the data collected about the
stack would be have to be keyed by object ids (perhaps with the exception
of stacks and images) in order to do that, I think, since names can and do
change and a name change would be something you'd want to know about.
 Isn't there some sort of user-assigned id available?  That could help.

There's definitely challenges to anything beyond that.   I have a feeling
that trying to recreate a stack would be a nightmare and Version control is
certainly a complex subject.

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:28 PM, stephen barncard 
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:

 uniquely naming all objects and using 'get the id of object name'
  instead of using any IDs at all would seem to solve this problem...

 of course would have to be a convention when starting a project.

 why wouldn't this work?

 On 24 January 2012 13:20, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

  Yes the more I think about it, the more tedious it becomes. It seems the
  only way to do multiuser dev is to have the source stack available to a
  kind of checkout engine. A dev would have to check out an object at which
  point it would be unavailable to any other user. And you would have to
 have
  a running copy that was the exact replica of the original including ID's.
  Not sure how to do that.
 
  Way back when some made the argument that it was a bad idea to use ID's
 as
  references to objects. Now it seems we understand much more how true that
  is. We are beyond the point of know return now. :-)
 
  Bob
 
 
  On Jan 24, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Pete wrote:
 
   Bob,
   I think you'd have to find some way to preserve object IDs or a lot of
   stuff would break.  Datagrids, for example, store the row template as a
   long id.  And, as you pointed out, behaviors.
 
 
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[ANN] mergZXing 1.0.3

2012-01-24 Thread Monte Goulding

Hi All

I have just updated mergZXing with a new bonus external mergMessage all still 
for the early bird price of US$49. With mergMessage you can send sms from 
livecode. There's one command:
mergMessage [pNumbers],[pBody]

and one function:
mergMessageCanSendText()

Cheers

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Re: Opening a Supercard file in Livecode?

Aye but the problems you face are the same ones with version control and 
multiuser development. Almost the exact same set of problems actually. 

Bob


On Jan 24, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Pete wrote:

 I think we're each looking at this from different perspectives.
 
 My objective is to compare two versions of the same stack file and list the
 differences between them, that's it.  


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Re: standalone icon

2012-01-24 Thread Mark Talluto

On Jan 24, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Art DiVito wrote:

 Is it okay to use LC's default icons (they seem to be different for Macs and 
 PCs) for a market product? How does one obtain a custom-made icon? Do you 
 have to have separate ones for Macs and PCs? Can anyone here help me with 
 this? Thanks.

Dear Art,

You will need to create your own Artwork for your icons.  There are a number of 
programs that can help with the details.  We use Axialis IconWorkshop.  It is 
affordable and the license gets your free updates for life.  It will output 
both Windows and Mac icon formats.  You can expect a single file for each 
platform.  You then point the standalone builder to each file for the 
appropriate platform.  


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Geometry Manager

Are there any lessons/examples/hints anywhere re using up the Geometry
settings for an object?  No being a very graphically inclined person, I'm
having a hell of a time trying to figure out how to make it work!


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Re: [ANN] mergZXing 1.0.3

2012-01-24 Thread Mark Talluto

Hi Monte,

This is excellent.  This feature alone enticed me to buy your work.  What are 
the rights on using your external in commercial work?


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On Jan 24, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Monte Goulding wrote:

 Hi All
 
 I have just updated mergZXing with a new bonus external mergMessage all still 
 for the early bird price of US$49. With mergMessage you can send sms from 
 livecode. There's one command:
 mergMessage [pNumbers],[pBody]
 
 and one function:
 mergMessageCanSendText()
 
 Cheers
 
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Re: Developing on Mac, standalone on Windows

Hi Ken,
The problem I'm having is centering two controls - one is a button with an
icon assigned to it and set to not display the name, and the other is a
label immediately below the icon that displays what would normally be the
button name.  I set the two obects to have their vertical centers aligned
during design.  All looks fine on the Mac but in the standalone Windows
version, they're not quite centered any more.

