o be clear, I was under the implression that 9.6.10 and
>>> 10.0.6 WAS the fix for this.
>>>
>>> Bob S
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-
>>> From: use-livecode On Behalf Of
>>> Heather Laine via use-livecode
>>
t;
>> Heather, just to be clear, I was under the implression that 9.6.10 and
>> 10.0.6 WAS the fix for this.
>>
>> Bob S
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: use-livecode On Behalf Of
>> Heather Laine via use-livecode
>> Se
13, 2023 1:37 AM
> To: How to use LiveCode
> Cc: Heather Laine
> Subject: Re: All Versions of LC crashing in Sonoma
>
> I don't think you can hope for that. It's not a bug, its a change in the way
> they are implementing menus.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Heather
&
: All Versions of LC crashing in Sonoma
I don't think you can hope for that. It's not a bug, its a change in the way
they are implementing menus.
Best Regards,
Heather
Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager
LiveCode Ltd
www.livecode.com
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I don't think you can hope for that. It's not a bug, its a change in the way
they are implementing menus.
Best Regards,
Heather
Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager
LiveCode Ltd
www.livecode.com
> On 12 Oct 2023, at 18:10, Bill Vlahos wrote:
>
> Heather,
>
> Do you think Apple will
Heather,
Do you think Apple will address this issue in an update to Sonoma?
Rebuilding all my applications will be difficult.
Thank you,
Bill Vlahos
> On Oct 3, 2023, at 6:56 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Hi Matthias,
>
> I think ANY menu will cause a crash. |f your app
I think it refers to the belly rub emoji. (Rub Icon? Anyone?? never
mind.)
Bob S
> On Oct 3, 2023, at 2:38 PM, Jim Lambert via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
>> Bob wrote:
>>
>> So for those upgrading to Sonoma, 9.6.10 and 10 dp6 are now a rubicon of
>> sorts. There?s no going back. (I just
> Bob wrote:
>
> So for those upgrading to Sonoma, 9.6.10 and 10 dp6 are now a rubicon of
> sorts. There?s no going back. (I just needed to use the word Rubicon in a
> sentence today.)
Rubicon.
Does that mean the rubes have been conned?
Jim Lambert
bob bobbled,
So for those upgrading to Sonoma, 9.6.10 and 10 dp6 are now a rubicon of
sorts. There’s no going back. (I just needed to use the word Rubicon in a
sentence today.)
Shelly cahn’t speak with wi’out a New Ahngland oxcent, but Rubicon!
Ok, I’ll call back under my rock
Hello Heather,
i meant that simple default menu that is automatically created when Livecode
creates a macOS standalone.
But tested now in Sonoma VM and my older apps without just that simple default
menu run w/o problems.
> Am 03.10.2023 um 15:56 schrieb Heather Laine via use-livecode
> :
>
Rolf,
now that Heather clarified that this problem has to do with menus, only the
developer of Clarify could help with a working version of Clarify for Sonoma.
Btw. Clarify (and Screensteps 2) are two of the best tools i've ever used. I
am still using Clarify regularly.
There is no real
So for those upgrading to Sonoma, 9.6.10 and 10 dp6 are now a rubicon of sorts.
There’s no going back. (I just needed to use the word Rubicon in a sentence
today.)
Bob S
> On Oct 3, 2023, at 6:56 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Hi Matthias,
>
> I think ANY menu will cause
-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of
Rolf Kocherhans via use-livecode
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2023 4:53 AM
To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Cc: Rolf Kocherhans
Subject: Re: All Versions of LC crashing in Sonoma
@Matthias and the Mothership,
My Apple Developer account expired several
Hi Matthias,
I think ANY menu will cause a crash. |f your app has no menus it will not be
affected by the issue. Otherwise, it will crash, as does LiveCode itself prior
to the fix.
Best Regards,
Heather
Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager
LiveCode Ltd
www.livecode.com
> On 3 Oct
Hi Heather,
thanks for clarifying the reason for the crashes.
At least this grants that standalones created with older LC versions will run
as long as they do not contain a customized menu, right?
Regards,
Matthias
> Am 03.10.2023 um 12:24 schrieb Heather Laine via use-livecode
> :
>
> Hi
Hi Rolf,
No, the problem is not related to signing. The problem centers on how Sonoma
handles menus, and any app that contains a menu will crash on Sonoma unless
built with LiveCode 9.6.10 or 10 dp-6.
Best Regards,
Heather
Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager
LiveCode Ltd
www.livecode.com
@Matthias and the Mothership,
My Apple Developer account expired several years ago, and I'm facing a critical
issue with one of my LiveCode Apps, Clarify, developed by Trevor DeVore. This
app is extremely important to me.
Unfortunately, Clarify is no longer actively developed and has started
I mean unsigned anything. I use some utility apps unrelated to Livecode which I
had to allow when I ran them the first time if memory serves.
