[ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread Ralf Bitter

revIgniter v1.4b has been released.

This is the first version which respects the latest
engine changes (LiveCode server version 4.6.3).
Lots of adjustments were made and the whole
Encrypt library is revised.

Keep in mind that this version is not compatible with
revServer (engine versions before LiveCode server 4.6.3).

Info and download at: http://www.revigniter.com/



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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread Andre Garzia
Ralf,

For now I think its better to have two links, one for 1.4 and one for
1.3.latest because people on On-Rev will not transition to the new engine
for a while and there are a lot of guys out there using RevServer. I think
it is better to offer both branches while the engine is in pre-release.

:-)

Cheers
andre


On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Ralf Bitter ra...@dimensionb.de wrote:


 revIgniter v1.4b has been released.

 This is the first version which respects the latest
 engine changes (LiveCode server version 4.6.3).
 Lots of adjustments were made and the whole
 Encrypt library is revised.

 Keep in mind that this version is not compatible with
 revServer (engine versions before LiveCode server 4.6.3).

 Info and download at: http://www.revigniter.com/



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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread Ralf Bitter

Agreed . . .


On 19.07.2011, at 17:11, Andre Garzia wrote:

 Ralf,
 
 For now I think its better to have two links, one for 1.4 and one for
 1.3.latest because people on On-Rev will not transition to the new engine
 for a while and there are a lot of guys out there using RevServer. I think
 it is better to offer both branches while the engine is in pre-release.
 
 :-)
 
 Cheers
 andre
 


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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread Andrew Kluthe
RevServer got updated? Is there a changelog? Does On-Rev use Livecode Server
4.6.3?

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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread Andre Garzia
Andrew,

I just received an email from the mothership, it is more serious than that,
RevServer was released!

\O/

LiveCode Server 4.6.3

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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Whoa. I just got the email too. 


I am excited about built in encryption feature. This makes webservice apps
much easier. I wonder if this means SQL Yoga will work with revServer.

I am a little confused on how the stack support works though. Can someone
help summarize this feature for me?

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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread Andre Garzia
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Andrew Kluthe and...@rjdfarm.com wrote:

 Whoa. I just got the email too.


 I am excited about built in encryption feature. This makes webservice apps
 much easier. I wonder if this means SQL Yoga will work with revServer.

 I am a little confused on how the stack support works though. Can someone
 help summarize this feature for me?


Andrew,

the stack works just like library stacks. It is just a convenience, you can
start using a stack and have its script placed in the message path. No GUI
stuff.

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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread stephen barncard
and CUSTOM PROPERTIES!

On 19 July 2011 10:31, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Andrew Kluthe and...@rjdfarm.com wrote:

  Whoa. I just got the email too.
 
 
  I am excited about built in encryption feature. This makes webservice
 apps
  much easier. I wonder if this means SQL Yoga will work with revServer.
 
  I am a little confused on how the stack support works though. Can someone
  help summarize this feature for me?
 

 Andrew,

 the stack works just like library stacks. It is just a convenience, you can
 start using a stack and have its script placed in the message path. No GUI
 stuff.

 :-)



 
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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread Andrew Kluthe
I don't need GUI stuff if I can send messages and write my code in a
colorized code editor instead of notepad++. Very excited.

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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread stephen barncard
?? there is no editor in Livecode server...

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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread Bob Sneidar
Right... and aliens from Zartha just landed in my mother's living room 
proclaiming to be the ancient ancestors of Elvis Presley, wondering why their 
whale songs haven't been answered. 

Bob


On Jul 19, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:

 Andrew,
 
 I just received an email from the mothership, it is more serious than that,
 RevServer was released!
 
 \O/


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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread Andre Garzia
LiveCode IDE can't handle LiveCode Server scripts... :-(

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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Bummer. So we aren't talking about binary stacks, just a different way of
interacting between script files? How do custom properties work then?

