DP13 breaks GLX framework

[jameshale]

Hopefully there are people out there who have a more intimate knowledge of
the GLX framework than I. 
Opening a GLX based app with DP13 hits a snag in the last handler just
before the launcher is dismissed.
Consequently no preopenwindow handler makes it to the main app stack and
necessary set up routines do not happen.
All versions of LC8 up until this point have proceeded without incident.
Something has changed in DP13.



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Re: Release: 8.0 DP 13

[Mark Wieder]

On 01/13/2016 07:31 PM, Alejandro Tejada wrote:

How could I uninstall a previous version
of LC8 under Ubuntu 14.04?


Depends on which version and whether you installed just for you or for 
all users.


If you installed for all users:
for rc12 then look in /opt/livecode
navigate into the version's directory
32-bit:
./setup.x86 uninstall
64-bit:
./setup.x86_64 uninstall

for previous versions look in /opt/runrev
and run ./.setup.x86 uninstall
you may have to chmod it first.

If you installed just for you:
look in your home directory, then do the above

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Re: Release: 8.0 DP 13

[Alejandro Tejada]

How could I uninstall a previous version 
of LC8 under Ubuntu 14.04?

Thanks in advance!

Al



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Re: Getting Finder results into LiveCode

[Kay C Lan]

On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 12:44 AM, Peter M. Brigham  wrote:
>
>
> > Plus a whole lot more.
>
> for instance, summon Alfred, type ">"  then enter a shell command, and it
> sends the command to Terminal. \


Oh, now you're talking! I love the way I can look up a Dictionary
definition or do a quick arithmetic calculation in Spotlight. Use it
constantly. Spotlight can't send Terminal commands, and that is a feature I
could get use to very quickly!

Of course in Terminal you can carry out a Spotlight style search by using
mdfind with the big difference that instead of being limited to the top 20
or 30 most relevant hits, you get everything. And if you want file paths,
you've got them.

mdfind livecode

mdfind -count livecode
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Re: Getting Finder results into LiveCode

[Kay C Lan]

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 8:55 PM, Francis Nugent Dixon 
wrote:

> I love
> programming. Whether I get apps which work is not a prerequisite !!
>
> Brilliant! Made me smile from ear to ear... it's going to be a good day:-)
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Re: Getting Finder results into LiveCode

[Peter M. Brigham]

On Jan 13, 2016, at 12:21 AM, Kay C Lan wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 4:39 AM, Peter M. Brigham  wrote:
> 
>> I use a utility called Alfred on my Mac...
> 
> 
> 
>> It allows you to search for files whose name contain , and also
>> allows you to search for files whose contents contain .
> 
> 
> This is the default way Spotlight works, it searches both for name or
> content. If you want to restrict to content only:
> 
> intext:livecode revolution metacard
> 
> This will find any document that contains all three words
> 
> livecode OR revolution OR metacard
> 
> This will find any file whose name or content contains either of the words
> listed.
> 
> I only get one hit for the first seach: LiveCode Mobile Development
> Beginner's Guide [eBook].pdf
> 
> 
>> Plus it allows hotkeys for launching apps or files,
> 
> 
> What is your hotkey for Skype and Safari? I type cmd+spacebar s return and
> Skype is up and running. I type cmd+spacebar sa return and Safari starts.
> cmd+s is already taken so you can't be saving too many key strokes ;-)
> 
> Once any file is found and hilited in Spotlight pressing Return will open
> it in it's default Application.

With Alfred, you can assign any document or app any free hotkey. I use 
control-option- for all launching shortcuts, and I have a shortcut for all 
my frequently used LC stacks, as well as for a few other documents.

> and a clipboard with memory -- see a list of the past 40 or 50 pieces of
>> text you've copied and insert the one you want with a keypress.
> 
> 
> Yes that is a very very useful feature.

I use it all the time

> Plus a whole lot more.

for instance, summon Alfred, type ">"  then enter a shell command, and it sends 
the command to Terminal. Control iTunes as well.

> To learn more about Alfred I Googled Alfred vs Spotlight and came up with
> this website:
> 
> https://www.quora
> .com/Will-the-new-Spotlight-in-OS-X-Yosemite-replace-Alfred?share=1
> 
> Which had this rather interesting list:
> 
> These are some of the extra things Alfred has:
>>Alfred can close apps with the Quit  command.
>>Alfred can find a file and reveal it in finder with Find 
>> command.
>>Alfred can search Google, Yahoo, Wikipedia.
>>Alfred can set limit for the search.
>>Alfred can open URLs in browser.
>>Alfred can Shutdown, Sleep and Restart a Mac.
> 
> 
> I use cmd+q to Quit an app. Seems a lot quicker than typing: quit appname

