Re: Crashing Ubuntu 11.10 with LC 4.5

2011-12-28 Thread Richard Gaskin
David C. wrote: On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassador at fourthworld.com wrote: In terms of design, it's almost as big a departure from earlier versions as OS X is from Mac OS 9. And as with my Mac experience, the transition was a bit jarring at first, and I initially

[OT] Re: Crashing Ubuntu 11.10 with LC 4.5

2011-12-27 Thread Richmond
On 12/27/2011 01:45 PM, Bernard Devlin wrote: I was so appalled by the latest Ubuntu, I switched to Mint. Ubuntu had become as slow as using Windows Vista. No wonder Mint has taken off. Whilst the main charts in the link below are based on DistroWatch (arguably a sign of what cutting-edge

Re: Crashing Ubuntu 11.10 with LC 4.5

2011-12-27 Thread Bernard Devlin
I was so appalled by the latest Ubuntu, I switched to Mint. Ubuntu had become as slow as using Windows Vista. No wonder Mint has taken off. Whilst the main charts in the link below are based on DistroWatch (arguably a sign of what cutting-edge linux users are up to), the chart further down the

Re: Crashing Ubuntu 11.10 with LC 4.5

2011-12-27 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bernard Devlin wrote: I was so appalled by the latest Ubuntu, I switched to Mint. Ubuntu had become as slow as using Windows Vista. Is that with 11.10 or 11.04? When I first tried 11.04 it was slow, and I wound up staying with 10.10 until 11.10 came out. But since I upgraded to 11.10 last

Re: Crashing Ubuntu 11.10 with LC 4.5

2011-12-27 Thread Richmond
On 12/27/2011 10:35 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Bernard Devlin wrote: I was so appalled by the latest Ubuntu, I switched to Mint. Ubuntu had become as slow as using Windows Vista. Is that with 11.10 or 11.04? When I first tried 11.04 it was slow, and I wound up staying with 10.10 until

Re: [OT] Re: Crashing Ubuntu 11.10 with LC 4.5

2011-12-27 Thread Roger Eller
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 7:26 AM, Richmond wrote: Well, I'm just about to hop on the plane for my annual visit to Britain (which will include dephlogisticating my parents' laptop, which was running Ubuntu 10.10, which has gone very sour since my Father couldn't resist clicking on

Re: Crashing Ubuntu 11.10 with LC 4.5

2011-12-27 Thread David C.
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: In terms of design, it's almost as big a departure from earlier versions as OS X is from Mac OS 9.  And as with my Mac experience, the transition was a bit jarring at first, and I initially complained about not

Crashing Ubuntu 11.10 with LC 4.5

2011-12-26 Thread Richmond
I suppose I had better start with a confession: Having been in dependency hell for about 2 months I have installed UBUNTU 11.10 on my main machine and am running Unity 2D on it. If one uses Avant Window Navigator one can very nearly avoid all the bumf that comes along with Unity. Still fairly

Re: Crashing Ubuntu 11.10 with LC 4.5

2011-12-26 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond- Monday, December 26, 2011, 9:49:39 AM, you wrote: Still fairly cheesed-off with Unity, GNOME 3 and the fact that there has been no consideration for those who like GNOME 2 (after all, why not just keep it in the repositiories as an option?). I spent about two weeks with Gnome 3 on

Re: Crashing Ubuntu 11.10 with LC 4.5

2011-12-26 Thread Richmond
On 12/26/2011 09:35 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Monday, December 26, 2011, 9:49:39 AM, you wrote: Still fairly cheesed-off with Unity, GNOME 3 and the fact that there has been no consideration for those who like GNOME 2 (after all, why not just keep it in the repositiories as an

Re: Crashing Ubuntu 11.10 with LC 4.5

2011-12-26 Thread Andre Garzia
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: You *do* have your root and home partitions separate, right? I don't but I have OCD level rsync between the machines... I really should place home in another partition, the only time I do this is with freebsd. --

Re: Crashing Ubuntu 11.10 with LC 4.5

2011-12-26 Thread Peter Alcibiades
Stay with Ubuntu for now, but install fluxbox and see if it still happens. At least you'll know if its Ubuntu or Gnome3. Once you have got used to Fluxbox, its astonishing how little use you have for a window manager, desktop, all that bloat. I preferr flux to openbox mainly because the virtual