Bob S
> On Sep 29, 2023, at 4:34 PM, Roger Guay via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> If you mean unsigned standalones, I just checked one of mine developed
Maybe my observation is not the reason for the crash. Would really not make
sense, when an unsigned app would crash instead of reporting an alert.
But code signing the complete Livecode app bundle would proof it.
Did someone btw had a look at the system log file after the crash?
Von meinem
If you mean unsigned standalones, I just checked one of mine developed probably
in 9.6 or 9.7 and it worked.
Roger
> On Sep 29, 2023, at 4:22 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Hmmm… I wonder if we can expect ALL unsigned apps to crash under Sonoma?
>
> Bob S
>
>
> On Sep 29,
Hmmm… I wonder if we can expect ALL unsigned apps to crash under Sonoma?
Bob S
On Sep 29, 2023, at 3:44 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode
wrote:
While checking the different binaries of the app bundles of 9.6.9, 9.6.10,
10dp4 and 10.dp6 i noticed
that only 9.6.10 and 10DP6 app bundles
While checking the different binaries of the app bundles of 9.6.9, 9.6.10,
10dp4 and 10.dp6 i noticed
that only 9.6.10 and 10DP6 app bundles have all their binaries completely code
signed.
I just checked the content of the macOS folder of the app bundles, but there
for example the livecode
Finally, I can confirm that 10.0.0-dp-6 works in Sonoma
Roger
> On Sep 29, 2023, at 1:26 PM, Roger Guay via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Nope, removing the plugins is not the answer to making LiveCode work in
> Sonoma. To be clear, I have found that LC 9.6.10 is the only version that
> works
Nope, removing the plugins is not the answer to making LiveCode work in Sonoma.
To be clear, I have found that LC 9.6.10 is the only version that works in
Sonoma. I’m not sure if there is a subsequent version of 10.0.0 (DP 4) that
might work?
Oh and Firewall is inactive
Roger
> On Sep 29,
Thanks, Bob, I’ll give that a try later today. At least I am up and running
with LC 9.6.10.
Roger
> On Sep 29, 2023, at 8:30 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> As always, remove all your plugins and try again. Also, just spitballing but
> do you have your firewall enabled? LC
As always, remove all your plugins and try again. Also, just spitballing but do
you have your firewall enabled? LC checks for licensing on launch (correct me
if I am wrong).
Bob S
> On Sep 28, 2023, at 7:22 PM, Roger Guay via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Hope to find help here. LC Versions
LC 10 dp6 and the current 9.6.10 all work for me on Sonoma. 14.0
Builds from both work, although for me the build process for 10dp6 doesn’t end
(the standalone is built though). Also the dictionary in 10dp6 doesn’t work on
my mac.
James
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I have successfully run a build of my 'Devawriter Pro' built with LC 9.6.3
Open Source on an early beta of MacOS 14.
My DWPro builds contain NONE of the inclusions.
Your mileage may vary.
Best, Richmond.
On Fri, 29 Sept 2023, 15:13 Geoff Canyon via use-livecode, <
LiveCode 9.6.9 Build 15604 works in Sonoma, the same goes for LiveCode 10 DP6.
Try to download 9.6.9 again, you may have an older build of 9.6.9.
Tore
> 29. sep. 2023 kl. 14:12 skrev Geoff Canyon via use-livecode
> :
>
> Confirming that 9.6.9 dies immediately on launch for me.
>
> I have a
Confirming that 9.6.9 dies immediately on launch for me.
I have a standalone I built with one of the 9.6.x builds, and that doesn't
die (at least not immediately).
gc
On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 7:23 AM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> I've not tested
I've not tested personally, but I have been told that STANDALONEs build
on 9.6.9 work on Sonoma.
Can any one running Sonoma test confirm this? (Perhaps again?)
On 9/28/2023 10:22 PM, Roger Guay via use-livecode wrote:
Hope to find help here. LC Versions 9.6.3, 9.6.9, and 10.0.0 all give me
Not as far as I can tell: currently upgrading to the 14.1 beta release,
and if that fails I have to spend "a dirty weekend" 'degrading' to MacOS
13 Ventura and then, on the basis of my Time Machine backup, 'putting
all the pieces together again'.
Best [or, in the light of Apple's
Ok, I guess I’ve been out to Lunch. A review of the list revealed that V9.6.10
works. Downloaded it and indeed it does work. Is that the whole story? Will the
older Community versions not work in Sonoma forevermore?
Roger
> On Sep 28, 2023, at 7:22 PM, Roger Guay via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
Hope to find help here. LC Versions 9.6.3, 9.6.9, and 10.0.0 all give me the
“LiveCode quit unexpectedly" on launch after upgrading to Sonoma v14.0 on my
Mac, And no, Reopen does not work either. Please help.
Thanks,
Roger
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