Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

You're right, the results aren't predictable, as you've seen, since object-level effects are modified when compounded by an effect applied to a containing group. Color sometimes plays factor too. But realistically, there aren't that many results that are useful. Generally, I've found the structur

Re: Premium conference tickets going cheap

Hi Guys I'm closing this silent auction off on Sunday so if you wanted to try and get some cheap tickets then you probably need to put a bid in ASAP. I'll email the winner on Monday. Cheers Monte On 2 May 2014, at 10:46 am, Monte Goulding wrote: > Hi Folks > > Unfortunately my personal sit

Re: noob array question

Thank you for correcting me. I was merely looking into the example provided, and indeed proposed a simplified solution. And further I was ignoring that as any of the "standard" ways of representing data expand, there won't be a generalized way of sorting those out (for example vCARDS). And I d

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

Devin Asay wrote > [snip] > Yes, I agree that sometimes concepts are too complex to describe in a > short, neat label. But in the interface, perhaps the menu could show the > effect of the ink visually, or maybe there could be a help button that > would pop up a list explaining the inks in simple l

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

Yeah, I was aware of that, but never tried it. I’m afraid I’d get very confused. I should be brave. Also, I’m greedy and want both. I’ll try what you suggest and see if that is too greedy. Dar Dar Scott Consulting d...@swcp.com Helping LiveCode programers with Externals and Libraries On Ma

Re: Community Contributions (was IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil))

Thanks for your considered and thorough answer, Richard. As a footnote, I posted another little plugin I made. I've been working with HTML a lot, and the itch I've been scratching with it is having to switch between HTMLtext and styledText, and sometimes look up LC-legal HTML entities. The lcHT

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

On 5/15/14, 10:35 AM, Devin Asay wrote: The "locked" of the properties palette for each object is separate and persistent. From what I can see, cards and stacks selected from the app browser will open a locked inspector (anything in the left-hand pane.) Objects on a card (anything in the righ

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

On 5/15/14, 12:59 PM, Dar Scott wrote: It is awkward to move off the keyboard while editing a script to hover over a control in the Object Inspector waiting for it to take so I can see the name of the property. You can select go the the General pane in preferences, look for "Property labels ar

Re: cumbersome pt and rect operations

Devin: Tnx for the hint. But, I am doing a lot of adding points and putting various vertices of rects at specific points. and it occurred to me that just being able to add points to get the resultant point and that adding a point to a rect could move the rect by the amount of the point, and havi

Re: Community Contributions (was IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil))

Charles E Buchwald wrote: > Mike, I did follow the whole "[Off] Cool Plugins thread". I was a > bit disappointed that it kind of petered out after several people > expressed an interest in helping. I wouldn't be too disappointed. Things ebb and flow; we all have many things to do. But two ver

Re: [TIC: Tongue in Cheek] IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

On 16 May 2014, at 8:34 am, Richard Gaskin wrote: > On another note, as I promised you last week I did ask Ben if RunRev planned > on open-sourcing the On-Rev real-time debugger. He's not sure and will check > with Kevin, but he did confirm my hunch that it requires specific sockets > open on

Re: [TIC: Tongue in Cheek] Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

Well, always good to anticipate future-proofing. :) On another note, as I promised you last week I did ask Ben if RunRev planned on open-sourcing the On-Rev real-time debugger. He's not sure and will check with Kevin, but he did confirm my hunch that it requires specific sockets open on the s

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

Mike Kerner wrote: This is similar to a discussion I had earlier this week about fixing the issues I found in DataGrid. I think I missed something. Did you submit fixes with those? If you did, please add a "FIX:" prefix to the report titled so they can be flagged. However, what do we do

[TIC: Tongue in Cheek] Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

On 15/05/2014 21:29, Richard Gaskin wrote: As an example of this workflow in action, we have a simple fix here: Since the code change is comprised of adding only five characters to a comparison string and can be easily seen in the Message Box,

Community Contributions (was IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil))

Mike, I did follow the whole "[Off] Cool Plugins thread". I was a bit disappointed that it kind of petered out after several people expressed an interest in helping. I did propose that the forum for plugins and extensions be split in two. My thought being that developing either is very different

Community Contributions (was IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil))

