[ANN] Launcher X 0b02 - The Classic Replacement for the OSX Dock
Hi, I have always been thinking that the Dock is a very limited piece of software and that the old Launcher control panel, which was available in Mac OS 9, was actually more useful. The Launcher application could store as many links as you wanted and you could organise the links in whatever way you liked. So... I used the weekend to create a Launcher app with Revolution. The beta version is available for download here http://qery.us/237 . Launcher X 0b02 is freeware and works on Intel Macs with Mac OS X 10.4.11 and later. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 We will have room for new projects after 1 June. Contact me now and be first in line. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Serial Comms in 4.6.4
Dar, It is the same as this I found below , If complied on 4.0.0 it works , If complied on later versions if fails to read. Regards Camm On Nov 7, 2010, at 10:07 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 11/7/10 9:18 AM, Larry Walker wrote: I am trying to read data from a serial port (using a USB-serial adaptor). Glad to see this here Larry. Just to fill everyone in, Larry and I have been going around with this issue for about a week in the tech queue without success (and I really appreciate his patience, he's been incredibly reasonable about it.) I asked Mark Waddingham about the problem and he said that basically the serial commands haven't been changed since their initial implementation back in MetaCard, and that any device that represents itself as a serial device should work with open file (but not necessarily with the device name returned by the drivernames. Use modem: or printer: instead.) He also said that they have never been reworked to support OS X; they were originally written for OS 9 and have always continued to work in OS X, so the code hasn't been examined. Eric's comment that it works in 4.0 and not in 4.5 is something I don't think the team knows about. Since serial access hasn't changed in the engine, there must be some other change that peripherally affects serial port access. If that's so, then a bug report in the QCC would be in order. I hope either Sarah or Phil will see this, since they are the serial/USB experts here. Maybe they have some comments to add or a workaround they've discovered. - Original Message - From: Dar Scott d...@swcp.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, 13 May, 2012 8:17:45 PM Subject: Re: Serial Comms in 4.6.4 I'm not sure what you mean. Are you saying you upgraded to Windows 7 and LiveCode 4.6.4 at the same time? I have heard that some people have had trouble with Windows 7 and serial ports. Perhaps modems are especially an issue. Do you see the port in the device manager? Can you connect with HyperTerminal? What error results do you get? (You might have to create a version of your script that logs those.) Have the scripts ever worked on this Windows 7 installation? As you can probably tell, I'm leaning towards eliminating non-LiveCode issues and then looking at the script, but the script errors can give clues to both. Dar On May 13, 2012, at 4:23 AM, Camm wrote: Dar , Windows 7 All hardware has been checked okay. When using read from driver in scripts loaded into 4.6.4 or standalone from 4.6.4 nothing is read ? The identical script loaded in pre-windows 7 Livecode releases work. Thanks Camm -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Dar Scott Sent: 13 May 2012 05:43 To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Serial Comms in 4.6.4 Hi, Camm! I don't remember any changes. Maybe this can be tracked down. What OS? How does it fail? However, you might want to rule out other things. I find the most common reason that a serial communications program suddenly fails is a cable issue. Usually the handshake lines don't make it trough or something else is wrong in the wiring. Sometimes the USB-to-serial adaptor is an issue. Dar On May 12, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Camm wrote: Has something changed in the use of open , close , read , write driver and/or SerialControlString string in version 4.6.4. I have a stack for serial comms that works fine if run in older versions of Livecode , but fails to read in version 4.6.4 Same script ?? Regards Camm --- Dar Scott dba Dar Scott Consulting 8637 Horacio Place NE Albuquerque, NM 87111 Lab, home, office phone: +1 505 299 9497 For Skype and fax, please contact. d...@swcp.com Computer Programming and tinkering, often making LiveCode libraries and externals, sometimes writing associated microcontroller firmware. --- ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4996 - Release Date: 05/13/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4996 - Release Date: 05/13/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4996 - Release Date: 05/13/12 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4996 - Release Date: 05/13/12 ___ use-livecode
Text Scroll Field - Livecode iOS
Hi there, Has anyone gotten a text field to scroll properly on the iPad with a swiping gesture? I worked through the example provided below. Things work fine in Livecode, but not correctly in the simulator or on the iPad directly. I can see the scroll control moving but the text field itself won't scroll. Ideas and suggestions are most welcome. http://lessons.runrev.com/s/lessons/m/4071/l/44421-how-to-create-a-scrolling-group-using-the-improved-graphics-architecture Thanks, Rick ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalone problem
On 5/13/12 11:50 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: You can only load externals in a preOpenStack handler, I had a thinko. It's startup I believe. They may both work, it's been a while so I'd need to check. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Text Scroll Field - Livecode iOS
Hi Rick, You're almost done. Handle the scrollerDidScroll message and use it to adjust the vScroll and hScroll of your field. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 We will have room for new projects after 1 June. Contact me now and be first in line. On 14 mei 2012, at 17:13, Rick Harrison wrote: Hi there, Has anyone gotten a text field to scroll properly on the iPad with a swiping gesture? I worked through the example provided below. Things work fine in Livecode, but not correctly in the simulator or on the iPad directly. I can see the scroll control moving but the text field itself won't scroll. Ideas and suggestions are most welcome. http://lessons.runrev.com/s/lessons/m/4071/l/44421-how-to-create-a-scrolling-group-using-the-improved-graphics-architecture Thanks, Rick ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Text Scroll Field - Livecode iOS
Rick, Scroll your field in the scrollerDidScroll handler Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Rick Harrison Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 11:13 AM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Text Scroll Field - Livecode iOS Hi there, Has anyone gotten a text field to scroll properly on the iPad with a swiping gesture? I worked through the example provided below. Things work fine in Livecode, but not correctly in the simulator or on the iPad directly. I can see the scroll control moving but the text field itself won't scroll. Ideas and suggestions are most welcome. http://lessons.runrev.com/s/lessons/m/4071/l/44421-how-to-create-a-scrolling -group-using-the-improved-graphics-architecture Thanks, Rick ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Standalone problem
Hi Craig, please check my new answer in the forum! Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting a single column of a datagrid
