Re: Bug: jumping stack windows (when supress messages is off)

2020-10-13 Thread Mark Smith via use-livecode 
Thanks David, very kind of you to offer. Could we schedule for next week (or 
the one after)? I’m also in a bit of a crunch week myself so next week or after 
would work out better for me as well. 

Cheers,
Mark

> On Oct 13, 2020, at 12:34 PM, David Bovill  wrote:
> 
> Sure Mark. This week I’m doing a sprint on this topic - finishing on Sunday. 
> As part of that work I’ll be recording more videos in Livecode and will post 
> them next week together with some documentation. If you want a quick touch 
> base before that I’d be happy to do a Zoom and do a show / tell.
> On 11 Oct 2020, 11:37 +0100, Mark Smith , wrote:
>> Completely off-topic, but could you post a brief description of how you made 
>> that video David (or send me a PM)? I have to do something similar in the 
>> near future and it would be good to know what kit/software you recorded with.
>> 
>> Cheers and thanks,
>> Mark
>> 
>>> On Oct 9, 2020, at 3:18 PM, David Bovill via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here is a video describing the bug - or at least I am assuming it is a bug. 
>>> Very curious to see if anyone else is experiencing this issue:
>>> 
>>> • https://vimeo.com/466580164
>>> 
>>> On 9 Oct 2020, 14:48 +0100, David Bovill , wrote:
 I’m getting pretty curious about this bug :)
 
 Testing mouse clicks- and not stacks jumping position when moving their 
 location - I find that a stack that is successfully moved between the four 
 quadrants of the screen - accepts mouse clicks accurately in the 
 bottom-left, top-right and bottom right quadrants - but in the top-eft 
 quadrant the mouse-click interactions are offset vertically in a way that 
 is compatible with the stack jump. So if you manage to locate the. Stack 
 without it jumping - in the top-left quadrant the mouse clicks are off.
 
 Monitor settings are set for default value of the MacBook Pro display. I 
 think I’ll make a short video of this behaviour.
 On 9 Oct 2020, 14:35 +0100, David Bovill , wrote:
> Also tested on Livecode 8.1.5 with same results.
> On 9 Oct 2020, 14:00 +0100, David Bovill , wrote:
>> 
>> Windows intermittently jump to a location on the screen when I move 
>> windows. It’s got too annoying to ignore.
>> 
>> • Is anyone else having this problem?
>> 
>> I am testing this on Mojave and Livecode 9.6.1 rc2. I am testing this 
>> without any of my own code such just was IDE stacks. This I “think” is 
>> quite a long standing bug that I suspect is related to the global 
>> coordinate system as I have been working around this for quite a while 
>> now.
>> 
>> 
>> Detail
>> The location of the jump seems to be the same horizontal x location. But 
>> with the vertical value being reset to the halfway point.
>> 
>> I am testing by. Simply moving the message box. It is intermittent - so 
>> occurring about once every 5 moves, and strangely is happening only when 
>> the top left of the stack window is within the top left quadrant of the 
>> screen. Using. The following code int eh message box I find the top of 
>> the message box stack is always 492 after a jump (see below). This 
>> appears to be related to half the screen less the decorations like menu?
>>> > > > put the screenrect & CR & the rect of stack” Message box"
>>> > > >
>>> > > > 0,0,1680,1050
>>> > > > 215,492,634,640
>> 
>> As a further indication that the problem is due to the IDE, I find that 
>> creating a test stack (no scripts or controls) exhibits the same 
>> behaviour - but this behaviour can be suppressed by choosing “Suppress 
>> Messages” from the “Development” menu. This suppression has no effect on 
>> the message box or other IDE windows which still jump intermittently.
>> 
>> The problem is most intense when working with multiple screens. For at 
>> least a couple of years stacks I create and place on second or third 
>> monitors receive mouse clicks in the wrong location. This happens on 
>> different machines, and different. Monitor setups. Only tested on Macs.
>> 
>> I am currently creating a multiscreen app - so taking the tracking down. 
>> Of this bug more seriously. The current tests are one on my laptop 
>> without external monitors, and having restarted the computer (several 
>> times). Applications other than Livecode don’t suffer this problem.
>> 
>> How should I report this bug - should I submit a video / screen 
>> recording?
>> 
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Re: Bug: jumping stack windows (when supress messages is off)

