Re: [OT] Wireless internet in my flat.
On 26/02/15 01:45, Jim Lambert wrote: Richmond wrote: my son who has the MacBook is now back in the States at University Hi Richmond, Does he have problems connecting to WiFi at the University? Or anywhere else other than your home? if not, perhaps there’s a clue. No, he doesn't. Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Wireless internet in my flat.
On 25/02/15 19:06, William de Smet wrote: Hi Richmond, There are/were issues with OSX 10.10 and WiFi. I never had WiFi problems with OSX 10.10 but when you search the internet there are a lot of threads about it: http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/mac-software/mac-os-x-yosemite-wifi-airdrop-fix-update-new-features-bugs-uk-video-10-10-2-3493748/ https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6601075?start=0 Thanks. greetings, William 2015-02-25 18:02 GMT+01:00 Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com: On 25/02/15 18:31, kee nethery wrote: Compare all the variants of 802.11 that your router supports and that your MacBook Air supports. Could be there is no common 802.11 between them if your router is really old tech. Kee So, what you are saying is that my son's MacBook air is a fussy thing, while all thise generic devices are just sl*ts :) And, what is the lesson? Pay more for a MacBook so you then have to pay more for other things! Richmond. On Feb 25, 2015, at 8:25 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: I have a wired+wireless router connected to my cable modem in my flat. My Dell Optiplex 745 running Linux is connected via a LAN cable to the router. My G3 iMac running Mac OS 9.2.2 is connected via LAN cable. My G5 iMac running Mac OS 10.4 and 10.5 connects wirelessly. My wife's laptop (generic rubbish) running Linux connects wirelessly. My iPad 1 connects wirelessly. My wife's Android NextBook connects wirelessly. My wife's Dell Optiplex 760 with wireless dongle connects wirelessly. My older son's iPad 4 connects wirelessly. Both of my sons' iPhones connects wirelessly. My older son's Lenovo laptop running Windows 7 connects wirelessly. BUT . . . My younger son's MacBook Air running Mac OS 10.10 is UNABLE to connect wirelessly . . . Would be glad for any pointers as to why. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Wireless internet in my flat.
On 25/02/15 19:33, Robert Brenstein wrote: On 25.02.2015 at 18:25 Uhr +0200 Richmond apparently wrote: I have a wired+wireless router connected to my cable modem in my flat. Would be glad for any pointers as to why. Richmond. Presumably you checked that there are enough wireless addresses active to support all your devices. RObert Well, I may be daft, but not that daft. We turned every single wireless device we had OFF except for my son's laptop: no joy. He was, however, running Mac OS 10.10.0 which had major problems with wireless. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Wireless internet in my flat.
Hi Richmond, There are/were issues with OSX 10.10 and WiFi. I never had WiFi problems with OSX 10.10 but when you search the internet there are a lot of threads about it: http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/mac-software/mac-os-x-yosemite-wifi-airdrop-fix-update-new-features-bugs-uk-video-10-10-2-3493748/ https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6601075?start=0 greetings, William 2015-02-25 18:02 GMT+01:00 Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com: On 25/02/15 18:31, kee nethery wrote: Compare all the variants of 802.11 that your router supports and that your MacBook Air supports. Could be there is no common 802.11 between them if your router is really old tech. Kee So, what you are saying is that my son's MacBook air is a fussy thing, while all thise generic devices are just sl*ts :) And, what is the lesson? Pay more for a MacBook so you then have to pay more for other things! Richmond. On Feb 25, 2015, at 8:25 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: I have a wired+wireless router connected to my cable modem in my flat. My Dell Optiplex 745 running Linux is connected via a LAN cable to the router. My G3 iMac running Mac OS 9.2.2 is connected via LAN cable. My G5 iMac running Mac OS 10.4 and 10.5 connects wirelessly. My wife's laptop (generic rubbish) running Linux connects wirelessly. My iPad 1 connects wirelessly. My wife's Android NextBook connects wirelessly. My wife's Dell Optiplex 760 with wireless dongle connects wirelessly. My older son's iPad 4 connects wirelessly. Both of my sons' iPhones connects wirelessly. My older son's Lenovo laptop running Windows 7 connects wirelessly. BUT . . . My younger son's MacBook Air running Mac OS 10.10 is UNABLE to connect wirelessly . . . Would be glad for any pointers as to why. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Wireless internet in my flat.