Mike, I did follow the whole "[Off] Cool Plugins thread". I was a bit disappointed that it kind of petered out after several people expressed an interest in helping. I did propose that the forum for plugins and extensions be split in two. My thought being that developing either is very different

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

This is similar to a discussion I had earlier this week about fixing the issues I found in DataGrid. However, what do we do about OnRev, especially if we are going to work on it as a group of sorts? On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Charles wrote: > > OK, so what do we ha

Re: Finding stacks on Mobile

Thanks Ralph. My fundamental problem was that I was not using the “Copy Files” tab. I incorrectly assumed that since they were all listed on the “Stacks” tab they would have been copied. This does not appear to be the case. Regards, Mike On May 12, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Ralph DiMola wro

Re: cumbersome pt and rect operations

On May 15, 2014, at 2:28 PM, William Prothero wrote: > Folks: > I’m doing a lot of moving objects around on the screen. I find that it’s > super cumbersome and generates a load of code. It would be really nice if > there could be more compact operations. > > For example: > put pt1 + pt2 into

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

Charles wrote: > OK, so what do we have to do, as a community of users, to get > RevOnline working again? Fix it. :) My Community meeting this morning with Ben focused almost exclusively on RevOnline. It's true that LiveCode is inherently problematic to attempt to integrate into tools like

cumbersome pt and rect operations

Folks: I’m doing a lot of moving objects around on the screen. I find that it’s super cumbersome and generates a load of code. It would be really nice if there could be more compact operations. For example: put pt1 + pt2 into sumofPts 2,3 + 5,6 would result in 7,9 or put rect1 + pt1 into aRect

Re: Dropbox File Path via Shell Or Similar?

wow. I ignore a thread and this happens, lol. On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 9:45 PM, Stephen MacLean wrote: > Forget I wrote that... after seeing the other responses. > > Best, > > Steve > > On May 14, 2014, at 9:41 PM, Stephen MacLean > wrote: > > > Hi Scott, > > > > If you just want to access the

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

Look at the [Off] Cool Plugins thread. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good."

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

Richard is heading up this effort. It is being discussed in another thread. Volunteers have been...volunteering. On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Charles E Buchwald wrote: > OK, so what do we have to do, as a community of users, to get RevOnline > working again? This seems like a good way to e

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

OK, so what do we have to do, as a community of users, to get RevOnline working again? This seems like a good way to encourage and coordinate community participation. Particularly so because we are talking about LC code, outside of the GitHub ecosystem, and outside of the IDE. And because it's b

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

+1 On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Dar Scott wrote: > This one might be just me. > > It is awkward to move off the keyboard while editing a script to hover > over a control in the Object Inspector waiting for it to take so I can see > the name of the property. > > On May 15, 2014, at 8:42 AM,

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

I’d call this one more than an oddity. This is a bug. It goes along with the one about how no window can be higher than the icon bar even if it is on a display placed high and the bar is not even on that display. Dar On May 15, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > And another: > If you

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

Most of the LC-coded portions of LC are not part of GitHub. This also includes dataGrids, which have several issues I discovered earlier in the week. On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Devin Asay wrote: > > On May 15, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Charles E Buchwald > wrote: > > > Mike, this is the part t

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

Charles, I was not aware of your add-on. Your add-on, like numerous other add-ons, have not made it to the collective consciousness, yet. That's exactly why we're talking about taking the revOnline project broader and trying to get it organized and improved, so that it becomes a catalog of everyt

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

It's persistent between launches of LC. The case in question is dealing with the dataGrid, because there are issues with the DG, which I detailed in a bug report that I filed this week, in particular related to resizing a header. Because a DG is an amalgam of numerous LC objects, issues can quick

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

This one might be just me. It is awkward to move off the keyboard while editing a script to hover over a control in the Object Inspector waiting for it to take so I can see the name of the property. On May 15, 2014, at 8:42 AM, Devin Asay wrote: > Thanks for the responses folks. Keep them com

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

On 15/05/14 17:42, Devin Asay wrote: Thanks for the responses folks. Keep them coming, and I'll post a summary. Here's another one of mine: Names of blendLevel inks: Whaaa? What do those things even mean? Yes: a set of names that had some sort of connexion with the effects produced would ma

iTunes connect/app store issue

I have received the following rejection notice from Apple for my Football Statistics application. The problem is that I neither have any contacts features or call any contacts functions or APIs in this application. Is there some flag I am missing in the build process that is adding a contacts API