It came from Trevor that way. I had to clean it up as well. It works though. I used this technique to create my own kind of printKeys function. Instead of breaking out each key as a line in the text, and then the value as key:value, I create a single line for each key with a value, and then I bracket all the key names to distinguish them from the value. This has several advantages. I can now filter the result by any of the keys. I can also reconstruct the array after the filtering is done so I can effectively filter an array. Pretty handy at times. Let me know if you want those functions as well. Bob On May 12, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Peter M. Brigham, MD wrote: Thanks, Bob. BTW, don't know why but as you can see your LC scripts tend to have asterisks bracketing keywords, not to mention extra blank lines. Are you pasting formatted text that's getting mis-translated? I can clean this up and try it out, thanks again. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig On May 10, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: *function* PrintArray @pArray, pDimension, pFullData *if* pDimension is empty *then* *put* 0 into pDimension *put* the keys of pArray into theKeys *sort* theKeys numeric *repeat* for each line theKey in theKeys *if* pArray[theKey] is an array *then* *put* _printCharXTimes(space, pDimension * 5) theKey cr aftertheText *put* pArray[theKey] into theTempArray *put* PrintArray(theTempArray, pDimension + 1, pFullData) aftertheText *else* *if* pFullData *then* *put* _printCharXTimes(space, pDimension * 5) theKey : pArray[theKey] cr after theText *else* *put* _printCharXTimes(space, pDimension * 5) theKey : line 1 of pArray[theKey] cr after theText *end* *if* *end* *if* *end* *repeat* *return* theText *end* PrintArray *private* *function* _printCharXTimes pChar, pTimes *local* theStr *repeat* with i = 1 to pTimes *put* pChar after theStr *end* *repeat* *return* theStr *end* _printCharXTimes ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: array mystery
Yup that is pretty much what Trevor did. Bob On May 12, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Peter M. Brigham, MD wrote: On May 10, 2012, at 5:49 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I just forwarded an email Trevor sent to the list some time ago with the code in it. Bob On May 10, 2012, at 2:34 PM, Peter M. Brigham, MD wrote: It was apparently part of Trevor's sqlYoga, supposedly made available now as an opensource utility handler, but I can't find it. The Nabble archives show an altPrintKeys() function but the output is not a readable display of the structure of an array, it's designed for utility work in massaging arrays. I'd like to get hold of the original printKeys() handler somewhere. Where can I find it? In case anyone else wants it, I'm posting below a slightly modified version of the function, renamed displayArray to distinguish it from the variants that Bob has posted for utility work. This version simply allows you to look at the contents of an array in outline form, which makes the structure of the array quite clear on inspection. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig -- function displayArray @pArray, pFullData, pDimension -- displays an array as an outline-style list -- most useful for multidimensional arrays, to see the structure -- if an element of the array contains more than one line, --the first line only will be displayed (less confusing to look at) -- if you want to see the full data then pass pFullData = true -- pDimension is an internally used parameter -- pArray is referenced to avoid duplicating large arrays, but --the array is not altered by this function -- call it like this: put displayArray(tArray) into fld peruse -- requires spaces() if pDimension is empty then put 0 into pDimension if pFullData = empty then put false into pFullData put the keys of pArray into theKeys if line 1 of theKeys is a number then sort theKeys numeric else sort theKeys end if repeat for each line theKey in theKeys if pArray[theKey] is an array then put spaces(pDimension * 3) theKey cr after theText put pArray[theKey] into theTempArray put displayArray(theTempArray, pFullData, pDimension + 1) after theText else if pFullData then put spaces(pDimension * 3) theKey : \ pArray[theKey] cr after theText else put pArray[theKey] into tElement if the number of lines of tElement 1 then put ... into tTrailer else put empty into tTrailer end if put spaces(pDimension * 3) theKey : \ (line 1 of tElement) tTrailer cr after theText end if end if end repeat return theText end displayArray function spaces n -- returns a string of n spaces put into s repeat n put space after s end repeat return s end spaces ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Mac Beach Ball Party (or welcome to hell, here's your mac)
I respectfully disagree. Spotlight is designed to give up processor usage if something else needs it. If you get the beachball while spotlight is indexing, there is something wrong, and that is not normal. Bob On May 11, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: Actually missed a big one off the list. Spotlight - which would show up as mdworker in Activity Monitor. If you've added a 'new' HD, internal or external and haven't set Spotlight to ignore it then Spotlight may take forever to process it and you will definitely end up with the beachball. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Mac Beach Ball Party (or welcome to hell, here's your mac)
BINGO! Wipe and reinstall time. Sorry. Dev previews are notorious for this. A bunch of guys here used the RC1 of Tiger to upgrade their production machines, against my vehement objections. They all paid the terrible price. Well, the price is not so terrible, just a nuisance. Bob On May 11, 2012, at 10:46 PM, stephen barncard wrote: yes thank you Kay, actually these are the first places I looked, the usual suspects. Something deeper might be going on, including the fact that I was using a developer preview when I first installed Lion, and it never let me upgrade beyond .0 On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: Actually missed a big one off the list. Spotlight - which would show up as mdworker in Activity Monitor. If you've added a 'new' HD, internal or external and haven't set Spotlight to ignore it then Spotlight may take forever to process it and you will definitely end up with the beachball. New in this case would mean something like moving your 1.75TB of backups to a new 3TB drive. Spotlight will spend forever doing it's thing to the 1.75TB already on the drive. I always add Backup/Archive HDs to Spotlight's Privacy list - but many times I forget with upgrades and it isn't until I'm left with an unresponsive system that I crack open AM and find the culprit. Also, what Sharing services have you set up. Is it possible someone is accessing iTunes, iPhoto or large files - you turned it on and forgot to turn it off? What about iCloud, are you snap happy and is iPhoto constantly updating your last 1000 photos to iCloud? Again, AM should help you pin point it. HTH ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Text Scroll Field - Livecode iOS
Hi Mark Ralph, Thanks that worked fine! Cheers, Rick On May 14, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Rick, You're almost done. Handle the scrollerDidScroll message and use it to adjust the vScroll and hScroll of your field. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 We will have room for new projects after 1 June. Contact me now and be first in line. On 14 mei 2012, at 17:13, Rick Harrison wrote: Hi there, Has anyone gotten a text field to scroll properly on the iPad with a swiping gesture? I worked through the example provided below. Things work fine in Livecode, but not correctly in the simulator or on the iPad directly. I can see the scroll control moving but the text field itself won't scroll. Ideas and suggestions are most welcome. http://lessons.runrev.com/s/lessons/m/4071/l/44421-how-to-create-a-scrolling-group-using-the-improved-graphics-architecture Thanks, Rick ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Blowing my mind about Linux
That is because they had guns pointed at their back. Bob On May 12, 2012, at 4:56 AM, Richmond wrote: You are quite right, and I apologise. I am well aware what happened; the people were slaughtered. However, an awful lot of the people who were slaughtered did not stop to question when they were told to get on trains for resettlement camps in the East. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Auto-opening folders
Not sure I like auto opening the folder, but I would like a way to open the folder from the app if I want to, sort of like Firefox does with downloads. Some kind of Open containing folder... thing. Bob On May 12, 2012, at 11:45 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: A quick poll: If an app creates a folder with files in it, do you like it if the app takes you to the desktop and opens the folder? Or would you rather remain in the app and open the folder later yourself? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: When is the CONTROL key not a control key?