On 25/02/15 18:31, kee nethery wrote: Compare all the variants of 802.11 that your router supports and that your MacBook Air supports. Could be there is no common 802.11 between them if your router is really old tech. Kee So, what you are saying is that my son's MacBook air is a fussy thing, while all thise generic devices are just sl*ts :) And, what is the lesson? Pay more for a MacBook so you then have to pay more for other things! Richmond. On Feb 25, 2015, at 8:25 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: I have a wired+wireless router connected to my cable modem in my flat. My Dell Optiplex 745 running Linux is connected via a LAN cable to the router. My G3 iMac running Mac OS 9.2.2 is connected via LAN cable. My G5 iMac running Mac OS 10.4 and 10.5 connects wirelessly. My wife's laptop (generic rubbish) running Linux connects wirelessly. My iPad 1 connects wirelessly. My wife's Android NextBook connects wirelessly. My wife's Dell Optiplex 760 with wireless dongle connects wirelessly. My older son's iPad 4 connects wirelessly. Both of my sons' iPhones connects wirelessly. My older son's Lenovo laptop running Windows 7 connects wirelessly. BUT . . . My younger son's MacBook Air running Mac OS 10.10 is UNABLE to connect wirelessly . . . Would be glad for any pointers as to why. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Wireless internet in my flat.
On Feb 25, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/02/15 18:31, kee nethery wrote: Compare all the variants of 802.11 that your router supports and that your MacBook Air supports. Could be there is no common 802.11 between them if your router is really old tech. Kee So, what you are saying is that my son's MacBook air is a fussy thing, while all thise generic devices are just sl*ts :) And, what is the lesson? Pay more for a MacBook so you then have to pay more for other things! Richmond. No. What I am saying is that WiFi standards continually march forward. Some security protocols have been discontinued and abandoned because they are totally insecure. MacBook Air might not support old insecure security protocols. The 802.11 spec has evolved over the years, faster better, etc. Some of the 802.11 specs are so old that newer devices might not support them. Most WiFi routers work fine with a MacBook Air but if yours is really old or totally insecure, it might be time to upgrade. The number of WiFi connections is also a possibility. Kee ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[OT] Wireless internet in my flat.
I have a wired+wireless router connected to my cable modem in my flat. My Dell Optiplex 745 running Linux is connected via a LAN cable to the router. My G3 iMac running Mac OS 9.2.2 is connected via LAN cable. My G5 iMac running Mac OS 10.4 and 10.5 connects wirelessly. My wife's laptop (generic rubbish) running Linux connects wirelessly. My iPad 1 connects wirelessly. My wife's Android NextBook connects wirelessly. My wife's Dell Optiplex 760 with wireless dongle connects wirelessly. My older son's iPad 4 connects wirelessly. Both of my sons' iPhones connects wirelessly. My older son's Lenovo laptop running Windows 7 connects wirelessly. BUT . . . My younger son's MacBook Air running Mac OS 10.10 is UNABLE to connect wirelessly . . . Would be glad for any pointers as to why. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Wireless internet in my flat.
