Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship
I think that Oracle Media Objects was based on the Plus code, which also had its own life as a Windows only tool. I programmed a 12 CD-ROM series in OMO, though we didn’t get around doing the last two. You can still buy those CD-ROMs, but I think thy wouldn’t work on a modern OS: https://www.amazon.com/Our-Secret-Century-Archival-Marketers/dp/155940/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1497473493&sr=1-3 > On Jun 13, 2017, at 5:04 PM, james--- via use-livecode > wrote: > > Goodness, I am not sure if it is a good idea to remember (sequence may be > off.) > > HyperCard > Supercard > Director > IShell (as well as the Apple technology it was based on, but whose name I > forget..) > Oracle Media Objects > Metropolis (I really like this) > Meta card > Revolution > .long sojourn "silver surfing" into the land of 4D > LiveCode > > James > >> On 13 Jun 2017, at 08:03, Jeff Reynolds via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> Sigh, me too I guess. I now see how long it has been (40 years) thinking >> back... >> >> HyperCard >> Supercard >> Plus >> Oracle Media Objects >> Toolbook >> MetaCard >> Revolution >> Livecode >> >> Jeff > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship
Goodness, I am not sure if it is a good idea to remember (sequence may be off.) HyperCard Supercard Director IShell (as well as the Apple technology it was based on, but whose name I forget..) Oracle Media Objects Metropolis (I really like this) Meta card Revolution .long sojourn "silver surfing" into the land of 4D LiveCode James > On 13 Jun 2017, at 08:03, Jeff Reynolds via use-livecode > wrote: > > Sigh, me too I guess. I now see how long it has been (40 years) thinking > back... > > HyperCard > Supercard > Plus > Oracle Media Objects > Toolbook > MetaCard > Revolution > Livecode > > Jeff ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship
The most important thing is your message is "I remember teaching myself" . . . LiveCode should be banging on about this endlessly; I am trying to teach myself C# and getting thoroughly bogged down. I am also gently teaching myself HyperNext, and because that is Object-based like Hypercard and LiveCode it is pretty painless. HyperNext is an effort put together by one person, and as such is both amazing as a one-person job and considerably inferior to LiveCode for the same reason. Admittedly I did teach myself PASCAL in 1984 (mainly because I really couldn't even begin to understand what the lecturers in the Maths department were talking about): but, having got through that when I "found" Hypercard (1993) the whole thing was far less painful. LiveCode is quite modular (if one thinks of controls as modules) and as such one can build up from simples to very complicated stuff (c.f. LEGO) relatively easily and quickly. Richmond. On 6/13/17 6:31 pm, Graham Samuel via use-livecode wrote: Ditto… I remember teaching myself HyperCard scripting by writing a speaking clock. Wonder what happened to that bit of code? Good that we’re still here though. Graham On 13 Jun 2017, at 08:03, Jeff Reynolds via use-livecode wrote: Sigh, me too I guess. I now see how long it has been (40 years) thinking back... HyperCard Supercard Plus Oracle Media Objects Toolbook MetaCard Revolution Livecode Jeff Me too. Bob S On Jun 9, 2017, at 11:43 , Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: If we're counting HC, I've been "there" longer than Kevin. :) And so have several others on this list. If that counts, I'm day 1 . . . ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship
Ditto… I remember teaching myself HyperCard scripting by writing a speaking clock. Wonder what happened to that bit of code? Good that we’re still here though. Graham > On 13 Jun 2017, at 08:03, Jeff Reynolds via use-livecode > wrote: > > Sigh, me too I guess. I now see how long it has been (40 years) thinking > back... > > HyperCard > Supercard > Plus > Oracle Media Objects > Toolbook > MetaCard > Revolution > Livecode > > Jeff > >> Me too. >> >> Bob S >> >> On Jun 9, 2017, at 11:43 , Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: If we're counting HC, I've been "there" longer than Kevin. :) And so have several others on this list. >>> >>> If that counts, I'm day 1 . . . >> > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship
Sigh, me too I guess. I now see how long it has been (40 years) thinking back... HyperCard Supercard Plus Oracle Media Objects Toolbook MetaCard Revolution Livecode Jeff > Me too. > > Bob S > > >>> On Jun 9, 2017, at 11:43 , Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode >>> wrote: >>> >>> If we're counting HC, I've been "there" longer than Kevin. :) And so have >>> several others on this list. >> >> If that counts, I'm day 1 . . . > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
Me too. Bob S > On Jun 9, 2017, at 11:43 , Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode > wrote: > >> If we're counting HC, I've been "there" longer than Kevin. :) And so have >> several others on this list. >> > > If that counts, I'm day 1 . . . ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 11:26 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > If we're counting HC, I've been "there" longer than Kevin. :) And so have > several others on this list. > If that counts, I'm day 1 . . . At times, I wonder about what would happened if I asked SuperCard for an upgrade . . . to my version 1.5 disks . . . And if SuperCard had leaked that the PC version was coming, I wouldn't have abandoned my project 25 years ago, and would probably be the largest player in bankruptcy software today . . . *sigh* -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:13 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Ah, but you've forgotten Elanor who's been there almost as long as > Heather. She's my placeholder. But she didn't jump in about surviving . . . -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