Yeah, never use this, seems superfluous

> If a folder or file is hilited in Spotlight cmd+r will open a new finder
> window and reveal it's locations, no special Find command required.
> 
> Spotlight only searches Google and Wikipedia, not Yahoo, or DuckDuckGo
> which is my browser's default search engine.
> 
> Not sure what 'limit for the search' means. If I want just apps, or just
> folders, or just movies I can specify that.
> 
> If a URL exists in your bookmarks or history or an entry you've placed into
> a search engine, then typing this into Spotlight will get hits under the
> 'Web Page' category and clicking on any of these will open the page in your
> default web browser. If it's an unknown web address I'm not sure why you'd
> be typing it into Alfred and not simply typing it into your browser?
> 
> No, Spotlight can't Shutdown, Restart or Sleep my Mac.
> 
>> I like the user interface
> 
> And really that's all that matters. If you are more productive because
> it's interface suits you better then that's all that counts. I mention
> these things not in an attempt to dissuade you from doing what you are
> doing but for others who may not appreciate what Spotlight can do for them;
> or have been given incorrect information as to what Spotlight can do.

Right. It's all about what comes naturally to the individual user.

Actually, if Alfred didn't exist, I'd do fine with just using Spotlight, except 
for the clipboard history function, which I use constantly, eg, copying 
multiple LC fields, then going to another card/stack and pasting them one by 
one -- no constant back-and-forth. And I like the launching shortcuts.

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Re: Setting up for android development on OS X 10.10 - help needed

[Terry Judd]

OK - so I did manage to find and install a copy of Java 6 (I deleted the
existing newer version of Java and then did a default install) and now the
JDK path bit in the mobile support pane of
the LC preferences window has a value in it but everything else remains
the same. Even the simplest app crashes on the Android simulator.

I¹m also trying to get a real device to show up under the development>test
target menu without success. I have a couple of Samsung phones (S2 and S4
mini) both with usb debugging enabled but neither shows up in the test
target menu when connected. Any ideas?

Terry...

On 14/01/2016 11:45 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Terry Judd²
 wrote:

>Hi all ­ after a long break from developing for Android I need to get up
>and running again but seem to be getting nowhere. I have all the Android
>sdk stuff installed and updated and installed Java but when I go to
>configure things in LC it accepts the location of the Android SDK root
>folder but the JDK path stays empty. I can build an app ok but even the
>simplest one will immediately crash (on the simulator ­ I¹m still trying
>to get my device to show up on the target list).
>
>A search of the forums suggests that the empty path thing this is a known
>issue( from some months ago) and a post (reply) from Sebastian in late
>November last year suggested that you need to install the now deprecated
>Java 6 to undertake Android development in LC. I¹d try that if I could
>only find somewhere to download Java 6 from!
>
>Does anyone have this stuff working on OS X 10.10 (or later) and care to
>provide some tips on how they got it to work?
>
>Best regards,
>
>TerryŠ
>
>Terry Judd  | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education
>Department of Medical
>Education
>The University of Melbourne
>M: 0435 961 594  |  E:
>terry.j...@unimelb.edu.au
>Publicationsen>
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Setting up for android development on OS X 10.10 - help needed

[Terry Judd]

Hi all – after a long break from developing for Android I need to get up and 
running again but seem to be getting nowhere. I have all the Android sdk stuff 
installed and updated and installed Java but when I go to configure things in 
LC it accepts the location of the Android SDK root folder but the JDK path 
stays empty. I can build an app ok but even the simplest one will immediately 
crash (on the simulator – I’m still trying to get my device to show up on the 
target list).

A search of the forums suggests that the empty path thing this is a known 
issue( from some months ago) and a post (reply) from Sebastian in late November 
last year suggested that you need to install the now deprecated Java 6 to 
undertake Android development in LC. I’d try that if I could only find 
somewhere to download Java 6 from!

Does anyone have this stuff working on OS X 10.10 (or later) and care to 
provide some tips on how they got it to work?

Best regards,

Terry…

Terry Judd  | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education
Department of Medical 
Education
The University of Melbourne
M: 0435 961 594  |  E: terry.j...@unimelb.edu.au
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Re: Release: 8.0 DP 13

[Richmond]

Over 'here' on Xubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit the Dictionary looks far, far 
better,

but sadly the search facility doesn't let one enter text.

Richmond.

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Re: Getting the clicktext from a browser control

[J. Landman Gay]

On 1/13/2016 7:39 AM, Colin Holgate wrote:

The times that BrowserBeforeNavigate doesn’t get sent, is a
BrowserBeforeNavigateFrame sent instead?


There are no frames, so no. The browserBeforeNavigate only gets sent 
when the URL changes, and the links in the page do not always change 
URLs, (they are basically reference IDs, mainly footnotes) so that's why.


