Re: No progress updates on LC 10. Am i the only one who is concerned?

2023-07-24 Thread Jacques Clavel via use-livecode
+1
Jacques CLAVEL

Le lun. 24 juil. 2023 à 17:05, matthias rebbe via use-livecode <
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> Hi,
>
> I know Xavvi will be the next big step and I even helped with the funding.
> But I'm wondering why there hasn't been any news about LC 10 for a some
> months now.
> Am I the only one worried that the full focus is now on Xavvi and LC10 is
> left behind?
>
> Matthias
>
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Re: Latest video -- integration of AI into script editor

2023-05-18 Thread Jacques Clavel via use-livecode
Hi all and Steven,

I had pledged a few days ago to "Xavi Business 1 year" (499$) and now try
to extend it to "Xavi Business 2 Years" (999$).
But there is no option where I pay 500$ only to upgrade my pledge.
Please, how to do that ?
Jacques CLAVEL

Le mer. 17 mai 2023 à 14:00, Steven Crighton via use-livecode <
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> Hi Mark
>
> I’m really pleased to hear you enjoyed the video. What I would say is our
> testing so far has been extremely impressive, it was the inspiration to
> make that video. But you’re right, AI won’t get the script right every time
> and we have to handle that carefully. If the script that comes back won’t
> compile then Xavvi will intervene to make sure you are not actually
> accepting code that won’t run. However there may be instances where it
> supplies code that does compile but is still not what you hoped for, in the
> first instance we are providing an opt in to training feature where you can
> provide a thumbs up or thumbs down to the code you have been supplied as
> well as give a description on what was good or bad about it. Additionally
> there will always be options to accept or decline the result and try again
> with a slightly tweaked prompt. I hope this helps.
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Re: Transporter Issue

2023-02-22 Thread Jacques Clavel via use-livecode
LC 10.0.0 (dp 5 ?) ???
Jacques Clavel

Le mar. 21 févr. 2023 à 23:20, Dan Friedman via use-livecode <
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> Panos,
>
> No, that’s not it.   It’s a match.. it’s EXATLY how it is in the profile
> and in the certificate.  FWIW, I have uploaded this app before, I am trying
> to upload an update to an existing app.  So, I didn’t even change the app
> ID (just the version number).   I did have to update the certificate as it
> had expired.  But that’s it.   Of course, since it wasn’t working, I have
> revoked and recreated everything… still getting the same message in
> Transporter.   I always felt that LC wouldn’t properly build the app if all
> the “pieces” weren’t properly in place.  So, I am still stumped!
>
> FYI… I built the original version of this app in 9.6.2 and am now updating
> the app using 10.0.0 (dp 5).  I have other apps that I built with 10.0.0
> that were (and still are) working just fine.
>
> -Dan
>
>
> From: panagiotis m 
> Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2023 at 1:17 PM
> To: Dan Friedman 
> Cc: How to use LiveCode 
> Subject: Re: Transporter Issue
> Dan,
>
> Could it be the case the app id of your standalone does not match the one
> in iTunes connect? Maybe an uppercase/lowercase mismatch?
>
> Kind regards,
> Panos
>
> On Tue, 21 Feb 2023, 23:09 Dan Friedman,  d...@clearvisiontech.com>> wrote:
> Panos,
>
> Thank you for the reply….  It’s iOS.   I get this error the moment I drop
> the ipa into Transporter.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan Friedman
> CEO, ClearVision Technologies, LLC
> 909.484.2052
> d...@clearvisiontech.com<mailto:d...@clearvisiontech.com>
> https://www.clearvisiontech.com
>
> 
> From: use-livecode  use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com>> on behalf of panagiotis m via
> use-livecode  use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2023 10:57:58 AM
> To: How to use LiveCode  use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>
> Cc: panagiotis m mailto:merak...@gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: Transporter Issue
>
> Hello Dan,
>
> Is that an iOS or a Mac app? At which stage of the process do you get this
> error?
>
> Kind regards,
> Panos
> --
>
> On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 at 20:35, Dan Friedman via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com<mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have any insight to this problem?
> >
> > I can create my app in 10.0.0 (dp 5) with no issue/warning/error of any
> > kind.  But, when I try to add it to Transported to upload to Apple, I get
> > this error message:
> >
> > Could not create a temporary .itmsp package for the app
> “application.ipa”.
> > Lookup application information from the web service failed.
> >
> > I have other apps that don’t give this error when added to Transporter.
> I
> > think it’s probably a certificate or key issue, but I can’t see any
> issues
> > or missing items.  Any thoughts or ideas would be greatly appreciated!
> I’m
> > out of things to try…. Grrr…
> >
> > -Dan
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Re: RegEx to convert standard date to sql date

2022-09-30 Thread Jacques Clavel via use-livecode
Why not :
set itemdel to "/"
get tDate
put item 3 of it & item 1 of it & item 2 of it into tSql

JC

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> I'm trying to convert a date format like mm/dd/ to an sql date format
> mmdd. Any ideas? Nothing I found on the interwebs seems to work.
>
> Bob S
>
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Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-17 Thread Jacques Clavel via use-livecode
point 6. maybe potential for future performance gains :
- But today LCB is surprisingly less efficient (/3) than LCS (???)