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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread stephen barncard
Textmate and Ralf Bitter's free Livecode plugin for Textmate rocks for live
iRev editing.

sqb

On 19 July 2011 10:49, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

 LiveCode IDE can't handle LiveCode Server scripts... :-(

 On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Andrew Kluthe and...@rjdfarm.com wrote:

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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread stephen barncard
maybe I'm wrong but there should be at least custom properties of the stack.

I am not able to test drive it yet.

sqb

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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread Andre Garzia
Andrew,

it is binary stacks, you use stack libraries just like you do on the IDE but
you can't access the graphics layer.

Andre

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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread Andre Garzia
custom props should work fine

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:22 PM, stephen barncard 
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:

 maybe I'm wrong but there should be at least custom properties of the
 stack.

 I am not able to test drive it yet.

 sqb

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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread stephen barncard
Coda is a great editor too - and does CSS nicely.

I made a SubEthaEdit editor plugin that works in Coda. It should be on their
website.   It works ok - (I modified a template for Director!) -- but it
could use some improvement.

Runtime Revolution (includes
style)http://www.codingmonkeys.de/subethaedit/modes/Revolution.mode.zip


feel free to improve.

http://www.codingmonkeys.de/subethaedit/mode.html

On 19 July 2011 11:24, Keith Clarke keith.cla...@clarkeandclarke.co.ukwrote:

 ...that makes me so pleased that I recently bought Coda ;-)

 On 19 Jul 2011, at 19:20, stephen barncard wrote:

  Textmate and Ralf Bitter's free Livecode plugin for Textmate rocks for
 live
  iRev editing.
 
  sqb
 
  On 19 July 2011 10:49, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:
 
  LiveCode IDE can't handle LiveCode Server scripts... :-(
 
  On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Andrew Kluthe and...@rjdfarm.com
 wrote:
 
  I don't need GUI stuff if I can send messages and write my code in a
  colorized code editor instead of notepad++. Very excited.
 
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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread Andre Garzia
Coda is a great product by one of the greatest if not the greatest software
house (that publishes only for the mac). Audiom was my default music player
since Mac OS 9, now I've migrated to Grooveshark.

To edit my own LiveCode Server stuff I use Transmit + TextMate or my own
tools sometimes... FTP Commander is a quick editor for irev files but I need
to fix some stuff in it before it can be used for more serious work.

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Keith Clarke 
keith.cla...@clarkeandclarke.co.uk wrote:

 ...that makes me so pleased that I recently bought Coda ;-)

 On 19 Jul 2011, at 19:20, stephen barncard wrote:

  Textmate and Ralf Bitter's free Livecode plugin for Textmate rocks for
 live
  iRev editing.
 
  sqb
 
  On 19 July 2011 10:49, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:
 
  LiveCode IDE can't handle LiveCode Server scripts... :-(
 
  On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Andrew Kluthe and...@rjdfarm.com
 wrote:
 
  I don't need GUI stuff if I can send messages and write my code in a
  colorized code editor instead of notepad++. Very excited.
 
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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread Robert Mann
I open up a new thread on the subject of revServer stacks :: how does it
work?

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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread stephen barncard
yeah PANIC Software. I love those guys. Great code and a sense of humor.

Did you read their story about how Audion almost became the framework for
iTunes? They actually had an awkward meeting with the great one, and turned
him down!

On 19 July 2011 11:34, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

 Coda is a great product by one of the greatest if not the greatest software
 house (that publishes only for the mac). Audiom was my default music player
 since Mac OS 9, now I've migrated to Grooveshark.

 To edit my own LiveCode Server stuff I use Transmit + TextMate or my own
 tools sometimes... FTP Commander is a quick editor for irev files but I
 need
 to fix some stuff in it before it can be used for more serious work.

 On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Keith Clarke 
 keith.cla...@clarkeandclarke.co.uk wrote:

  ...that makes me so pleased that I recently bought Coda ;-)
 
  On 19 Jul 2011, at 19:20, stephen barncard wrote:
 
   Textmate and Ralf Bitter's free Livecode plugin for Textmate rocks for
  live
   iRev editing.
  
   sqb
  
   On 19 July 2011 10:49, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:
  
   LiveCode IDE can't handle LiveCode Server scripts... :-(
  
   On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Andrew Kluthe and...@rjdfarm.com
  wrote:
  
   I don't need GUI stuff if I can send messages and write my code in a
   colorized code editor instead of notepad++. Very excited.
  