If the footnote is contained in the existing browser content then the 
link navigates but I can't find out about it until after the navigation 
completes. If the link points to another set of content that isn't 
loaded yet, nothing happens and I still don't find out about it until 
browserNavigateComplete is sent. I want to know what link was clicked so 
I can handle it regardless of the intended link destination. I don't see 
any way to do that.


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Re: Figuring out if something is on the current screen, or getting the current screen rect

[Dr. Hawkins]

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Bob Sneidar 
wrote:

> There is no notion of a current screen in the OS itself. Do you mean which
> screen the frontmost window is in? And what do you mean by "In"? A window
> can overlap two or more screens. Typically if you double click the title
> bar of a window, the window will maximize on the screen the mouse is in.


I'm trying to pop another stack with selections over an object from that
object's handler.  My concern is the popup going over the top or bottom.
 (There's a secondary left/right issue, too, but the top/bottom is the big
issue))

So something like

on mouseOver

lock screen

palette stack "choose" at the screenLoc of me

do some magic to keep it on screen

end mouseOver



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Release: 8.0 DP 13

[Ali Lloyd]

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0 DP 13.

Warning: this is not a stable release. Please ensure you back up your
stacks before testing them.

*IMPORTANT*: It is especially vital that you back up your stacks before
testing them in 8.0 DP 13, as there has been a change to the save
command. The IDE has been updated to accommodate this change, but we
strongly recommend making back-ups in case there is unforeseen data loss.

*Release contents*

*More accurate measurements when laying out text*
The measurements used by LiveCode to lay out text (the text "metrics") in
versions prior to 8 were optimised for low-resolution bitmap fonts. In
LiveCode 8, more accurate measurements are now being used by the field
and other controls.

*Improvements for saving in old stack file formats*
It is now possible to specify a version of the stack file format to be
used when saving directly with the save command, by using the
save STACK with format VERSION
form of the command.

*Dictionary data build location*
Previously the IDE would try to build dictionary data internally, which
was a problem for the installed application on Windows and Linux (as the
location was not necessarily writable). This also enables navigation to
specific docs entries on platforms where the browser widget is not
available.

*LCB array literals*
It is now possible to use array constants and array expressions in
LiveCode Builder programs.

*35 bug fixes*

*Known Issues*
- Cef Browser (and therefore the dictionary and browser widget) does not
currently work on 32-bit Linux
- HTML 5 standalones do not currently function when they contain extensions
with dependencies.

*Getting the release*
You can get the release at http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/

LiveCode 8 is still in development so we’d love to hear any
feedback you have on it. There are a number of features that we’d like to
implement but aren’t ready yet and the existing features are subject to
change during development - we can’t guarantee that extensions written in
Developer Previews will continue to work the same way in later versions.

Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at
http://quality.livecode.com/

We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93

The LiveCode Team
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RE: mobile acceleration/rotation

[Jim MacConnell]

Short answer: Gravity.
The device can't measure actual acceleration. It measures the forces on
sensors in 3 axes. One of those axes will feel force from gravity. That's
the 1.
Jim 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Rubinstein [mailto:benr...@cogapp.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 5:08 AM
To: Use LiveCode
Subject: mobile acceleration/rotation

H - I've just tried reading the acceleration and rotation sensors.  I
admit to finding the whole business confusing, but it seems to me that the
data accompanying the accelerationChanged message represents the static
orientation of the device.

At first I thought that the "rotation" and "acceleration" had been swapped -
but then I realised it wasn't "rotation" but "rotation rate".

At any rate, the readings I'm getting for acceleration, with my phone lying
flat on the desk, have x and y approximately 0, and z at -1.  If I bring the
phone upright on its short end, y shifts to -1 and z to 0.  If instead I
bring it upright to lie on its left edge, x goes to -1 and y and z to 0; if
I bring it upright on the right edge, x goes to 1, y and z to 0.

These seem perfectly reasonable things to me, i.e. they seem to represent
the state of rotation around the various axes; but I don't understand how
they relate to acceleration.

Can someone explain this to me?

Many thanks,

Ben

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LC7.1 Screen update problem on iOS?

[Alan Stenhouse]

Hi all

Running my current app using LC 7.1 on iOS Simulator 8.2 for iPad - I get 
problems with the screen not updating while it runs properly under LC 7.0.6 on 
the same simulator. Even just simple icon highlights don't actually appear on 
touch. Weird.

Had anyone else noticed screen update problems using LC 7.1 or later?

Or have I missed posts about this issue?

cheers

Alan
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Re: Getting the clicktext from a browser control

[Colin Holgate]

The times that BrowserBeforeNavigate doesn’t get sent, is a 
BrowserBeforeNavigateFrame sent instead?


> On Jan 13, 2016, at 1:13 AM, J. Landman Gay  wrote:
> 
> How are people dealing with the inability to know when a user clicks a link 
> in a (desktop) browser object? The only message I get reliably is 
> "browserNavigateComplete". What if I want to know what's clicked before that?
> 
> BrowserClick only works on Windows, so I can't use that. 
> BrowserBeforeNavigate doesn't always get sent.
> 
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Re: mobilepick more than one option at a time without more than one pickwheel?