JC

Le sam. 17 sept. 2022 à 01:35, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode <
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>
> On 15/09/2022 16:37, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote:
> > Docs aside... I still think that widgets and lcb is one of best
> additions to
> > LC. Community collaboration like this will make for better documentation
> and
> > more new/improved widgets. A robust library of widgets can only help LC
> to
> > penetrate the market. If only we had these when I started...
>
> I so much want to agree - but unfortunately it looks to me more like the
> biggest missed opportunity.
>
> The combination of widgets and LCB is a powerful one (and may indeed be
> one of the best additions). But I think if you unpick and pull apart the
> two parts (widget vs LCB) then there is what looks, to the naive
> observer like me, a missed chance.
>
> Widgets + LCB gives us (amongst other things):
>
> 1. naming + distribution + installation schemes.
>
> 2. integration with the docs / dictionary and IDE tools (inspectors,
> editors)
>
> 3. efficient "direct" drawing to canvas
>
> 4. typed variables
>
> 5. access to foreign languages / libraries.
>
> 6. maybe potential for future performance gains.
>
>
> But of those, only the last two *require* LCB; the others *could* have
> been done in a way that allows LCScript authors to benefit. (1) and (2)
> are clearly feasible for LCS almost without change from what's been done
> for LCB widgets, and I have to believe it would have been possible to
> provide LCS commands and functions to manipulate the canvas.
>
> Given those three things, many of the widgets (e.g. rotatedtext, navRAD)
> look like they could have been done easily using LCS.
>
> I still hold on to the hope that this will become a feature in some
> future release. And when (if) it ever does, then maybe we will see "1000
> widgets by Christmas" because it will be so much more approachable for
> the average LS Scripter.
>
> Alex.
>
>
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Re: lcb missing manual

2022-09-02 Thread Jacques Clavel via use-livecode
As a typed language, LCB should be more efficient than LCS.
Writing programs in LCB is more difficult and time consuming (bogs...) than
using higher level language (LCS)
You can write exactly the same functions, commands in LCB than in LCS
JC

Le ven. 2 sept. 2022 à 17:13, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
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> I wonder why the polygrid is so much faster than the datagrid at rendering,
> then, in the demo
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 10:54 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > Or slower than both? As I understand it, LCB has the capability to call C
> > externals which themselves would be faster than anything, but on it's own
> > it is slower than both.
> >
> > Bob S
> >
> >
> > On Sep 2, 2022, at 01:00 , Geoff Canyon via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com<mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 10:08 AM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com<mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Its much faster than C but slower than Script.
> >
> > Should that be "much slower than C but faster than Script"?
> >
> > In which case, what happened to the "faster than script" part?
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Re: Server globals

2022-08-12 Thread Jacques Clavel via use-livecode
Hi Tim,

You can also use localStorage for user specific data at the browser level :
In your .lc script on the server :
to store

 localStorage.jcf2 = '" &sDir&  "'


and retrieve data

 var jMem = localStorage.getItem('jcf2');


Regards,

JC

Le ven. 12 août 2022 à 15:19, Tim Selander via use-livecode <
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> Hi Matthias,
>
> It is user specific, but I just tried the saving to a text file
> on the server -- very fast. Got the user IP from $_Server, and
> used that in the filename for easy later retrieval. How much data
> can a cookie hold? Guess I'll test that.
>
> One of the reasons I'm fussing with this is I'm trying to come up
> with some kind of pagination system. I'm probably trying to
> re-invent the wheel -- badly.
>
> It's a simple membership list, with a few hundred records. Only
> want to show 30 on the page at a time. I wonder if anyone has a
> LC sample for doing that. I tried Ralph Bitter's Revigniter but
> just can't wrap my head around it.
>
> Using MySQL for testing, so could try to figure out using the
> CURSOR feature. But know nothing about avoiding injection
> attacks, so may fall back to using  a .csv for the datafile. I've
> done that for all my other projects
>
> Anyway, thanks for the info; no global variables, but file saves
> look like they'll work!
>
> Tim
>
> On 2022.08.12 21:26, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
> > Hi Tim,
> >
> > does the variable have a user specific value or a value, that changes
> from time to time, but is the same for all users?
> >
> > I've done something some time ago and used a text file on the server
> which stored that value. In my case the value was not user specific so it
> was an easy task.
> >
> >
> > If the variable is user specific, why don't you use a  cookies for that?
> That will grant that the value is available  at all pages in the same
> domain.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Matthias
> >
> >
> >> Am 12.08.2022 um 13:27 schrieb Tim Selander via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> >>
> >> As always, appreciate everyone's help.
> >>
> >> Have made several little projects using LC Server on the on-rev.com
> host. For the first time, I would like a global variable -- that is a
> variable that would retain it's value even if the page is re-loaded. Or if
> a user goes to another .lc page/file in the domain.
> >>
> >> All my playing around, and Googling around, has been for nought. Is
> there a way to hang on to a bit of data was you move around pages in the
> same domain?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Tim Selander
> >> Tokyo, Japan
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Re: Is syntax a dead issue?