Also wanted to pass on a little change I made in your script for setting
fonts on different platforms, and that's our good old friend the datagrid.
 In order to set the text font used in a datagrid, you have to set the
dgprops[text font] of the datagrid, not the normal textfont property.
 Datagrids also have a text size and text style properties.  But all is
working just fine now so thanks for the pointers.

Pete

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 Oh also one thing that people forget about is that buttons have 'margins'
 just like fields do; I can't tell you how many times I've had to set the
 margins of a button to 'nudge' the label one way or the other… so you may
 be able to keep the width of the button, but just adjust the margins when
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Re: Geometry Manager

2012-01-24 Thread Colin Holgate

It is somewhat abstract. Try this lesson:

http://lessons.runrev.com/s/lessons/m/4067/l/19026-Geometry-Manager


On Jan 24, 2012, at 11:07 PM, Pete wrote:

 Are there any lessons/examples/hints anywhere re using up the Geometry
 settings for an object?  No being a very graphically inclined person, I'm
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Re: [ANN] mergZXing 1.0.3

2012-01-24 Thread Mark Talluto

Hi Monte,

I just found the licensing details on your server.  Should have looked before 
asking.


Best regards,

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 Hi All
 
 I have just updated mergZXing with a new bonus external mergMessage all still 
 for the early bird price of US$49. With mergMessage you can send sms from 
 livecode. There's one command:
 mergMessage [pNumbers],[pBody]
 
 and one function:
 mergMessageCanSendText()
 
 Cheers
 
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Re: [ANN] mergZXing 1.0.3

2012-01-24 Thread Andre Garzia

Those externals are great!!!

Guys, don't miss this one!


On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Mark Talluto use...@canelasoftware.comwrote:

 Hi Monte,

 This is excellent.  This feature alone enticed me to buy your work.  What
 are the rights on using your external in commercial work?


 Best regards,

 Mark Talluto
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  Hi All
 
  I have just updated mergZXing with a new bonus external mergMessage all
 still for the early bird price of US$49. With mergMessage you can send sms
 from livecode. There's one command:
  mergMessage [pNumbers],[pBody]
 
  and one function:
  mergMessageCanSendText()
 
  Cheers
 
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Re: Opening a Supercard file in Livecode?

there's the altID property, but it has a 16 bit range  65535

On 24 January 2012 14:41, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote:

 I think we're each looking at this from different perspectives.

  Isn't there some sort of user-assigned id available?  That could help.


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Re: [ANN] mergZXing 1.0.3

2012-01-24 Thread Monte Goulding

There is a separate license for each external as some use open source libraries.

Cheers

Monte

On 25/01/2012, at 10:17 AM, Mark Talluto wrote:

 Hi Monte,
 
 I just found the licensing details on your server.  Should have looked before 
 asking.
 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Mark Talluto
 http://www.canelasoftware.com
 
 
 
 
 
 On Jan 24, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Monte Goulding wrote:
 
 Hi All
 
 I have just updated mergZXing with a new bonus external mergMessage all 
 still for the early bird price of US$49. With mergMessage you can send sms 
 from livecode. There's one command:
 mergMessage [pNumbers],[pBody]
 
 and one function:
 mergMessageCanSendText()
 
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Re: Opening a Supercard file in Livecode?


stephen barncard wrote:


there's the altID property, but it has a 16 bit range  65535


You shouldn't need to use the altID for this, since the ability to set 
the ID property of any object was added to the engine a few versions 
back specifically to support efforts to make XML-stack translators for 
version control.


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Re: Opening a Supercard file in Livecode?

how are conflicts handled if one does that? Error thrown?

On 24 January 2012 16:00, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote:

 Thanks Richard, I remember now you posted that a couple days back.  So you
 just set the id of control xyz to do that?



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Re: standalone icon

Really?? I thought the EULA allowed for the use of the Livecode icons in a 
project made with Livecode?? 