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

On May 15, 2014, at 10:00 AM, "J. Landman Gay" wrote: > There's a small view of two overlapping images at the bottom of the inspector > that shows what the ink will do. Well, I'll be d**ned. How many times have I looked at that, and it never registered until now. What a funny thing the hum

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

On May 15, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Charles E Buchwald wrote: > Mike, this is the part that I don't get about open source... yet. I guess we > don't have the community structures to handle it. > > I mean, I've made that (free) plugin to handle this specific problem. > "lcMover" moves stacks/windows

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

There's a small view of two overlapping images at the bottom of the inspector that shows what the ink will do. The names of the inks are the same as the ones that Photoshop and many other image processing programs use, so that's a tough call. Specialists might complain if they are changed.

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

Mike, this is the part that I don't get about open source... yet. I guess we don't have the community structures to handle it. I mean, I've made that (free) plugin to handle this specific problem. "lcMover" moves stacks/windows around, whether they are off-screen or not. I even added an option

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

On May 15, 2014, at 9:16 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > Whoops! Wait, a second, here's another: > The "locked" of the properties palette for each object is separate and > persistent. This is really great when you are working with a component or > object that is installed by another developer, and w

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

Devin Asay wrote: Thanks for the responses folks. Keep them coming, and I'll post a summary. It may be helpful if you'd post your summary to the IDE Contributors Forum: Here's another one of mine: Names of blendLevel inks: Whaaa? What do those t

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

On May 15, 2014, at 9:12 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Devin Asay wrote: >> Thanks for the responses folks. Keep them coming, and I'll post a summary. > > It may be helpful if you'd post your summary to the IDE Contributors Forum: > > > >> Here's a

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

Whoops! Wait, a second, here's another: The "locked" of the properties palette for each object is separate and persistent. This is really great when you are working with a component or object that is installed by another developer, and want to look at two of the developer's objects side-by-side a

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

And another: If you have your lappie hooked to two monitors at work, and you use both monitors, and then you go home, guess what happens to windows, especially on a Mac, where you are using multiple workspaces? That's right, the windows, even the LC development windows, are off-screen somewhere at

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

Try resizing something, or using the alignment tools. I just ran into this, again, this week, when I was trying to fix a vertical line. The line is too short, so I changed the length. The line lengthened, UPWARD. So I then changed the top of the line, thinking that would help me except the bott

Re: IDE oddities (was Re: Error Messages Are Evil)

Thanks for the responses folks. Keep them coming, and I'll post a summary. Here's another one of mine: Names of blendLevel inks: Whaaa? What do those things even mean? Devin Devin Asay Office of Digital Humanities Brigham Young University ___ use-li

Re: noob array question

On 15 May 2014, at 8:47 pm, Pyyhtiä Christer wrote: > Just set itemDelimiter to "}” to extract the JSON elements, strip "{" > -characters from those, look what you need to use as the next itemDelimiter > and do it again. Then move to array. > > It probably takes less that 10 lines of code. Th

Re: [ANN] Facebook Lib

Just reporting that I have had success with Andre's Facebook Lib in a commercial product. Got it working on the Window's side as well, which was initially a bit more challenging. And we received the necessary approvals from Facebook.. Thanks, Andre! Richard Miller On 5/3/14, 8:58 PM, Andre

Re: noob array question

It is very easy with pure LiveCode. Just set itemDelimiter to "}” to extract the JSON elements, strip "{" -characters from those, look what you need to use as the next itemDelimiter and do it again. Then move to array. It probably takes less that 10 lines of code. This is the way I have done i

Re: Unicode Really Does Just Work in LiveCode

This is exciting news: On 15 May 2014, at 7:25 pm, Fraser Gordon wrote: > The hint I wrote shows how to do proper case conversions (i.e don't use > toupper and tolower - they don't take language-specific rules into account). > We do expect to add these into the engine core at some point but we

Re: Unicode Really Does Just Work in LiveCode

On 15 May 2014, at 07:01, Peter W A Wood wrote: > I've come up with a set of tests to use to compare different languages > Unicode capabilities. I call them the "Unicode Out Of The Box Tests". At the > moment Apple's Cocoa & Objective-C is the top scorer with 15 out of 15. > Livecode scores 1