2022-07-25 Thread Jacques Clavel via use-livecode
just curious : what about using LCB for the repeat loop ?

jc

Le lun. 25 juil. 2022 à 08:44, Geoff Canyon via use-livecode <
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> As a meta point, I wrote a version closer to the actual requirements --
> lowercase everything, process an external input line by line to allow for
> arbitrary input size. The result is about 8-10x slower than most other
> languages -- not as bad as I feared, not as good as I hoped. Here's the
> code for that version:
>
> on mouseUp
>answer file "choose input:"
>if it is empty then exit mouseUp
>put it into F
>lock screen
>put the long seconds into T
>open file F for read
>repeat
>   read from file F for 1 line
>   repeat for each word w in toLower(it)
>  add 1 to R[w]
>   end repeat
>   if the result is not empty then exit repeat
>end repeat
>combine R using cr and tab
>sort R numeric descending by word 2 of each
>put the long seconds - T into T1
>put R into fld "output"
>put the long seconds - T into T2
>put T1 && T2
>close file F
> end mouseUp
>
> On Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 11:01 PM Geoff Canyon  wrote:
>
> > On this Hacker News thread <
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32214419>,
> > I read this programming interview question
> > <https://benhoyt.com/writings/count-words/>. Roughly, the challenge is
> to
> > count the frequency of words in input, and return a list with counts,
> > sorted from most to least frequent. So input like this:
> >
> > The foo the foo the
> > defenestration the
> >
> > would produce output like this:
> >
> > the 4
> > foo 2
> > defenestration 1
> >
> > Of course I smiled because LC is literally built for this problem. I took
> > well under two minutes to write this function:
> >
> > function wordCount X
> >repeat for each word w in X
> >   add 1 to R[w]
> >end repeat
> >combine R using cr and tab
> >sort R numeric descending by word 2 of each
> >return R
> > end wordCount
> >
> > There are quibbles -- the examples given in the article work line by
> line,
> > so input size isn't an issue, and of course quotes would cause an issue,
> > and LC is case insensitive, so it works, but the output would look like
> > this:
> >
> > The 4
> > foo 2
> > defenestration 1
> >
> > But generally, it works, and is super-easy to code. But for the sake of
> > argument, consider this Python solution given:
> >
> > counts = collections.Counter()
> > for line in sys.stdin:
> > words = line.lower().split()
> > counts.update(words)
> >
> > for word, count in counts.most_common():
> > print(word, count)
> >
> > That requires a library, but it's also super-easy to code and understand,
> > and it requires just the same number of lines. So, daydreaming extensions
> > to LC syntax, this comes to mind:
> >
> > function wordCount X
> >add 1 to R[w]  for each word w in X
> >return R combined using cr and tab and sorted numeric descending by
> > word 2 of each
> > end wordCount
> >
> > or if you prefer:
> >
> > function wordCount X
> >for each word w in X add 1 to R[w]
> >return (R combined using cr and tab) sorted numeric descending by word
> > 2 of each
> > end wordCount
> >
> > Or to really apply ourselves:
> >
> > function wordCount X
> >return the count of each word in X using cr and tab sorted numeric
> > descending by word 2 of each
> > end wordCount
> >
> > So: the xTalk syntax is over thirty years old; when was the last
> > significant syntax update?
> >
> > (I'm not at all core to the process, so feel free to tell me how much
> I've
> > missed lately!)
> >
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Re: [FR] Message de gestion : suppression de la liste livecodefr

2019-03-03 Thread Jacques Clavel via use-livecode
OK pas de problème
Jacques Clavel

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> Hi!
>
> This message to warn french speaking users of "livecodefr" list
>
> ===
>
> Bonjour !
>
>
> De part mes pouvoirs de modérateur de la liste revolutionfr sur Yahoo
> ;-)
>
>  j'ai demandé « l'effacement » (comme ils disent) de cette liste.
>
> Cette liste était complètement inactive depuis un long moment
> — mais il y avait encore des personnes qui s'inscrivaient !
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> Suppression définitive dans 15 jours.
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Re: [OT] The Internet is Living on Borrowed Time

2017-12-02 Thread Jacques Clavel via use-livecode
Very interesting.
Thanks Andre to share this link.
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2017-12-02 2:07 GMT+01:00 Andre Garzia via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:

> Hey,
>
> A friend of mine gave a talk at BrazilJS entitled "the end of the web", be
> aware that BrazilJS is the largest Javascript conference in the world, so
> this is quite a spotlight (I gave a talk there this year too). He later
> posted an article with same content in English at
> https://staltz.com/the-web-began-dying-in-2014-heres-how.html
>
> This might interest you. Many developers, me included, are looking at
> decentralized solutions like SecureScuttlebutt and DAT.
>
> Cheers
>
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Bob,
> >
> > > Well it must be true. It was on the internet.
> >
> > Funny enough, we are on the Internet, too. :-D
> > Staying outside the looping groundhog day!
> > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107048/
> >
> > Jokes aside, I have to pause for a while to catch up
> > with pending projects and new ideas.
> > Too much to do and too little time.
> >
> > Al
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 7:34 PM, Alejandro Tejada
> > <capellan2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > This is Bryan Lunduke's today advice about the Internet:
> > >
> > > "Use the Internet for what it's good for.
> > > Enjoy it. Plan for it not existing"
> > >
> > > http://lunduke.com/2017/11/28/the-internet-is-living-on-borrowed-time/
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VD_pJOFnZ0
> > >
> > > Recently, I asked a similar question in slashdot:
> > > https://ask.slashdot.org/story/17/11/13/2319243/ask-slashdot-which-
> > softwaredevices-are-unusable-without-connecting-to-the-internet/
> > >
> > > Surprisingly, most slashdot answers suggests that too many developers
> > > actually are resigned to live in this brave new world of software and
> > devices
> > > that stubbornly and needlessly requires 24/7 internet access to keep
> > working. :-(
> > >
> > > Al
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Re: disabled on 10/28 for bounces--to gmail???

2016-11-17 Thread Jacques Clavel
Thanks Bob,

The problem is that all seems to be normal for me, no problem at all, I
just received an email (the third) from use-livecode-request which says
(see below). I re-enabled my membership by using the first link and I
received again the messages from the list.
Can I do something to help to solve the problem?

Content of the mail :
Your membership in the mailing list use-livecode has been disabled due
to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
17-Nov-2016.  You will not get any more messages from this list until
you re-enable your membership.  You will receive 3 more reminders like
this before your membership in the list is deleted.

To re-enable your membership, you can simply respond to this message
(leaving the Subject: line intact), or visit the confirmation page at

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<http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/confirm/use-livecode/f17a8c7b29616ab1770a68302098eef8a18fc6ea>blablabla...
(more hex chars)


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2016-11-17 16:55 GMT+01:00 Bob Sneidar <bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com>:

> Possibly because someone is using your email address in a forged header to
> send spam to others and your address is the one that has been reported and
> blocked in spam filters everywhere. Without seeing the initial bounce
> messages, no one can tell. Do you have one of those? I can look at it for
> you.
>
> Bob S
>
>
> On Nov 16, 2016, at 22:19 , Jacques Clavel <jacques.cla...@gmail.com<
> mailto:jacques.cla...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I don't understand why I was disabled for the third time from the list and
> received this message "excessive bounces" as I haven't sent message to the
> list since two years at least (but I read all posts).
>
> Jacques Clavel
>
> 2016-11-04 2:51 GMT+01:00 J. Landman Gay <jac...@hyperactivesw.com jac...@hyperactivesw.com>>:
>
> And this is a test post because the one I sent hours ago never showed up.
>
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com jac...@hyperactivesw.com>
> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ttp://www.hyperactivesw.com/>
>
>
>
>
> On November 3, 2016 8:24:49 PM Mike Kerner <mikeker...@roadrunner.com<
> mailto:mikeker...@roadrunner.com>>
> wrote:
>
> I just had that happen, again - second time in a week.
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Re: disabled on 10/28 for bounces--to gmail???

2016-11-16 Thread Jacques Clavel
I don't understand why I was disabled for the third time from the list and
received this message "excessive bounces" as I haven't sent message to the
list since two years at least (but I read all posts).

Jacques Clavel

2016-11-04 2:51 GMT+01:00 J. Landman Gay <jac...@hyperactivesw.com>:

> And this is a test post because the one I sent hours ago never showed up.
>
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>
>
>
>
> On November 3, 2016 8:24:49 PM Mike Kerner <mikeker...@roadrunner.com>
> wrote:
>
> I just had that happen, again - second time in a week.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Bob Sneidar <bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> OK, that being said, my spam filter is reporting fairly regularly that
>>> certain use list accounts have been quarantined for spam. This can happen
>>> if someone gets ahold of your email address, then uses it in a spoofed
>>> header to distribute spam. Alternately, some people also actually *do*
>>> send
>>> spam from their own account by adding WAY to dam many email addresses in
>>> the TO: or CC: fields. This is not the way to do this. Use the :BCC field
>>> for large numbers of email addresses, and even then, if you have that
>>> many
>>> addresses, use a list server instead.
>>>
>>> Bob S
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Nov 3, 2016, at 11:31 , Dr. Hawkins <doch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Did anyone else get de-subscribed recently?
>>> >
>>> > I got an email, that got filtered to promotions, that I was
>>> unsubscribed
>>> on
>>> > 10/28 due to excessive bounces--but this is a gmail account.
>>> >
>>> > And what's the best way to sift through a few days of archives?
>>> >
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-07-07 Thread Jacques Clavel
What do you care what other people think" both by Ralph Leighton.
>
> I don't care if you're not into science - you won't put them down they are
> that  good (How to pick up Women and Crack safes - and the Space Shuttle
>  Challenger story).
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOzoLdfWyKw
>
>
> On 7 July 2016 at 10:11, Richmond <richmondmathew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It is amazing how many "wise" sayings are attributed to many "Wise"
> > people: Voltaire and Einstein included. This, I believe, is a human
> > tendency to seek authority to their ideas by ascribing them to
> > authority figures: like religious (and 'religious') people ascribing
> > everything wise to their scripture.
> >
> > R.
> >
> > On 7.07.2016 11:09, Jacques Clavel wrote:
> >
> >> Mark wrote :
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *At any rate, the quote is variously ascribed to Einstein and to
> Benjamin
> >> Franklin, but probably originated with Voltaire:Lorsque l'on effectue
> une
> >> action, atteint un mauvais résultat, puis répète l'action plusieurs fois
> >> attendent un meilleur résultat, on est un peu fou de singe, non? --
> >> Réflexions sur la jonque*
> >>
> >> I have found the Wikiquote english site, which says that...
> >> But this quote is not a correct sentence in french. Correct sentence
> would
> >> be :
> >> "Lorsque l'on effectue une action, atteint un mauvais résultat, puis
> >> répète
> >> l'action plusieurs fois *en attendant* un meilleur résultat, on est un
> peu
> >> fou de *recommencer*, non?"
> >>
> >> And I have not found "Réflexion sur la Jonque" in the list of the text
> >> from
> >> Voltaire. Perhaps it exists, but I have not found it.
> >> Ah the Web data source...
> >>
> >> 2016-07-07 3:40 GMT+02:00 Mark Wieder <mwie...@ahsoftware.net>:
> >>
> >> On 07/06/2016 10:44 AM, Richmond wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Not true; Albert Einstein [The man who knew a lot about Physics and
> >>>> Maths and not much else and
> >>>>
> >>>> Best to stick to things you know something about, yes?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> At any rate, the quote is variously ascribed to Einstein and to
> Benjamin
> >>> Franklin, but probably originated with Voltaire:
> >>>
> >>> Lorsque l'on effectue une action, atteint un mauvais résultat, puis
> >>> répète
> >>> l'action plusieurs fois attendent un meilleur résultat, on est un peu
> fou
> >>> de singe, non?
> >>>
> >>>   -- Réflexions sur la jonque
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>   Mark Wieder
> >>>   ahsoftw...@gmail.com
> >>>
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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-07-07 Thread Jacques Clavel
Mark wrote :





*At any rate, the quote is variously ascribed to Einstein and to Benjamin
Franklin, but probably originated with Voltaire:Lorsque l'on effectue une
action, atteint un mauvais résultat, puis répète l'action plusieurs fois
attendent un meilleur résultat, on est un peu fou de singe, non? --
Réflexions sur la jonque*

I have found the Wikiquote english site, which says that...
But this quote is not a correct sentence in french. Correct sentence would
be :
"Lorsque l'on effectue une action, atteint un mauvais résultat, puis répète
l'action plusieurs fois *en attendant* un meilleur résultat, on est un peu
fou de *recommencer*, non?"

And I have not found "Réflexion sur la Jonque" in the list of the text from
Voltaire. Perhaps it exists, but I have not found it.
Ah the Web data source...

2016-07-07 3:40 GMT+02:00 Mark Wieder <mwie...@ahsoftware.net>:

> On 07/06/2016 10:44 AM, Richmond wrote:
>
>> Not true; Albert Einstein [The man who knew a lot about Physics and
>> Maths and not much else and
>>
>
> Best to stick to things you know something about, yes?
>
>
> At any rate, the quote is variously ascribed to Einstein and to Benjamin
> Franklin, but probably originated with Voltaire:
>
> Lorsque l'on effectue une action, atteint un mauvais résultat, puis répète
> l'action plusieurs fois attendent un meilleur résultat, on est un peu fou
> de singe, non?
>
>  -- Réflexions sur la jonque
>
> --
>  Mark Wieder
>  ahsoftw...@gmail.com
>
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Re: We're Funding LiveCode For the Web

2014-07-02 Thread jacques CLAVEL
I have posted a message about the campaign bring HTML5 to LiveCode on the
forum of the French site 01net (forum: Logiciels/developpement)
http://www.01net.com/

Jacques


2014-07-02 18:59 GMT+02:00 Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com:

 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Mark Wilcox m...@sorcery-ltd.co.uk
 wrote:

  It's running in the browser, with the LiveCode engine compiled to
  JavaScript. Compiling SQLite to JavaScript and running it locally in the
  browser is not a great option - how will you reliably persist the data
  and keep decent performance? Not that there aren't JavaScript based DB
  solutions that use local file storage.
 