I think you just violated Microsoft's Keyboard End Use policy. Expect to be contacted by their Icon Integrity Enforcement department soon. You should have just pulled the sticker off your mattress for heaven's sake! Bob On May 13, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Richmond wrote: PPS: Yes, fanboy that I am my laptop's Special key has such a sticker. Oh; I just scraped off the initial sign with a pen-knife... :) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sort of a problem
Can I come live there? It may be the only Conservative county left pretty soon! Bob On May 12, 2012, at 8:17 PM, Jim Hurley wrote: Thanks Peter. But I live in a very conservative county. None of yer fancy diagonals here. NW indeed! Actually it is the County election database, and a search reveals only N, E, S, and W. I think I finally get the phrase by of each. Live Code does pretty much what I did, except I'm sure they don't use a bubble sort. Jim Message: 2 Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 12:22:38 -0400 From: Peter M. Brigham, MD pmb...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Sort of a problem Message-ID: 50a823d6-005e-47de-9a05-4b7ba094e...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If you have streets like SW 34th St you'll have a problem -- you should probably adjust your pickStreet function: function pickStreet pName if word 1 of pName is among the words of N S E W NE NW SE SW then return word 2 to -1 of pName end if return pName end pickStreet -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Adjusting Edit Menu items
Thanks Jacque. Yes, there was no perceptible performance hit by processing all menus so all OK there. I agree that the shortcut keys should be enabled/disabled in parallel with their associated Edit menu items but I'm not seeing that behavior. Here's what I did on a card with just one editable field. I haven't written any code to handle the command key shortcuts. - made sure the cursor was in the field and the field was empty - clicked the edit menu, everything was disabled - typed some data into the field - checked the Edit menu again - all still disabled - selected some text in the field and pressed command-C to copy - moved the cursor to a different place in the field and pressed command-V - the copied text was pasted into the field This was in the IDE (with my application's menu bar enabled), LC 5.0, OS X 10.6.8. I haven't tried it in a standalone yet Am I missing something? Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 6:53 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 5/13/12 4:39 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: I discovered then that there's a problem with those group mouseDown handlers on a Mac - it's impossible to tell which menu was clicked because target and me both return the name of the menu group, not the menu that was clicked, so you end up adjusting menus when they don't need adjusting. To complicate matters more, on Windows, the target does return the menu button name. I just set everything. It's fast enough. I have one mousedown menu handler that adjusts twenty or more items and it's fine. You could try it and see how it goes. Menu buttons on OS X don't receive messages, which is why you aren't getting the info you want, and why the mousedown handler has to be in the group. If an Edit menu item is disabled, does it's Mac command key and Windows shortcut key equivalent still work? If not, that would be an issue with this approach unless I watch for those keys as well as using a mouseDown handler. If a menu item is disabled, so is its command key. That seems reasonable to me. The command keys are just shortcuts to the menu items and should behave the same. You can work around it with a commandKeyDown handler in the card or stack. That will always fire, but it can interfere with the real menu shortcuts sometimes. Another way to handle it is to re-enable menu items the user might need at the end of a menupick handler. If the menus aren't pulled down, no one can tell if the items are enabled or not and their command keys will always work. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Auto-opening folders
Can only test on windows but you can do launch document path/to/folder on windows and it opens right up. On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Not sure I like auto opening the folder, but I would like a way to open the folder from the app if I want to, sort of like Firefox does with downloads. Some kind of Open containing folder... thing. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Adjusting Edit Menu items
Actually, I was not aware you could disable system menu items. It may be that LC is greying out the items, but still handling the hot keys. I suppose there ought to be a way to prevent copying content in LC as a security precaution, say for copyrighted material as an example. Bob On May 14, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: Thanks Jacque. Yes, there was no perceptible performance hit by processing all menus so all OK there. I agree that the shortcut keys should be enabled/disabled in parallel with their associated Edit menu items but I'm not seeing that behavior. Here's what I did on a card with just one editable field. I haven't written any code to handle the command key shortcuts. - made sure the cursor was in the field and the field was empty - clicked the edit menu, everything was disabled - typed some data into the field - checked the Edit menu again - all still disabled - selected some text in the field and pressed command-C to copy - moved the cursor to a different place in the field and pressed command-V - the copied text was pasted into the field This was in the IDE (with my application's menu bar enabled), LC 5.0, OS X 10.6.8. I haven't tried it in a standalone yet Am I missing something? Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 6:53 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 5/13/12 4:39 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: I discovered then that there's a problem with those group mouseDown handlers on a Mac - it's impossible to tell which menu was clicked because target and me both return the name of the menu group, not the menu that was clicked, so you end up adjusting menus when they don't need adjusting. To complicate matters more, on Windows, the target does return the menu button name. I just set everything. It's fast enough. I have one mousedown menu handler that adjusts twenty or more items and it's fine. You could try it and see how it goes. Menu buttons on OS X don't receive messages, which is why you aren't getting the info you want, and why the mousedown handler has to be in the group. If an Edit menu item is disabled, does it's Mac command key and Windows shortcut key equivalent still work? If not, that would be an issue with this approach unless I watch for those keys as well as using a mouseDown handler. If a menu item is disabled, so is its command key. That seems reasonable to me. The command keys are just shortcuts to the menu items and should behave the same. You can work around it with a commandKeyDown handler in the card or stack. That will always fire, but it can interfere with the real menu shortcuts sometimes. Another way to handle it is to re-enable menu items the user might need at the end of a menupick handler. If the menus aren't pulled down, no one can tell if the items are enabled or not and their command keys will always work. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Auto-opening folders
Works on Mac too, but the path to folder needs to begin with / as in /Volumes/BOOTCAMP/. Bob On May 14, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: Can only test on windows but you can do launch document path/to/folder on windows and it opens right up. On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Not sure I like auto opening the folder, but I would like a way to open the folder from the app if I want to, sort of like Firefox does with downloads. Some kind of Open containing folder... thing. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Auto-opening folders
Works for relative pathing too. For example if the defaultfolder is still set to the location of livecode you can launch document Runtime (or any of the other folders from the current default location) and it works fine for me on win. Even works with bizzarro pathing ../.. will open the directory 2 levels above the defaultfolder On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Works on Mac too, but the path to folder needs to begin with / as in /Volumes/BOOTCAMP/. Bob On May 14, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: Can only test on windows but you can do launch document path/to/folder on windows and it opens right up. On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Not sure I like auto opening the folder, but I would like a way to open the folder from the app if I want to, sort of like Firefox does with downloads. Some kind of Open containing folder... thing. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Auto-opening folders
Whenever faced with options like this, I'd rather have a preference that I could set. You will have both kinds of users, so why not give them the choice? On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Works on Mac too, but the path to folder needs to begin with / as in /Volumes/BOOTCAMP/. Bob On May 14, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: Can only test on windows but you can do launch document path/to/folder on windows and it opens right up. On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Not sure I like auto opening the folder, but I would like a way to open the folder from the app if I want to, sort of like Firefox does with downloads. Some kind of Open containing folder... thing. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Blowing my mind about Linux
On 05/14/2012 07:00 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: That is because they had guns pointed at their back. Not in all cases. Like everything else, this was not quite as simplistic as some would have it be. Of course this in no way lessens the horror of what happened; I, at least, am not one of those fools who want to make people believe that the Nazis did not slaughter 10 million people; Jews, Homosexuals, Seventh Day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Gypsies, Communists and more. Although, from time to time I do get annoyed that everybody but the Jews in that list do somehow seem to get overlooked. Bob On May 12, 2012, at 4:56 AM, Richmond wrote: You are quite right, and I apologise. I am well aware what happened; the people were slaughtered. However, an awful lot of the people who were slaughtered did not stop to question when they were told to get on trains for resettlement camps in the East. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: When is the CONTROL key not a control key?
