Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?

2017-05-24 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
On May 24, 2017, at 4:07 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode > wrote: > > Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I have at least a couple of apps I built in > 8 that still use the hack. > > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.r

Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?

2017-05-24 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
ia use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I have at least a couple of apps I built in >> 8 that still use the hack. >> >> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.

Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?

2017-05-24 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
e/simulator folders. > 12) Fire up LC and make an iOS app. > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > > -Original Message- > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf > Of Jonathan Ly

Apparent peculiar behavior in browser widget on iOS

2017-05-25 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
It appears that one cannot send a JavaScript message from the browser widget to LC from a JS function initiated by a body onload event. It works on mac, but not on iPhone. It is most peculiar and I am wondering if anyone else has encountered anything like this. Sent from my iPhone

Re: Apparent peculiar behavior in browser widget on iOS

2017-05-25 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
More specifically - this seems to happen after setting the htmltext by script. It works fine if the browser widget already has the right htmltext when the stack loads. Sent from my iPhone > On May 25, 2017, at 12:59 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: > > It appears that one cannot send a Jav

Does MobileSensorReading work?

2017-05-26 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I put a button on my app and put the app on my iPhone. The button had the following script: on mouseUp put MobileSensorReading("location",true) into tReading answer the Keys of tReading answer tReading end mouseUp I figured this would tell me if the function was supposed to return an array

Re: Does MobileSensorReading work?

2017-05-26 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Never mind - I see It works after you turn on mobileSensorStartTracking, and appears to return an array on my device Sent from my iPhone > On May 26, 2017, at 10:56 AM, Jonathan Lynch wrote: > > > I put a button on my app and put the app on my iPhone. > > The button had the following script

Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?

2017-05-26 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
ve a mobile app simply resume > rather than restart? > > I'm pretty sure you can't do it while it's still in the applications folder. > You have to command-drag it out of the applications folder, first, before > you modify it - at least I do, anyway. > > On Wed, May

Re: Does MobileSensorReading work?

2017-05-26 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
cise.php > > Devin > > On May 26, 2017, at 9:30 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode > mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: > > Never mind - I see > > It works after you turn on mobileSensorStartTracking, and appears to return > an array on my de

Re: Does MobileSensorReading work?

2017-05-27 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
class. Here’s a sample app that takes you through the >> main points. >> >> http://livecode.byu.edu/mobile/sensorExercise.php >> >> Devin >> >> On May 26, 2017, at 9:30 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode >> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.c

Re: Does MobileSensorReading work?

2017-05-27 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
hat takes you through >>> the main points. >>> >>> http://livecode.byu.edu/mobile/sensorExercise.php >>> >>> Devin >>> >>> On May 26, 2017, at 9:30 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode >>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com&g

Re: Does MobileSensorReading work?

2017-05-27 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
>>>> >>>> I worked it out for my class. Here’s a sample app that takes you through >>>> the main points. >>>> >>>> http://livecode.byu.edu/mobile/sensorExercise.php >>>> >>>> Devin >>>> >&

Apparently, mobile phone compasses do not work well

2017-05-27 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
After a bit of experimentation with different devices, and researching online, I have come to realize that the device simply cannot consistently detect one's bearing with accuracy. I am going to mimic the way Pokémon Go lets the user spin the view around at will, but still auto adjusts the posi

Re: [ANN] This Week in LiveCode 84

2017-05-29 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I see that you guys added an "exit on suspend" checkbox. Thank you! Sent from my iPhone > On May 29, 2017, at 7:13 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi all, > > Read about new developments in LiveCode open source and the open source > community in today's edition of the "Th

Re: HTML5 deployment: progress comes into sight

2017-05-31 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
A native svg object that accurately displays all svg files is essential. I strongly support Mark's point on that issue. This is not reinventing the wheel - it's attaching the already invented wheel to the wagon. Sent from my iPhone > On May 31, 2017, at 4:26 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode

Using callbacks within LC and JS

2017-05-31 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
This is in response to a different thread, but worth discussing on its own. I just wanted to explain my view on why callbacks are not as horrible as they seem at first, if one structures the script logically. The below code explains: On LCcontrolScript pcommand,pdata If pcommand = empty then P

Re: HTML5 deployment: progress comes into sight

2017-05-31 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
el you could start with ALL SVG images made in Inkscape: monochromatic > "thingies" have limited use. > > Richmond. > >> On 5/31/17 11:48 am, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: >>> On 2017-05-31 10:38, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote: >>> A n