I discovered HC in 1993, and MC and RR/LC simultaneously in 2001; having experienced a traumatic hiatus with Toolbook! Richmond. On 6/9/17 9:26 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: If we're counting HC, I've been "there" longer than Kevin. :) And so have several others on this list. We won't discuss your calculations. My time warp stack makes those moot anyway. On 6/9/17 12:44 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: And, according to my calculations, you, Jacque have been "there" far longer than Heather if Hypercard is still a location. Richmond. On 6/9/17 8:13 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: On June 9, 2017 11:17:13 AM "Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode" wrote: On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 6:33 AM, dunbarx via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: And gals. No, so far no gals. Jacque & company aren't keeping up their end :) Ah, but you've forgotten Elanor who's been there almost as long as Heather. She's my placeholder. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
If we're counting HC, I've been "there" longer than Kevin. :) And so have several others on this list. We won't discuss your calculations. My time warp stack makes those moot anyway. On 6/9/17 12:44 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: And, according to my calculations, you, Jacque have been "there" far longer than Heather if Hypercard is still a location. Richmond. On 6/9/17 8:13 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: On June 9, 2017 11:17:13 AM "Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode" wrote: On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 6:33 AM, dunbarx via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: And gals. No, so far no gals. Jacque & company aren't keeping up their end :) Ah, but you've forgotten Elanor who's been there almost as long as Heather. She's my placeholder. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
And, according to my calculations, you, Jacque have been "there" far longer than Heather if Hypercard is still a location. Richmond. On 6/9/17 8:13 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: On June 9, 2017 11:17:13 AM "Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode" wrote: On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 6:33 AM, dunbarx via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: And gals. No, so far no gals. Jacque & company aren't keeping up their end :) Ah, but you've forgotten Elanor who's been there almost as long as Heather. She's my placeholder. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
On June 9, 2017 11:17:13 AM "Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode" wrote: On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 6:33 AM, dunbarx via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: And gals. No, so far no gals. Jacque & company aren't keeping up their end :) Ah, but you've forgotten Elanor who's been there almost as long as Heather. She's my placeholder. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 6:33 AM, dunbarx via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > And gals. > No, so far no gals. Jacque & company aren't keeping up their end :) -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
On 06/09/2017 07:48 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: sooo... yeah. Probably involves imbibing strong drink. ;-) Well. duh... doesn't everything? -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
sooo... yeah. Probably involves imbibing strong drink. ;-) Bob S > On Jun 9, 2017, at 05:00 , Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 2017-06-07 20:19, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: >> I'm going to guess that is a Scottish colloquialism which involves >> imbibing strong drink. > > Hehe - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilting_at_windmills > > Warmest Regards, > > Mark. > > -- > Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ > LiveCode: Everyone can create apps ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
And gals. Craig -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Ben-Beaumont-jumps-ship-tp4715530p4715643.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
On 2017-06-07 20:19, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: I'm going to guess that is a Scottish colloquialism which involves imbibing strong drink. Hehe - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilting_at_windmills Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
You know, I knew as soon as I'd sent that email I'd used the wrong word there. The use-list guys are going to jump all over this... Nevermind. I confirm I am still alive and so are the other members of the team. No zombies or ghosts here. No N N Heather Laine Customer Services Manager LiveCode Ltd www.livecode.com > On 9 Jun 2017, at 12:40, Martin Koob via use-livecode > wrote: > > I thought the same thing! > > Does this mean that 25a Thistle Street Lane South West should be a stop on > the Edinburgh Ghost Walk? Or the setting of a new Ian Rankin novel? > https://www.ianrankin.net/about/ > > Martin > > > Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote >> OH NO! WHAT DOES "SURVIVING" MEAN???!?!?!?!?! >> >> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Heather Laine via use-livecode < > >> use-livecode@.runrev > >>> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> Warm Regards, >>> >>> Heather >>> (who is now the longest surviving staff member other than Kevin) >>> >>> Heather Laine >>> Customer Services Manager >>> LiveCode Ltd >>> www.livecode.com >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 7 Jun 2017, at 17:00, AndyP via use-livecode < >>> > >> use-livecode@.runrev > >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Worrying in view that Dr Peter Brett recently left as well. >>>> >>>> His twitter post here> >>>> https://twitter.com/PeterTBBrett/status/849958594745438208 >>>> <https://twitter.com/PeterTBBrett/status/849958594745438208>; >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> - >>>> Andy Piddock >>>> >>>> >>>> My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. >>>> >>>> TinyIDE a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode >>>> TinyIDE >>>> >>>> >>>> Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk >>>> >>>> PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour >>> picker / finder. >>>> http://www.pointandsee.co.uk - made with LiveCode >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution. >>> 278305.n4.nabble.com/Ben-Beaumont-jumps-ship-tp4715530p4715537.html >>>> Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> use-livecode mailing list >>>> > >> use-livecode@.runrev > >>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> > >> use-livecode@.runrev > >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth >> On the second day, God created the oceans. >> On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, >> and did a little diving. >> And God said, "This is good." >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list > >> use-livecode@.runrev > >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Ben-Beaumont-jumps-ship-tp4715530p4715639.html > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
I thought the same thing! Does this mean that 25a Thistle Street Lane South West should be a stop on the Edinburgh Ghost Walk? Or the setting of a new Ian Rankin novel? https://www.ianrankin.net/about/ Martin Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote > OH NO! WHAT DOES "SURVIVING" MEAN???!?!?!?!?! > > On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Heather Laine via use-livecode < > use-livecode@.runrev >> wrote: > > >> >> Warm Regards, >> >> Heather >> (who is now the longest surviving staff member other than Kevin) >> >> Heather Laine >> Customer Services Manager >> LiveCode Ltd >> www.livecode.com >> >> >> >> > On 7 Jun 2017, at 17:00, AndyP via use-livecode < >> > use-livecode@.runrev >> wrote: >> > >> > Worrying in view that Dr Peter Brett recently left as well. >> > >> > His twitter post here> >> > https://twitter.com/PeterTBBrett/status/849958594745438208 >> > <https://twitter.com/PeterTBBrett/status/849958594745438208>; >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > - >> > Andy Piddock >> > >> > >> > My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. >> > >> > TinyIDE a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode >> > TinyIDE >> > >> > >> > Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk >> > >> > PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour >> picker / finder. >> > http://www.pointandsee.co.uk - made with LiveCode >> > -- >> > View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution. >> 278305.n4.nabble.com/Ben-Beaumont-jumps-ship-tp4715530p4715537.html >> > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > >> > ___ >> > use-livecode mailing list >> > > use-livecode@.runrev >> > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> > use-livecode@.runrev >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > > > > -- > On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth > On the second day, God created the oceans. > On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, >and did a little diving. > And God said, "This is good." > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@.runrev > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Ben-Beaumont-jumps-ship-tp4715530p4715639.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
AW: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
Congratulations! >> Heather >> (who is now the longest surviving staff member other than Kevin) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
No, turnover is not worrisome; in fact the odd spot of fresh blood is often a good thing. I just felt "funny" discovering things like this through other channels. My plans are modest, but focused on LiveCode 100% . . . and am amzed that LiveCode has both survived and got stronger when one compares it with all the also-rans which have gone to the wall. Richmond. On 6/7/17 9:20 pm, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote: livecode is not going anywhere. not on my watch anyways... my plans for it are huge, and there is no way I am not following through with them. I am immensly grateful for the people devoted to it over at livecode incand if that ever changes and it needs stewardship ...I'll be the first in line. Like Craig said there is something miraculous about itI see it. It was a miracle to my life for sure. Sometimes people want new adventures.. turnover isn't that worrysome. All the best everyone On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 1:39 PM, dunbarx via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: All. This just goes to show two things: 1- How connected the community is to LC and to each other. 2- The extent that community worries about its health. After all, LC is a small company, and that engenders a sense that it is fragile. Many remember HC, which was lost in the shuffle of corporate (and general) indifference. That fear lingers through the inexplicable incapability of the population of the planet to see what a miracle LC is. This exacerbates that sense of fragility. Into the breach! Forward! Craig -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution. 278305.n4.nabble.com/Ben-Beaumont-jumps-ship-tp4715530p4715546.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