On 05/14/2012 07:21 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I think you just violated Microsoft's Keyboard End Use policy. Expect to be contacted by their Icon Integrity Enforcement department soon. You should have just pulled the sticker off your mattress for heaven's sake! If, like me, you lived in the parallel universe of second-hand goods you would realise that I have never owned a mattress that has had a label! LOL! Bob On May 13, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Richmond wrote: PPS: Yes, fanboy that I am my laptop's Special key has such a sticker. Oh; I just scraped off the initial sign with a pen-knife... :) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Problem with QT Player
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 8:11 AM, David C. davidoco...@gmail.com wrote: Hey folks, I have a very simple application in which one aspect of the app uses the QT player, always pointing to the same named MP3 file on my server. Yesterday, I went to visit a friend and gave him a copy of the app to try out and every aspect of the application worked as intended except for the QT player. Where the controls would normally be located, there was nothing but a white empty space instead. Just to be sure there wasn't a problem with his QuickTime installation, I had him download and install the latest copy, yet we got the sames results. I tried the same application on my laptop (positioned right beside his and NOT being the machine I developed the application on) and it works flawlessly. The app was built on a Win 7 machine running LC 4.51, my friend's laptop is a Win 7 machine and the laptop I used to run the test beside his is a Win Vista machine. This is the first time I've used the Player control so I'm stumped. Is there some sort of QT external required or do you have any ideas what might be happening? -- Best regards, David C. Bump! ...overlooked, ignored or just no clues of what might be causing the problem? I always brush my teeth before contacting the list and today I added fresh cologne before sending this message. ;-) Thanks, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Blowing my mind about Linux
What is often overlooked as well is that many Christians were persecuted and slaughtered as well, especially those who helped Jews (and anyone else) escape Germany. Bob On May 14, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Richmond wrote: On 05/14/2012 07:00 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: That is because they had guns pointed at their back. Not in all cases. Like everything else, this was not quite as simplistic as some would have it be. Of course this in no way lessens the horror of what happened; I, at least, am not one of those fools who want to make people believe that the Nazis did not slaughter 10 million people; Jews, Homosexuals, Seventh Day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Gypsies, Communists and more. Although, from time to time I do get annoyed that everybody but the Jews in that list do somehow seem to get overlooked. Bob On May 12, 2012, at 4:56 AM, Richmond wrote: You are quite right, and I apologise. I am well aware what happened; the people were slaughtered. However, an awful lot of the people who were slaughtered did not stop to question when they were told to get on trains for resettlement camps in the East. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Mac Beach Ball Party (or welcome to hell, here's your mac)
summary of my 'lost weekend': 1. I finally did a complete 10.7.4 re-install on Sunday. Installing apple store* Lion 10.7.4* on top of a previous installation worked better, but still took over 4 minutes to completely boot up. Some applications will still seem sluggish when starting up. No beachball though. It took about 9 hours to install. Most disturbing on this install is the progress indicator, telling me 36 hours at first, but later settling into alternating between 24 and 12. In other words, progress indicators don't mean squat. 2. A 'fresh' install of 10.7.4 with migrated files will take less than a minute to completely boot up. Things seem pretty normal now. It took 18 hours for this latest apple store version to install and move all the files (via migration assistant). I can imagine it would take a couple of days if I had a filled 1TB disk and tried to do this. 3. A 'fresh' install of 10.7.4 without migrating my thousands of documents and hundreds of applications is blindingly fast and boots faster than the above. other settings that may help avoid Mr. Beachball and delays: Turn off the 'size' checkbox and 'show icon preview' in folder prefs, then click use as defaults On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: BINGO! Wipe and reinstall time. Sorry. Dev previews are notorious for this. A bunch of guys here used the RC1 of Tiger to upgrade their production machines, against my vehement objections. They all paid the terrible price. Well, the price is not so terrible, just a nuisance. Bob On May 11, 2012, at 10:46 PM, stephen barncard wrote: yes thank you Kay, actually these are the first places I looked, the usual suspects. Something deeper might be going on, including the fact that I was using a developer preview when I first installed Lion, and it never let me upgrade beyond .0 On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: Actually missed a big one off the list. Spotlight - which would show up as mdworker in Activity Monitor. If you've added a 'new' HD, internal or external and haven't set Spotlight to ignore it then Spotlight may take forever to process it and you will definitely end up with the beachball. New in this case would mean something like moving your 1.75TB of backups to a new 3TB drive. Spotlight will spend forever doing it's thing to the 1.75TB already on the drive. I always add Backup/Archive HDs to Spotlight's Privacy list - but many times I forget with upgrades and it isn't until I'm left with an unresponsive system that I crack open AM and find the culprit. Also, what Sharing services have you set up. Is it possible someone is accessing iTunes, iPhoto or large files - you turned it on and forgot to turn it off? What about iCloud, are you snap happy and is iPhoto constantly updating your last 1000 photos to iCloud? Again, AM should help you pin point it. HTH ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Problem with QT Player
David, This is a tricky question, because there are too many factors playing a role here. Think of the URL of the MP3 file, the Windows firewall, the visibility of the stack window, the rect of the player, the moment when the filename property of the player is set, the moment when the stack window is made visible, the time needed to load the MP3 file, etc. I think you need to go back to his machine, install LiveCode on it and debug your stack step by step. Just to be sure, what's the URL to the MP3 file? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 We will have room for new projects after 1 June. Contact me now and be first in line. Bump! ...overlooked, ignored or just no clues of what might be causing the problem? I always brush my teeth before contacting the list and today I added fresh cologne before sending this message. ;-) Thanks, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Mac Beach Ball Party (or welcome to hell, here's your mac)
my statements may have appeared contradictory in the previous message. 1. I did a apple store* Lion 10.7.4* on top of a previous installation on Saturday. 9 hours 2. I did a fresh 10.7.4 re-install on Sunday. 18 hours re-written: summary of my 'lost weekend': 1. Installing apple store* Lion 10.7.4* on top of a previous installation worked better, but still took over 4 minutes to completely boot up. Some applications will still seem sluggish when starting up. No beachball though. It took about 9 hours to install. Most disturbing on this install is the progress indicator, telling me 36 hours at first, but later settling into alternating between 24 and 12. In other words, progress indicators don't mean squat. 2. I finally did a fresh 10.7.4 re-install on Sunday. A 'fresh' install of 10.7.4 with migrated files will take less than a minute to completely boot up. Things seem pretty normal now. It took 18 hours for this latest apple store version to install and move all the files (via migration assistant). I can imagine it would take a couple of days if I had a filled 1TB disk and tried to do this. 3. A 'fresh' install of 10.7.4 without migrating my thousands of documents and hundreds of applications is blindingly fast and boots faster than the above. other settings that may help avoid Mr. Beachball and delays: Turn off the 'size' checkbox and 'show icon preview' in folder prefs, then click use as defaults Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Mac Beach Ball Party (or welcome to hell, here's your mac)