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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread Andre Garzia
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 4:02 PM, stephen barncard 
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:

 They actually had an awkward meeting with the great one, and turned
 him down!


instead of great one, I read Great Old One and some weird Lovecraftian part
of my mind suddenly screamed in horror

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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 7/19/11 1:20 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

Textmate and Ralf Bitter's free Livecode plugin for Textmate rocks for live
iRev editing.


I know Trevor made one for BBEdit, is Ralf's a new one? Will it work 
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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread stephen barncard
Strictly for Textmate.

On 19 July 2011 14:14, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:

 On 7/19/11 1:20 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

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 live
 iRev editing.


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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread stephen barncard
http://revigniter.com/accessory

On 19 July 2011 14:18, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.comwrote:

 Strictly for Textmate.


 On 19 July 2011 14:14, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:

 On 7/19/11 1:20 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

 Textmate and Ralf Bitter's free Livecode plugin for Textmate rocks for
 live
 iRev editing.


 I know Trevor made one for BBEdit, is Ralf's a new one? Will it work with
 BBEdit (and do you have a link?)

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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread Keith Clarke
...I was using Text Wrangler with CSSEdit (which I like a lot) and Transmit, 
but as a coding numpty, I was looking for a visual, more declarative 
(point-and-click instead of type) toolset, with inbuilt irev language 
awareness, alongside HTML, Javascript and CSS. 

I really like Flux and would love to see an irev-aware Flux (Andre, check it 
out as the early design prototypes for revImpossible 
http://theescapers.com/screencast/ !) 

So, I went the Coda all-in-one route rather than replacing TextWrangler with 
TextMate. I've not got my head around it yet - not have I added the SubEthaEdit 
plugin, but I guess that may be out of date for the 4.6.3 version of irev 
anyway. Does TextMate have a plugin for .irev language awareness? 
Best,
Keith..

On 19 Jul 2011, at 19:36, stephen barncard wrote:

 Coda is a great editor too - and does CSS nicely.
 
 I made a SubEthaEdit editor plugin that works in Coda. It should be on their
 website.   It works ok - (I modified a template for Director!) -- but it
 could use some improvement.
 
 Runtime Revolution (includes
 style)http://www.codingmonkeys.de/subethaedit/modes/Revolution.mode.zip
 
 
 feel free to improve.
 
 http://www.codingmonkeys.de/subethaedit/mode.html
 
 On 19 July 2011 11:24, Keith Clarke keith.cla...@clarkeandclarke.co.ukwrote:
 
 ...that makes me so pleased that I recently bought Coda ;-)


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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread Keith Clarke
Doh! there I go sending when I should have been reading about Ralf's Textmate 
plugin.
Note to self - learn to type quicker!
Best,
Keith..

On 19 Jul 2011, at 20:23, Keith Clarke wrote:

 ...I was using Text Wrangler with CSSEdit (which I like a lot) and Transmit, 
 but as a coding numpty, I was looking for a visual, more declarative 
 (point-and-click instead of type) toolset, with inbuilt irev language 
 awareness, alongside HTML, Javascript and CSS. 
 
 I really like Flux and would love to see an irev-aware Flux (Andre, check it 
 out as the early design prototypes for revImpossible 
 http://theescapers.com/screencast/ !) 
 
 So, I went the Coda all-in-one route rather than replacing TextWrangler with 
 TextMate. I've not got my head around it yet - not have I added the 
 SubEthaEdit plugin, but I guess that may be out of date for the 4.6.3 version 
 of irev anyway. Does TextMate have a plugin for .irev language awareness? 
 Best,
 Keith..
 
 On 19 Jul 2011, at 19:36, stephen barncard wrote:
 
 Coda is a great editor too - and does CSS nicely.
 