Re: Using callbacks within LC and JS

2017-05-31 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Yah - setting up threads that include JS event listeners was a big pain for Augmented Earth - I have no suggestions for simplifying that part. That bit of complexity seems unavoidable to me. Sent from my iPhone > On May 31, 2017, at 9:15 AM, hh via use-livecode > wrote: > > Sadly this is on

Re: HTML5 deployment: progress comes into sight

2017-05-31 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
A callback is not synchronous, his point was that it would be nice to communicate synchronously between LC and JS, rather than use complex callback chains. I agree with him, but I don't think there is a universal way to do that, just because some things in JavaScript, like rendering an image or

Re: Flash Talks Still Wanted - 50 minute slots almost gone

2017-06-01 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Hi Heather, Would there be any interest in an explanation on how to put 3D Earth maps into a LiveCode stack? It would take more than 7 minutes, but the technique is pretty cool. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 1, 2017, at 11:54 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode > wrote: > > Dear List Folks, >

Re: Flash Talks Still Wanted - 50 minute slots almost gone

2017-06-01 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Worst cases would be > that there are fewer people doing 14 minutes, or several people having to > rush. > > My guess is that it would be mostly booked, and just a few would get the > benefit of having 14 minutes. > > >> On Jun 1, 2017, at 6:11 PM, Jonathan Lynch v

Re: HTML5 deployment: progress comes into sight

2017-06-04 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
No need to loop. Set three flags to false. After each callback comes in and the flag gets switched, check all three flags. After the last ones comes in, all three flag variables will be switched and can trigger the next action. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 3, 2017, at 9:04 PM, Mark Wieder via

When you release an app on the apple App Store...

2017-06-16 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
If you don't promote it at all, will it get zero downloads? Sent from my iPhone ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.co

Re: LC Global - my experience

2017-06-16 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
It seemed good for learning new ideas that might make my coding less idiosyncratic, but less useful for networking. I would love a presentation on marketing LC apps. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 16, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode > wrote: > > I agree. But I do miss the late

Re: LC Global - my experience

2017-06-17 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I could not afford to travel to Scotland right now, so the virtual meeting was the only way for me. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 17, 2017, at 9:05 AM, Skip Kimpel via use-livecode > wrote: > > an open bar > > SKIP > >> On Jun 17, 2017, at 8:42 AM, pink via use-livecode >> wrote:

How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-24 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I cannot figure it out from the docs Sent from my iPhone ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-24 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Does that mean I could put the text to be copied into a native field, then put into the clipboard from there? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 24, 2017, at 4:46 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > >> On 6/24/17 2:03 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote: >> I

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-25 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I was very surprised it wasn't. I plan to submit Augmented Earth to the apple App Store today. I am going to be embarrassed to tell users they cannot paste text into their reports on a mobile device. I think I will try to find a workaround between version 1 and version 1.1 Sent from my iPhone

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-25 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
www.hyperactivesw.com > > > >> On June 25, 2017 11:07:08 AM Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> I was very surprised it wasn't. I plan to submit Augmented Earth to the >> apple App Store today. I am going to be embarrassed to tell use

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-25 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Thanks Richard, This conversation has made me realize I am about to have a yak shaving moment... The most important field for submitting a report in Augmented Earth is the Content field. Because it is an LC field, I use it to allow the user to enter text, format the text, and upload images. The i

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-26 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Hi Dave - I think that might help I could give the user a button for opening up a pastable field. They could paste into that and LC could process it and put it into the regular field. It's not a bad idea. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 26, 2017, at 2:39 PM, Dave Kilroy via use-livecode > wr

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-26 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
For this case, though, it will have to be called up specially, not made to look like it was already there. The field in question also allows users to put in images - something I don't think native fields can do. So the app would have an enter text button that calls up the native field, where th

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-26 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I just modified the texting part of Augmented Earth to use a browser widget for texting - it was a huge pain. But - now it has inertial scrolling, copy and paste, and works fine with all of the emojis. I might wind up going that route on other text entry stuff. It is clean and smooth that way.