Are you using USB? Is it on a USB bus with other drives that may be in use? That would suck up the already limited bandwidth on a USB chain. Firewire 800 seems to take a couple hours or less for most of my migrations. Bob On May 14, 2012, at 11:29 AM, stephen barncard wrote: my statements may have appeared contradictory in the previous message. 1. I did a apple store* Lion 10.7.4* on top of a previous installation on Saturday. 9 hours 2. I did a fresh 10.7.4 re-install on Sunday. 18 hours re-written: summary of my 'lost weekend': 1. Installing apple store* Lion 10.7.4* on top of a previous installation worked better, but still took over 4 minutes to completely boot up. Some applications will still seem sluggish when starting up. No beachball though. It took about 9 hours to install. Most disturbing on this install is the progress indicator, telling me 36 hours at first, but later settling into alternating between 24 and 12. In other words, progress indicators don't mean squat. 2. I finally did a fresh 10.7.4 re-install on Sunday. A 'fresh' install of 10.7.4 with migrated files will take less than a minute to completely boot up. Things seem pretty normal now. It took 18 hours for this latest apple store version to install and move all the files (via migration assistant). I can imagine it would take a couple of days if I had a filled 1TB disk and tried to do this. 3. A 'fresh' install of 10.7.4 without migrating my thousands of documents and hundreds of applications is blindingly fast and boots faster than the above. other settings that may help avoid Mr. Beachball and delays: Turn off the 'size' checkbox and 'show icon preview' in folder prefs, then click use as defaults Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Mac Beach Ball Party (or welcome to hell, here's your mac)
No, I would never do that. I know USB was made for keyboards and dongles and useless for big data movement. This was done on a new Mac Pro copying between internal drives. (there are 4 possible on a Pro). The installers and migrators appear to be much slower than 'regular' file copy. I have a lot of files. Over a million. On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Are you using USB? Is it on a USB bus with other drives that may be in use? That would suck up the already limited bandwidth on a USB chain. Firewire 800 seems to take a couple hours or less for most of my migrations. Bob On May 14, 2012, at 11:29 AM, stephen barncard wrote: my statements may have appeared contradictory in the previous message. 1. I did a apple store* Lion 10.7.4* on top of a previous installation on Saturday. 9 hours 2. I did a fresh 10.7.4 re-install on Sunday. 18 hours re-written: summary of my 'lost weekend': 1. Installing apple store* Lion 10.7.4* on top of a previous installation worked better, but still took over 4 minutes to completely boot up. Some applications will still seem sluggish when starting up. No beachball though. It took about 9 hours to install. Most disturbing on this install is the progress indicator, telling me 36 hours at first, but later settling into alternating between 24 and 12. In other words, progress indicators don't mean squat. 2. I finally did a fresh 10.7.4 re-install on Sunday. A 'fresh' install of 10.7.4 with migrated files will take less than a minute to completely boot up. Things seem pretty normal now. It took 18 hours for this latest apple store version to install and move all the files (via migration assistant). I can imagine it would take a couple of days if I had a filled 1TB disk and tried to do this. 3. A 'fresh' install of 10.7.4 without migrating my thousands of documents and hundreds of applications is blindingly fast and boots faster than the above. other settings that may help avoid Mr. Beachball and delays: Turn off the 'size' checkbox and 'show icon preview' in folder prefs, then click use as defaults Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
tilde after .rev in file name
Something bad happened to one of my stacks. I wasn't doing anything unusual. (Nor was the stack, or LiveCode. My wife might have been doing something unusual in the next room.) I did have a number of applications running at the same time, and I only have 2 GB of physical RAM. It might have been maxed. This could have caused a problem. Normally, I try to avoid running out of physical RAM. I closed, quit, tried to re-open, got a corrupted message. Some version of the stack got saved, missing half of its megabytes. I shut down, re-booted, noticed that the file name had a tilde after it. Didn't know why. Had I bumped the keyboard and added the tilde inadvertently? (Seemed unlikely.) I removed the tilde. The stack opens and runs okay now. I wrote a script that goes to each card, with screen and messages unlocked. It seems okay. Two questions: 1-How did the tilde get there? Did liveCode do it, the OS, or my elbow? 2-Given the foregoing is it safe to continue using this stack and adding new content to it? (With some inconvenience, I could revert to an older backup of the same stack.) Thanks in advance, Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Mac Beach Ball Party (or welcome to hell, here's your mac)
I actually stopped using migration back around Tiger because of how painfully slow it was. I've found it quicker to reinstall my apps and just copy my documents over. All of my film and music stuff are on a SAS array, so they don't come into the process. Tim On May 14, 2012, at 11:49 AM, stephen barncard wrote: No, I would never do that. I know USB was made for keyboards and dongles and useless for big data movement. This was done on a new Mac Pro copying between internal drives. (there are 4 possible on a Pro). The installers and migrators appear to be much slower than 'regular' file copy. I have a lot of files. Over a million. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: tilde after .rev in file name
This long discussion may be of interest: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3707538?start=0tstart=0 (short version, as it were, is that this relates to a Lion 'versions' feature) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Mac Beach Ball Party (or welcome to hell, here's your mac)
I use MA because I want all settings and authorizations that are in the LIB to go with it. It's kind of *all or nothing* with MA. I'd rather keep all the system crap on a smaller SSD, but apple insists a lot of stuff including apps live on the boot drive. I have over 100 raw drives for big data that slip into several Newer Tech 'toasters' . http://www.newertech.com/products/voyagerq.php sqb On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Tim Jones tolis...@me.com wrote: I actually stopped using migration back around Tiger because of how painfully slow it was. I've found it quicker to reinstall my apps and just copy my documents over. All of my film and music stuff are on a SAS array, so they don't come into the process. Tim On May 14, 2012, at 11:49 AM, stephen barncard wrote: No, I would never do that. I know USB was made for keyboards and dongles and useless for big data movement. This was done on a new Mac Pro copying between internal drives. (there are 4 possible on a Pro). The installers and migrators appear to be much slower than 'regular' file copy. I have a lot of files. Over a million. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: tilde after .rev in file name
On 05/14/2012 09:52 PM, Timothy Miller wrote: Something bad happened to one of my stacks. I wasn't doing anything unusual. (Nor was the stack, or LiveCode. My wife might have been doing something unusual in the next room.) I did have a number of applications running at the same time, and I only have 2 GB of physical RAM. What on earth were you doing that needed so much RAM, apart from massive 3D-graphic rendering and/or movie-imports? Or, put it another way; have you got such a resource-hungry operating system that it leaves you with hardly any RAM for anything else? It might have been maxed. This could have caused a problem. Normally, I try to avoid running out of physical RAM. I closed, quit, tried to re-open, got a corrupted message. Some version of the stack got saved, missing half of its megabytes. I shut down, re-booted, noticed that the file name had a tilde after it. Didn't know why. Had I bumped the keyboard and added the tilde inadvertently? (Seemed unlikely.) I removed the tilde. The stack opens and runs okay now. I wrote a script that goes to each card, with screen and messages unlocked. It seems okay. Two questions: 1-How did the tilde get there? Did liveCode do it, the OS, or my elbow? As far as I know, when you save a stack, it saves as .rev~ and then replaces the previous one (ending .rev). This is very useful in the sort of situation you have described, when your system crashes or starts playing silly bu**ers, because you can recover your work from the .rev~ file. Just for fun try this: open a fairly large stack, and save it into an open window on your desktop (i.e. so you can see it), then modify the stack and resave it; and I think you will see, at one point, 2 stacks: 'XXX.rev' and 'XXX.rev~' during the save process. 2-Given the foregoing is it safe to continue using this stack and adding new content to it? (With some inconvenience, I could revert to an older backup of the same stack.) Consider the .rev~ file a backup and carry on. Thanks in advance, Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: CSV again.
