Re: Export snapshot - is it usable on LiveCode web apps?

[Jimmieson, Phil via use-livecode]

Hi folks,
Thanks to everyone who responded to my question. Where else would you get such 
support? And in particular, with what other development system would you get 
one of the actual architects of the system, responding to your question? 
LIveCode is something else.

OK, I have updated my screenshot code. I’m still getting a javascript 
exception, but it looks like it’s now caused by something else that web doesn’t 
like. Something that works ok on iPad. More investigation is required...


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On 2024-08-08 10:22, Jimmieson, Phil via use-livecode wrote:
Hi folks,
I’m experimenting with converting one of my LiveCode iPad Apps into a web 
version, to see how well it works, but there’s an issue that seems to be a 
deal-breaker. My iPad app takes a screenshot of the LiveCode stack when the 
user navigates away from the main card, so that the image can be used elsewhere 
in the app. This works fine on iPad, but I noticed that the web version of the 
app generates a javascript exception when I try to leave the main card. On 
checking the dictionary, I noticed that the export snapshot command is not 
listed as being supported on web. Is this correct? If so, is there an 
alternative that will work for web?

So 'export snapshot from screen' is not supported - this is the form which 
takes the pixel data from the actual (composited) screen buffer.

However, there is an alternate form which is entirely internal to the engine:

  export snapshot from [ rect  of ] 

To use the internal form for a card you can do:

  export snapshot from this card

Or if you want a portion of the card:

  export snapshot from rect 0,0,100,100 of this card

Further there is an `at size ,` clause which allows you to 
specify the size you want the resulting image.

The difference here is that the internal form replicates the same process that 
the engine uses to render objects to a window - it renders the given rectangle 
of the object into a rect of the specified size (or the size of the rect/object 
if 'at size' is not specified).

In contrast, the 'external' form has to ask the OS for the given rectangle of 
the actual screen's framebuffer.

Hope this helps,

Mark.

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Export snapshot - is it usable on LiveCode web apps?

[Jimmieson, Phil via use-livecode]

Hi folks,
I’m experimenting with converting one of my LiveCode iPad Apps into a web 
version, to see how well it works, but there’s an issue that seems to be a 
deal-breaker. My iPad app takes a screenshot of the LiveCode stack when the 
user navigates away from the main card, so that the image can be used elsewhere 
in the app. This works fine on iPad, but I noticed that the web version of the 
app generates a javascript exception when I try to leave the main card. On 
checking the dictionary, I noticed that the export snapshot command is not 
listed as being supported on web. Is this correct? If so, is there an 
alternative that will work for web?

Thanks

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Re: How to loop through stacks with same name?

[Jimmieson, Phil via use-livecode]

In 2017 I reported a bug related to opening a series of stack files all with 
the same name. The problem was that I could not get the old stacks to go away 
and eventually I would end up in the “duplicate stack name” dialog infinite 
loop.

https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19075

Panos suggested putting a lock messages / unlock messages set of statements 
around the code that opened and accessed each stack and that did seem to fix 
the problem I was having (though not the bug in LiveCode).

Maybe you could do something similar here?

Another thing I considered was to rename each old stack with a unique suffix so 
that the names would no longer clash, even if the stack ended up staying in 
memory for longer than necessary…