2020-10-13 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode 
Sure Mark. This week I’m doing a sprint on this topic - finishing on Sunday. As 
part of that work I’ll be recording more videos in Livecode and will post them 
next week together with some documentation. If you want a quick touch base 
before that I’d be happy to do a Zoom and do a show / tell.
On 11 Oct 2020, 11:37 +0100, Mark Smith , wrote:
> Completely off-topic, but could you post a brief description of how you made 
> that video David (or send me a PM)? I have to do something similar in the 
> near future and it would be good to know what kit/software you recorded with.
>
> Cheers and thanks,
> Mark
>
> > On Oct 9, 2020, at 3:18 PM, David Bovill via use-livecode 
> >  wrote:
> >
> > Here is a video describing the bug - or at least I am assuming it is a bug. 
> > Very curious to see if anyone else is experiencing this issue:
> >
> > • https://vimeo.com/466580164
> >
> > On 9 Oct 2020, 14:48 +0100, David Bovill , wrote:
> > > I’m getting pretty curious about this bug :)
> > >
> > > Testing mouse clicks- and not stacks jumping position when moving their 
> > > location - I find that a stack that is successfully moved between the 
> > > four quadrants of the screen - accepts mouse clicks accurately in the 
> > > bottom-left, top-right and bottom right quadrants - but in the top-eft 
> > > quadrant the mouse-click interactions are offset vertically in a way that 
> > > is compatible with the stack jump. So if you manage to locate the. Stack 
> > > without it jumping - in the top-left quadrant the mouse clicks are off.
> > >
> > > Monitor settings are set for default value of the MacBook Pro display. I 
> > > think I’ll make a short video of this behaviour.
> > > On 9 Oct 2020, 14:35 +0100, David Bovill , wrote:
> > > > Also tested on Livecode 8.1.5 with same results.
> > > > On 9 Oct 2020, 14:00 +0100, David Bovill , 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Windows intermittently jump to a location on the screen when I move 
> > > > > windows. It’s got too annoying to ignore.
> > > > >
> > > > > • Is anyone else having this problem?
> > > > >
> > > > > I am testing this on Mojave and Livecode 9.6.1 rc2. I am testing this 
> > > > > without any of my own code such just was IDE stacks. This I “think” 
> > > > > is quite a long standing bug that I suspect is related to the global 
> > > > > coordinate system as I have been working around this for quite a 
> > > > > while now.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Detail
> > > > > The location of the jump seems to be the same horizontal x location. 
> > > > > But with the vertical value being reset to the halfway point.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am testing by. Simply moving the message box. It is intermittent - 
> > > > > so occurring about once every 5 moves, and strangely is happening 
> > > > > only when the top left of the stack window is within the top left 
> > > > > quadrant of the screen. Using. The following code int eh message box 
> > > > > I find the top of the message box stack is always 492 after a jump 
> > > > > (see below). This appears to be related to half the screen less the 
> > > > > decorations like menu?
> > > > > put the screenrect & CR & the rect of stack” Message box"
> > > > >
> > > > > 0,0,1680,1050
> > > > > 215,492,634,640
> > > > >
> > > > > As a further indication that the problem is due to the IDE, I find 
> > > > > that creating a test stack (no scripts or controls) exhibits the same 
> > > > > behaviour - but this behaviour can be suppressed by choosing 
> > > > > “Suppress Messages” from the “Development” menu. This suppression has 
> > > > > no effect on the message box or other IDE windows which still jump 
> > > > > intermittently.
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem is most intense when working with multiple screens. For 
> > > > > at least a couple of years stacks I create and place on second or 
> > > > > third monitors receive mouse clicks in the wrong location. This 
> > > > > happens on different machines, and different. Monitor setups. Only 
> > > > > tested on Macs.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am currently creating a multiscreen app - so taking the tracking 
> > > > > down. Of this bug more seriously. The current tests are one on my 
> > > > > laptop without external monitors, and having restarted the computer 
> > > > > (several times). Applications other than Livecode don’t suffer this 
> > > > > problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > How should I report this bug - should I submit a video / screen 
> > > > > recording?
> > > > >
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Re: Bug: jumping stack windows (when supress messages is off)

2020-10-11 Thread Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode 
Hi David,

I am sorry, I did not look at  the video.  That is quite  impressive.
I have never experienced anything like that in the IDE. (LC 9.6.1 MacOS Mojave)

Did you have a look at your plug-ins? Or have you tried to remove your 
preference file temporarily?