I've just been checking out Alex's new csv parser and it is indeed much faster than the original, closer to 50% than 40% in my test case. However, I've also run into a Livecode issue while doing all this. This has come up before in the context of what LC thinks is a line, there's a similar issue/confusion/whatever with items. Let's say you have a string 1,2,3,4,5,6 - LC thinks there are 6 items in it, no problem Now change the string to 1,2,3,4,5,6, (note the trailing comma) - LC still thinks there are 6 items in that string. So to LC, 1,2,3,4,5,6 and 1,2,3,4,5,6, are equivalent in terms of the number of items in them. In the context of parsing csv files, they definitely are not. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net wrote: Some years ago, this list discussed the difficulties of parsing comma-separated-value file format; Richard Gaskin has a great article about it at http://www.fourthworld.com/**embassy/articles/csv-must-die.**htmlhttp://www.fourthworld.com/embassy/articles/csv-must-die.html Following that discussion, I came up with some code to parse CSV in Livecode which was significantly faster than the straightforwards methods (quoted in the above article). At the time, I put that speed gain down to two factors 1. a way of looking at the problem sideways that enables a different approach 2. a 'clever' use of split + array access Recently the topic came up again, and I looked at the code again; I now realize that in fact the speed gain came entirely from the first of those two factors, and using split + arrays was not helpful. Livecode's chunk handling is (in this case) faster than using arrays (my only excuse is that I was new to Livecode, and so I was using techniques I was familiar with from other languages). So I revised the code to use chunk handling rather than split+arrays, and the resulting code runs about 40% faster, with the added benefit of being slightly easier to read and understand. The only slightly mind-bending feature of the new code is the use of set the lineDelimiter to quote repeat for each line k in pData I find it hard to think about lines that aren't actually lines :-) So - for anyone who needs or wants more speed, here's the code function CSV3Tab pData,pcoldelim local tNuData -- contains tabbed copy of data local tReturnPlaceholder -- replaces cr in field data to avoid line -- breaks which would be misread as records; -- replaced later during dislay local tEscapedQuotePlaceholder -- used for keeping track of quotes -- in data local tInQuotedText -- flag set while reading data between quotes local tInsideQuoted, k -- put numtochar(11) into tReturnPlaceholder -- vertical tab as -- placeholder put numtochar(2) into tEscapedQuotePlaceholder -- used to simplify -- distinction between quotes in data and those -- used in delimiters -- if pcoldelim is empty then put comma into pcoldelim -- Normalize line endings: replace crlf with cr in pData -- Win to UNIX replace numtochar(13) with cr in pData -- Mac to UNIX -- -- Put placeholder in escaped quote (non-delimiter) chars: replace (\quote) with tEscapedQuotePlaceholder in pData replace quotequote with tEscapedQuotePlaceholder in pData -- put space before pData -- to avoid ambiguity of starting context put False into tInsideQuoted set the linedel to quote repeat for each line k in pData if (tInsideQuoted) then replace cr with tReturnPlaceholder in k put k after tNuData put False into tInsideQuoted else replace pcoldelim with numtochar(29) in k put k after tNuData put true into tInsideQuoted end if end repeat -- delete char 1 of tNuData -- remove the leading space replace tEscapedQuotePlaceholder with quote in tNuData return tNuData end CSV3Tab -- Alex. __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Problem with QT Player
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: David, This is a tricky question, because there are too many factors playing a role here. Think of the URL of the MP3 file, the Windows firewall, the visibility of the stack window, the rect of the player, the moment when the filename property of the player is set, the moment when the stack window is made visible, the time needed to load the MP3 file, etc. I think you need to go back to his machine, install LiveCode on it and debug your stack step by step. Just to be sure, what's the URL to the MP3 file? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 We will have room for new projects after 1 June. Contact me now and be first in line. Bump! ...overlooked, ignored or just no clues of what might be causing the problem? I always brush my teeth before contacting the list and today I added fresh cologne before sending this message. ;-) Thanks, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Mark, first of all, thanks for your reply! ...I cannot imagine why it would be tricky. I burned the file to a CD, carried it to him, he ran it directly from the CD while I was watching and it didn't work. We re-installed the latest QT and the player still would not work. I put the exact same CD into my own laptop, using the same wireless network and it does work without problems. Can't be an issue with the path in that situation, so I'm really more interested in verifying that there isn't some kind of QT external that must ship with the app. (Didn't see one in the list of externals) -- Best regards, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Problem with QT Player
Hi David, There is nothing special that you need to make QT work, except for QT itself (which you re-installed). For now, I bet it is the file path. Mac file paths are different from Windows file paths. For example: Mac: Volumes/CD-Label/folder/file.mp3 Win: D:/folder/file.mp3 -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 We will have room for new projects after 1 June. Contact me now and be first in line. On 14 mei 2012, at 22:07, David C. wrote: Mark, first of all, thanks for your reply! ...I cannot imagine why it would be tricky. I burned the file to a CD, carried it to him, he ran it directly from the CD while I was watching and it didn't work. We re-installed the latest QT and the player still would not work. I put the exact same CD into my own laptop, using the same wireless network and it does work without problems. Can't be an issue with the path in that situation, so I'm really more interested in verifying that there isn't some kind of QT external that must ship with the app. (Didn't see one in the list of externals) -- Best regards, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Problem with QT Player
What drive letter do you have your CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive set to? What letter is his drive set to? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: CSV again.
This has been discussed before. The last delimiter is not considered when parsing lines, items and words. The contents of the object are the only thing that is considered, so if nothing comes after the last delimiter, LC says, Nothing to see here. Moving along... That being said, item1,,item2 results in 3 items. Go figure. So the rule is empty words,items,lines are counted unless they are the last word,item,line. See? Simple. ;-) Bob On May 14, 2012, at 1:00 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: I've just been checking out Alex's new csv parser and it is indeed much faster than the original, closer to 50% than 40% in my test case. However, I've also run into a Livecode issue while doing all this. This has come up before in the context of what LC thinks is a line, there's a similar issue/confusion/whatever with items. Let's say you have a string 1,2,3,4,5,6 - LC thinks there are 6 items in it, no problem Now change the string to 1,2,3,4,5,6, (note the trailing comma) - LC still thinks there are 6 items in that string. So to LC, 1,2,3,4,5,6 and 1,2,3,4,5,6, are equivalent in terms of the number of items in them. In the context of parsing csv files, they definitely are not. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net wrote: Some years ago, this list discussed the difficulties of parsing comma-separated-value file format; Richard Gaskin has a great article about it at http://www.fourthworld.com/**embassy/articles/csv-must-die.**htmlhttp://www.fourthworld.com/embassy/articles/csv-must-die.html Following that discussion, I came up with some code to parse CSV in Livecode which was significantly faster than the straightforwards methods (quoted in the above article). At the time, I put that speed gain down to two factors 1. a way of looking at the problem sideways that enables a different approach 2. a 'clever' use of split + array access Recently the topic came up again, and I looked at the code again; I now realize that in fact the speed gain came entirely from the first of those two factors, and using split + arrays was not helpful. Livecode's chunk handling is (in this case) faster than using arrays (my only excuse is that I was new to Livecode, and so I was using techniques I was familiar with from other languages). So I revised the code to use chunk handling rather than split+arrays, and the resulting code runs about 40% faster, with the added benefit of being slightly easier to read and understand. The only slightly mind-bending feature of the new code is the use of set the lineDelimiter to quote repeat for each line k in pData I find it hard to think about lines that aren't actually lines :-) So - for anyone who needs or wants more speed, here's the code function CSV3Tab pData,pcoldelim local tNuData -- contains tabbed copy of data local tReturnPlaceholder -- replaces cr in field data to avoid line -- breaks which would be misread as records; -- replaced later during dislay local tEscapedQuotePlaceholder -- used for keeping track of quotes -- in data local tInQuotedText -- flag set while reading data between quotes local tInsideQuoted, k -- put numtochar(11) into tReturnPlaceholder -- vertical tab as -- placeholder put numtochar(2) into tEscapedQuotePlaceholder -- used to simplify -- distinction between quotes in data and those -- used in delimiters -- if pcoldelim is empty then put comma into pcoldelim -- Normalize line endings: replace crlf with cr in pData -- Win to UNIX replace numtochar(13) with cr in pData -- Mac to UNIX -- -- Put placeholder in escaped quote (non-delimiter) chars: replace (\quote) with tEscapedQuotePlaceholder in pData replace quotequote with tEscapedQuotePlaceholder in pData -- put space before pData -- to avoid ambiguity of starting context put False into tInsideQuoted set the linedel to quote repeat for each line k in pData if (tInsideQuoted) then replace cr with tReturnPlaceholder in k put k after tNuData put False into tInsideQuoted else replace pcoldelim with numtochar(29) in k put k after tNuData put true into tInsideQuoted end if end repeat -- delete char 1 of tNuData -- remove the leading space replace tEscapedQuotePlaceholder with quote in tNuData return tNuData end CSV3Tab -- Alex. __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this
Re: CSV again.