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-26 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
And the iPhone speech to text works this way too! Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 26, 2017, at 9:21 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: > > I just modified the texting part of Augmented Earth to use a browser widget > for texting - it was a huge pain. But - now it has inertial scrolling, copy > a

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-26 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I am not trying to start a fuss - just find solutions for my particular problem. This is what worked for me for this situation. For situations where LC provides a full solution, it is MUCH faster to code in. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 26, 2017, at 9:56 PM, Roger Eller via use-livecode > wro

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-27 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Thanks Roger, With the huge amount of LC/HTML work I have done over the last year, I feel comfortable in saying that LC is vastly superior for all of the underlying text processing and data manipulation that has to be done. HTML/JS is all about presentation, but would be hard to use for the bac

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-27 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
>From a design perspective, for being able to use paste, speech to text, and >emojis, I have Idea that comes from something Richard said. When a user clicks on a field to edit, that field could appear to start from its location and grow to take up most of the screen. It would actually be a mobi

Momentum Scrolling Script

2017-06-28 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Hi everyone, I just created and tested a momentum scrolling script on my iPhone, and it appears to work quite well, so I thought I would share it here. It also works on desktop with mouse dragging. If you see improvements, please share them. 1. Make sure to have accelerated rendering on for the s

Re: Momentum Scrolling Script

2017-06-28 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
That's a good tip - it actually will affect one of my groups quite a bit - drat. Thanks Sean Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 28, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode > wrote: > > This is excellent Jonathan, Thanks. > > Another tip is to make sure that the Group object you wish to

Re: Momentum Scrolling Script

2017-06-28 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I just realized I had the wrong way of checking to see if scrolling should stop. Somehow it still worked, which is kinda weird. Here is the revised script, with checking for tCount < 1 rather than tCount > 50 - Momentum Scrolling Code Local StartDrag Local AllowDrag Local StartDragMil

Re: Momentum Scrolling Script

2017-06-28 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
iny bit more efficiency to the script. > > on mouseMove X,Y > if allowDrag <> empty then > set the vScroll of me to (allowDrag-Y) > end if > end mouseMove > > Regards, > > Scott Rossi > Creative Director > Tactile Media, UX/UI Design > &g

Re: Momentum Scrolling Script

2017-06-28 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
e efficiency to the script. >> >> on mouseMove X,Y >> if allowDrag <> empty then >>set the vScroll of me to (allowDrag-Y) >> end if >> end mouseMove >> >> Regards, >> >> Scott Rossi >> Creative Director >> Tactile

Re: Momentum Scrolling Script

2017-06-28 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Are you saying the down scroll has less momentum? I have no idea why it would do that, but you can increase the momentum overall by changing tRemainingDistance/15 to a lower divisor, like tRemainingDistance/10. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:23 PM, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecod

Re: Momentum Scrolling Script

2017-06-28 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Rounding to the nearest whole number could explain the direction bias. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:31 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: > > Are you saying the down scroll has less momentum? > > I have no idea why it would do that, but you can increase the momentum > overall b

Disallowing overscroll/bounce in the browser widget on iOS

2017-06-29 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Has anyone managed to block that annoying bounce effect? It looks terrible in an app. I tried all sorts of CSS and JS, but no luck. I am going to explore editing the plist, since this is related to a UIWebView setting, but if anyone has already done this, it would be most helpful. Sent from my

Re: Printing a Widget Browser

2017-06-29 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Could you export to a file, launch that in the user's standard browser, and print from there? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 29, 2017, at 2:04 PM, Terence Heaford via use-livecode > wrote: > > > Not posted for a long time but still keeping an eye on progress. > > Is there any chance of printi

Re: Printing a Widget Browser

2017-06-29 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Also, have you tried this: Do "window.print()" in widget "my widget" Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 29, 2017, at 3:37 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: > > Could you export to a file, launch that in the user's standard browser, and > print from there? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 29,

Re: Google Static Maps Problem

2017-06-30 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Hi Bill, Can you share the LC code and JS you are using? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 29, 2017, at 9:59 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode > wrote: > > Folks: > I’ve found a way to display an image of a google static map, in my app. It’s > quite easy and well-documented. However, I need

Re: Google Static Maps Problem

2017-06-30 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
> > Thanks for any help. I know your augmented Earth application uses these maps > too, and I’m also willing to share code when I get this working. > > Bill P > >> On Jun 30, 2017, at 3:50 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> Hi Bill, >

Re: How do we access the clipboard on mobile devices?