Bob


On Jan 24, 2012, at 3:05 PM, Mark Talluto wrote:

 On Jan 24, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Art DiVito wrote:
 
 Is it okay to use LC's default icons (they seem to be different for Macs and 
 PCs) for a market product? How does one obtain a custom-made icon? Do you 
 have to have separate ones for Macs and PCs? Can anyone here help me with 
 this? Thanks.
 
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 You will need to create your own Artwork for your icons.  There are a number 
 of programs that can help with the details.  We use Axialis IconWorkshop.  It 
 is affordable and the license gets your free updates for life.  It will 
 output both Windows and Mac icon formats.  You can expect a single file for 
 each platform.  You then point the standalone builder to each file for the 
 appropriate platform.  
 
 
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Re: Geometry Manager

Someone made a better geometry manager called NativeGeometry. Check it out. 
It's supposed to be much superior to the Livecode one. 

Bob


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Re: Geometry Manager

Thanks Colin.  I read the lesson but still can't get the effect I want.
 Maybe I'm trying to use the geometry manager for something it's not
designed to do?

I have a group on a card that has a number of controls in it.  If the user
resizes the card, I want the group to resize in proportion to the amount
the card is resized and for the vertical/horizontal scrollbars of the group
to become active if any of its controls are outside the boundaries of the
group.

I thought this could make this work by choosing Scale selected object and
specifying an absolute or relative link to the right edge of the card (and
the bottom).  But if I resize the card to be narrower, the group doesn't
resize - instead, its left edge is pushed beyond the left edge of the card
and of course the horizontal scrollbar doesn't activate since all the
group's controls are still within its boundaries, even though they are off
the screen.

I've tried linking the group to different combinations of the edges of the
card, other controls, absolute and relative links and no matter how I
resize the card, the group never resizes.

Pete

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 It is somewhat abstract. Try this lesson:

 http://lessons.runrev.com/s/lessons/m/4067/l/19026-Geometry-Manager


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  settings for an object?  No being a very graphically inclined person, I'm
  having a hell of a time trying to figure out how to make it work!


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Re: Geometry Manager


On 1/24/12 7:25 PM, Pete wrote:


I've tried linking the group to different combinations of the edges of the
card, other controls, absolute and relative links and no matter how I
resize the card, the group never resizes.


Is the group's lockLoc set to true? After the geometry manager finishes, 
the group will spring back to encompass all its controls if it isn't locked.


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Re: Breakpoints on a Global

2012-01-24 Thread Mark Wieder

Bob Sneidar bobs@... writes:

 though. This is a feature that used to work. I know because GLX2 used to do
this successfully. 

You're confusing breakpoints and watched variables. It used to be that you
couldn't set a watch on a global variable, but that bug (6506) was fixed in
version 4.5.2. If you're using PowerDebug for this, just click to the left of
the global name in the global variables display at the top. If you're using the
IDE, do whatever (sorry, I can't remember). If you want to do this by script,

put the watchedvariables into tVars
put ,,tVariableName,tValue  cr after tVars
set the watchedvariables to tVars

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Re: Looking for beta testers import of passwords to InfoWallet

2012-01-24 Thread Bill Vlahos

Thanks to all the folks who tested the new version and gave me feedback. I'm 
happy to announce I was able to release the new version tonight that can import 
passwords from other programs.

Bill Vlahos
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InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life 
information with you, accessible, and secure.

On Jan 22, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote:

 I'm looking for people to test the import of passwords into InfoWallet from 
 tab-delimited or comma-delimited(csv) text files. These would be files 
 exported from whatever existing password management program you might be 
 using.
 
 If you are interested and don't already have a license for InfoWallet, simply 
 download the trial version from the web site and send me an email so that I 
 can send you the new update. The trial version doesn't have any limits on the 
 number of records so it will work fine for this test.
 
 As an incentive to test this today (January 22, 2012), anyone who can test 
 and send me the results today will get a free license for InfoWallet.
 
 Bill Vlahos
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 InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life 
 information with you, accessible, and secure.
 
 
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