 Actually, all I need is the in-memory db, and for a fairly small database
 at that.  Performancewise, however, I need that data locally.  Changing one
 item can result in the need to reference dozens of others to recalculate,
 its dependent values.




 
  Sadly the web standards folks messed up here. Web SQL was effectively
  killed because Mozilla and Microsoft refused to implement it. IndexedDB
  looks like the option that everyone eventually agreed on but it's not
  implemented everywhere yet. I suspect it will be fairly widespread by
  the time the HTML5 deployment option is complete though...
 

 I don't need any *particular* database, but I do need to be able to use
 revDataFromQuery().  I initially implented value storage with my getVal()
 and setVal() to use an array, but there are too many different ways I
 access particular data types; to use anything other than a (light) database
 means custom loops through everything for each type of WHERE that I use.
 If there were an array type that could access the same data from different
 independent indices, that *could* work, but I think we'd call that array a
 database :)

 As things get set and calculated and changed, a db row gives me a nice way
 to access by any of these.  Without it, I'd have to manually set everything
 in additional arrays just to keep track of things, which is an army of bugs
 waiting to be sprayed . . .

 Also, my db need is *very* simple.  I use a few UNION just to turn things
 into a single access, and some compound WHERE, but no JOIN, related tables,
 and whatnot.
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Re: iOS dev on older Mac?

2014-03-26 Thread jacques CLAVEL
Richmond,

Après moi le déluge.

Jacques Clavel


2014-03-26 7:49 GMT+01:00 Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com:


 On 03/25/2014 11:26 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:21 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com
 wrote:

  You'll need Mavericks and XCode 5.1 to submit to the App Store. iOS 7
 requires it.


 I am really starting to hate Mavericks. I've never seen so many bugs and
 stupid UI tricks on the Mac. And I'm not even attempting to do iOS stuff
 right now.


 Well; Steve Jobs is no longer with us, and, whether you liked him or not
 (personally I didn't),
 he was the man, Mr Apple, the man with the vision; and 'apres moi la
 deluge'.

 Richmond.


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Re: Chained Behaviors

2013-07-12 Thread Jacques CLAVEL
John,

in my opinion, behaviors is simplicity. You don't have to deal with the name of 
the buttons (for example), just use me. It is completely on the road of a 
xTalk language. Same things for nested behaviors.

Jacques Clavell


Le 12 juil. 2013 à 20:48, John Dixon dixo...@hotmail.co.uk a écrit :

 
 
 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 10:58:29 -0700
 From: ambassa...@fourthworld.com
 To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
 Subject: Re: Chained Behaviors
 
 Nested behaviors simply extend the value of such a mechanism, at long 
 last giving xTalk one of the most valuable aspects of OOP:  subclasses.
 
 Richard...
 
 I hear what you say, but does an xTalk language need to go down this road 
 ?... or to perhaps put a direct way... Should an xTalk language be going down 
 this road ?... What I am worried about is that there are a lot of people 
 jumping on the 'open source' bandwagon... wanting to change things for what 
 they see as improvement whilst completely forgetting that it is simplicity 
 not complexity that has got xTalk where it is today...


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Re: I'm in

2013-02-23 Thread jacques CLAVEL
60%!

2013/2/23 Mark Smith mark_sm...@cpe.umanitoba.ca

 Colin Holgate-2 wrote
  I'm checking the page every few minutes (or more exactly, a LiveCode
  application is doing that for me). One of the things I have it show me is
  the change in the total figure. So, each time the total changes I know by
  how much.

 Clever!



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Re: £150k

2013-02-21 Thread jacques CLAVEL
50%.

2013/2/20 Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net

 Keeps moving along. At 43.03% now.

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Re: Translation s'il vous plait/por favor :-)

2012-03-24 Thread jacques CLAVEL
Francis,

There are a lot of french in the list!

Y am not fluent in English, and if I need to translate a sentence from
French to English, I'll ask to the list.
And Ill very happy if you help me.

Jacques Clavel

2012/3/23 Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com

 In the words of Google, Telle est la langue.

 Bob


 On Mar 23, 2012, at 6:24 AM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote:

  Hi from Beautiful Brittany,
 
  Klaus, I would hate to be pedantic, but I can't miss
  adding my 2 cents.
 
  Dictionnaries exist to clearly define the meaning
  of a word or phrase in another language. But the
  translations, based upon the etymology of the terms
  in these languages are often betrayed by the personal
  interpretations of the users. If we can try and forget the
  environment of our computer translation (files, folders,
  disk drives, et tutti quanti), we can try to home in on
  best best translation available for a specific language.
 
  The French language (to my knowledge) lacks the
  precise equivalent of the English into (which
  means from the outside of ... to the inside of ...).
  So may we fall into the trap of personal interpretation !
 
  The French a denotes location only, but gives little
  information concerning the direction, and even less
  about the subtleties of inside or outside.
  I find it to be the worst possible translation.
 
  The French dans means in or at best inside,
  and has no implication of the 'into I show above.
  However, I find it a better solution than a.
 
  The French sur implies lying on top of and
  certainly does not imply inside. Much depends on
  the personal interpretation. As a long-standing
  nit-picker I would never use this.
 
  The French vers means in the direction of, which
  I find to be acceptable in the translation you request,
  because it simply skips over the notion inside, (but
  nevertheless implies it (The idea of copying a file to
  the outside of a folder would be nonsense !).
  But then again, this can be personal interpretation.
 
  These comments in no way undermine the scope of the
  French language, which can be so powerful in many areas.
 
  .. et a la fin de l'envoi, je touche .!  (French Fencing term)
 
  -Francis
 
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Re: Translation s'il vous plâit/por favor :-)

2012-03-22 Thread jacques CLAVEL
I agree with Pierre answer.
Examples :

mettez le fichier sur votre bureau
put the file on your desktop

copiez le fichier dans votre dossier
copy the file to (into) your folder

mettez la montre à votre poignet
put the watch on your wrist

Hope this help

Jacques Clavel

2012/3/22 Tim Jones tolis...@me.com

 Pierre, would you mind explaining the tense differences between the three
 options:

à votre
sur votre
dans votre

 It turns out that one of our products has the first two as the text for
 this exact message.  Your option is a third variant and I'm now completely
 confused :-/

 Thanks,
 Tim

 On Mar 22, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote:

  or :
 
  Copiez le fichier mon_fichier dans votre dossier Applications
 

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Re: IMPORTANT: SoCal Meeting CANCELLED

2011-12-02 Thread jacques CLAVEL
Pierre,

Pour info : just on the other side of the Gave there is a town called :
Billère. Do you know?


2011/12/2 Pierre Sahores s...@sahores-conseil.com

 Same there in France, as long as i know... Do i mistake Kevin ?

 Le 2 déc. 2011 à 16:53, Andre Garzia a écrit :

  Where are they??? I would welcome some company here! I would set up a
 group
  here if we had something like 4 or 5 guys/gals.

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Re: [OT] Excessive Wireless Traffic from iPhone running iOS5

2011-11-04 Thread jacques CLAVEL
BigBrother is watching you! Your IPhone is sending to Apple the
localisation data recorded by your phone the previous days. This happens
only when you have WIFI access.

Jacques Clavel

2011/11/3 Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com

 A couple of weeks ago, I noticed an occasional  huge slowdown in internet
 access from home.  Whenever this occurred, it was obvious from the lights
 on my wireless router that a huge amount of wireless traffic was happening.

 In true old-fashioned trouble shooting mode, I tried to figure out what
 might have changed in any computer setups in my home.  The only thing that
 I could come up with was that my wife upgraded her iPhone to ios5 round
 about the time this started happening.

 From the circumstances, I believe this is happening when the iPhone is
 syncing wirelessly with iTunes on my wife's Mac laptop.  That only happens
 over WiFi and when the phone is charging, both of which are the case when
 this wireless traffic problem occurs.  I verified this by switching off
 WiFi on the iuPhone last time this happened and sure enough, the wireless
 traffic stopped.

 Have any of you iPhone users experienced anything similar to this?
  Obviously there has to be WiFi traffic for the iPhone to sync, but there
 isn't that much data on my wife's iPhone so I'm not understanding the
 extreme wireless activity.

 Meantime my Android phone has been wireless syncing perfectly for
 months.

 Pete
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Re: Password protecting a stack in the distribution

2011-09-12 Thread jacques CLAVEL
Same problem here trying to encrypt my library (to be used on on-Rev
server). Livecode 4,6,3 on Mac (4,6,4 not tested now).
My problem is now solved (see second try) but the workflow is not
straightforward.

First try (does'nt work:
- Main stack (splash screen) and my library (start using as it does).
- standalone app settings:
  - main stack: encrypt with password
  - add stack file: my library, encrypt with password
  - Result: no encryption of my library (found in the pack -
contents/MacOs/myLib.livecode

Second try (was successful):
- Main stack and myLib as substack
- standalone app settings:
  - main stack:
- check move substack into individual stackfiles
- create folder for this stack (jc)
  -  encrypt with password (for both main stack and myLib)
  - Result: nin the folder found in the pack - contents/MacOs/jc there
is a file myLib.rev (rev???) which is encrypted (to verify:
open myLib.rev with TextEdit, or open a script in Livecode).

Why is it so tortuous to only encrypt a library?