2017-06-30 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Today, Thierry allowed me to put the external from his text to speech app into Augmented Earth. I was able to put in a paste button above the content field and paste text into the app on my iPhone. It worked quite well. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 28, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-

Re: Google Static Maps Problem

2017-06-30 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Bill, The bounds will only give you the corners of the image if you are facing exactly North, south, east, or west, I am sorry I have not had a chance to check out your stack - will do so shortly Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 30, 2017, at 7:56 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode > wrote: >

Re: Google Static Maps Problem

2017-06-30 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Hi Bill, I am looking at your stack now. I don't see any place where you use JavaScript to get get the bounds from the Google maps API. I think you would have to do it that way to get a reliable result. That won't give you corners, exactly, but it will give you a minimum bounding rectangle tha

Advice on copying and pasting in mobile

2017-07-02 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Hello, I really need to be able to paste text in an LC field on mobile. I can do it for iOS with the sunny text to speech external, but that external has an audio message that comes on when the app first opens, which would be rather confusing for users. I have so far avoided LC builder because

Re: Advice on copying and pasting in mobile

2017-07-02 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Well, I don't need a special field, I just need access to the clipboard. Do you know of any other externals that allow that? I Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2017, at 10:46 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > jonathandlynch wrote: > > > I really need to be able to paste text i

Re: Advice on copying and pasting in mobile

2017-07-02 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I have been thinking a lot about that... I like having the ability to have images inside a field in LC, something that both HTML and native fields do not do readily. A user can enter text, add a picture, and enter more text. It is simple and intuitive this way. That said, with an HTML form I c

Re: Advice on copying and pasting in mobile

2017-07-02 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Hi Hermann, It turns out we can have a div with editable content in html5. For version 1.1 or 1.2, I might figure out how to make a full content form in HTML, including an editable div, which accepts both text and images. For now, I created a special input in HTML5 to allow pasting into the con

Re: Advice on copying and pasting in mobile

2017-07-03 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Oh - I will buy the licensed one. Can I get it now? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 3, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Thierry Douez via use-livecode > wrote: > > 2017-07-02 14:54 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Lynch > > : > > Hello, >> >> I really need to be able to paste text in an LC field on mobile. >> >> I can do

Submitting to the #%^%#? App Store

2017-07-04 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Both venting and seeking advice. Actually submitting an app to iTunes Connect is not easy, to put it mildly. I am getting an error... The executable 'Payload/Augmented Earth.app/Augmented Earth' must be signed with the certificate that is contained in the provisioning profile. I have no idea h

Re: Submitting to the #%^%#? App Store

2017-07-04 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
profile? Was its certificate your > Distribution one? > > >> On Jul 4, 2017, at 7:02 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> Both venting and seeking advice. >> >> Actually submitting an app to iTunes Connect is not easy, to put it mild

Re: Submitting to the #%^%#? App Store

2017-07-04 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
ning-profiles-from-xcode > > It should have a certificate associated with it, and unless you recently > resubscribed it ought to work. > >> On Jul 4, 2017, at 7:30 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> Hi Colin, >> >> Yes and yes >&

Re: Submitting to the #%^%#? App Store

2017-07-04 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
one. See discussions like this on how to remove out of date >> ones: >> >> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/26732251/how-to-remove-provisioning-profiles-from-xcode >> >> It should have a certificate associated with it, and unless you recently >> resub

Re: Submitting to the #%^%#? App Store

2017-07-05 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
p;node=4716597&i=1>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> You choose a profile in Standalone Application Settings. There’s a danger >>>> of picking an old one. See discussions like this on how to remove out of >>>> date ones: >>&g

Re: debugging a CEF browser instance

2017-07-05 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Hi Bernard, I work with JS in the browser widget quite a bit. I have just gotten used to testing JS commands very carefully, step by step, because it does not really provide any debugging information. It would be nice to have that. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2017, at 7:34 AM, Bernard Dev

Re: can I lock screen over more than one handler?

2017-07-05 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Hi Tiemo, It unlocks at the end of a handler. This can be a problem when calling another handler. I handle it by turning a called handler into a function. However, I don't think you can do it with a "send in time" handler. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2017, at 7:45 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB

Re: AW: can I lock screen over more than one handler?

2017-07-05 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I have found that lock screen only blocks screen updates within the main LC context. So, for example, it does not block whatever is happening in a browser. For some reason, it also sometimes seems smoother to call a function rather than a handler, but perhaps I misperceived what was happening.

Re: AW: can I lock screen over more than one handler?

2017-07-05 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I have a suggestion, if nothing else works. Use two players, layered on top of each other. When you switch the source of a player, do it to the player on the bottom, then move it to be on top of the other player. By switching back and forth, and only reassigning the player on the bottom, it sh

Re: AW: can I lock screen over more than one handler?