Compare all the variants of 802.11 that your router supports and that your MacBook Air supports. Could be there is no common 802.11 between them if your router is really old tech. Kee On Feb 25, 2015, at 8:25 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: I have a wired+wireless router connected to my cable modem in my flat. My Dell Optiplex 745 running Linux is connected via a LAN cable to the router. My G3 iMac running Mac OS 9.2.2 is connected via LAN cable. My G5 iMac running Mac OS 10.4 and 10.5 connects wirelessly. My wife's laptop (generic rubbish) running Linux connects wirelessly. My iPad 1 connects wirelessly. My wife's Android NextBook connects wirelessly. My wife's Dell Optiplex 760 with wireless dongle connects wirelessly. My older son's iPad 4 connects wirelessly. Both of my sons' iPhones connects wirelessly. My older son's Lenovo laptop running Windows 7 connects wirelessly. BUT . . . My younger son's MacBook Air running Mac OS 10.10 is UNABLE to connect wirelessly . . . Would be glad for any pointers as to why. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Wireless internet in my flat.
On 25.02.2015 at 18:25 Uhr +0200 Richmond apparently wrote: I have a wired+wireless router connected to my cable modem in my flat. Would be glad for any pointers as to why. Richmond. Presumably you checked that there are enough wireless addresses active to support all your devices. RObert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Wireless internet in my flat.
On 25/02/15 20:08, kee nethery wrote: On Feb 25, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/02/15 18:31, kee nethery wrote: Compare all the variants of 802.11 that your router supports and that your MacBook Air supports. Could be there is no common 802.11 between them if your router is really old tech. Kee So, what you are saying is that my son's MacBook air is a fussy thing, while all thise generic devices are just sl*ts :) And, what is the lesson? Pay more for a MacBook so you then have to pay more for other things! Richmond. No. What I am saying is that WiFi standards continually march forward. Some security protocols have been discontinued and abandoned because they are totally insecure. MacBook Air might not support old insecure security protocols. The 802.11 spec has evolved over the years, faster better, etc. Some of the 802.11 specs are so old that newer devices might not support them. Most WiFi routers work fine with a MacBook Air but if yours is really old or totally insecure, it might be time to upgrade. The number of WiFi connections is also a possibility. Kee Well, I bought my router 2 years ago: not cutting edge, but not ancient either. As my son who has the MacBook is now back in the States at University I cannot really try out anything (short of popping round the corner and buying a MacBook, ho, ho) until he is back here in July. However, he was running Mac OS 10.10.0 which had buckets of wifi probs. So let's hope that was the problem. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Wireless internet in my flat.
You could do a roundabout. Install virtualbox and a linux virtual machine, and see if the linux machine can use connect to the wifi. Sneaker net and a stick to do it. Assuming you can get it to recognize the apple wifi device, and connect successfully, you'll know that the hardware itself isn't flaky. Plus, though I've never done it, you can probably get the air to use the virtual machine as its gateway. (because everyone wants to be forced to run 2 OS's just to get internet) Or If you can find a mac compatible wifi stick (they have short profile wifi sticks that you can leave in without fear of breaking them off) perhaps that would work. Not always easy to get one working on a mac. On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/02/15 21:13, Phil Davis wrote: Hi Richmond, One possibility I see no one has yet mentioned: When my network starts misbehaving, I often start the troubleshooting process by unplugging the router, waiting a few seconds, then plugging it back in. The effect is usually quite restorative! Just a shot-in-the-dark thought. Phil I wouldn't be asking this question now, when the problem first occurred inthe first week of January if I thought I hadn't covered all the obvious possibilities. I am inclined to belive the Mac OS 10.10.0 wireless bug story. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Wireless internet in my flat.
Hi Richmond, One possibility I see no one has yet mentioned: When my network starts misbehaving, I often start the troubleshooting process by unplugging the router, waiting a few seconds, then plugging it back in. The effect is usually quite restorative! Just a shot-in-the-dark thought. Phil On 2/25/15 8:25 AM, Richmond wrote: I have a wired+wireless router connected to my cable modem in my flat. My Dell Optiplex 745 running Linux is connected via a LAN cable to the router. My G3 iMac running Mac OS 9.2.2 is connected via LAN cable. My G5 iMac running Mac OS 10.4 and 10.5 connects wirelessly. My wife's laptop (generic rubbish) running Linux connects wirelessly. My iPad 1 connects wirelessly. My wife's Android NextBook connects wirelessly. My wife's Dell Optiplex 760 with wireless dongle connects wirelessly. My older son's iPad 4 connects wirelessly. Both of my sons' iPhones connects wirelessly. My older son's Lenovo laptop running Windows 7 connects wirelessly. BUT . . . My younger son's MacBook Air running Mac OS 10.10 is UNABLE to connect wirelessly . . . Would be glad for any pointers as to why. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Phil Davis ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Wireless internet in my flat.