Yeah, the training empty item problem has been much discussed, and there are good reasons for keeping it as it is (even apart from the need to not break existing code). In similar circumstances, I've done replace (comma CR) with (comma space CR) in tVariable but in your case, even a space may not be exactly the same as totally empty. Could you replace the empty trailing item with a quoted item ? i.e. replace (comma CR) with (comma quote quote CR) in tVariable without any unpleasant side-effects ? -- Alex. On 14/05/2012 21:00, Peter Haworth wrote: I've just been checking out Alex's new csv parser and it is indeed much faster than the original, closer to 50% than 40% in my test case. However, I've also run into a Livecode issue while doing all this. This has come up before in the context of what LC thinks is a line, there's a similar issue/confusion/whatever with items. Let's say you have a string 1,2,3,4,5,6 - LC thinks there are 6 items in it, no problem Now change the string to 1,2,3,4,5,6, (note the trailing comma) - LC still thinks there are 6 items in that string. So to LC, 1,2,3,4,5,6 and 1,2,3,4,5,6, are equivalent in terms of the number of items in them. In the context of parsing csv files, they definitely are not. Pete lcSQL Softwarehttp://www.lcsql.com On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Alex Tweedlya...@tweedly.net wrote: Some years ago, this list discussed the difficulties of parsing comma-separated-value file format; Richard Gaskin has a great article about it at http://www.fourthworld.com/**embassy/articles/csv-must-die.**htmlhttp://www.fourthworld.com/embassy/articles/csv-must-die.html Following that discussion, I came up with some code to parse CSV in Livecode which was significantly faster than the straightforwards methods (quoted in the above article). At the time, I put that speed gain down to two factors 1. a way of looking at the problem sideways that enables a different approach 2. a 'clever' use of split + array access Recently the topic came up again, and I looked at the code again; I now realize that in fact the speed gain came entirely from the first of those two factors, and using split + arrays was not helpful. Livecode's chunk handling is (in this case) faster than using arrays (my only excuse is that I was new to Livecode, and so I was using techniques I was familiar with from other languages). So I revised the code to use chunk handling rather than split+arrays, and the resulting code runs about 40% faster, with the added benefit of being slightly easier to read and understand. The only slightly mind-bending feature of the new code is the use of set the lineDelimiter to quote repeat for each line k in pData I find it hard to think about lines that aren't actually lines :-) So - for anyone who needs or wants more speed, here's the code function CSV3Tab pData,pcoldelim local tNuData -- contains tabbed copy of data local tReturnPlaceholder -- replaces cr in field data to avoid line -- breaks which would be misread as records; -- replaced later during dislay local tEscapedQuotePlaceholder -- used for keeping track of quotes -- in data local tInQuotedText -- flag set while reading data between quotes local tInsideQuoted, k -- put numtochar(11) into tReturnPlaceholder -- vertical tab as -- placeholder put numtochar(2) into tEscapedQuotePlaceholder -- used to simplify -- distinction between quotes in data and those -- used in delimiters -- if pcoldelim is empty then put comma into pcoldelim -- Normalize line endings: replace crlf with cr in pData -- Win to UNIX replace numtochar(13) with cr in pData -- Mac to UNIX -- -- Put placeholder in escaped quote (non-delimiter) chars: replace (\quote) with tEscapedQuotePlaceholder in pData replace quotequote with tEscapedQuotePlaceholder in pData -- put space before pData -- to avoid ambiguity of starting context put False into tInsideQuoted set the linedel to quote repeat for each line k in pData if (tInsideQuoted) then replace cr with tReturnPlaceholder in k put k after tNuData put False into tInsideQuoted else replace pcoldelim with numtochar(29) in k put k after tNuData put true into tInsideQuoted end if end repeat -- delete char 1 of tNuData -- remove the leading space replace tEscapedQuotePlaceholder with quote in tNuData return tNuData end CSV3Tab -- Alex. __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode
Re: tilde after .rev in file name
On May 14, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Richmond wrote: On 05/14/2012 09:52 PM, Timothy Miller wrote: Something bad happened to one of my stacks. I wasn't doing anything unusual. (Nor was the stack, or LiveCode. My wife might have been doing something unusual in the next room.) I did have a number of applications running at the same time, and I only have 2 GB of physical RAM. What on earth were you doing that needed so much RAM, apart from massive 3D-graphic rendering and/or movie-imports? Or, put it another way; have you got such a resource-hungry operating system that it leaves you with hardly any RAM for anything else? You know how it goes. Plants vs. Zombies running in another window, Firefox with fifteen open tabs, a document open in Pages. That's 2 GB right there. Thanks for the tilde comments. Also thanks to Colin. I'm relieved. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Problem with QT Player
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: What drive letter do you have your CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive set to? What letter is his drive set to? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Hello Colin Drat! Sorry for the confusion, big dummy that I am. I should have mentioned that the MP3 file will *always* be located on a remote web server, whose IP address and URL isn't subject to change. Only the application itself is on the CD. -- Best regards, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Problem with QT Player
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Hi David, There is nothing special that you need to make QT work, except for QT itself (which you re-installed). For now, I bet it is the file path. Mac file paths are different from Windows file paths. For example: Mac: Volumes/CD-Label/folder/file.mp3 Win: D:/folder/file.mp3 -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 We will have room for new projects after 1 June. Contact me now and be first in line. On 14 mei 2012, at 22:07, David C. wrote: Mark, first of all, thanks for your reply! ...I cannot imagine why it would be tricky. I burned the file to a CD, carried it to him, he ran it directly from the CD while I was watching and it didn't work. We re-installed the latest QT and the player still would not work. I put the exact same CD into my own laptop, using the same wireless network and it does work without problems. Can't be an issue with the path in that situation, so I'm really more interested in verifying that there isn't some kind of QT external that must ship with the app. (Didn't see one in the list of externals) -- Best regards, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode I'm very sorry Mark, My reply to Colin about the path should have been addressed to you both. Best regards, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Problem with QT player
I had the same problem of the white window showing up when changing computers. It had to do with the file path. The User Manual discusses absolute versus relative paths (section 12.1.2). When the absolute path is used (in your Quicktime player inspector), everything works fine on your own computer, but this path is inadequate for another computer; you need to change the path to the relative path in your original stack. See if it works when you use the relative path, with the movie placed in the same folder as the stack. Stephen Goldberg, President Medmaster Inc. www.medmaster.net stgoldb...@aol.com On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 8:11 AM, David C. davidoco...@gmail.com wrote: Hey folks, I have a very simple application in which one aspect of the app uses the QT player, always pointing to the same named MP3 file on my server. Yesterday, I went to visit a friend and gave him ?a copy of the app to try out and every aspect of the application worked as intended except for the QT player. Where the controls would normally be located, there was nothing but a white empty space instead. Just to be sure there wasn't a problem with his QuickTime installation, I had him download and install the latest copy, yet we got the sames results. I tried the same application on my laptop (positioned right beside his and NOT being the machine I developed the application on) and it works flawlessly. The app was built on a Win 7 machine running LC 4.51, my friend's laptop is a Win 7 machine and the laptop I used to run the test beside his is a Win Vista machine. This is the first time I've used the Player control so I'm stumped. Is there some sort of QT external required or do you have any ideas what might be happening? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Problem with QT player
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 4:30 PM, stgoldb...@aol.com stgoldb...@aol.com wrote: I had the same problem of the white window showing up when changing computers. It had to do with the file path. The User Manual discusses absolute versus relative paths (section 12.1.2). When the absolute path is used (in your Quicktime player inspector), everything works fine on your own computer, but this path is inadequate for another computer; you need to change the path to the relative path in your original stack. See if it works when you use the relative path, with the movie placed in the same folder as the stack. Stephen Goldberg, President Medmaster Inc. www.medmaster.net stgoldb...@aol.com Hello Stephen, I just don't see how it can be a file path issue... as I mentioned earlier the MP3 file is hosted on a remote web server without the possibility of the URL changing. (I have control of the server) Ex: http://blahblah.com/mymp3file.mp3 Best regards, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: When is the CONTROL key not a control key?