 I made a SubEthaEdit editor plugin that works in Coda. It should be on their
 website.   It works ok - (I modified a template for Director!) -- but it
 could use some improvement.
 
 Runtime Revolution (includes
 style)http://www.codingmonkeys.de/subethaedit/modes/Revolution.mode.zip
 
 
 feel free to improve.
 
 http://www.codingmonkeys.de/subethaedit/mode.html
 
 On 19 July 2011 11:24, Keith Clarke 
 keith.cla...@clarkeandclarke.co.ukwrote:
 
 ...that makes me so pleased that I recently bought Coda ;-)
 


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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread Ken Ray
BTW,

There's more modules for a few other editors - originally designed to work with 
the STS/MLXEditor that allows you to use a text editor for editing instead of 
the IDE automatically. Here's the link:

http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/livecode/downloads/stsMLXEditor.htm#Plugins


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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread Andre Garzia
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Keith Clarke 
keith.cla...@clarkeandclarke.co.uk wrote:

 ...I was using Text Wrangler with CSSEdit (which I like a lot) and
 Transmit, but as a coding numpty, I was looking for a visual, more
 declarative (point-and-click instead of type) toolset, with inbuilt irev
 language awareness, alongside HTML, Javascript and CSS.

 I really like Flux and would love to see an irev-aware Flux (Andre, check
 it out as the early design prototypes for revImpossible
 http://theescapers.com/screencast/ !)


I have licenses for Flux since their early betas... it is a great idea but I
think it is a poor implementation. The software (Flux 1 and 2) crashes a
lot, I cannot tolerate software crashing like that. Also, once you have
dozens of nested divs, things become confusing.

That is not what I aim with revImpossible man, I'd better make a
video...

:-)




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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread Andre Garzia
Ken,

do you still use STS/MLXEditor?

Cheers
andre

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Ken Ray k...@sonsothunder.com wrote:

 BTW,

 There's more modules for a few other editors - originally designed to work
 with the STS/MLXEditor that allows you to use a text editor for editing
 instead of the IDE automatically. Here's the link:


 http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/livecode/downloads/stsMLXEditor.htm#Plugins


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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread Keith Clarke
...yes, nice concept but Flux 2 was quite unstable. It got better with V3 - but 
everything is relative!

On 19 Jul 2011, at 20:33, Andre Garzia wrote:

 On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Keith Clarke 
 keith.cla...@clarkeandclarke.co.uk wrote:
 
 ...I was using Text Wrangler with CSSEdit (which I like a lot) and
 Transmit, but as a coding numpty, I was looking for a visual, more
 declarative (point-and-click instead of type) toolset, with inbuilt irev
 language awareness, alongside HTML, Javascript and CSS.
 
 I really like Flux and would love to see an irev-aware Flux (Andre, check
 it out as the early design prototypes for revImpossible
 http://theescapers.com/screencast/ !)
 
 
 I have licenses for Flux since their early betas... it is a great idea but I
 think it is a poor implementation. The software (Flux 1 and 2) crashes a
 lot, I cannot tolerate software crashing like that. Also, once you have
 dozens of nested divs, things become confusing.
 
 That is not what I aim with revImpossible man, I'd better make a
 video...
 
 :-)


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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread Ken Ray

On Jul 19, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:

 Ken,
 
 do you still use STS/MLXEditor?

I haven't in a while - but it still works with the latest LC just as it did 
with Revolution...

:D

Ken


 
 On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Ken Ray k...@sonsothunder.com wrote:
 
 BTW,
 
 There's more modules for a few other editors - originally designed to work
 with the STS/MLXEditor that allows you to use a text editor for editing
 instead of the IDE automatically. Here's the link:
 
 
 http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/livecode/downloads/stsMLXEditor.htm#Plugins
 
 
 Ken Ray
 Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
 Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread Ralf Bitter

Pierre, thanks very much for the kind words.


On 19.07.2011, at 23:58, Pierre Sahores wrote:

 Thank you for your outstanding and major contribution to the LC-server 
 frameworks main tools, Ralf ! 
 
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