Jacques


2011/9/11 Andrew Henshaw hens...@me.com

 Hi,

 Im wondering if anyone can shed some light on the best way to do this!

 I have built a library stack which Im including in the distribution and
 selected the 'encrypt with password' option for both the main stack,  and
 this library stack,  however when I compile if I go into the package the
 .rev file is there with clear text contents,  totally readable.

 Ive also tried using the set the password of this stack to mypassword and
 then saved the stack and re-loaded it and that does encrypt the original
 stack and ask for a password before I can edit it,  but for some reason when
 I compile again the stack is put into the distribution in clear text again.

 Any ideas or other ways of doing this?

 Andy
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Re: [Server] create stack trouble

2011-08-09 Thread jacques CLAVEL
I agree, Pierre,

Nice job from RunRev guys. Now the On-Rev client has to be updated, and all
will be perfect.

Jacques

2011/8/9 Pierre Sahores s...@sahores-conseil.com

 Hi Björnke,

 The main goal of using the server's stack component is to let us store our
 code as password protected libraries instead of storing it in unprotected
 flat text .irev components. This server's stack component is useful each
 time we need to install our LC-server solutions on clients servers on a
 license basis contract.

 In this sense, the server's stack component fits all the n-tier development
 expectable needs and, from my point of view at least, RunRev did a 100%
 perfect work in realizing it. We are now able to deliver our solutions in
 the same ways Java or Zend developers are doing with their own protected
 libs. I have to add that this new component works 100% fine in any situation
 my apps needs to address and that RunRev need to be warmly thanks for all
 the great opportunities that we become able to cover in using it.

 More : on Posix platforms at least, our .lc+.livecode driven server's apps
 are running in multi-thread mode under the control of the underlying OS +
 Apache CGI gateway components. As we would say there in southern Europe :
 C'est la totale !

 More2 : n-tier development need to be designed with different eyes we use
 to develop desktop apps (and relevant stack's components). LC has yet become
 a perfect development platform in both worlds and we just have to choose the
 right ways to go to get the job done.

 ;D

 Le 9 août 2011 à 15:47, Björnke von Gierke a écrit :

  As someone said why use stacks when you could save your things into text
 files. He's right and actually that makes more sense then using the
 currently available, partially implemented stacks at all

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Re: Any way to show progress while an ON-REV page is processing a script?

2011-08-09 Thread jacques CLAVEL
Bruce,

For a similar application I'm using HttpRequest (JavaScript) in a loop to
send as many requests as lines to process. JavaScript handles the responses
and and fill the list in the browser, no need of progress bar.

http://www.w3schools.com/dom/dom_httprequest.asp

Jacques

2011/8/8 Bruce Pokras bruc...@comcast.net

 Mike,

 Thanks for your reply. The input page has a form into which a user types or
 pastes a list of patents. Upon clicking Submit the form POSTS the list to
 the .lc page for processing. For each patent in the list, the script of the
 .ic page sends a query to a European Patent Office server. The script then
 formats the response from the server for each patent as a row in a table. At
 the end of the processing the table is displayed. For a long list of patents
 this could take a while. So I am looking for some way for the .lc page to
 display the progress of its going through the list.

 Regards,

 Bruce

 On Aug 6, 2011, at 1:58 PM, Michael Kann wrote:

  Bruce,
 
  I'm working on something similar. When you write that you have a list of
 patent numbers processed by a .lc or .irev page do you mean that you are
 going out to fetch the patents each time, or will all the data be on your
 server? The reason I ask is if the data is on your server it might be better
 to attack the user delay in your code, rather than work on a progress bar.
 
  For example, I'm presenting 993 titles of videos; all in a similar
 format, but the whole list is different each time. When I started out it
 took about 6 seconds from button click to the list appearing. After setting
 up a poor man's index and retooling a few loops I've gotten the return trip
 down to about 50 milliseconds -- good enough for government work.
 
  Mike
 
 
  --- On Sat, 8/6/11, Bruce Pokras bruc...@comcast.net wrote:
 
  From: Bruce Pokras bruc...@comcast.net
  Subject: Any way to show progress while an ON-REV page is processing a
 script?
  To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
  Date: Saturday, August 6, 2011, 11:46 AM
 
  I have a form that uses POST to get a list of patent numbers processed by
 a .lc or .irev page. Right now, the whole list has to be processed before
 the user sees that anything has happened. In my case, once all the patent
 numbers have been processed, the user will see a page of tables with
 information about each patent. In my revlet version of this process, it was
 easy to have a field display the progress of the processing with 1 of 20, 2
 of 20, 3 of 20, etc. being displayed in a field as the processing of each
 patent took place.
 
  Is there any way to display a progress indicator while the .lc or .irev
 page is processing the patent numbers? I have tried a couple of things, such
 as having a separate put command for each patent, but nothing is displayed
 until all of the patents have been processed.
 
  Regards,
 
  Bruce Pokras
  Blazing Dawn Software
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