Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.7 RC-3
Mark, Thank you for the detailed explanation. Overall the current strategy appears sound. I took a look at Apple's developer info on this topic today and they state: "Slicing is the process of creating and delivering variants of the app bundle for different target devices. A variant contains only the executable architecture and resources that are needed for the target device. You continue to develop and upload full versions of your app to iTunes Connect. The App Store will create and deliver different variants based on the devices your app supports. Xcode simulates slicing during development so you can create and test variants locally. Xcode slices your app when you build and run your app on a device or in Simulator." I compared the size of my iOS app directly installed onto an iPhone 6S (iOS 11, set to run on iOS 10.3 or later) using Xcode 9.0 - with 64 bit slice only (8.1.7 RC-2) and with both 64 bit and 32 bit slices (8.1.7 RC-3). The universal binary on the phone is approximately twice as large as the 64 bit version. I have not found any way to check app size in the simulator. Henry -- Sent from: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.7 RC-3
On 2017-10-06 06:57, hlowe via use-livecode wrote: As Apple no longer supports running 32 bit apps under iOS 11, would it be possible to make including a 32 bit slice optional, as defaulting to universal binaries almost doubles the size of the app bundle (my app went from 18 MB when built with LC 8.1.7 RC-2 to 31 MB when built with LC 8.1.7 RC-3. Ideally in iOS Application Settings one could choice from : (1) Build universal binary; (2) Build 64 bit binary only; (3) Build 32 bit binary only. I believe the iTunes store automatically removes unnecessary slices from apps *before* they get downloaded onto a user's phone (and I wouldn't be surprised if this also happens when transferring the app locally through Xcode / iTunes - although this is somewhat difficult to check without a rooted iOS device!). The current situation from the S/B's point of view is this: 1) If the min iOS version in the S/B is set to iOS 11, then only a 64-bit slice will be included and it will only work on devices which have iOS 11 2) If the '32-bit only' checkbox is set, then the S/B will only include a 32-bit slice - this is to support iPad 1 (it was added to support a few customers who were having to support iPad 1's in their apps after Apple added the 64-bit option - we're not sure if anyone is still using it which is why it is still there). 3) Otherwise the S/B will include a 32-bit and 64-bit slice. This means that the app can run on devices older than the iPhone 5s (which was the first to run in 64-bit mode). The reason the 32-bit slice is still needed is that the (32-bit only) iPhone 5 and iPhone 5C can run up to iOS 10 - so *not* including it would exclude those devices from being able to use your app. To rephrase (for clarity) - the slices required in an iOS app are determined by the min iOS version you have set in the S/B with the remit of supporting as many devices as possible. So the question is whether we actually need an explicit toggle - or whether it is better for the S/B to just do the right thing (as it does at the moment) based on iOS target version... Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.7 RC-3
As Apple no longer supports running 32 bit apps under iOS 11, would it be possible to make including a 32 bit slice optional, as defaulting to universal binaries almost doubles the size of the app bundle (my app went from 18 MB when built with LC 8.1.7 RC-2 to 31 MB when built with LC 8.1.7 RC-3. Ideally in iOS Application Settings one could choice from : (1) Build universal binary; (2) Build 64 bit binary only; (3) Build 32 bit binary only. Henry -- Sent from: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.7 RC-3
Hehe, this is because the issue was discovered suspiciously fast :) Best, Panos -- PS this issue affected only people who are on Sierra or High Sierra and build iOS apps using xcode 9 On Oct 5, 2017 17:44, "Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode" < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > That was suspiciously quick. > > Richmond. > > On 10/5/17 6:35 pm, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: > >> Dear list members, >> >> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-3. >> >> Getting the Release >> === >> You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or >> via >> the automatic updater. >> >> >> Release Contents >> >> >> LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-3 contains an important change: >> >> Using Xcode 9 for building iOS standalones in LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-3 now >> creates a universal binary, i.e. the binary contains both a 32bit slice >> and >> a 64bit slice. This means that you can install it in older Apple devices >> that have a 32bit chip (and thus require the app to have a 32bit slice), >> such as iPhone 5, iPhone 5c and 4th gen iPad. >> >> This was not possible in LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-2. >> >> >> Feedback >> >> Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at >> http://quality.livecode.com/ >> >> >> Have fun! >> The LiveCode Team >> -- >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.7 RC-3
That was suspiciously quick. Richmond. On 10/5/17 6:35 pm, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-3. Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via the automatic updater. Release Contents LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-3 contains an important change: Using Xcode 9 for building iOS standalones in LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-3 now creates a universal binary, i.e. the binary contains both a 32bit slice and a 64bit slice. This means that you can install it in older Apple devices that have a 32bit chip (and thus require the app to have a 32bit slice), such as iPhone 5, iPhone 5c and 4th gen iPad. This was not possible in LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-2. Feedback Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at http://quality.livecode.com/ Have fun! The LiveCode Team -- ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[ANN] Release 8.1.7 RC-3
Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-3. Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via the automatic updater. Release Contents LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-3 contains an important change: Using Xcode 9 for building iOS standalones in LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-3 now creates a universal binary, i.e. the binary contains both a 32bit slice and a 64bit slice. This means that you can install it in older Apple devices that have a 32bit chip (and thus require the app to have a 32bit slice), such as iPhone 5, iPhone 5c and 4th gen iPad. This was not possible in LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-2. Feedback Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at http://quality.livecode.com/ Have fun! The LiveCode Team -- ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