2017-07-05 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Hi Tiemo - you could play the video in a browser. I know that seems to be my go-to solution, but I figure we do whatever works. Have you tried switching between players without locking the screen? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2017, at 11:42 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode > wrote: >

Which is better for making an android version, Mac or pc?

2017-07-05 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Is it easier to use a Mac or a pc for making android apps? Sent from my iPhone ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com

Re: Which is better for making an android version, Mac or pc?

2017-07-05 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Thank you, Jacqueline Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2017, at 5:11 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > >> On 7/5/17 2:48 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote: >> Is it easier to use a Mac or a pc for making android apps? > > I don't think it

Re: debugging a CEF browser instance

2017-07-05 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Why? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 6, 2017, at 1:45 AM, Bernard Devlin via use-livecode > wrote: > > Replying to myself, for anyone else who thinks it ought to be possible to > debug a browser widget. > > Ability to debug has been deliberately turned off. > https://github.com/livecode/livecode

Crashing when I try to make a Mac standalone

2017-07-05 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
When I try to make a standalone for Mac in version 8.1.5 RC 2 it crashes at the moment where it tries to include externals. Has anyone else seen this or know what I should be looking out for? Sent from my iPhone ___ use-livecode mailing list use-liveco

Re: Crashing when I try to make a Mac standalone

2017-07-05 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Following up - it seems to create the standalone and then crash. At least it created the standalone, but that crash makes me nervous. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 6, 2017, at 2:46 AM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: > > When I try to make a standalone for Mac in version 8.1.5 RC 2 it crashes at

Re: Crashing when I try to make a Mac standalone

2017-07-06 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I will try tc 3 - just need to hack the plist again Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 6, 2017, at 2:57 AM, Thierry Douez via use-livecode > wrote: > > 2017-07-06 8:54 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Lynch: > >> Following up - it seems to create the standalone and then crash. > > >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>

Re: debugging a CEF browser instance

2017-07-06 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
see which JS errors we are producing. Shrugs - I have done okay with just testing line-by-line as I go. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:28 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > >> On 2017-07-06 08:39, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote: >> Why? >

Codesigning a Mac desktop version

2017-07-06 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I am not sure which parts we need to sign. Is it just the app bundle, the zipped file, plugins within the app bundle? If anyone has done this, which parts do you sign to avoid warnings from the gatekeeper? Thanks, J Sent from my iPhone ___ use-liveco

Re: Codesigning a Mac desktop version

2017-07-06 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I tried using Trevor Devore' codesigning stack, which is a very nice contribution to the community. I am getting a complaint about unsealed contents present in the bundle root. Does anyone know what the issue is? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:49 AM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote

Re: AW: Codesigning a Mac desktop version

2017-07-06 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
he Nachricht- > Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag > von Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. Juli 2017 10:16 > An: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Cc: jonathandly...@gmail.com > Betreff: Re: Codesigning a Mac des

Re: AW: can I lock screen over more than one handler?

2017-07-06 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Tiemo, have you tried using a browser widget instead? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 6, 2017, at 6:05 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > I wonder if you cannot manage to lock the screen over more than one handler > by calling > the second handler from within the first one? >

Re: Codesigning a Mac desktop version

2017-07-06 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I will do that - thanks Trevor Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 6, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode > wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 3:16 AM Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> I tried using Trevor Devor

Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

2017-07-06 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Hi everyone, Version 1 of Augmented Earth is now live on the Apple App Store :) If you get a chance, please check it out. This is just a soft launch, but I am excited to have it out there. I won't start heavy promotion until version 1.5. I will be posting a map-only version on Livecode Share fo

Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

2017-07-06 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
> *Pi Digital Productions Ltd* > > > eMail Ts & Cs <http://pidigital.co.uk/emailTCs.rtf> Pi Digital > Productions Ltd is a UK registered limited company, no. 5255609 > > On 6 July 2017 at 15:01, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com&g

Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

2017-07-06 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
> > I’m looking forward to seeing this final app. Looks very ambitious, and > should be a winner. Look out, FaceBook! > Best, > Bill P > >> On Jul 6, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >>

Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

2017-07-06 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
ther. If I pressed “Return” after my password entry, it tried to register >> me but I got an “Invalid credentials dialog. >> >> I quit the app, opened it again, and got the same behavior. >> >> I’m looking forward to seeing this final app. Looks very ambitious, and >>

Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

2017-07-06 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
ote: >> >> Jonathon: >> A common solutionfor this is to have two buttons. One says: “I am a new >> first-time User” and the other one says: “I have an account. Log me in.” >> That would avoid the confusion. >> >> Best, >> Bill >> >>&

Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

2017-07-06 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
t; testing user experience. >> >> Best, >> Bill >> >>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 11:57 AM, William Prothero via use-livecode >>> wrote: >>> >>> Jonathon: >>> A common solutionfor this is to have two buttons. One says: “I am a new >>&

Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

2017-07-06 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
w.pidigital.co.uk > +44(1634)402193 > +44(7702)116447 > 'Don't try to think outside the box. Just remember the truth: There is no > box!' > 'For then you realise it is not the box you are trying to look outside of, > but it is yourself!' > > eMail T

Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

2017-07-06 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
702)116447 >> 'Don't try to think outside the box. Just remember the truth: There is no >> box!' >> 'For then you realise it is not the box you are trying to look outside of, >> but it is yourself!' >> >> eMail Ts & Cs <http://pidigital.c

Re: Google Static Maps Demo Available

2017-07-06 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Thanks for this, Bill Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 6, 2017, at 8:31 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode > wrote: > > Folks: > Thanks to help from Hermann, I am sharing a demo stack that accesses the > Google Static Maps API to display maps. This API allows me to display a > terrain map, an

Re: Augmented Earth now on the App Store!

2017-07-07 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
you have a big staff. > I've been thinking about similar things for our new app, but everytime I shy > away… > > BR > > On 7/6/17, 4:01 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Jonathan Lynch via > use-livecode" use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >I

Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I think my experience of the last two days has taught me something - I have been micro-coaching my friends when they try my app. Just the littlest input, like saying "oh, just press the button again to submit" comes so easily and, apparently mucks up testing entirely. While the harm will be min

Re: Google Static Maps Demo Available

2017-07-07 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Hey guys - just a quick warning about google. Read their TOS very carefully before building an app around their service. One can find several horror stories online about Google cancelling contracts without really explaining why. Bill's stack should work well with a little bit of adaptation for b

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
s there would be volunteers from the live ode users group. > 3. Hire high school students who might have a tech interest. Look over their > shoulders as they use the app and dialog to themselves. Actually watching > users is invaluable. > > Good luck, > Bill P > > >

Re: iOS Browser Widget and PDFs? SOLVED

2017-07-07 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I think you are safe using special folder path "documents" on all platforms. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 7, 2017, at 1:00 PM, JOHN PATTEN via use-livecode > wrote: > > FWIW… > > The issue was related to the specialFolderPath. When I was testing this > aspect of the app I had it point to spe

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Thank you, Jacqueline Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 7, 2017, at 1:39 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > http://hyperactivesw.com/resources_testing.html > > >> On July 7, 2017 6:59:52 AM Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode >> wrote: >>

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
andman Gay via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> http://hyperactivesw.com/resources_testing.html >> >> >>> On July 7, 2017 6:59:52 AM Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode >>> wrote: >>> >>> What steps do you guys follow for accurate testing when

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
shut. If I had a one-way mirror in a > sound-proofed room I'd use that. Another method might be to have the user > share their screen and turn off your microphone, but screen sharing is not > easy on mobile apps. > > On 7/7/17 2:49 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote: &

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
It sounds like a little bit of direct, intensive observation is worth a lot of testing a a distance. Thanks Jeff Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 7, 2017, at 5:31 PM, Jeff Reynolds via use-livecode > wrote: > > Jonathan, > > I second bill's approach of watching folks use the app. Years of educa

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
It does help, Scott - sounds like I should segment the testing process with a cycle, running through the test, observe, discuss, note cycle for each group of functionalities. Not unlike PM methodology. Because I am looking to perfect and grow a single app over many years, I should be able to re

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
get your app out there and identify early > issues. A tour company might find a custom branded app that supports their > tour company to be appealing. > > Good luck, > > Best, > Bill P. > > >> On Jul 7, 2017, at 3:01 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode >>

Re: Biased testing and micro-coaching

2017-07-07 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
quot;study retreat" for some crazy advance bio-genetic engineering > exams.. who is very open and articulate about what they think about how it > should work. And I have on my schedule to talk to 4 different beta testers > remotely > > This doesn't happen by itself, you

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