Richmond richmondmathewson@... writes: If, like me, you lived in the parallel universe of second-hand goods you would realise that I have never owned a mattress that has had a label! try put the label of MattressOfRichmond into theTrash catch error put oh... never mind end try ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Problem with QT player
This has probably been asked, but did you try the url with the system browser? Probably should eliminate a content filter issue. You may be running on a profile that allows something that is blocked for other users. just a shot in the dark Bob On May 14, 2012, at 3:11 PM, David C. wrote: On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 4:30 PM, stgoldb...@aol.com stgoldb...@aol.com wrote: I had the same problem of the white window showing up when changing computers. It had to do with the file path. The User Manual discusses absolute versus relative paths (section 12.1.2). When the absolute path is used (in your Quicktime player inspector), everything works fine on your own computer, but this path is inadequate for another computer; you need to change the path to the relative path in your original stack. See if it works when you use the relative path, with the movie placed in the same folder as the stack. Stephen Goldberg, President Medmaster Inc. www.medmaster.net stgoldb...@aol.com Hello Stephen, I just don't see how it can be a file path issue... as I mentioned earlier the MP3 file is hosted on a remote web server without the possibility of the URL changing. (I have control of the server) Ex: http://blahblah.com/mymp3file.mp3 Best regards, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: When is the CONTROL key not a control key?
I would have done... don't even try put if (not exists pathToFile(theTrash)) is not true then else put the label of MattressOfRichmond into theTrash catch theError put Whut??!? end don't even try On May 14, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond richmondmathewson@... writes: If, like me, you lived in the parallel universe of second-hand goods you would realise that I have never owned a mattress that has had a label! try put the label of MattressOfRichmond into theTrash catch error put oh... never mind end try ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Windows Metro
Haven't seen much discussion of Windows vis-a-vis LC yet. Anyone in the loop on what we might expect to have to change in our apps? I've seen discussions on the sqlite list that the current version of the sqlite library won't run on metro. They have another version of the library in full test and ready to be released as things get closer to a release of Windows 8, which at least means LC will have to include a newer sqlite library. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows Metro
Hi Pete, I tested Installer Maker with Windows 8 and didn't find a reason to make any changes whatsoever, although wonder if there's a way to display a different type of icon in the colorized brick wall. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 We will have room for new projects after 1 June. Contact me now and be first in line. On 15 mei 2012, at 01:05, Peter Haworth wrote: Haven't seen much discussion of Windows vis-a-vis LC yet. Anyone in the loop on what we might expect to have to change in our apps? I've seen discussions on the sqlite list that the current version of the sqlite library won't run on metro. They have another version of the library in full test and ready to be released as things get closer to a release of Windows 8, which at least means LC will have to include a newer sqlite library. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows Metro
sigh just as I was getting used to Win 7! You know, the reason that Microsoft HAS to come out with a new OS every couple years, is that they have Software Assurance agreements that last 3 years, and people pay good money for this. If MS fails to deliver a major release in that time, the agreements are for nothing, and people would be PISSED. So Microsoft HAS to have a new major release within that time frame, even if it is a considerably worse OS or App than the previous one. Frankly, I LOVED Office 98 for Mac! Best version ever. Bob On May 14, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Haven't seen much discussion of Windows vis-a-vis LC yet. Anyone in the loop on what we might expect to have to change in our apps? I've seen discussions on the sqlite list that the current version of the sqlite library won't run on metro. They have another version of the library in full test and ready to be released as things get closer to a release of Windows 8, which at least means LC will have to include a newer sqlite library. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Problem with QT player
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: This has probably been asked, but did you try the url with the system browser? Probably should eliminate a content filter issue. You may be running on a profile that allows something that is blocked for other users. just a shot in the dark Bob On May 14, 2012, at 3:11 PM, David C. wrote: On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 4:30 PM, stgoldb...@aol.com stgoldb...@aol.com wrote: I had the same problem of the white window showing up when changing computers. It had to do with the file path. The User Manual discusses absolute versus relative paths (section 12.1.2). When the absolute path is used (in your Quicktime player inspector), everything works fine on your own computer, but this path is inadequate for another computer; you need to change the path to the relative path in your original stack. See if it works when you use the relative path, with the movie placed in the same folder as the stack. Stephen Goldberg, President Medmaster Inc. www.medmaster.net stgoldb...@aol.com Hello Stephen, I just don't see how it can be a file path issue... as I mentioned earlier the MP3 file is hosted on a remote web server without the possibility of the URL changing. (I have control of the server) Ex: http://blahblah.com/mymp3file.mp3 Best regards, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Hey Bob, I did not while my friend was testing the application in my presence, but it seems to be good no matter what computer or device that I try the URL on Hope you don't mind, but I've sent you a message off-list that you might want to look at. I understand and apologize if it's a bother. Best regards, David C. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Problem with QT player
On May 14, 2012, at 4:38 PM, David C. wrote: On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: This has probably been asked, but did you try the url with the system browser? Probably should eliminate a content filter issue. You may be running on a profile that allows something that is blocked for other users. just a shot in the dark Bob Hey Bob, I did not while my friend was testing the application in my presence, but it seems to be good no matter what computer or device that I try the URL on Hope you don't mind, but I've sent you a message off-list that you might want to look at. I understand and apologize if it's a bother. Best regards, David C. No problem at all. Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: tilde after .rev in file name
On 05/15/2012 12:08 AM, Timothy Miller wrote: On May 14, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Richmond wrote: On 05/14/2012 09:52 PM, Timothy Miller wrote: Something bad happened to one of my stacks. I wasn't doing anything unusual. (Nor was the stack, or LiveCode. My wife might have been doing something unusual in the next room.) I did have a number of applications running at the same time, and I only have 2 GB of physical RAM. What on earth were you doing that needed so much RAM, apart from massive 3D-graphic rendering and/or movie-imports? Or, put it another way; have you got such a resource-hungry operating system that it leaves you with hardly any RAM for anything else? You know how it goes. Plants vs. Zombies running in another window, Firefox with fifteen open tabs, a document open in Pages. Ah; you're running a Mac. That's 2 GB right there. Thanks for the tilde comments. Also thanks to Colin. I'm relieved. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