Kind regards
Bernd



David Bovill via 
use-livecode
 Sun, 11 Oct 2020 05:30:43 
-0700

Hi Bernd, the bug is not to do with the standard window snap. This is
unresponsive try to any mouse clicks and a big jump across half the screen
without any other windows present. Check the video to see.


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Re: Bug: jumping stack windows (when supress messages is off)

2020-10-11 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 

https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/work-with-app-windows-mchlp2469/mac

Could it just be macOS's windows alignment feature?

On 10/11/2020 8:28 AM, David Bovill via use-livecode wrote:

Hi Bernd, the bug is not to do with the standard window snap. This is 
unresponsive try to any mouse clicks and a big jump across half the screen 
without any other windows present. Check the video to see.
On 10 Oct 2020, 22:15 +0100, Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode 
, wrote:

Hi David,

What I see on Mojave is that e.g. TextEdit or Safari show a similar behavior.
Open 2 windows in TextEdit. Move one close to the other and they will snap into 
place, if the tops of those two windows are almost horizontally aligned they 
will snap into place.

Same goes for Safari with two windows open. And the same happens in the IDE.
If that is what you describe on a single monitor setup then it is an operating 
system thing.

Kind regards
Bernd
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Re: Bug: jumping stack windows (when supress messages is off)

2020-10-11 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode 
Hi Bernd, the bug is not to do with the standard window snap. This is 
unresponsive try to any mouse clicks and a big jump across half the screen 
without any other windows present. Check the video to see.
On 10 Oct 2020, 22:15 +0100, Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode 
, wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> What I see on Mojave is that e.g. TextEdit or Safari show a similar behavior.
> Open 2 windows in TextEdit. Move one close to the other and they will snap 
> into place, if the tops of those two windows are almost horizontally aligned 
> they will snap into place.
>
> Same goes for Safari with two windows open. And the same happens in the IDE.
> If that is what you describe on a single monitor setup then it is an 
> operating system thing.
>
> Kind regards
> Bernd
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Re: Bug: jumping stack windows (when supress messages is off)

2020-10-11 Thread Mark Smith via use-livecode 
Completely off-topic, but could you post a brief description of how you made 
that video David (or send me a PM)? I have to do something similar in the near 
future and it would be good to know what kit/software you recorded with. 

Cheers and thanks,
Mark

> On Oct 9, 2020, at 3:18 PM, David Bovill via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Here is a video describing the bug - or at least I am assuming it is a bug. 
> Very curious to see if anyone else is experiencing this issue:
> 
> • https://vimeo.com/466580164
> 
> On 9 Oct 2020, 14:48 +0100, David Bovill , wrote:
>> I’m getting pretty curious about this bug :)
>> 
>> Testing  mouse clicks- and not stacks jumping position when moving their 
>> location - I find that a stack that is successfully moved between the four 
>> quadrants of the screen - accepts mouse clicks accurately in the 
>> bottom-left, top-right and bottom right quadrants - but in the top-eft 
>> quadrant the mouse-click interactions are offset vertically in a way that is 
>> compatible with the stack jump. So if you manage to locate the. Stack 
>> without it jumping - in the top-left quadrant the mouse clicks are off.
>> 
>> Monitor settings are set for default value of the MacBook Pro display. I 
>> think I’ll make a short video of this behaviour.
>> On 9 Oct 2020, 14:35 +0100, David Bovill , wrote:
>>> Also tested on Livecode 8.1.5 with same results.
>>> On 9 Oct 2020, 14:00 +0100, David Bovill , wrote:
 
 Windows intermittently jump to a location on the screen when I move 
 windows. It’s got too annoying to ignore.
 
 • Is anyone else having this problem?
 
 I am testing this on Mojave and Livecode 9.6.1 rc2. I am testing this 
 without any of my own code such just was IDE stacks. This I “think” is 
 quite a long standing bug that I suspect is related to the global 
 coordinate system as I have been working around this for quite a while now.
 
 
 Detail
 The location of the jump seems to be the same horizontal x location. But 
 with the vertical value being reset to the halfway point.
 