> On 6 Apr 2023, at 13:45, Håkan Liljegren via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the tip! But unfortunately already tried that! I only try to work 
> with one stack at a time.
> 
> If I set a breakpoint and step over the line
> delete stack “teststack"
> 
> And then try to open a new stack with the same name there is no dialog box
> If I run the same code (without any breakpoints). I can wait forever (well 
> kind of) and the stack will still be among the mainStacks. If I run your 
> suggest code with a counter addition:
> 
> repeat while "teststack" is among the lines of the mainStacks
>  delete stack "teststack"
>  add 1 to tCount
> end repeat
> put tCount
> 
> I get an output of 1 but again if I bring up the message box after the code 
> Is executed and do a “put the mainStacks” the stack is back again! If I run a 
> loop over all my 25 stacks (or so) with the same name using the code above it 
> loops through several stacks in quick succession but then I got the dialog 
> again, and again, and again, and again… until I force quitted LiveCode.
> 
> Created there stacks teststack1, 2 and 3 in the same folder all with the same 
> name “teststack”. If I then run the following code from another stack in the 
> same folder:
> 
>   set the itemDelimiter to slash
>   put item 1 to -2 of the filename of this stack into tPath
>   repeat with i = 1 to 3 
>  open stack tPath & "/teststack" & i & ".livecode"
>  repeat while “teststack" is among the lines of the mainStacks
> delete stack "teststack"
>  end repeat
>   end repeat
> 
> Then I get a dialog asking what I want to do with teststack1 before I load 
> teststack2 and teststack2 is still open after the code has run! If I create 6 
> stacks and run the same code (but from 1 to 6 of course) I get into the 
> unstoppable dialog loop and needs to quit LiveCode! 
> 
> I’ve update the bug report https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=24163 
> with new example ( https://quality.livecode.com/attachment.cgi?id=11421 ) 
> that causes my LiveCode to get into the endless dialog loop. So, don’t run 
> this if you have unsaved work in another stack!
> 
> If it works for you Jacqueline, what platform are you using? Maybe this is a 
> Mac only problem? I’m running MacOS Ventura 13.1 on a MacBook Pro (M1 Max).
> 
> :-Håkan
> 
>> On 5 Apr 2023, at 21:27, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I just created four same-named stacks and ran my suggested handler wrapped 
>> with timer commands. All four were deleted in 67 milliseconds. LC 10.0.0 DP 
>> 4.
>> 
>> put the milliseconds into tStart
>> repeat while "test" is in the mainstacks
>>  delete stack "test"
>> end repeat
>> answer the milliseconds - tStart
>> 
>> Ralph's idea to use filter is good too but slightly slower, at (a fairly 
>> insignificant) 79 milliseconds:
>> 
>> put the milliseconds into tStart
>> filter the mainstacks with "test*" into tStacks
>> repeat for each line l in tStacks
>>  delete stack l
>> end repeat
>> answer the milliseconds - tStart
>> 
>> On 4/5/23 10:15 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
>>> Whoa! No I'm not! There's over 300 mainstacks just from Livecode!
>>> Bob S
>>> On Apr 5, 2023, at 08:07, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Oooh Pro Tip #276 from Jacque. I'm gonna use that one.
>>> Bob S
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Re: [iOS] possible console bug

[Jimmieson, Phil via use-livecode]

I think it changed at some point and you’re now supposed to use
  write  to stdout
though I just tried that and couldn’t get it to produce any output in the 
console.


On 12 Jul 2021, at 15:01, Andre Garzia via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

but it is supposed to work, right? Did this changed in some version?

On 12 Jul 2021, at 14:45, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

I tried here with  LC9.6.2 under Catalina. It doesn't work either.


Am 12.07.2021 um 14:49 schrieb Andre Garzia via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:

Hi Friends,

I’m writing here before I fill up a bug report because I don’t know if I’m 
doing things correctly.

From what I remember, if we did a “put” to stdout, it would appear in the 
system log on iOS Simulator. Is that still the case?

I have an empty stack here with a button with the following script:

on mouseUp
put “this doesn’t work.”
put “it still doesn’t work”
end mouseUp

When I run that stack on the iOS Simulator, and select the “system log” menu 
item from the Simulator application, I can see a log of debug information but I 
can’t see any of my own “put” messages. No matter how many times I click the 
button.

Wasn’t that supposed to work?

This is MacOS Big Sur in a Macbook Air M1 running LiveCode 9.6.3-rc-1

Om om
Andre
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Re: App fails to launch after code signing

[Jimmieson, Phil via use-livecode]

Panos said that the older version of revZip was built with an older version of 
Xcode (11.x), vs the newer revZip (Xcode 12.x), so presumably the difference is 
due to that...

Sent from my iPad

> On 26 Apr 2021, at 07:11, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was wondering the same thing, and also why an older version of revZip 
> didn't need entitlements to be set.
> 
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>> On April 25, 2021 11:31:25 PM scott--- via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> ps. Out of curiosity, what might cause the app/installer to change if it 
>> were launched before signing?
> 
> 
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Re: App fails to launch after code signing

[Jimmieson, Phil via use-livecode]

Hi Scott,

I had something similar with an app that uses revZip. Have a look at this 
discussion on livecode’s bug reporter site:


https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23176

Sent from my iPhone

On 25 Apr 2021, at 11:38, scott--- via use-livecode 
 wrote:

I just tried building the app using LC 9.5.1 (business) rather than 9.6.2 (rc 
5) which is what I had been using. And it worked… which is great but I have no 
idea why.