[Klaus major-k]

HI Dixie,

> Am 13.01.2016 um 11:21 schrieb John Dixon :
> 
>>> Am 12.01.2016 um 18:49 schrieb Klaus major-k :
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> is there a way to let the user pick more than one option in ONE mobilepick 
>>> xyz?
>>> I do not want to show two  or more pickwheels! If yes, how can this be done?
>>> Or do I need to „roll my own“ with a listfield or a group or something?
>>> Like providing a list of weekday names and the user can seldct more than 
>>> one day at once.
> 
>> Klaus
> 
> Klaus...
> 
> I seem to remember that Bernd Niggeman wrote a 'pickwheel' when mobile first 
> came to liveCode.
> I don't remember too much of the detail now, but do remember that it was 
> impressive..
> 
> It would be worth talking to him..:-)

Yes, I know these stacks, but they also only allowed to pick ONE option, if I 
remember correctly.
My question was, if there is some „mobile control" that does what I need ;-)

> Dixie

Best

Klaus

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mobile acceleration/rotation

[Ben Rubinstein]

H - I've just tried reading the acceleration and rotation sensors.  I 
admit to finding the whole business confusing, but it seems to me that the 
data accompanying the accelerationChanged message represents the static 
orientation of the device.


At first I thought that the "rotation" and "acceleration" had been swapped - 
but then I realised it wasn't "rotation" but "rotation rate".


At any rate, the readings I'm getting for acceleration, with my phone lying 
flat on the desk, have x and y approximately 0, and z at -1.  If I bring the 
phone upright on its short end, y shifts to -1 and z to 0.  If instead I bring 
it upright to lie on its left edge, x goes to -1 and y and z to 0; if I bring 
it upright on the right edge, x goes to 1, y and z to 0.


These seem perfectly reasonable things to me, i.e. they seem to represent the 
state of rotation around the various axes; but I don't understand how they 
relate to acceleration.


Can someone explain this to me?

Many thanks,

Ben

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Re: Getting Finder results into LiveCode

[Francis Nugent Dixon]

Hi from Beautiful Brittany,

Thanks to all for your responses, especially to Martin Koob and
Klaus Major. I have all I need. I had tinkered with the idea of using
AppleScript, but apart from simple scripts, I find AppleScript
excessively impenetrable, even after 50 years of programming
in many languages .

To clarify my apparent disorder in having multiple copies of some files,
iTunes Libraries, iPhoto Libraries, , etc., on FIVE different Macs. I will
explain why I needed precise responses to my questions.
I move around my multiple copies, on external disks, from my master
data bases on Computer 1, to my other computers for use by others.
Every so often, I mount all my external disks onto Computer 1, and now
need to know which data base copies are out of sync, sync them, and
then put them back in circulation on the other computers. When my kids
and grandkids come to visit, they can access mirror copies of my master
computer (and screw them up if they want), not impacting my data bases.

But I also want to access Finder information for other motives, and so I
used this specific example to define my problem. In this instance, whether
I will have problems getting the info from all of my external disks, and then
syncing all the file copies, is an obstacle I will overcome when I get to it.

And because I program every waking day, and often look for complicated
solutions to strange requirements, often trashing results which do not
do what I want, is not a problem. I program in LiveCode because I love
programming. Whether I get apps which work is not a prerequisite !!

Thanks again !

-Francis

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RE: mobilepick more than one option at a time without more than one pickwheel?

[John Dixon]

> > Am 12.01.2016 um 18:49 schrieb Klaus major-k :
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > is there a way to let the user pick more than one option in ONE mobilepick 
> > xyz?
> > I do not want to show two  or more pickwheels! If yes, how can this be done?
> > Or do I need to „roll my own“ with a listfield or a group or something?
> > 
> > Like providing a list of weekday names and the user can seldct more than 
> > one day at once.
> > 

> Klaus

Klaus...

I seem to remember that Bernd Niggeman wrote a 'pickwheel' when mobile first 
came to liveCode.
I don't remember too much of the detail now, but do remember that it was 
impressive..

It would be worth talking to him..:-)

Dixie
  
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Re: mobilepick more than one option at a time without more than one pickwheel?

[Klaus major-k]

> Am 12.01.2016 um 18:49 schrieb Klaus major-k :
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> is there a way to let the user pick more than one option in ONE mobilepick 
> xyz?
> I do not want to show two  or more pickwheels! If yes, how can this be done?
> Or do I need to „roll my own“ with a listfield or a group or something?
> 
> Like providing a list of weekday names and the user can seldct more than one 
> day at once.
> 
> Thanks in advance!

Smart ideas anyone?


Best

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