 I am testing by. Simply moving the message box. It is intermittent - so 
 occurring about once every 5 moves, and strangely is happening only when 
 the top left of the stack window is within the top left quadrant of the 
 screen. Using. The following code int eh message box I find the top of the 
 message box stack is always 492 after a jump (see below). This appears to 
 be related to half the screen less the decorations like menu?
>   > > > put the screenrect & CR & the rect of stack” Message box"
>   > > >
>   > > > 0,0,1680,1050
>   > > > 215,492,634,640
 
 As a further indication that the problem is due to the IDE, I find that 
 creating a test stack (no scripts or controls) exhibits the same behaviour 
 - but this behaviour can be suppressed by choosing “Suppress Messages” 
 from the “Development” menu. This suppression has no effect on the message 
 box or other IDE windows which still jump intermittently.
 
 The problem is most intense when working with multiple screens. For at 
 least a couple of years stacks I create and place on second or third 
 monitors receive mouse clicks in the wrong location. This happens on 
 different machines, and different. Monitor setups. Only tested on Macs.
 
 I am currently creating a multiscreen app - so taking the tracking down. 
 Of this bug more seriously. The current tests are one on my laptop without 
 external monitors, and having restarted the computer (several times). 
 Applications other than Livecode don’t suffer this problem.
 
 How should I report this bug - should I submit a video / screen recording?
 
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Re: Bug: jumping stack windows (when supress messages is off)

2020-10-10 Thread Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode 
Hi David,

What I see on Mojave is that e.g. TextEdit or Safari show a similar behavior.
Open  2 windows in TextEdit.  Move one close to the other and they will snap 
into place, if the tops of those two windows are almost horizontally aligned 
they will snap into place.

Same goes for Safari with two windows open. And the  same happens in  the IDE.
If that is what you describe on a single monitor setup then it is an operating 
system thing.

Kind regards
Bernd
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Re: Bug: jumping stack windows (when supress messages is off)

2020-10-09 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 

Sorry,

When I read you posts and saw "windows" I thought you were talking about 
this happening on Microsoft Windows.


I have seen something similar on macOS, but only when you have dual 
monitors and the second monitor has it's top positioned higher than the 
primary monitor.







On 10/9/2020 10:23 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:
Window 10 has a snap to feature on by default that will try to snap 
any window of any application to the edges and resize it to have the 
screen (or perhaps other options) if the windows is being dragged and 
the mouse moves close to a screen edge. I have not explored the 
feature fully, so I am not sure of the details.




On 10/9/2020 9:48 AM, David Bovill via use-livecode wrote:

I’m getting pretty curious about this bug :)

Testing  mouse clicks- and not stacks jumping position when moving 
their location - I find that a stack that is successfully moved 
between the four quadrants of the screen - accepts mouse clicks 
accurately in the bottom-left, top-right and bottom right quadrants - 
but in the top-eft quadrant the mouse-click interactions are offset 
vertically in a way that is compatible with the stack jump. So if you 
manage to locate the. Stack without it jumping - in the top-left 
quadrant the mouse clicks are off.


Monitor settings are set for default value of the MacBook Pro 
display. I think I’ll make a short video of this behaviour.
On 9 Oct 2020, 14:35 +0100, David Bovill , 
wrote:

Also tested on Livecode 8.1.5 with same results.
On 9 Oct 2020, 14:00 +0100, David Bovill , 
wrote:
Windows intermittently jump to a location on the screen when I move 
windows. It’s got too annoying to ignore.


• Is anyone else having this problem?

I am testing this on Mojave and Livecode 9.6.1 rc2. I am testing 
this without any of my own code such just was IDE stacks. This I 
“think” is quite a long standing bug that I suspect is related to 
the global coordinate system as I have been working around this for 
quite a while now.



Detail
The location of the jump seems to be the same horizontal x 
location. But with the vertical value being reset to the halfway 
point.


I am testing by. Simply moving the message box. It is intermittent 
- so occurring about once every 5 moves, and strangely is happening 
only when the top left of the stack window is within the top left 
quadrant of the screen. Using. The following code int eh message 
box I find the top of the message box stack is always 492 after a 
jump (see below). This appears to be related to half the screen 
less the decorations like menu?

> > put the screenrect & CR & the rect of stack” Message box"
> >
> > 0,0,1680,1050
> > 215,492,634,640
As a further indication that the problem is due to the IDE, I find 
that creating a test stack (no scripts or controls) exhibits the 
same behaviour - but this behaviour can be suppressed by choosing 
“Suppress Messages” from the “Development” menu. This suppression 
has no effect on the message box or other IDE windows which still 
jump intermittently.


The problem is most intense when working with multiple screens. For 
at least a couple of years stacks I create and place on second or 
third monitors receive mouse clicks in the wrong location. This 
happens on different machines, and different. Monitor setups. Only 
tested on Macs.