—
Scott


On Apr 25, 2021, at 1:04 AM, scott--- via use-livecode 
 wrote:

I have created a standalone Mac app. It launches and works as expected. The 
problem is that after code signing it (though it throws a few errors they seem 
to all be ones that are generally regarded as bogus error messages) the app 
fails to launch.

It reports success for code signing, notarization and staplication.
I’m using a lightly modified version of  Matthias Rebbe’s great  < 
mrSignNotarizeHelperV2-LC_lesson.livecode > to do the heavy lifting. Checking 
with the terminal shows:

"valid on disk”
"satisfies its Designated Requirement"

When I look in the console I see this happens when the app tries to launch:

"AddInstanceForFactory: No factory registered for id  
F8BB1C28-BAE8-11D6-9C31-00039315CD46”

This app uses the following inclusions (added manually)
   tsNet
   mergJSON
   Revolution Zip
   Internet
   DataGrid

The Googles seem to indicate that it is associated with AV stuff (primarily 
audio) but my app doesn’t do anything like that. Any ideas what this might mean?

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Re: Ideas on iOS GPS tracking needed

[Jimmieson, Phil via use-livecode]

Hi Graham,


PS The only test data I have been able to find for the XCode Simulator is a 
bike ride in California which runs along giving a succession of GPS . It is 
quite useful, but naturally it doesn’t involve anomalies.


You can make your own location simulations to run in the iOS simulator. They 
are .gpx files containing coordinate information in XML format.

I created one for my students to use on my App Development (in Swift) module. I 
managed to hack it together and made a simulated walk/run around part of the 
Liverpool University Campus. To make one these you need GPS coordinates (I got 
them from Google Maps) and times - the difference in time from the last step 
determines the speed that the marker travels from the previous step. Since it 
was done by hand, the times between steps don’t match well with the distances 
and so the walk turns into a very fast run once or twice, but it works as an 
example.

Copy and paste the text below into a text file and save it with a “.gpx” 
extension.






http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1";
 xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance";
 xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1 
http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1/gpx.xsd";
 version="1.1"
 creator="Phil Jimmieson and Jodie Zhou">
 
Ashton Building
  2019-11-22T08:59:46Z
 

 
step 1
  2019-11-22T09:01:00Z
 

 
step 2
  2019-11-22T09:01:20Z
 

 
step 3
  2019-11-22T09:01:40Z
 

 
step 4
  2019-11-22T09:02:00Z
 

 
step 5
  2019-11-22T09:02:20Z
 

 
step 6
  2019-11-22T09:02:40Z
 

 
step 7
  2019-11-22T09:03:00Z
 

 
step 8
  2019-11-22T09:03:20Z
 

 
step 9
  2019-11-22T09:03:40Z
 

 
step 10
  2019-11-22T09:04:00Z
 

 
step 11
  2019-11-22T09:04:20Z
 
 
step 12
  2019-11-22T09:04:40Z
 


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Re: Issue with dropbox

[Jimmieson, Phil via use-livecode]

Hi Charles,
if this is on a Mac, it’s a security feature - apps cannot access folders 
outside of their own bundle unless the user explicitly grants permission. If 
you add an "answer folder”  command to your program, and ask the user to select 
folder B, then your app will be granted access to it and everything will work 
as it should.

Downloaded apps (even if you download them in a zip file) are flagged as being 
insecure and are not allowed to access your Mac’s filesystem.

I had this problem with an app of mine. An alternative approach I took there 
was to put folders of required supporting files into the app’s own bundle - 
using the standalone builder’s copy files tab. Apps are allowed to access files 
in their own bundle (but should not change them if your app is digitally 
signed).

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On 10 Sep 2020, at 23:33, Charles Lachat via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

Hi everybody,

A friend has accepted to test my new desktop app. I upload the app to dropbox 
and send a link, by e-mail, to my friend.

My app is in a folder "A" containing :

** the app
** a folder "B" containing several text files the app needs

The folder "A" is zipped before uploading.

After downloading (friend side) and unzipping, all the files are there but the 
app behaves as if there were no folder "B".

Most of the time.

What am I doing wrong ? Any idee ?