On 25/02/15 21:13, Phil Davis wrote: Hi Richmond, One possibility I see no one has yet mentioned: When my network starts misbehaving, I often start the troubleshooting process by unplugging the router, waiting a few seconds, then plugging it back in. The effect is usually quite restorative! Just a shot-in-the-dark thought. Phil I wouldn't be asking this question now, when the problem first occurred inthe first week of January if I thought I hadn't covered all the obvious possibilities. I am inclined to belive the Mac OS 10.10.0 wireless bug story. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Wireless internet in my flat.
Its probably not the answer, but if you seem to get a connect, but can't get anywhere, it may be horking the dhcp request. If you do get a connect, check your ip and see if its valid. If it is, see if you can ping by IP, first of the router, then of an outside server 199.190.151.2 should work, its a dns server in wyoming. If one works, but the other does not, confirm the default gateway is set correctly. If your ip isn't valid, set it by hand and see if that will work. ( on windows machines, when dhcp/bootp fail, they tend to default to 169.xx.xx.xx ip numbers, not sure about macs) If the connect just fails then.. You don't have mac address filtering on right? You might turn off all security momentarily and see if it will do a plain vanilla connect. On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/02/15 20:08, kee nethery wrote: On Feb 25, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/02/15 18:31, kee nethery wrote: Compare all the variants of 802.11 that your router supports and that your MacBook Air supports. Could be there is no common 802.11 between them if your router is really old tech. Kee So, what you are saying is that my son's MacBook air is a fussy thing, while all thise generic devices are just sl*ts :) And, what is the lesson? Pay more for a MacBook so you then have to pay more for other things! Richmond. No. What I am saying is that WiFi standards continually march forward. Some security protocols have been discontinued and abandoned because they are totally insecure. MacBook Air might not support old insecure security protocols. The 802.11 spec has evolved over the years, faster better, etc. Some of the 802.11 specs are so old that newer devices might not support them. Most WiFi routers work fine with a MacBook Air but if yours is really old or totally insecure, it might be time to upgrade. The number of WiFi connections is also a possibility. Kee Well, I bought my router 2 years ago: not cutting edge, but not ancient either. As my son who has the MacBook is now back in the States at University I cannot really try out anything (short of popping round the corner and buying a MacBook, ho, ho) until he is back here in July. However, he was running Mac OS 10.10.0 which had buckets of wifi probs. So let's hope that was the problem. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Wireless internet in my flat.
Richmond- Wednesday, February 25, 2015, 10:07:32 AM, you wrote: Well, I may be daft, but not that daft. We turned every single wireless device we had OFF except for my son's laptop: no joy. He was, however, running Mac OS 10.10.0 which had major problems with wireless. Nonetheless, whenever I'm faced with a situation like that, I'm always the first suspect... I take it that (more daft suggestions follow) the mac air has wireless is turned on the mac air can see wireless networks, just not connect the air can connect via a wired connection the air's wireless connection is set to use dhcp the router is broadcasting ssid if you open the network control panel, do you see a wireless signal and there is just no ip address? or is there no wireless carrier? but, as you have noticed, 10.10.0 is outdated (*never* load the first release of anything), and you might be well served by using a wired connection to update the operating system and then trying the wireless connection again. -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any related metadata, as well as printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, or otherwise using it. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Wireless internet in my flat.
Richmond wrote: my son who has the MacBook is now back in the States at University Hi Richmond, Does he have problems connecting to WiFi at the University? Or anywhere else other than your home? if not, perhaps there’s a clue. Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