I am currently creating a multiscreen app - so taking the tracking 
down. Of this bug more seriously. The current tests are one on my 
laptop without external monitors, and having restarted the computer 
(several times). Applications other than Livecode don’t suffer this 
problem.


How should I report this bug - should I submit a video / screen 
recording?



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Re: Bug: jumping stack windows (when supress messages is off)

2020-10-09 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
Window 10 has a snap to feature on by default that will try to snap any 
window of any application to the edges and resize it to have the screen 
(or perhaps other options) if the windows is being dragged and the mouse 
moves close to a screen edge. I have not explored the feature fully, so 
I am not sure of the details.




On 10/9/2020 9:48 AM, David Bovill via use-livecode wrote:

I’m getting pretty curious about this bug :)

Testing  mouse clicks- and not stacks jumping position when moving their 
location - I find that a stack that is successfully moved between the four 
quadrants of the screen - accepts mouse clicks accurately in the bottom-left, 
top-right and bottom right quadrants - but in the top-eft quadrant the 
mouse-click interactions are offset vertically in a way that is compatible with 
the stack jump. So if you manage to locate the. Stack without it jumping - in 
the top-left quadrant the mouse clicks are off.

Monitor settings are set for default value of the MacBook Pro display. I think 
I’ll make a short video of this behaviour.
On 9 Oct 2020, 14:35 +0100, David Bovill , wrote:

Also tested on Livecode 8.1.5 with same results.
On 9 Oct 2020, 14:00 +0100, David Bovill , wrote:

Windows intermittently jump to a location on the screen when I move windows. 
It’s got too annoying to ignore.

• Is anyone else having this problem?

I am testing this on Mojave and Livecode 9.6.1 rc2. I am testing this without 
any of my own code such just was IDE stacks. This I “think” is quite a long 
standing bug that I suspect is related to the global coordinate system as I 
have been working around this for quite a while now.


Detail
The location of the jump seems to be the same horizontal x location. But with 
the vertical value being reset to the halfway point.

I am testing by. Simply moving the message box. It is intermittent - so 
occurring about once every 5 moves, and strangely is happening only when the 
top left of the stack window is within the top left quadrant of the screen. 
Using. The following code int eh message box I find the top of the message box 
stack is always 492 after a jump (see below). This appears to be related to 
half the screen less the decorations like menu?

> > put the screenrect & CR & the rect of stack” Message box"
> >
> > 0,0,1680,1050
> > 215,492,634,640

As a further indication that the problem is due to the IDE, I find that 
creating a test stack (no scripts or controls) exhibits the same behaviour - 
but this behaviour can be suppressed by choosing “Suppress Messages” from the 
“Development” menu. This suppression has no effect on the message box or other 
IDE windows which still jump intermittently.

The problem is most intense when working with multiple screens. For at least a 
couple of years stacks I create and place on second or third monitors receive 
mouse clicks in the wrong location. This happens on different machines, and 
different. Monitor setups. Only tested on Macs.

I am currently creating a multiscreen app - so taking the tracking down. Of 
this bug more seriously. The current tests are one on my laptop without 
external monitors, and having restarted the computer (several times). 
Applications other than Livecode don’t suffer this problem.

How should I report this bug - should I submit a video / screen recording?


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Re: Bug: jumping stack windows (when supress messages is off)

2020-10-09 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode 
Here is a video describing the bug - or at least I am assuming it is a bug. 
Very curious to see if anyone else is experiencing this issue:

• https://vimeo.com/466580164

On 9 Oct 2020, 14:48 +0100, David Bovill , wrote:
> I’m getting pretty curious about this bug :)
>
> Testing  mouse clicks- and not stacks jumping position when moving their 
> location - I find that a stack that is successfully moved between the four 
> quadrants of the screen - accepts mouse clicks accurately in the bottom-left, 
> top-right and bottom right quadrants - but in the top-eft quadrant the 
> mouse-click interactions are offset vertically in a way that is compatible 
> with the stack jump. So if you manage to locate the. Stack without it jumping 
> - in the top-left quadrant the mouse clicks are off.
>
> Monitor settings are set for default value of the MacBook Pro display. I 
> think I’ll make a short video of this behaviour.
> On 9 Oct 2020, 14:35 +0100, David Bovill , wrote:
> > Also tested on Livecode 8.1.5 with same results.
> > On 9 Oct 2020, 14:00 +0100, David Bovill , wrote:
> > >
> > > Windows intermittently jump to a location on the screen when I move 
> > > windows. It’s got too annoying to ignore.
> > >
> > > • Is anyone else having this problem?
> > >
> > > I am testing this on Mojave and Livecode 9.6.1 rc2. I am testing this 
> > > without any of my own code such just was IDE stacks. This I “think” is 
> > > quite a long standing bug that I suspect is related to the global 
> > > coordinate system as I have been working around this for quite a while 
> > > now.
> > >
> > >
> > > Detail
> > > The location of the jump seems to be the same horizontal x location. But 
> > > with the vertical value being reset to the halfway point.
> > >
> > > I am testing by. Simply moving the message box. It is intermittent - so 
> > > occurring about once every 5 moves, and strangely is happening only when 
> > > the top left of the stack window is within the top left quadrant of the 
> > > screen. Using. The following code int eh message box I find the top of 
> > > the message box stack is always 492 after a jump (see below). This 
> > > appears to be related to half the screen less the decorations like menu?
> > > put the screenrect & CR & the rect of stack” Message box"
> > >
> > > 0,0,1680,1050
> > > 215,492,634,640
> > >
> > > As a further indication that the problem is due to the IDE, I find that 
> > > creating a test stack (no scripts or controls) exhibits the same 
> > > behaviour - but this behaviour can be suppressed by choosing “Suppress 
> > > Messages” from the “Development” menu. This suppression has no effect on 
> > > the message box or other IDE windows which still jump intermittently.
> > >
> > > The problem is most intense when working with multiple screens. For at 
> > > least a couple of years stacks I create and place on second or third 
> > > monitors receive mouse clicks in the wrong location. This happens on 
> > > different machines, and different. Monitor setups. Only tested on Macs.
> > >
> > > I am currently creating a multiscreen app - so taking the tracking down. 
> > > Of this bug more seriously. The current tests are one on my laptop 
> > > without external monitors, and having restarted the computer (several 
> > > times). Applications other than Livecode don’t suffer this problem.
> > >
> > > How should I report this bug - should I submit a video / screen recording?
> > >
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Re: Bug: jumping stack windows (when supress messages is off)

2020-10-09 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode 
I’m getting pretty curious about this bug :)

Testing  mouse clicks- and not stacks jumping position when moving their 
location - I find that a stack that is successfully moved between the four 
quadrants of the screen - accepts mouse clicks accurately in the bottom-left, 
top-right and bottom right quadrants - but in the top-eft quadrant the 
mouse-click interactions are offset vertically in a way that is compatible with 
the stack jump. So if you manage to locate the. Stack without it jumping - in 
the top-left quadrant the mouse clicks are off.

Monitor settings are set for default value of the MacBook Pro display. I think 
I’ll make a short video of this behaviour.
On 9 Oct 2020, 14:35 +0100, David Bovill , wrote:
> Also tested on Livecode 8.1.5 with same results.
> On 9 Oct 2020, 14:00 +0100, David Bovill , wrote:
> >
> > Windows intermittently jump to a location on the screen when I move 
> > windows. It’s got too annoying to ignore.
> >
> > • Is anyone else having this problem?
> >
> > I am testing this on Mojave and Livecode 9.6.1 rc2. I am testing this 
> > without any of my own code such just was IDE stacks. This I “think” is 
> > quite a long standing bug that I suspect is related to the global 
> > coordinate system as I have been working around this for quite a while now.
> >
> >
> > Detail
> > The location of the jump seems to be the same horizontal x location. But 
> > with the vertical value being reset to the halfway point.
> >
> > I am testing by. Simply moving the message box. It is intermittent - so 
> > occurring about once every 5 moves, and strangely is happening only when 
> > the top left of the stack window is within the top left quadrant of the 
> > screen. Using. The following code int eh message box I find the top of the 
> > message box stack is always 492 after a jump (see below). This appears to 
> > be related to half the screen less the decorations like menu?
> > put the screenrect & CR & the rect of stack” Message box"
> >
> > 0,0,1680,1050
> > 215,492,634,640
> >
> > As a further indication that the problem is due to the IDE, I find that 
> > creating a test stack (no scripts or controls) exhibits the same behaviour 
> > - but this behaviour can be suppressed by choosing “Suppress Messages” from 
> > the “Development” menu. This suppression has no effect on the message box 
> > or other IDE windows which still jump intermittently.
> >
> > The problem is most intense when working with multiple screens. For at 
> > least a couple of years stacks I create and place on second or third 
> > monitors receive mouse clicks in the wrong location. This happens on 
> > different machines, and different. Monitor setups. Only tested on Macs.
> >
> > I am currently creating a multiscreen app - so taking the tracking down. Of 
> > this bug more seriously. The current tests are one on my laptop without 
> > external monitors, and having restarted the computer (several times). 
> > Applications other than Livecode don’t suffer this problem.
> >
> > How should I report this bug - should I submit a video / screen recording?
> >
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Re: Bug: jumping stack windows (when supress messages is off)