Thanks
Charles Lachat

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Re: Adding items to a group

[Jimmieson, Phil via use-livecode]

Thanks very much Mark, the relayer command is exactly what I needed.


relayer field “xx” to the front of group “thePoem” —adds the field to the poem 
group at the top of the group

relayer field “xx” after group “thePoem” —removes the field from the poem group 
and leaves it in front of the group


On 26 Aug 2020, at 10:27, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

On 2020-08-26 10:06, Jimmieson, Phil via use-livecode wrote:
One thing I’m considering is having a set of dummy hidden items
already in the group and making one of those look like the word the
user just dragged in - thus it’s already a member of the group and can
be scrolled etc with the rest. Can anyone think of any better ways of
doing it?

Take a look at the 'relayer' command in the dictionary. It allows you to move 
controls up and down the layer order and in and out of groups easily (without 
any need to ungroup/regroup).

Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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Adding items to a group

[Jimmieson, Phil via use-livecode]

Hi folks,
The app I’m currently working on features a poem presented as a series of 
fields (each containing one word of the poem) all grouped together, so that the 
poem can be scrolled vertically by the user. I need to be able to add extra 
words to the poem as the user drags them in from a set of words above the poem 
area. Currently I am doing this by ungrouping the poem, adding the new field to 
the list of group items and then re-grouping everything.  I know you can 
reorder group items, and move things in from outside, but the documentation 
seems to suggest that the number of items in the group will stay the same - if 
one item is moved in, another will be moved out. Is there another way to add an 
item to a group, or is ungrouping then regrouping but with an additional item 
in the list of items the only way?


One thing I’m considering is having a set of dummy hidden items already in the 
group and making one of those look like the word the user just dragged in - 
thus it’s already a member of the group and can be scrolled etc with the rest. 
Can anyone think of any better ways of doing it?

Thanks

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Re: iOS Provisioning Profile issue

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Hi Graham,
What I usually do when I have provisioning profile problems is:

locate the folder that contains my downloaded profiles -  it’s in your personal 
library folder in your home folder (which by default is hidden).

In my case I open a window to:

/Users/phil/Library/MobileDevice/Provisioning Profiles/

Trash all of the profiles in there.

Start Xcode, and once it’s running go to preferences and select the accounts 
tab. From the area on the right of the window, select download manual profiles 
- this will re-download the profiles from Apple (and repopulate the folder that 
you just emptied).

Go back to LiveCode, and from the standalone application settings window, iOS 
tab, select the required profile from the profile popup menu.

All of that usually solves the problem. I did once have an issue where even 
that didn’t work, and in that case I logged in to Apple's developer site, 
trashed the provisioning profile and re-created it. I then went through the 
sequence outlined above and this time it was successful.

On 22 May 2020, at 16:16, Graham Samuel via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

Panos, it is very strange: I looked up my provisioning profile in the 
developer.app.com site (I’ve only got the one 
provisioning profile, for iOS, type “App Store"), noted that the expiry date is 
8 May 2021, re-downloade it, double-clicked it to bring it to the attention of 
XCode, and tried the upload of the app to the phone again. Exactly the same 
result.

My next move is to revisit the Standalone Settings for the app - I am not quite 
sure  how LC knows which profiles I have or where they are, but I assume it’s 
looking in Keychain Access as I have had to supply a password for that, and 
where one can read that the certificate exists and is valid.

Graham


On 22 May 2020, at 13:48, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

Hello Graham,

Hmm ok, that's strange. Could you make sure the provisioning profile has
not expired, and it is still valid, as Matthias suggested?

There is no need to download 9.6 RC-2 for that, we have not changed
anything that could cause this issue.

Kind regards,
Panos
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On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 13:49, Graham Samuel via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

Panos - thanks for asking

Yes it is - an iPhone XS which has been my key test device for weeks.
Should I try it on the very latest version of LC? I had a download glitch
last night so didn’t install it (the joys of rural broadband).

Graham


Sent from my iPhone

On 22 May 2020, at 11:00, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

Hello Graham,

Is that the same iOS device you used when you could successfully
install the app?

Kind regards,
Panos
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On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 11:52, Graham Samuel via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

I’ve been using XCode to load an app into my iPhone for some time now,
but
today using LC 9.6.0 rc1, I got this refusal:

A valid provisioning profile for this executable was not found.

As far as I’m concerned, I’ve got the same provisioning profile as I
had a
few days ago, and it’s  been in the Standalone Settings for the app for
some time, when this version of LC did several successful updates.

Can anyone suggest what I’ve done wrong?

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