Thanks Panos for the link. I'll look a bit harder before putting both feet in! - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. TinyIDE a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode TinyIDE Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour picker / finder. http://www.pointandsee.co.uk - made with LiveCode -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Ben-Beaumont-jumps-ship-tp4715530p4715554.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
livecode is not going anywhere. not on my watch anyways... my plans for it are huge, and there is no way I am not following through with them. I am immensly grateful for the people devoted to it over at livecode incand if that ever changes and it needs stewardship ...I'll be the first in line. Like Craig said there is something miraculous about itI see it. It was a miracle to my life for sure. Sometimes people want new adventures.. turnover isn't that worrysome. All the best everyone On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 1:39 PM, dunbarx via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > All. > > This just goes to show two things: > > 1- How connected the community is to LC and to each other. > > 2- The extent that community worries about its health. After all, LC is a > small company, and that engenders a sense that it is fragile. Many remember > HC, which was lost in the shuffle of corporate (and general) indifference. > That fear lingers through the inexplicable incapability of the population > of > the planet to see what a miracle LC is. > > This exacerbates that sense of fragility. > > Into the breach! Forward! > > Craig > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution. > 278305.n4.nabble.com/Ben-Beaumont-jumps-ship-tp4715530p4715546.html > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
I'm going to guess that is a Scottish colloquialism which involves imbibing strong drink. Bob S > On Jun 7, 2017, at 11:16 , Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > > I think there was a slight case of Richmond indirectly tilting at windmills > (not that I ever do that, oh no, never ;)). > > Warmest Regards, > > Mark. > > -- > Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ > LiveCode: Everyone can create apps ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
On 2017-06-07 19:56, AndyP via use-livecode wrote: Where is this blog post?.just gone to the blog page and cannot see any references to staff changes. It was in TWiL - Alex (one of our new employees) wrote his first blog post last week. I did not mean to be alarmist or provocative but when two highly regarded team members move on in the same month it does raise concerns. They didn't move on in the same month. As Heather said, Ben went part time around 2 years ago, and continues to be. I think there was a slight case of Richmond indirectly tilting at windmills (not that I ever do that, oh no, never ;)). Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
Hi Andy, See https://livecode.github.io/this-week-in-livecode/issue/2017/05/24/this-week-in-livecode-83.html Best, Panos -- On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 6:56 PM, AndyP via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Re > "All the staff changes were discussed in the last blog post. It isn't a > secret. Staff move on and are replaced. " > > Where is this blog post?.just gone to the blog page and cannot see any > references to staff changes. > > I did not mean to be alarmist or provocative but when two highly regarded > team members move on in the same month it does raise concerns. > > Anyway looking forward to news on the new team members. > > > > > > > - > Andy Piddock > > > My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. > > TinyIDE a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode > TinyIDE > > > Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk > > PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour picker > / finder. > http://www.pointandsee.co.uk - made with LiveCode > -- > View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution. > 278305.n4.nabble.com/Ben-Beaumont-jumps-ship-tp4715530p4715548.html > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
Re "All the staff changes were discussed in the last blog post. It isn't a secret. Staff move on and are replaced. " Where is this blog post?.just gone to the blog page and cannot see any references to staff changes. I did not mean to be alarmist or provocative but when two highly regarded team members move on in the same month it does raise concerns. Anyway looking forward to news on the new team members. - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. TinyIDE a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode TinyIDE Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour picker / finder. http://www.pointandsee.co.uk - made with LiveCode -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Ben-Beaumont-jumps-ship-tp4715530p4715548.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
All. This just goes to show two things: 1- How connected the community is to LC and to each other. 2- The extent that community worries about its health. After all, LC is a small company, and that engenders a sense that it is fragile. Many remember HC, which was lost in the shuffle of corporate (and general) indifference. That fear lingers through the inexplicable incapability of the population of the planet to see what a miracle LC is. This exacerbates that sense of fragility. Into the breach! Forward! Craig -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Ben-Beaumont-jumps-ship-tp4715530p4715546.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > OH NO! WHAT DOES "SURVIVING" MEAN???!?!?!?!?! Haven't you ever heard of a "toxic bug"? :) -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