2020-10-09 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode 
Also tested on Livecode 8.1.5 with same results.
On 9 Oct 2020, 14:00 +0100, David Bovill , wrote:
>
> Windows intermittently jump to a location on the screen when I move windows. 
> It’s got too annoying to ignore.
>
> • Is anyone else having this problem?
>
> I am testing this on Mojave and Livecode 9.6.1 rc2. I am testing this without 
> any of my own code such just was IDE stacks. This I “think” is quite a long 
> standing bug that I suspect is related to the global coordinate system as I 
> have been working around this for quite a while now.
>
>
> Detail
> The location of the jump seems to be the same horizontal x location. But with 
> the vertical value being reset to the halfway point.
>
> I am testing by. Simply moving the message box. It is intermittent - so 
> occurring about once every 5 moves, and strangely is happening only when the 
> top left of the stack window is within the top left quadrant of the screen. 
> Using. The following code int eh message box I find the top of the message 
> box stack is always 492 after a jump (see below). This appears to be related 
> to half the screen less the decorations like menu?
> put the screenrect & CR & the rect of stack” Message box"
>
> 0,0,1680,1050
> 215,492,634,640
>
> As a further indication that the problem is due to the IDE, I find that 
> creating a test stack (no scripts or controls) exhibits the same behaviour - 
> but this behaviour can be suppressed by choosing “Suppress Messages” from the 
> “Development” menu. This suppression has no effect on the message box or 
> other IDE windows which still jump intermittently.
>
> The problem is most intense when working with multiple screens. For at least 
> a couple of years stacks I create and place on second or third monitors 
> receive mouse clicks in the wrong location. This happens on different 
> machines, and different. Monitor setups. Only tested on Macs.
>
> I am currently creating a multiscreen app - so taking the tracking down. Of 
> this bug more seriously. The current tests are one on my laptop without 
> external monitors, and having restarted the computer (several times). 
> Applications other than Livecode don’t suffer this problem.
>
> How should I report this bug - should I submit a video / screen recording?
>
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Bug: jumping stack windows (when supress messages is off)

2020-10-09 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode 

Windows intermittently jump to a location on the screen when I move windows. 
It’s got too annoying to ignore.

• Is anyone else having this problem?

I am testing this on Mojave and Livecode 9.6.1 rc2. I am testing this without 
any of my own code such just was IDE stacks. This I “think” is quite a long 
standing bug that I suspect is related to the global coordinate system as I 
have been working around this for quite a while now.


Detail
The location of the jump seems to be the same horizontal x location. But with 
the vertical value being reset to the halfway point.

I am testing by. Simply moving the message box. It is intermittent - so 
occurring about once every 5 moves, and strangely is happening only when the 
top left of the stack window is within the top left quadrant of the screen. 
Using. The following code int eh message box I find the top of the message box 
stack is always 492 after a jump (see below). This appears to be related to 
half the screen less the decorations like menu?
put the screenrect & CR & the rect of stack” Message box"

0,0,1680,1050
215,492,634,640

As a further indication that the problem is due to the IDE, I find that 
creating a test stack (no scripts or controls) exhibits the same behaviour - 
but this behaviour can be suppressed by choosing “Suppress Messages” from the 
“Development” menu. This suppression has no effect on the message box or other 
IDE windows which still jump intermittently.

The problem is most intense when working with multiple screens. For at least a 
couple of years stacks I create and place on second or third monitors receive 
mouse clicks in the wrong location. This happens on different machines, and 
different. Monitor setups. Only tested on Macs.

I am currently creating a multiscreen app - so taking the tracking down. Of 
this bug more seriously. The current tests are one on my laptop without 
external monitors, and having restarted the computer (several times). 
Applications other than Livecode don’t suffer this problem.

How should I report this bug - should I submit a video / screen recording?

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