OH NO! WHAT DOES "SURVIVING" MEAN???!?!?!?!?! On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Heather Laine via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hm... lol. Well Ben stayed with us for a good 8 years, and moved on to > spread his wings a couple of years ago. As Mark said, he still works for us > part time. You might even have met him at LiveCode events since he moved on. > > Staff changes happen! Not perhaps all that often at LiveCode, people by > and large seem to like it here and stay, but there is a (moderately) > regular turnover. It's not exactly news. > > Warm Regards, > > Heather > (who is now the longest surviving staff member other than Kevin) > > Heather Laine > Customer Services Manager > LiveCode Ltd > www.livecode.com > > > > > On 7 Jun 2017, at 17:00, AndyP via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > Worrying in view that Dr Peter Brett recently left as well. > > > > His twitter post here> > > https://twitter.com/PeterTBBrett/status/849958594745438208 > > <https://twitter.com/PeterTBBrett/status/849958594745438208> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > Andy Piddock > > > > > > My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. > > > > TinyIDE a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode > > TinyIDE > > > > > > Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk > > > > PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour > picker / finder. > > http://www.pointandsee.co.uk - made with LiveCode > > -- > > View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution. > 278305.n4.nabble.com/Ben-Beaumont-jumps-ship-tp4715530p4715537.html > > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
Hm... lol. Well Ben stayed with us for a good 8 years, and moved on to spread his wings a couple of years ago. As Mark said, he still works for us part time. You might even have met him at LiveCode events since he moved on. Staff changes happen! Not perhaps all that often at LiveCode, people by and large seem to like it here and stay, but there is a (moderately) regular turnover. It's not exactly news. Warm Regards, Heather (who is now the longest surviving staff member other than Kevin) Heather Laine Customer Services Manager LiveCode Ltd www.livecode.com > On 7 Jun 2017, at 17:00, AndyP via use-livecode > wrote: > > Worrying in view that Dr Peter Brett recently left as well. > > His twitter post here> > https://twitter.com/PeterTBBrett/status/849958594745438208 > <https://twitter.com/PeterTBBrett/status/849958594745438208> > > > > > > > > > - > Andy Piddock > > > My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. > > TinyIDE a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode > TinyIDE > > > Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk > > PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour picker / > finder. > http://www.pointandsee.co.uk - made with LiveCode > -- > View this message in context: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Ben-Beaumont-jumps-ship-tp4715530p4715537.html > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
Agreed Jacque. And I found myself asking... myself... what business is it of mine the internal workings of Livecode? Bob S > On Jun 7, 2017, at 09:39 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > All the staff changes were discussed in the last blog post. It isn't a > secret. Staff move on and are replaced. > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > > > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
All the staff changes were discussed in the last blog post. It isn't a secret. Staff move on and are replaced. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On June 7, 2017 11:31:42 AM Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: On 2017-06-07 18:00, AndyP via use-livecode wrote: Worrying in view that Dr Peter Brett recently left as well. As I said above: "Ben still works for us part-time - so I'd describe that as a non-'event'." In any case, I'm not sure why it is 'worrying' (especially as we have had two staff join us recently). What would be worrying is if companies started locking their employees up in chains and never let them leave! ( It would also be illegal, in the UK at least ;) ). Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
On 2017-06-07 18:00, AndyP via use-livecode wrote: Worrying in view that Dr Peter Brett recently left as well. As I said above: "Ben still works for us part-time - so I'd describe that as a non-'event'." In any case, I'm not sure why it is 'worrying' (especially as we have had two staff join us recently). What would be worrying is if companies started locking their employees up in chains and never let them leave! ( It would also be illegal, in the UK at least ;) ). Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
Worrying in view that Dr Peter Brett recently left as well. His twitter post here> https://twitter.com/PeterTBBrett/status/849958594745438208 <https://twitter.com/PeterTBBrett/status/849958594745438208> - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. TinyIDE a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode TinyIDE Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour picker / finder. http://www.pointandsee.co.uk - made with LiveCode -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Ben-Beaumont-jumps-ship-tp4715530p4715537.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
On 2017-06-07 15:21, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: Interestingly enough this event, and others, do not seem to be reflected currently on the LiveCode website. Ben still works for us part-time - so I'd describe that as a non-'event'. In regards to the other 'events' you refer to - I'll make sure updating the team page is on our website todo list. Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Ben Beaumont jumps ship.
Interestingly enough this event, and others, do not seem to be reflected currently on the LiveCode website. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode